#i dont even mean this az a call out post

[potatoqueenpal]

Words cannot explain the fucking exhausted sigh after seeing a Vega x Caelum and Quinn x Darlin' shipper on my feed and having to block both of them.

Is this ship policing? Probably. Do i have the energy to care anymore?

No.

So for my lack of words have a meme of how I feel about this situation:

[elainsgirl]

I read acotar in December so I'm very new to this. I picked up on elriel really early on and honestly they were one of my favorite things. I was so confused about gwynriel and bryceriel and all kinds of ships claiming to be canon out of the blue since I came to the fandom. It's bonkers.

But I wonder one thing. I have understood who is called the cult leader but I don't know why she is called that. It seems a little mean but maybe there's something I have missed. Why is she called the cult leader? I saw her insta and I think from her theories it seems she barely read the books so I'm not sure why she has gotten so much attention. Her interpretations are so wild and disconnected from the actual books I dont understand why she is taken seriously by anyone.

I feel like I'm missing the fandom lore because nothing makes sense. Except when I reached the elriel, nessian and feysand stans and I feel like i found common sense.

hey anon,

personally, I’ve only had two interactions w the cult leader. Once when I was new to the fandom & innocently commented under their post - disagreeing & another time - one of my friends tagged me under a post, something about Azriels book being next and I commented w how by that same logic they used that Feysands bonus = Elains book next and I got blocked. In fact, Im blocked by lots of the main antis - I barely interacted w any of then but thats how you know Im speaking facts and saying the truth. Anyways,

Its just a funny, mocking name bcs everyone takes what that person says as “law” & dont bother to form their own opinion or challenge the narrative/theories they create - like a cult. They also have a wannabe/copycat like every cult leader does. Its ok tho bcs they mock us w potatoes and “ewriel”.

Basically, you need to know some backstory. Pre-acosf, elriel was very much despised and hated. A lot of the fandom had come to the conclusion they were going to be endgame but loathed the idea of it - hoping that Az would get a new Li, some even shipping Emerie and Az. Here’s comes cult leader who gets ahold of acosf before its release and begins sprouting about Gwynriel and how Gwyn is Azriel’s mate, and it snowballed from there. They were the beacon of hope and light to the people who hated elriel and wanted someone else for Azriel, which is why many people began jumping onto the bandwagon of Gwynriel and parroting whatever theories/arguements that were created at that time - without actually thinking about what they were saying and how its baseless in canon. Gwynriel grew popularity due to how hated Elain was - and the cult leader became the main gwynriel ig, the one people went to, to reaffirm their belief in Gwynriel - therefore gaining popularity within the fandom. The cultleader also doesn’t like Elain outside of elucien which speaks for itself. Oh yh, every single theory and point they’ve made is easily disproven by canon - like it’s embarrassing ngl how easily one can end each point made - But elriels are quiter and more in the minority so gwynriels argeuments/points take over and are more popular (again elriel is rlly hated).

Thats the lore behind why elriels refer them as the cultleader. You’re not missing out on much anon, if there’s any other lore you want to ask about feel free to 🫶

[kayden-valcourt]

💥 INTRODUCTION 💥

New intro cuz the old one is Hella outdated.

Notice: I will have some flashy blinkies on this post ⚠

Hello, I am Kayden! I'm a 17 year old digital artist, gamer, programmer, and an aspiring forklifter!

I love forklifts so much and am going to try to get certified as soon as possible!

HTML coding is my life, if u need some help hmu some time 💥

I am in lots of fandoms and like lots of shows and games! I also LOVE music!

Some shows and movies I like are

Breaking Bad

Better Call Saul

Beavis and Butt-Head

The Crow movies

The Matrix movies

Daria

Smiling Friends

Adventure Time

I also like old Disney movies (Aristocats, Bambi, Lady and the Tramp, etc)

I also really love video games, I actually LOVE video games more than myself!!

Some games I like are

Team Fortress 2

Fallout 4

Fallout New Vegas

DOOM + DOOM 2

DOOM 64

DOOM ETERNAL

DOOM 3

DOOM 2016

Elder Scrolls Skyrim

Postal 4

Left 4 Dead 2

Garry's Mod

TF2 and DOOM are my current fave games and I can go on about them forever!

My main classes in TF2

Scout, Sniper, and Medic. They're the three classes I dont suck at and I love the most, I also love their lore and personality! I loved the tf2 comics! I also am somewhat decent at Demoman

Lastly is music!

I LOVE MUSIC!! Industrial is my favorite

(yes I am a Rivethead/Industrialist/Industrial Goth)

My favorite bands are

Nine Inch Nails

KMFDM

Pigface

OhGr

Skinny Puppy

Sister Machinegun

Rammstein

Ministry

Gravity Kills

Chemlab

Slick Idiot

MDFMK

Menticide

More Machine Than Man

The Prodigy

16 Volt

Night Club (band)

Dope

Orgy

Machines of Loving Grace

Static-X and Wayne Static

Nonpoint

Bile

And more!!

I have an industrial playlist on Spotify check it out please!!

I TRY TO ADD NEW MUSIC AS I DISCOVER SONGS! Active Playlist!

I also take suggestions! (if its the right genre and it sounds good!

I ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC DISCORD SERVER WITH MY FRIENDS PLEASE JOIN!! 💥

We can talk about music, art, drawings, games, bands, roleplay, and interests here with tons of people! Dont be shy to join we have emojis and take suggestions :) I also do streams or movie night sometimes!

Make sure to read the rules and be respectful :)

I love art! My ocs mean a lot to me I plan to make comics in the future! Not so many Fandom ocs more just my own ocs for my own stories.

Mostly digital artist but I doodle on my notes at school, use sketch books, and do lettering on paper! I also journal some!

Redrawing my old drawings (especially if the character has a new and better design) is so much fun to me! I also love designing and redesigning characters.

My favorite kind of characters to design/draw are Industrial Goths, Goths, Metalheads, characters with neon/bright colors, characters with sunglasses, and characters with super curly hair (its fun to draw!)

Here's some of my art as of January 2025 :)

I mostly use this acc to post art and drawings of mine so uhhh check them out 👊

Art trades are open to friends and random people, hmu if interested

No art requests sorry 😔

Edit 2-21-25

I will take requests, however I may ignore, postpone, or deny your request! I will draw stuff from *certain fandoms* like if its a Fandom I am in or your ocs/fandom ocs! I might not make full ass pictures for you but at least a doodle! Feel free to reblog or add the art to your ToyHouse if its an OC (my TH is Vodka_Muffin)

Request and comm rules, basically no extremely violent or sexual stuff, no vore or shit like that even if its a "comfort" hell nah gtfo I'm not comfortable with that 😁obviously I won't draw any Zoophile, Nazi, MAP, Nazifur, hateful, disgusting, or pedo flags or anything of that nature, which if you fall under those categories go ahead n block me ion wanna see your ass on here, I might make fun of you. No kink or fetish requests either, hell nah gtfo. I rarely draw humans but I may draw a certain oc/character if I like their design enough or if they're from a fandom I'm in. Basically that's it, dw about skimpy revealing outfits or swearing or anything I'm chill just no straight up porn/sexual material. If you have any questions abt requests feel free to DM or ask in your request! Thanks 🖤

Commissions and stuff coming soon

Dont be afraid to reach out I need more friends

Thanks for reading this have a nice night.

[cronaz-diary]

NOT EBERYTHING IZ FUCKING "DRAMA"

ppl who treat rape, grooming, murder, abuse, assault, and pedophilia az "drama" are fucking shit. YOU ARE WHY REAL VICTIMZ ARENT BELIEVED. YOU ARE WHY THATZ ALL TREATED LIKE A JOKE NO THOSE ARENT SOME DUMB DRAMA ITZ A FUCKING CRIME LIKE ACTUALLY FUCK OFF??

"oh l-look thiz famouz p-person just groomed a 14 yr old haha!!" WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THIZ? SORRY BUT U POSTING UR TOTALLY FUNNY JOKE ABT A FUCKING GROOMING VICTIM ISNT HELPING JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE ATP UR A WEIRDO AND ACTUALLY DISHUSTING

and ik ppl will defend thiz bc i called them out for finding thiz kinda shit funny, im a victim of a lot of thiz so dont even try to say why that acceptable. therez no reason or excuse for thiz shit itz not the "drama of the week" cause someone murdered a person or some other fucked up crime, they arent a "problematic cancelled creator" they are a criminal, who needz jail not get mean messagez

[theegemini92]

I don’t know how people cannot do the maths… even in real life our cultures and way of life SHAPE our DNA. Just because I marry an Italian it doesn’t mean I am one. when I eat pasta and bread I put on so much weight but when I eat my local food I loose weight. DNA and environment.

Under a similar post calling feyre out for her cultural appropriation this was an interesting answer I got ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

It’s as if all her bad actions are glossed over due to her “saving prythian” when the first one Tamlin saved prythian not her. She just saved Tamlin. She just came in trying to change things because her martyr comeplex cannot handle rejection. Everyone should bend over for her because she “saved” them.

Learning the culture is different from taking time off. While she took time off she could’ve been learn reading, making friends but no She had time for a baby in that short span and look what consequences she got from lack of knowledge and appropriation? Nesta in her short time made female friends outside the IC, she didn’t need time for that. When amren was teaching Nesta about politics, feyre left the scene she clearly showed uninterest. She wanted a crown no one respects and doesn’t want to Know the rules? To her Tamlin kept info now the ic, her Rhys is doing the same thing. If you are made president today because you want it people will suffer because you dont know politics. You have to learn. Tamlin and all the hl are close to their people. Tamlin mingles with his soldiers and house servants everyday. He doesn’t coop himself up. Rhys had An extensive education. No one is diminishing her saving the world. But her proximity to Rhys means she doesn’t have to learn SHE DOESNT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT which on her part isn’t right. She thinks she’s a MALE and they have the power so she does now.

I know this is not book related but: Rhysand to me is a sex maniac and has never been with an Illyrian female before, he and the bat boys. Hear me out 🤭 we all know Rhys uses sex as a tool to get what he wants which is why i always say he was not SAed by amarantha. He used her to get information and started some slick shit behind the scenes. Tamlin called him out for starting the war at the hl meeting and that’s when feyre cut him off and she said Tamlin doesn’t get to spin the narrative to his favor. (So what did Rhys tell her for her to think that? Tam is no daemati?) He also did groom Tamlin with “females” . He suggested to feyre threesomes… they had sex in the middle of a war and wanted to in the Library. I am all for sex it’s normal but when there’s a pattern I can’t unsee it. But I digress.

It’s as much his fault as feyre. I think he wanted to satisfy a kink. Because he’s never been with an Illyrian female so they could flap themselves like flies in the air. Cass may be general but he’s not liked by his own people. Az tends to also stay away from them. Their choices in females don’t look like the females that bore them. They literally grew up in the night court away from Illyrian females.

Illyrian females though cruelly used I will assume won’t be SO EASILY ACCESSIBLE So fey having wings and they using it as a fetish sounds about as right. Because if Rhys had done it that Illyrian female would have been a child, they clip wings at 18 so she would’ve been less… hence he cannot fulfill that fantasy.

As a male he doesn’t understand a female as we would ourselves. I know some men who don’t even know what ovulation is. As I said Rhys had an extensive education but we all know it wasn’t on medicine let alone female anatomy of the fae female species.

Fantasy novel or not it raises questions of how many of these readers see the world. Recently foreigners have been arrested in Dubai for laughing and filiming a couple with the woman in a niqab. Her own culture and religion. Actions have consequences just because you have freedom. Feyre has freedom to cosplay but she wasn’t ready for the death sentence of her actions not just to Rhys but her unborn child

Credits to: Antoinette Cea-Lopes on TikTok

I can’t believe that this is even a conversation. Once again one half of the fandom never ceases to blow my mind with their lack of common sense & media literacy!

I don’t get how people do not understand that when Nesta adjusted her body she did not change her entire being into an Illyrian!!!

Nesta is still very much a HIGH FAE FEMALE!!! When she adjusted her body all she did was widen her hips and birthing canal so that she would not die during childbirth like Feyre almost did giving birth to a winged child!!

Feyre on the other changes her entire autonomy on a genetic/celluar level using the power she got from Tamlin…IT’s LITERALLY WHAT SHAPESHIFTING IS!!!!! It’s also the reason why Nyx is 3/4 Illyrian & a quarter high fae because FEYRE WAS FULL ILLYRIAN WHEN SHE SHIFTED!!! & Nyx’s 1/4 Illyrian counterpart comes from RHYSAND because he is 1/2 Illyrian & 1/2 high fae!!

When Feyre & Rhysand were jeeting in the sky she cosplayed as an Illyrian female by altering her entire autonomy!!

Feyre’s wings are literally MALE ILLYRIAN WINGS that she COPIED & PASTED on to herself just because she could & liked the look of them. She took one look at Azriel’s wings & said yep that’ll do.

Nesta is NOT Illyrian she is still high fae.

When Feyre shapeshifts she is no longer high fae & IS full Illyrian!

I don’t get why they can’t understand this???!!!

[morguemaw]

Important.

So. I wanted to make this post, and my brother, and girlfriend have supported me. My brother knows this entire situation, but i wanted to come out about it because it has dealt alot of mental toll on me, and im scared of this creator. No, i dont want to interact or start drama. No, dont mention me to him. No, i dont want his apology. No, i dont want any pity. I just want to tell my story because it happened before, happened to me, and just because he has a "soft gay boy nice boy" attitude does NOT mean it wont happen again. What ill go over in this post roughly/you will get the impression of is;

Why i hate comparison

Why im fast to jump at conclusions/be defensive

and Why i mention my trauma with the UTMV community, specially under posts regarding art, art style, characters or character design.

And no, im not even posting this to try and tell people im some snowflake who cant handle criticism or compression, this is targeted to the people who have ill intent with those and go as far as to label things others do as copying or ripping off.

Yes, im okay. Yes, im going to continue what i do. No, im not wanting to send anyone after him. Please, just read what i have and understand that the way i am is because of something i have kept to myself and only 2-4 other people for the past 5 years.

Introduction.

To get it started, ill be calling this creator, he/him, by his publicly known name. However, ill also possibly switch from his name, to part of his username/nickname.

This creator in question, is the content creator named Lizherubones, also known as TwistedBones, thebastardbutcher ( here on tumblr, too. ) , ButcherZone, and his oldest username, Zippy3006. He sounds familiar because he was one of the bigger creators in the UTMV, back in the dark ages of fontcest being the normal. However, i will call him William, as that is his name, and its public information. He also goes by Will, so im sorry if i call him any variation of those names/usernames.

Other things you may read about in this is an old discontinued app called DoodleClub, a OC of mine named Ezher who is the reason why im making this post, as i wanted to draw and post him again, but the timeline will be abit scattered as trauma and blocked out memories happened because of this, however another important person, despite being lightly mentioned is another victim who i will simply call Az as of right now.

Ill try to keep this as short as i can within reason, there will be time gaps, there will be references to previous things mentioned, and if it gets rough i may even stumble on how i type and mention things too soon or later on, im very sorry.

The Start.

During the time of 2015-2016, i had first found Undertale. During it, i joined a app called DoodleClub, its where i met my brother, Glitchy. During this time, i had also joined Tumblr. With the rise and popularity of Undertale, i had seen alot of artists, some other popular names you may recognize is NSFWshamecave, BlogTheGreatRouge, and a few others whom aren't important to the story other then to get the gist of it, Lizherubones was one of the artists i had encountered, and grew attached to. I adored his style. To me, it was a perfect mesh of cartoony and pleasing aesthetics and anatomy that i just.. Well i loved it. This is when i got stupid. On DoodleClub, i would post artwork of either 100% traced or partly traced artwork of his, along with my own where i weakly attempted to mimic his style. Soon tho, i got too comfortable. Sometimes i sent him asks on or off anon, i drew him fanart, and on DoodleClub i even changed my username to "Twisted Bones", because i really liked that name. However, sometime a user, who i will just call Nutty for right now since its what i remember them by, they found out. Slowly, a few others did, and Nutty ended up reporting me to William. Now during this i never got screenshots, one screenshot i remember Nutty posting was one of William saying i was a loser for tracing, or something similar but equally short.

This ended fast, as people were on my side. But it didnt end there. Same day Nutty reported me, and word got out, i decided to confront William myself. I explained that i was sorry, i wouldnt do it again, and i saw him as a idol and wanted forgiveness. I was terrified and at my grandmothers trying to hide me talking to a almost 30 year old man about traced work. The first trauma tick with him, was when he threatened legal action against me, saying and i quote, 'Your parents will have to pay alot of money'.

May i tell you a few things;

I was a CHILD at the time. 11-12 years old, not even classified as a Teen yet. I couldnt legally be sued.

He lives in Chile Brazil, i live in Michigan USA. After about a year, and also after a third situation that happened that caused me to do alot of at the time feeling smart teen research, he couldnt have even attempted a law suit because of the fact i wasnt making money off the traced work, and that the laws are different in both states and countries regarding copyrighted content. Not just that but.. He was too far, and would have to come to me. Which again, different locations = different laws, and so on.

As stated above, i made 0 money or even thought to off his traced content. In my mind at the time, i just traced to learn the style, and ill even say it that from what i remember, i didnt trace enough to have it be my main thing.

After this, he commanded me to delete all my work, and to never return to the internet. Which i did.

Return of the Deja Vu (Instagram Arch).

Skipping to 2017, my slow return to the internet. I had gotten Instagram and decided i still wanted to draw. However, like a cow being branded, his style still stayed in my mind. Though, this time it was just muscle memory.

During both this interaction and the previous, both times William had stated his art , characters, and even worse the colors used on them were copyrighted.

In the end of this, because the more important one comes next, is people kept tagging him in my work. Saying it was familiar, asking if it was his characters, ect. Which lead to him messaging me on my now forgotten account, once again threatening the law to me. This time, however, i just told him to leave me alone as i wasnt doing anything. He had also made comments and remarks on my artwork like, "This just looks like a human version i did", or "Looks like a draw i made." ect, ect. I had made a very old, possibly lost Reddit account talking about this, which was made just within the same week of him telling me these. This situation ended fast, mainly because i went inactive on this account. If the name Zure/Zhure sounds familiar, that was apart of my user at the time.

The Big Blowout (Twitter Arch).

This is where my links and pictures come in. All are screenshotted from Twitter. This is also where i can provide more proof of things. I will mostly gloss over everything, as its foggy for me. The timeline is roughly 2019. On twitter, i still was ignorant and blind to this all. Rose tinted glasses. I wanted to just be seen by someone i looked up to and just get a small sorry if he even felt any pity. On Twitter, i began posting. I began to also like his art, but never followed. Just to try and gain his attention. This ended badly, however. After i first not only made a suggestive Human Swap Sans, at the time not realizing at this point what i was doing was taking inspiration from him rather then trying to copy, but i had also made a OC named Ezher.

Ezher was the main breaking point.

This is Ezher;

As you can clearly see, yes, he looks alot like William's own OC, Rheiz. , However, i remember clearly the source of what i liked most about Rheiz was the marks in his hair and the dark to light hoodie he wore. Something extremely important, but when i made Ezher, William was a faint memory to me at the time. So when i say source pf his OC, it was a distant memory and i didnt think much when i created him. Off topic note, but turns out that while talking to someone William considers a close friend, all i did was make Ezher half red, half blue and that made Ezher original. Who knew a color tied his fate. Sound familiar? Thats because mentioned earlier, William told me previously that he had characters that were copyrighted. He also mentioned that using the same colors as his characters was wrong, too.

Ezher will be getting a update and will be coming back. When Will found out about this, is when shit hit the fan. I got many, many @'s like this;

^ Mind you in the last screenshot, i was trying. I really was. A user named SnoweyBones also made a message on their Twitter, telling people to report me. This got my acc taken down. This is only a small part of what i personally could find. I roughly remember screenshotting the DMs + others, but they are either lost to time or something else.

If you couldnt tell, the gist of it was, William had made a post about me somewhere which in return led to a mob.

This scared me off the internet for abit, and i went into hiding for awhile until my brother started to give me more confidence, and i realized that everything that happened,

was all because someone was egotistical about a artstyle and monochromatic color scheme.

^ That was my old account. Very easy to find however, so it is what it is.

Things i found, Things you should know.

To once again clarify, im not seeking pity nor revenge. Im wanting to shed light and say my story about this artist, because this isnt the first time he has done this, let alone something terrible.

William has attacked another creator, this same creator he is following on Twitter and acting like nothing happened.

There was a situation creepily similar to mine that occurred not too long before my own. Similar insults and similar situations.

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William has a history of attacking other creators. His reasoning is that his own trauma is the cause of his actions. I have trauma with him, and the furthest i ever went was when someone used my characters (in my eyes) unique name for themselves and created a sexual variant of my OC without my consent and proceeded to openly complain, insult, and suicide bait members around them because i rightfully called them out for doing something with something of mine i didnt like, didnt let them do, nor would have ever consented to.

To sum it up.

Im not doing this as revenge. Im not doing this as pity. Because again, a close friend of his helped me and made me feel better during his final attack on me and helped me still connect to a OC of mine.

Im doing this because its for me a traumatic experience and a reason why i tend to act the way i do. Im scared to post certain characters, art, or ect without the fear of him coming around or others comparing me to him.

Again, my OC Ezher was the starting point of this. I want to draw him and love him again, but im scared of William.

Even if i have a whole redesign in mind, even if he doesnt remember me or even bother with me, even if no one cares or even if the community now isnt so butthole tight about stupid things like similar color schemes or aesthetics, its still something that affects me and has affected how enjoy the fandom.

Repeating this, but im not even posting this to try and tell people im some snowflake who cant handle criticism or compression, this is targeted to the people who have ill intent with those and go as far as to label things others do as copying or ripping off.

[kimsnnn]

Part 1

Disclaimer: This post is in favor of my ship, Elriel. No hate, just an opinion. This is what makes sense to me. If this isn't your cup of tea, and it came up on your feed, no worries just skip please. 

If you look at it this way:

If the series were to officially end at ACOWAR then that would mean that there would be no need to add any more books due to the majority of the plot being resolved. If there were slight questions or plot holes that were left open, we as readers can basically create our own conclusion based of where these characters and their stories were left off at. That’s the beauty of being a reader, being able to use our imagination to extend the stories based on canon information to infer or even speculate what happened to those beloved characters of ours.

If its easy to answer these questions, fill these plot holes and resolve any issues within that story, then there would be no need for any additional books, and lets say there were questions that were pressing but not complicated to answer, a simple extra book could be added to resolve that like ACOFAS. ACOFAS could’ve concluded everything. She could’ve also showed Feyre or whoever freeing Vassa and then created a whole spin off on Vassa and her adventures including the plot of her defeating her captor Koschei while also dealing with the queens and humans basically introducing us to a whole new world and continent with new fae/fae territories (like chaol introduced in his book from ToG). Her LI would most likely be Jurian because Lucien would have ended up with Elain which we know because she resolved that in ACOFAS.

BUT

That’s not at all what happened. Things were not answered/resolved during ACOFAS.

The author which in this case is SJM knew that whatever obvious inferences/speculation we the fandom would have is not the accurate ending she had for these characters. So she decided to introduce far more books into the series as standalones but, still part of the overarching plot to truly get the full scope of what she has in store for these characters. Why make additional books based on the obvious ?  She’s a writer, she knows the importance of creating mystery or writing plot twists that we either didn’t or decided not to realize or even accept. So ACOFAS and even ACOWAR wasn’t there to answer last minute questions, to show us that our favorite ships did end up together, no it was there to be used to set up future stories like SJM said and be as close as can be as opposite of obvious.

At the End of ACOWAR we have :

Nesta

-THAT Nessian moment 🥰  (& Nessian moments in general in ACOWAR)

We can infer based on where those characters were left off that :

-They would end up together eventually.  I mean come on, Cass’s line *chef’s kiss*.

BUT what people forget is that was also her breaking point (trauma) 

-We didn’t know how her trauma would affect her, her life and loved ones, & how she’d heal Or what were even her powers. These questions were built up throughout all of ACOWAR

So what did SJM do?

-She wrote the answers to those questions in ACOSF while also resolving questions about Nessian’s status especially since Nesta first had to start healing to let herself be loved.

The evidence ? The set up to gain support to find these answers ? Its in ACOFAS

-Nesta’s drinking, isolation, rage, fear, loneliness and self hate

-Nesta’s avoidance of her sisters, the IC and Cassian

-Cassian’s persistence, confusion. Feeling helpless.

Same thing can be seen for Elain

At the end of ACOWAR

Elain

-Civilness between E and L.  She seems more at peach and want to plan gardens/rebuild

We can infer

-Elain talked to Lucien so she forgave him or is on track to forgive him. From this we can assume the possibility of Elucien being endgame.

Elain also must be healed because she smiled and wants to help rebuild. So that all equals acceptance of her powers (on occasionally seeing things and that it, that’s her power), her new life and bond

BUT what we forget is the iconic Elriel moments (Hybern camp & truth teller connection), Elain’s world/future going up in flames, the consequences/trauma of having been gifted these powers

-We don’t know the full scope of her powers, why the cauldron adores her, how she feels, why were we given blooming moments between Elriel 

So again what will SJM probably do?

-Set Elriel to be endgame. Cause civility/friendship/forgiveness/CLOSURE between Elain and Lucien. Get In depth about her powers, her trauma and how it has affected the life she thought she would have. Have her come into her role in the NC and have self growth. 

The evidence? Its in ACOFAS & ACOSF

-Elain’s anger and desperation to have a choice, to have her own agency

-Elain’s avoidance, tolerance, discomfort of Lucien ( she wilts and regresses)

-Elain’s push to contribute more and firmly declare she’s a member of the NC

-Elriel’s tension & build up ( glances, smiles, blushing, gifts, humor, awareness, longing, protectiveness, attraction, actively trying to distract themselves, etc I could go on and on)

-Confirmation of Elain’s power still existing. Her whereabouts: where is Elain when the IC are facing obstacles?

-Her visions still to happen. The fourth dead trove needs to be found: it makes sense that it would be found by Elain (& Az) ( the crown: Braiylln, the harp & mask: Nesta, the fourth trove: Elain)

*If there are 3 cauldron made and Braiylln found one (& is now dead), Nesta found 2 but couldn't get a good read of the fourth, that means it'll be up to Elain & Azriel because they are basically the only two in the IC who closely work with shadows and even mist. Maybe Nuala and Cerridwen would also join in searching which id love.

Now let’s ignore the evidence.

From that moment at the end of ACOWAR again: 1) we see Elain who seems better and 2)we have Elain and Lucien who seem to be in a civil place 

So we assume she’s healed or on track, and her relationship with Lucien is looking up. So why would SJM write a whole standalone on the obvious?

If she’s healed and okay, if she and Lucien will be a sailing ship why be so secretive and unclear on Elain’s story, on who she ends up with?

Nessian was so clear, there was no REAL doubt that they would not end up together despite the obstacles between them, two of them being her rage and trauma. But Nessian would be and are endgame period. All the other “prospects” were just for angst, development and humor. Not real threats.

She wrote Nesta’s story because the worry and question wasn’t on Nessian’s validity, she established their validity and their romance when Nesta prepared to die with Cassian, when Cassian promised to find more time with her, when Nesta called for Cassian, when Nesta Wass worried for Cassian, when Nesta would constantly pay attention to him without realizing it (his wings) when Cassian ran after her during solstice, when Cassian bought her a gift etc. The worry and questions were ALWAYS on and about Nesta’s role, powers, and trauma because they were the influencing factor that affected everyone’s future, Nesta’s life/health and Nessian’s ability to finally able to come together.

If Elucien were endgame we as a fandom would know without a doubt that they are. There would be many more moments of ooh’s and hmmm’s and less mystery and confusion on their validity. There would be far more angst and these characters would have be seen more often together (seeking each other out, but Elain never does) or at least have them have more than one scene of mutual civilness where they dont talk awkwardly, and have a real conversation not one that seems forced, especially by Feyre. Even with the obstacles between them and their distance (because of the obvious elephant in the room) we should have scenes that showcases clear interest between them but we don’t. There is only one true scene where we have that and its at the end of ACOWAR, Im not blind i could see where people might interpret it as Elucien confirmation and who knows maybe I'm wrong and it is but, I read that differently. That to me was confirmation that a friendship between them is possible. Something completely platonic but just as sweet in a different way. That scene to me wasn’t charged it was not even a slow burn or even a spark it was healing and the foreshadowing of a possible friendship.

ALSO:

*Possible ToG spoiler below*

I don’t think it’s too far fetched to assume that Vassien is a thing. And in all honestly I also don’t think its too far fetched to have Lucien (& Vassa) have their own book like Chaol (& Yrene) did. Chaol was an important/original main character from the very beginning of the series who ended up doing grave mistakes. He found himself lost in life to later finding himself gaining a new purpose outlook & perspective when he left the continent to only meet his new LI Yrene freaking Towers who SERIOUSLY changed the whole game ( I freaking love her) and was extremely valuable to winning that war. This is so similar to Lucien’s story so far and Vassa (the firebird) who I expect to resemble Yrene in value and vitalness  BUT it is important to state that Lucien is nothing like Chaol and is far more SUPERIOR. So No this is not me saying Lucien is like Chaol. This is just me seeing the resemblance in their journeys so far, which might be due to SJM possibly reusing the same template on purpose.

Part 2

[tovelarisdreams]

Hi! I saw your comments in a recent post where a gwynriel asked why people thought gwyn is a lightsinger and I felt compelled to reach out to you to say I AGREE and I am so sorry for the hostility you were shown for your completely justified (and non-combative) comments.

There are a few points that I wanted to make that I don’t think gwynriels understand.

1. A lot of people think gwyn is a lightsinger because of the possible foreshadowing techniques that Sarah implemented in ACOSF. Bringing up lightsingers so casually and then describing gwyn’s singing and breath and the reactions other had to both of those in the way she did is curious to say the least. Although it’s not confirmed, it is an interesting theory.

2. IF gwyn is a lightsinger, it does not mean she is evil! The most popular theory I’ve seen is that she doesn’t understand her powers and is possibly being unwillingly controlled by Merrill (who I think we can all agree is a little sus). Yes, there may be some people who want gwyn to be knowingly evil, much like many more gwynriels who want elain to turn evil just for the sake of getting her out of the picture. But the majority of elriels I’ve seen and interacted with are more supportive of the possible “Merrill abusing gwyn’s powers” theory since we all know that gwyn is canonically kind.

3. Gwyn possibly being a lightsinger is in NO WAY tied to her being an SA survivor. It is the same way that Rhys being able to casually mist people and Nesta being able to literally disintegrate the Queen with her powers have nothing to do with their being SA survivors. When gwynriels say that elriels are “attacking gwyn because she is in SA survivor” just because elriels suggest gwyn might have lightsinger powers blows my mind. And they say that “real life SA survivors are hurt by these theories” - why? I don’t like to talk about my own history but I myself am an SA survivor and in no way do I think that saying gwyn might have lightsinger powers (or even saying she could be evil- not that many are saying that) has ANYTHING to do with her SA history. I equate this with all of the hate nesta and Rhys consistently have gotten over the years. The way gwynriels are using gwyn’s SA history as a reason to dispel theories they do not like is akin to an anti-Nesta saying “nesta is rude and I don’t like her” and then someone saying “you are an awful human being for not liking her because she’s an SA survivor. You obviously do not support SA victims at all. How dare you not like nesta”. A character is not solely defined by their history with SA. And their SA is not inherently tied to every other aspect about them. IF gwyn is a lightsinger (and IF she uses her powers knowingly or unknowingly) that has NOTHING to do with her being an SA survivor.

I am just so tired of gwynriels trying to twist elriels’ words to make them out to be villains. No elriel I have seen on tumblr has ever said anything negative about gwyn’s SA history. If anyone were to attack her for that specifically, yeah, they should called out for that because that is messed up. But people need to stop assuming that everything said about gwyn is somehow tied to her being an SA survivor. That is a part of who she is unfortunately but that is not ALL she is and when gwynriels are constantly using that to combat theories they do not like, they are reducing her to her SA and THAT is what is the most messed up. Gwyn is so much more than her SA and she, as well as every SA survivor in real life, deserves the respect of being treated like they are a human being and more than their SA.

Sorry for this long post but I saw your comments and they were completely in-line with my beliefs as well and I wanted to show my support for you.

Heyyy! Thank u so much. That little "debate" left me a little shaken, to be honest. It became a real trigger, really fast.

Lets talk abou the point:

1) The lightsinger theory for me is one of the best ones. I've been saying this from the begging, Gwyn needs to have a important role next book. Yes, The book is Elain's. But Elain will get the sub plot with her Love interest like Nessian did. Gwyn's role, i believe, is realted to the bigger plot. Sarah described her singing for some reason, and its show to affect Nestha in ACOSF.

2) YES! I do not want Gwyn to be evil, and don't believe she will. Her being manipulated by Merril is a great plot. Cause that woman is weird lol. I understand why gwynriels get so mad about, cause this theory eliminates the romantic aspect of Gwyn's voice on Az. But a theory is a theory, and this one makes a lot of sense with what Sjm left as hints in ACOSF. And what u say is true. The make so many Evil elain theory, not only that but they portrait elain in a very evil, manipulative manners. They think that is super ok, but make on sigle theory about precious gwyn and they go crazy.

3) This is the worst part for me. They use a very serious real life thing, for a petty reason. There is no excuse for using SA as a argument to solidify book theorys. And they use for ANYTHING. Anyone say anything about gwyn, a they come boiling with rage saying u are being toxic and not respecting her trauma. Withou realizing that they are attacking REAL LIFE SA SURVIVORS. Its ridiculous. The Lightsinger theory has nothing to do with what gwyn suffered. Nothing. Most theories doens't. I've been in this fandom for a while, and not once have i seen anyone say anything rude about her in that manner.

The problem is: Their shipp doesn't have solid theories. They have some conversations along ACOSF that show no more than a friendly interaction. And then, the famous extra chapter. The problem with the extra chapter is: what happens there cannot have more power than what happens in regular chapter. That's why i say that the necklace wont be a major issue next book. Even of we decide to take what happens there as important, what do we really have ? Az talks to gwyn and helps her with her training. Then, goes to the library and give CLOTHO (not gwyn) the necklace for her to deliver, but he also say for her to give to any other pristess, if not gwyn. Also, says he does nto consider her a friend. What i take from it is: Azriel is the link between Gwyn and next book. Like i said before, she has a role next book but nothing ties her to elain. We need a link there. And that setence about their friendship, for me, its the hint left behind.

The way i see it, we dont have romantic fellings or interaction there. Only hints to bring her back next book. And talking about elriel in his pov. For elriel, we have the extra step. It says it right there, they never dared do anything other than touching hands and stealing glances. The invisible line they created, almost crossed. But stopped by rhys. Why ?

1) Tell me one author that is dumb enough to make a shipp canon on a extra chapter ? Yes, that kiss couldn't happen there. (Thank u Rhys)

2) Who doens't love a proibited romance ? Rhys order just gave us the best hint for the sub plot of elain's book. Along with some intersting drama between the charaters. (Again, Thank u Rhys)

In the end, sjm got a lot of marketing with that extra chapter too. Azriel is a fan favorite and she knew we were all waiting on that pov. Its a lot a marketing there too.

And Thank u for showinh your support! I love it ! As u can see, i have a lot a thoughts on Elriel hahaha

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[elainsgirl]

GA's are now calling us toxic boy moms😭did you see? they tagged it pro elain saying how "Elriels act like toxic boy moms who blame every action of their sons on someone else and especially a girl because Az's behavior is blamed on Gwyn and not him a 500 year old shadowsinger and spymaster who would be so shit at his job if he couldn't even know if he was lured or not. And blaming calling kissing a mistake on Rhys when he just called her in his office" and how we want to fuck him but treat him like we are their toxic mom.

And my god what

whose “we”.

. The whole reason Az said it was a mistake is cause Rhys showed up and called him. And as far as Im aware, most elriels agree that Elain is going to act cold towards Az and he needs to apologise for what he said.

. Saying Az “who found himself at the library” may have been drawn or lured into the place by Gwyn’s powers who possibly isnt aware of them ≠ blaming Gwyn. No one in the majority is saying “oh its Gwyns fault Az gave the necklace away!” Simply pointing out how the wording used hints at Az being lured there - hypothetically. I’d rather do Elain then Az tbh. I can’t speak for all elriels, but I personally view Az as an accessory to Elain. Like he’s just ken and Elain is barbie. She is the moment. Not him.

Ugh, they’re not really original. They copy everything from elriels so im not even suprised they’re trying to turn this arguement around. They sound like petty, immature little kids and after what they did by spamming BB’s 3 week old post with their emojis im convinced they’re just pathetic. Like. Really its sad how they act and behave. Passing around that second hand embarrassment freely.

if they want to call elriels boy moms, they can go ahead. We’re mature enough to understand it doesnt really apply to us so why get upset? They’re just throwing another tantrum and let them atp.

I dont even need to point out the hypocrisy do I? They went on a week long tangent on how calling a group of stans “boy moms” is rude, wrong and “how dare you compare us to abusive people!” - yet now they’re turning around doing the same thing. I bet the elucien warriors who always yap about how rude and mean elriels are, are now silent on their own people doing the same thing. This is why the majority dont take elucien very seriously.

[altamirage-blogs]

man im so stressed about so many things;;;; i'm already stressed about money because blake suddenly decided to move in a month without discussing it beforehand and told us AFTER all three of us signed the lease for a second year,AND after rent got bumped up 100$, which means julian and i will have to split everything by ourselves now i'm sad because my only remaining family in az is also moving and they didnt tell me personally or anything, i found out through a fb post. and there goes all my holiday. i cant make the trip out to illinois every year... and i know t wasnt as big a deal to them, but i wanted to see them before they moved, so i tried driving up but my goddamn car broke down and now on top of being stressed about the sudden extra finances i have to worry about however much this fix is gonna be. and i dont even know if i'll be able to go visit them in time. i have a week, but pthbtbhbchndbfb AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF i just moved to a new team at work and literally my entire first two weeks with them have been riddled with dumb things that keep making me look bad (ie, my alarm didnt go off once so i was two hours late, my clock in for that day was messed up so it showed as an unexcused absence, work's system messed up and had it look like i missed a call and sat in idle for half an hour when no call ever came up and it said i was available the whole time, etc) so i just feel like an idiot at work and im just a depressed blob at home rn because of all of this and frankly i feel like poop

[enthusiasticsobrietyabuse]

To The Parents who are still in the Program (and those who have left) - OnTheEmmis.com 2004

There is a thread on the other message board that I think the parents need to be informed about. This is about the harm that is caused to the children from parents that are still in an ICECAP program. These are true stories (not edited) just copied and pasted for you to read. What Bob AND Joy teach parents about "tough" love and their version of "unconditional" love are just that "their version". Does this seem as though families are being brought together and healing to you? This is a great example of the pain that is caused when one person in the family (the child) wants to leave ICECAP and another person (the parent) believes the lies that they have been taught (that they are or will get high, can't live without being in the program, etc.) They, ICECAP, breed the fear that you as a parent have when you see them making choices that YOU don't like. What is the true meaning of letting go? Or the true meaning of unconditional love? This is not to make any parent feel guilty for their time in an ICECAP program. I truly believe you thought you were doing the best thing. You were also a victim of the cult and it's way of thinking. That is the very reason I am posting this thread. To show the harm and hopefully save some pain for others. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Author: Bailey [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date Posted: 13:27:44 12/22/04 Wed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Getting kicked out of your house by your once all loving supporting do anything for you family As most of you know my family is ALL involved in Crossroads and sense ive left its been hell, Thursday night my dad and step mom freaked out on me and my dad started pushing me and threatening to "lay me the fuck out" My dad has never so much as spanked me before we used to get along great until x-roads we got high together went to concerts movies dinner and what not, But now its as tho i dont exist to them they call me ungrateful bitch and many other names after all that happened he told me to pack a bag and he didnt want to see me anymore, Luckily i see a therapist and he talked to my dad and calmed them down they still want me out of the house tho. I cant leave now because i belong to the state until me 18th birthday which thank god isnt far off but if they kick me out or i move out i have to spend the next month and half in juvenile again, this has happened to many of my friends who have left too they end up homeless because if there not in the group they cant be at there house, i was just wondering if anyone else's parents went crazy after they left and if it does get better? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] [> Subject: It happened to me Part 1 Author: Hollywood [Edit] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date Posted: 17:59:18 12/22/04 Wed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I lived threw this every time I left the group, but especially the last time. The last time I left I bailed the group with a guy, I knew from prior experiences that my parents would not tolerate me living in their house and not be in Pathway. So I did what I knew how to do, and hopped on a bus to California. When we got there we had no money or anything. At that point and many points throughout my time in Pathway I was willing to be a street person rather than be involved in the group. To say it didn't last long was an understatement; he was scared and refused to talk to anyone. His parents agreed to fly us back to AZ. I almost did not go because I knew that upon arriving I would have no place to go. Mind you at this point I had over a year sober. I did not bail because I wanted to get high. When the plane touched down in PHX he had people from the group waiting to take him back. They shunned me. I had been in the group for about 5 years at that point and they could care less if I had a place to go. I now know it was because my parents would not shell out even more money for me to go into IOP (that would have been the third time). I truly did not know who to call; I had been in the group since I was 14 years old. Not many people I knew had left and were around or willing to talk to a program drop out. I finally gathered enough courage to call a friend of mine that had left the group, I knew she was getting high but at that point I didn't care. The streets of Phoenix were a lot more cruel than the streets of Hollywood. Her mother answered the phone, she did not sound very happy to hear my voice, on a previous runaway trip I bailed the group with her daughter and a few other people and we stole her credit cards and over $1000 dollars cash if my memory serves correctly. So this was a lady that I had fucked over to say the least. This kind woman opened her home to me. More than what my own family was capable of at that point. She allowed me to stay at their house and helped me try and find a job. At the same time unknown to me she was in contact with my parents trying to convince them to take me home, that I was actually doing fine and wasn't what the group was telling them about me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] [> [> Subject: Re: It happened to me Part 2 Author: Hollywood [Edit] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date Posted: 18:00:08 12/22/04 Wed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ For some reason on Christmas Eve my parents called and told me I could move back in, but I had to live in the garage. They would set up a cot in there. I would not be allowed to use anything in the house, except the bathroom but my parents had to escort me to and from it. I agreed I didn't care; I just wanted to see my father. When we were driving to my parents house the kind mom who allowed me to stay at her house explained to me that this was all my mothers doing, my father wanted nothing to do with my and had informed her that I was dead to him. It was because of him I would be sleeping in the garage until I could find my own home (mind you I was 18 and had never held down a job, paid bills, etc.) I lost it, this man, my father, my hero wanted nothing to do with me. This was a turning point for me. This is when I decided in my crazy still experiencing the effects of Kool-Aid that I needed to get high in order to get in the house. Because, try and follow this it is way crazy thinking looking back, if I just got high I would have something to cop to, the group would take me back, I could make amends and therefore my father would allow me in his life again. Crazy I know. Well living in the garage lasted about 2 hours before my parents (read mother) got sick of it. My father sulked in his room and wanted nothing to do with me. Christmas Eve with all the family and Christmas day were rather awkward, to say the least. My father still did not speak to me. I believe that year they even attended the round robin. I sat at home. I soon got a job and almost immediately began getting high, smoking speed, snorting coke, and shooting heroin. This went on for about 2 years. I worked therefore my parents didn't care. They had both left the program (details of that have never been disclosed to me, I do not know why or how). And my father and my relationship finally started to re solidify. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] [> [> [> Subject: Re: It happened to me Part 2 Author: Hollywood [Edit] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date Posted: 18:01:09 12/22/04 Wed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Except by this time I was strung out on heroin. Believe it or not I did go back to the group. After my parents discovered my horrible habit and asked me to check myself in to a detox center, I made an appointment with the then OG counselor. He told me to that I was going to die, that I needed to go into some Step something or other. I told him I had no money. He told me to sell my cars, I told him he was on crack my parents would never let me do that. At the same moment I was absolutely terrified they would. I told him to call them and if he could convince them I was willing. From what I understand that counselor did call my father and my father told him he was full of shit. That was the day my father became my hero again and not some brain washed ego maniac. I wound up getting off heroin a few months later. My father and my relationship has been wonderful ever since, for Christ sake we even work together. My mother is still struggling with the fact that I drink . But her and my relationship is better then it ever has been my entire life. Sorry this was so long and detailed I never knew I would share all of this. I hope this helps you to realize to hear that some else has been threw a similar nightmare. Good luck and if you ever need anything or need to talk about the ‘rents and the evil things they can do when they are still slugging down the Kool-Aid but you are not, email me. I am more then willing to listen. Also if a parent reads this who is considering throwing their child out on to the streets because they are no longer in the group, let me tell them from being that child: They have no place to go! The situation that they are in worsens, they feel abandoned, and the people that they turn to are usually using drugs much heavier than they are or ever have! PLEASE DO NOT BUY INTO ICECAPS TOUGH LOVE- this is what killed Bob’s son, this is what almost killed me, and what almost killed or even did kill many people I knew. Hollywood [ Post a Reply to This Message ] [> Subject: Re: Did this happen to anyone else Author: michele [Edit] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date Posted: 22:27:49 12/22/04 Wed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ok bailey, i know you've already heard this but there are some who haven't... the first time i left stl i was 16. i lived on the streets and 20 dollar hotels and at my old sponsee's house. it was bad but didn't compare to when i left atl. that time i was 18. my dad had driven a car down for me. i eventually got myself kicked out. i knew it was coming. i packed up my car with at much crap as i could and then i left. i went to stl then kc. stealing gas the entire way, oh yeah and wrote a bunch of bad checks. i had to go back down to atl to pick up more of my stuff. so i took a friend with me. i got there and packed up more crap. i made it all the way back up to nashville, then my car broke down. to anyone who lives in there car it's the most important thing to you. it's your bed, your transportation, your only way to and from work. it makes your whole life work. my friend's parents wired her money and left me 60 miles south of nashville, in manchester. i took what i could from my car and started walking. i hitch hiked from there to kc. it took me 3 days almost. i looked like complete shit when i got home. think the garage is bad? my mom made me sleep on the back deck for 3 weeks. like a dog. i woke up went to work (walked my happy ass) came home and then when my mom got home from work she would let me in to go to the bathroom and shower, then i got kicked back out. when i finally proved my self she let me in the house. well that's the most important parts i guess. there's more but i wanna go to sleep. point is that things did get better. i just had to fight so hard for it. i've never had to fight for anything harder then to survive. but i'm still here. and to everyone who will ask, i never touched a truck driver, and they never asked. actually the fed me and let me sleep. [> Subject: Re: Did this happen to anyone else Author: Jen from AZ [Edit] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date Posted: 02:27:25 12/23/04 Thu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's stuff like this that really gets me riled! It bothers me that the "Family" (talk about dysfunctional families!) pushes parents to treat their own flesh and blood like animals! I'm sorry - but tough love is bullshit! As parents, we are to care for our kids - whether we love them or not - they are a gift from God and these parents ought to be damn grateful that they have children! Do these parents not realize that there are LAWS about this?! As long as their kid is under 18 they are required BY LAW to give their kids food, clothing and shelter. Parents, if you are kicking your kids out of your house - YOU DON'T DESERVE TO HAVE THEM! I will NEVER turn my back on my child! I don't understand how any parent can do that! How can a parent look Their child in the eye - no matter how old they are - and turn their back on them? How can they sleep at night not knowing if their child is dead or alive? How can Bob and "friends" push this kind of treatment?! This is just totally beyond my comprehension! My blood is boiling right now! I would give ANYTHING to have more kids at home! I cry almost every night because I want a houseful of children! Yes, I love my son with all my heart - but yes! I also want a houseful of laughing - hell, even screaming - children running around! And quite frankly it fucking pisses me off that parents treat their children like this! Sleeping in the fucking garage? On the damn patio!? Wake up you parents who are in ICECAP! I don't care if you believe the Bible or not - I do and I believe it with all my heart and it says in there that "whatever you do to the least of these, you have done to me". Guess what parents! When you treat your kids like this, you are treating God like that! I pity you! I pity the fact that one day you will have to answer for the way you have treated your kids! And I pray that you get the justice you deserve! Sorry webmasters for going off and for using the language I used. I haven't talked like this in years, but this is a hot button for me. I get into a lot of trouble when I'm out and about in stores and see a parent yelling and/or cursing at their child. One of these days I'm probably going to get punchedt - but I will not keep silent! The treatment that ICECrAP pushes parents to do to their kids is abuse - pure and simple! And I refuse to hold my tongue when I see it going on! To those of you who are experiencing this treatment or have in the past - please know that I am thinking of you and praying for things to change. Especially that your parents wake up and seek your forgiveness for the treatment they have given you! NOTHING a child does - NOTHING - warrants throwing your kids out on the streets! The atrocities that are out there... it just makes me shudder! And want to scream and rip out Bob's eyes with my bare hands. Not much gets me this worked up.

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How to Save More Money with Sinking Funds

**This post updated on February 21st, 2019

Organizing your money is right up there with a kick in the face with a golf shoe. No one has the time or even the desire to do such a crazy thing. But, what if I were to explain to you not only how easy it is, but also how it creates success within your financial plan. There are two words that will make your money and your life so much easier. Are you ready for this? SINKING FUNDS. Wow! Now don’t you feel better already?

What is a sinking fund?

A sinking fund is a really fancy shmancy term for a savings account that is earmarked for something you are saving up for. How many of you have gone on vacation and the vacation follows you home in the form of payments? How many of you go into panic mode every Friday after Thanksgiving because you just realized Christmas, or any holiday for that matter, is coming up? Have you ever wondered what is was like to have cash sitting around for the one thing you completely forgot to budget for? We have all been there and it reminds us again how much we can’t stand managing our money!

The joy of a week-long San Diego vacation comes to a screeching halt when you realize you are going to be paying for it….and paying for it….and paying for it. Christmas starts to rob money from your mortgage and utility payments, and then has the nerve to steal the joy out of the season. You start to tell your kids to stop making so many friends in school because you can’t stand the thought of buying another birthday gift. The soccer coach calls to tell you how awesome your kid is at soccer….and that awesomeness comes with a $2,500 price tag due in full next week for an upcoming travel game. Oh, and the hot girl calls and wants to meet up with you in Vegas but you don’t know how much of that general savings account is earmarked for hot girls and Vegas. Sinking Funds will help you with all of these feelings.

We have 10 sinking funds! Each fund has a “nickname” and here are a few of them to give you and idea:

Vacation Fund

Christmas Fund

House Repair Fund

Insurance Fund

Tax Fund

New Car Fund

I don’t know what it is but I want it Fund

Emergency Fund

  Open Your Sinking Funds Today

The #1 place to open a sinking fund is at CIT Bank. They offer a low minimum of $100 and a high interest rate of 1.55%. This means that your money will add up fast!

Open an Account

    Every pay period, we deposit a little bit of money into each one. We may deposit $100/month into the Christmas Fund and $50/month into the House Repair Fund. Every Christmas we have $1,200 to start off with and every time I need to go out and get this or that for the house, I don’t have to destroy my budget that I’ve worked so hard on. These accounts start to grow and over time you start to laugh because you realize that you actually have that one thing other people seem to always have. You have pictures of Jackson, Grant, and good ol’ Ben Franklin hanging out together in your sinking funds! Those things you once dreaded are now what you wanted them to be – FUN.

So Peach, where do you get these sweet sounding sinking funds? I would highly recommend using CIT Bank. They offer higher interest rates versus a traditional bank. When you setup your account, you can link them to your checking account that you use everyday. For example, if you use a credit union in your neighborhood, you can link your credit union to your new savings account and then set up automatic transfers to build up your sinking fund. If you have direct deposit through your employer, you can set that up and have your sinking fund grow straight out of your paycheck! It is so easy that I truly believe a cave man could actually do it.

Now, what if you need to get money out of your sinking funds.  There are 2 ways to do so:

Transfer from your sinking fund to your everyday checking account – takes 2 business days via the Automatic Clearing House referred to as an ACH Transfer

You can set up a checking account at the online bank and INSTANTLY transfer the money from your sinking fund to your online checking account and have check writing privileges or ATM withdrawals

There are a few things I will tell you so you don’t get mad at me. The first thing is savings accounts charge you a fee if you pull money out the account more than 6 times in a month. However, if you had 10 sinking funds, this means you can pull money up to 6 times a month from each account. I suggest that at Christmas time, you transfer all of your Christmas money to your Checking account one time and then you can avoid the fee. Also, when you transfer money from your everyday checking account at your local bank or credit union, it will take 2 business days to get to the online bank. This doesn’t mean it is “lost” for those 2 days, it just doesn’t actually leave your neighborhood bank and enter your sinking fund until 2 business days after you hit submit. Lastly, when you send money from your neighborhood bank to the online bank, your deposits are not available for withdrawal until 5 business days later.

I once felt like we had a pot of money that we just called savings. This money had a little emergency fund in it, a little vacation savings in it, and a teeny tiny bit of Christmas in it. It was disorganized and we couldn’t tell you how much of the pot was for each of the things we were trying to save for. Our money-saving plan looked similar to a giant pile of crap. It stunk! Today, we have MONEY for things that are coming up and life is….richer.

The idea of Sinking Funds was featured on KTVK Channel 3 in Phoenix, AZ after this post was published

Here are some ideas for your sinking funds:

Christmas

Vacation

Birthdays & Gifts

New Car/Car Repair

Home Repairs

Emergency Fund

Taxes – Income and Property

Car Registration

Plastic Surgery

School Clothes / School Supplies

That thing you really really want

Insurance Premium Fund – often you can save money by paying your premium once a year versus each month

Medical Co-Pay Fund

That other thing you wanted

Lastly, I hope that I am providing you with content that is helpful to you and your bank account. It would mean a lot to me if you could leave me a comment telling me what you like and dislike – both are equally important to me. Also, don’t forget to subscribe to the Money Peach Blog below to receive exclusive tips on your money, and other extras that you won’t find in the blog posts!

Be good to yourself, your friends, your love, and BE GOOD TO YOUR MONEY!

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