#i am beginning to understand the context of your other asks lmfao when i say i was so confused šŸ˜­
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ilostyou Ā· 2 years ago
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kmt is slowly making its way down the rankings šŸ„²
this is still not giving context to where it was before šŸ¤Ø spill the tea bestie i will roast you for it but. spill
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thinkingisadangerouspastime Ā· 4 years ago
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So, this may sound weird, since I don't ship ZK, but I think the reason some dislike EIP is because they realize it was the first part of a busted enemies-to-lovers arc. EIP was part one, where Zuko and Katara see how others see them, and it weirds them out. Yet, Zuko insisted on sitting next to Katara and Katara pushes Aang away, suggesting there might be something there that they don't want to acknowledge. (1/3)
The first part of the finale was Part 2, where June reiterates the "Hey you're with your gf again!" Zuko and Katara deny it, but there likely should have been an undercurrent of 'Why do people think we're together? Do we act like it? Should we be? S/he is kind of cute.' During this time, Zuko defers to Katara and despite Toph likely being more helpful, asks Katara to be the one to take down Azula with him. (2/3)
Last part of the finale should have been the money shot, Zuko taking lightning for Katara, and in a parallel to CoD, Katara healing him. Dante Basco is right in that there probably should have been a kiss at that moment and the end scene of the gang at the Jasmine Dragon with Zuko and Katara shyly proclaiming their interest in each other. (3/4, sorry I have one more)
Again, ZK is not my ship, but EIP seemed to set up a ZK endgame that jumped the tracks at the end. By all the "rules" of a good narrative, Zuko and Katara should have ended up together, otherwise EIP should never have been countenanced or storyboarded. Full disclosure that I'm not a huge Kataang fan either, but Kataang was done a disservice by having EIP exist. It either should not have ever gotten written, or the ZK enemies-to-lovers arc should have been concluded. (end)
Disclaimer: I donā€™t care if someone ships Zvtara. Never have, never will. If the takeaway you (the general you, not anon specifically lol) get from this post is that Zvtara is ā€œbad,ā€ then Iā€™m going to assume you didnā€™t actually read anything I wrote, because that is the farthest thing from my point here. Also, this post is strictly my personal response to these asks. I donā€™t expect everyone to read this and be like ā€œYEAHā€ lmao. I am sure some people have different opinions, and that is a-okay!
In short, I think we will have to agree to disagree, anon.
Do some people consider EIP the beginning of a busted enemies-to-lovers arc? Of course they do, theyā€™re ā€œrabid zkersā€ who wear Zvtara shipping goggles 24/7 lmao. EIP couldnā€™t have been the beginning of an E-L arc because such an arc was never in the cards for them in the first place! Katara forgave Zuko in the previous episode. Trying to cram a romantic relationship into five episodes after months of hatred between Zuko and Katara would have been awful writing (and thus probably would have been a decision mercilessly criticized until the end of time, lmao). So itā€™s honestly better that Zvtara gets to spread its wings in fanon instead (much less pressure)! Also, realistically speaking, Katara and Zuko probably still had so many issues to work through in their friendship. Like yes, she forgave him and recognized he was trying to do better, but that doesnā€™t erase what Zuko has done to her and her friends. There is still plenty of forward progress they need to make before romance can even be considered between them. If that makes sense?
Also, letā€™s be real: EIP and bit with June afterwards were 100% ship bait. Just an attempt to add to the ā€œdramaā€ of who Katara would end up. A technique only effective while it was airing, for the record, because if you watch the show straight through, it becomes glaringly obvious that Zuko and Kataraā€™s relationship - while gorgeous - was always meant to stay strictly platonic within the canon timeline.
Anyways. Iā€™ll try to break down your ask one piece at a time!
ā€œZuko and Katara see how others see them, and it weirds them outā€
Yes, they are definitely weirded out! The transcript says, ā€œZuko and Katara inch away from each other, slightly uncomfortable.ā€ Which is just a longer way of describing that they were weirded out by the depiction of their relationship in EIP, lol. However, the play is not how others see them. The play is the Fire Nationā€™s imperialist propaganda, meant to demean the entire Gaang. I talk about in specifics how the entire Gaang is belittled here, but this is the key stuff I noted about Zuko and Katara:
itā€™s important to situate that and more importantly situate eip zuko and kataraā€™s relationship within the context of the show. the fire nation is an imperialist country. the southern water tribe has suffered heavily beneath them. we know from ā€œthe headbandā€ that fire nation individuals are fed pro-imperialistic propaganda from birth; that combined with zuko and azulaā€™s degrading comment of ā€œpeasantā€ towards katara demonstrate very clearly how the fire nation views every other nation - put simply, they are superior and everyone else is inferior. that attitude is therefore reflected in the eip play:
- katara, an indigenous woman, is highly sexualized and portrayed as overly dramatic and tearful, because the fire nation objectifies women not of their own people and views them as less intelligent and less emotionally stable
- she is thus paired as having a ā€œromanceā€ with zuko in eip because naturally, via fire nation logic, zuko would be able to ā€œscoreā€ an ā€œeasyā€ woman of one of the water tribes
- furthermore, the eip ā€œromanceā€ between zuko and katara emphasizes zukoā€™s position as a traitor to the fire nation; the implication is that as a traitor, heā€™d only be able to achieve a relationship with a ā€œlesserā€ woman, e.g. a woman not of the fire nation
That is not how other people truly view Zuko and Kataraā€™s relationship. That is how the Fire Nation depicts their relationship in order to degrade and dehumanize Zuko and Katara. To misinterpret that as ā€œevidenceā€ that Zuko and Katara should have been together romantically isā€¦ disturbing, in my opinion. (I really try to stay far away from zkers who use EIP as ā€œproofā€ of supposed Zvtara interest in each other like honey that is imperialist propaganda please donā€™t šŸ˜­).
If you want to talk about how other people actually view Zuko and Kataraā€™s relationship, look at the Gaang, who were around them most of all! They never tease the possibility of romance between their friends. Why? Because within canon, there wasnā€™t one. Simple!
ā€œZuko insisted on sitting next to Kataraā€
Nope! This is all the transcript says: ā€œZuko [Removing his hood.] Just sit next to me. Whatā€™s the big deal?ā€ He doesnā€™t even mention Katara! Zuko is literally just like Iā€™m already sitting. Why do I need to move? lmfao. Itā€™s no thoughts head empty for our favorite firebender šŸ˜‚
ā€œKatara pushes Aang awayā€
Iā€™m assuming this about the kiss, which Iā€™m going to make a post about in the future because I am TIRED of the tomfoolery. Anyways, Iā€™ll keep this brief - yes, she does push him away. She does not deny that she likes him. For Katara, the issue is the timing: ā€œThis isnā€™t the right time.ā€ Both Katara and Aang know they like each other, plain and simple (which is why Aang doesnā€™t ask if he returns her feelings - he asks if theyā€™d be together, because he knows their feelings are mutual). Katara pushes Aang away because, as she says, theyā€™re in the middle of a war. Sheā€™s already seen Aang die once. He might die again. She doesnā€™t want that, of course, but itā€™s a reality Katara is forced to consider.
Anyways, her decision has nothing to do with Zuko. Lol.
ā€œJune reiterates the ā€˜Hey youā€™re with your gf again!ā€™ Zuko and Katara deny it, but there likely should have been an undercurrent of ā€˜Why do people think we're together? Do we act like it? Should we be? S/he is kind of cute.ā€™ā€
Juneā€™s assumption - especially because it is a repeat of a gag from earlier in the series, when it is incredibly concerning to assume a Fire Nation citizen would be with someone of the Water Tribes because of the war and its consequences - is comic relief. Not even good comic relief, lmao, because of the horrific implications I just mentioned that come with it, but itā€™s supposed to be comedy. There was no need of any ā€œZvtaraā€ undercurrents there because a) Katara and Zuko had never expressed romantic interest in each other in the past, b) it wouldnā€™t track with the showā€™s narrative of Katara as Zukoā€™s surrogate sibling because of her position as Azulaā€™s primary foil, and c) it just doesnā€™t make sense in general. Katara likes Aang. Zuko likes Mai. There was never a love triangle there, plain and simple. Fandom invented it.
And again, if you want to talk about how people actually see Zuko and Katara, donā€™t look at June, who has never had a proper conversation with either of them. As I said, the Gaang is a much better example, since theyā€™re with the two 24/7. If they never tease Zuko and Katara about romance, why should we trust this random lady who doesnā€™t even know them?
ā€œDuring this time, Zuko defers to Katara and despite Toph likely being more helpful, asks Katara to be the one to take down Azula with him.ā€
As I mentioned, Katara is Azulaā€™s primary foil, so from a literary perspective she absolutely needed to be the one to take her down. Zuko needed to face Azula, but taking her down - again, from a literary pov - was always meant to be the end of Kataraā€™s journey (she was the only person besides Aang who was ever a match for Azula, after all, as we see in CoD). Also, how would Toph be more helpful?? Not saying youā€™re wrong, btw, I just donā€™t understand what you mean. If I was Zuko, I also would have brought the waterbender that Iā€™d already witnessed almost take down my sister already šŸ˜‚. But even if Toph would have been more helpful, sometimes practicality must be sacrificed for a fulfilling narrative arc, lol!
ā€œLast part of the finale should have been the money shot, Zuko taking lightning for Katara, and in a parallel to CoD, Katara healing him.ā€
Honestly, anon, this part of your ask baffles me šŸ˜‚ I totally understand why rabid zkers might make this argument, but taking into account the rest of the showā€¦ It just doesnā€™t make sense? Itā€™s been talked about a hundred times, but Zuko taking lightning out of romantic interest would ruin his redemption arc, regardless of if it was Katara or Aang or Sokka or anyone in the Gaang that he was taking it for, so that should be the end of discussion, full stop. Iā€™ve talked about this issue here and here before, and someone else does a great job breaking it down in this post, too. But seriously. Zuko having romantic interest for anyone in the Gaang would ruin!! His!! Entire!! Arc!! I hate when people donā€™t understand that šŸ˜­ Zuko had to learn selflessness, to learn how to put others before himself, and to unlearn the imperialist rhetoric heā€™d been indoctrinated with from birth. Romantic interest during canon for Katara, Sokka, Aang, whomever, I donā€™t care, completely disregards all of his growth of breaking away from the Fire Nation. Plain and simple.
ā€œDante Basco is right in that there probably should have been a kiss at that moment and the end scene of the gang at the Jasmine Dragon with Zuko and Katara shyly proclaiming their interest in each other.ā€
I learned in a discord Iā€™m in that Dante Basco apparently hadnā€™t seen the whole show until this year lmao. He didnā€™t know what energybending was nor did he know A:TLA ended with a Kataang kiss. Take that with a grain of salt, of course (you can watch the livestream this is revealed in here, and it was also mentioned in the recent StageIt A:TLA reunion), but I think itā€™s safe to conclude Dante Basco can be treated like any other Zvtara shipper. He likes the ship, which is totally cool, but he is not one of the writers, so his opinion meant naught in constructing the canon narrative.
ANYWAYS. My point is why would Zuko and Katara proclaim interest in each other if such interest would have to be crammed into five measly episodes?? Especially when four of those episodes were the finale?? That is awful writing, of course the A:TLA writers wouldnā€™t do that, lmao! Theyā€™d built up Kataang and Maiko already. Why scrap it and needlessly rush a romance from an excellent - and, important to note, a newly established - platonic bond? Nah.
ā€œEIP seemed to set up a ZK endgame that jumped the tracks at the end. By all the ā€˜rulesā€™ of a good narrative, Zuko and Katara should have ended up togetherā€
Nope. Idk what rules people have been teaching you, anon, but they were lying!! You deserve better than people who would lie to you like that šŸ˜¤. But yeah, narratively speaking, Katara and Zuko getting together would have made no sense. It would have undermined Zukoā€™s and Kataraā€™s arcs, it would have completely disregarded Kataraā€™s established feelings for Aang and Zukoā€™s for Mai, and again, it would have been totally rushed. Who wants that?? Normal people donā€™t, lmao. This might be hard to believe considering I occasionally rag about BNF zkers, but I actually have several friends who are Zvtara shippers! They agree that canon Zvtara would have made no sense, and that itā€™s better to play out a potential Zvtara dynamic in post-A:TLA fanon. I swear, it is only the rabid shippers who think Zvtara should have been canon, and trust me when I say no one should want to associate with them, lmao.
(And again, as I touched upon earlier, Zuko and Kataraā€™s canon narrative relationship was surrogate siblings because of Kataraā€™s position as Azulaā€™s primary foil. The show wrapped their arc up perfectly! With a lovely bow and all. So no complaints from me!)
ā€œotherwise EIP should never have been countenanced or storyboarded. Full disclosure that Iā€™m not a huge Kataang fan either, but Kataang was done a disservice by having EIP existā€
What EIP did right:
- accurate (and horrifying) depiction of pro-imperialist propaganda
- recap of previous seasons
- a lesson on consent (Aang kisses Katara, it is depicted as wrong, and Aang reacts appropriately by admonishing himself and by giving Katara space afterwards. like, people call Aang an incel/entitled/whatever, BUT HE HAD THE PERFECT REACTION?? he literally backed off and never pressured her again. i would have killed for the guy who kept getting in my personal space during my junior year to have backed off when i told him to. spoiler alert: he didnā€™t)
- hit some good humor beats
What EIP did poorly:
- honestly itā€™s not very interesting just based on watching it (deconstructing it as propaganda gives it better depth), but thatā€™s to be expected from filler
- stupid shipping drama
- not having an additional conversation/explicit apology between Aang and Katara
HOWEVER. This final point is actually very subjective. For one, A:TLA has a clear trend of not showing apologies on screen. Ex.: Katara doesnā€™t apologize to Sokka for what she said about their mother, Zuko doesnā€™t apologize for anything he did to the Gaang, Song, or really anyone (closest we get is ā€œHello, Zuko hereā€ lmao), Ty Lee and Mai donā€™t apologize for putting the Kyoshi warriors in jail, etc. etc. So while an explicit apology would have been great, the lack of one admittedly tracks with the showā€™s pre-established standards. And two, while I of course would love a conversation between Aang and Katara (thatā€™s literally MORE KATAANG. why would I refuse šŸ˜‚), it isnā€™tā€¦ necessary, to be frank. Aangā€™s mistake is treated as such - kissing Katara was wrong and he should never have done that. Like I said, Aang acknowledges this error and gives Katara space afterwards. Thus, it is Katara who chooses to be with him when the war is over. She respects the time he gave her to come to a conclusion, and the choice she makes is that she loves him despite his poorly-timed kiss (I mean, she forgave Zuko for being complicit in Aangā€™s death. Katara is clearly a very forgiving person!). So like,, it gets to a point where if someone doesnā€™t recognize that, theyā€™re probably the kind of weirdo who labels anything they donā€™t understand in a story as a plothole, lmao.
All of this is to say that EIP wasnā€™t a disservice to Kataang. It certainly could have been better, of course, and the kiss was obviously only put in to hype up drama (ā€œwill they, wonā€™t theyā€ blah blah blah), but overall it handled consent well for a kidā€™s show.
ā€œIt either should not have ever gotten written, or the ZK enemies-to-lovers arc should have been concluded.ā€
On the whole, EIP is absolutely an unnecessary episode, yeah. It was just a recap before the finale. The only important thing is its accurate depiction of pro-imperialist propaganda, but most peopleā€™s minds donā€™t immediately go to that, Iā€™ll admit lmao šŸ˜‚. And as Iā€™ve already said, there was no Zvtara E-L arc - fandom completely made that up. Which is totally fine! Thatā€™s the point of transformative works. But they are still fanon. Plain and simple.
TL;DR - Zvtara was never in the cards for A:TLA. I wish rabid zkers would stop pretending it was and have fun in the sandbox like the rest of us šŸ˜­
And for the record, anon, you absolutely, 100% do not have to be convinced by any of this! Itā€™s just my own, personal thoughts on the whole dealio. No worries either way!! šŸ’›
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iamanartichoke Ā· 3 years ago
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[please blacklist spoiler tags: #loki tv series spoilers, #loki series spoilers, #loki spoilers]
Yes, I did just watch episode 2 at 5:30 in the morning.
No, I am not sorry. Not at the moment, although when I inevitably crash later this afternoon, I will be.
Just some very, very quick - and scattered and messy - thoughts: That is a straight up lie; theyā€™re definitely scattered and messy but not very quick at all.
Under the cut for spoilers and length.
Iā€™m going to start with Lokiā€™s characterization. My honest opinion is that Lokiā€™s overall characterization feels like a fic characterization. He definitely is not Avengers Loki, like, at all. I don't know if Tom just, like, forgot how to play that Loki or ...?? That, or Loki was so much more mind-controlled than we realized and getting hulk-smashed just completely reset him back to zero but also fucked him up a little bit and affected his personality, kind of like how some people completely develop weird new personality quirks after a traumatic brain injury.
ā€¦ yeah, I think thatā€™s where Iā€™m gonna land for now. TV series!Loki feels like a more-or-less canon version of Loki, but if that Loki got hit in the head really hard and now heā€™s just a little bit fucked up but overall no worse for the wear. Which - it may be that itā€™s so early in the morning, but thatā€™s actually really fucking funny to me, lmao. God, I kill me. Itā€™s not funny.
No, but, thatā€™s pretty much how I feel. Heā€™s ooc but heā€™s also ic, and the reason Iā€™m not particularly bothered by the inconsistency, for lack of a better word, is because thatā€™s what pretty much every fic Loki already feels like to me? (Including my own, so Iā€™m not, like, saying that in a derogatory way.) Which is why I say Loki feels like a fic!Loki and to try to explain it better - there is always, for me, a little suspension of disbelief that I employ when I read fic. The reason for that is because the context, the plot, and the dynamics of the fic are usually pretty different than what we ever get in canon, so it becomes a matter of taking film!Loki and, like, bending him a bit in order to fit him into the perimeters of the fic.
The result ends up being that I donā€™t see the exact Avengers!Loki or TDW!Loki, and thus by definition the portrayal is ooc, but the version that I do see feels like a genuine extension of the canon version, possessing enough of Lokiā€™s overall traits and characteristics that he feels authentic, albeit a bit pretzeled for the new context.
I honestly think thatā€™s something thatā€™s unavoidable, just due to the fact that in fic - and now, in this series - there are a lot more variables at play than there are in the films, wherein Loki is not just a supporting character but also the villain/antagonist and is therefore very limited in what he does/what the narrative allows him to do. When those limitations are taken away, what are we going to see? Probably a lot of different things, and yeah, a lot of them are going to feel a little ooc. And, like in fic, even if the characterization mostly lands, there are definitely bits and pieces (some fics more than others lean this way) where the author didnā€™t stick the landing or got carried away or otherwise probably forgot for a while that they were writing Loki, not their own OC.
Thatā€™s the point where it strays into cringe territory for me (and where the ā€˜heh, heā€™s Loki but with a brain injuryā€™ aspect comes in), but while I had to consciously decide to just ignore those moments, overall the tone in this episode felt a bit more balanced between the new, the old, and the cringe, and less whiplash-y from the beginning of the episode to the end.
ā€¦ I have no idea if that makes sense, but what Iā€™m basically saying is that while I am enjoying this version of Loki, I do recognize all of the ways heā€™s ooc but, unlike how I feel about Ragnarok!Loki, the ooc-ness feels genuine and unavoidable rather than just a fundamental and careless misunderstanding of the character altogether. In other words, I feel like any ooc-ness here is happening despite the writers taking care to do their best, and isnā€™t just a result of Loki being lazily written by a person or persons who just doesnā€™t want to bother with him at all.
Again, I donā€™t know if that makes sense, but fuck it, there we are and Iā€™m moving on.
I liked all of the little details, including again, things that felt straight out of fic, like Loki asking Mobius why he has the jetski magazine. (Also, if any of my thorki friends read this, was I the only one who noticed that when we see Loki reading the magazine, it just happens to be open to a page with a picture featuring a jet skier who looks like Thor? l.m.a.o.)
Loki interrupting things to explain the difference between illusions vs the other power (I canā€™t remember which one, off hand, and if I stop writing to go look it up I will lose my train of thought and not finish this) was great, but his overall input and contributions to the missions inspired very mixed feelings for me. On the one hand, I loved that the narrative, via Loki, is reminding us of all these things that heā€™s capable of that the films generally left out or brushed aside or ignored - but, every time he spoke, he was met with eye rolls and sighs and just a general feeling of ā€œsomeone please shut this guy upā€ and I didnā€™t like the narrative treating him that way.
But also, itā€™s understandable bc none of the people on his team are actually on his team. None of them want him there (story of Lokiā€™s fucking life), none of them trust him, and none of them are particularly interested in hearing what he has to say. So itā€™s like, I understand why they reacted the way they did, and I donā€™t think their reactions are meant to support an overall narrative undermining of Lokiā€™s skills and input - but, the tone is hard to read for me bc I am very defensive and protective of Loki. I canā€™t quite determine the line between the TVA agents being unreliable narrators (ie, theyā€™re annoyed by Loki bc of who he is to them, but that doesnā€™t mean the audience is supposed to feel the same) and the TVA agents validating that Loki is just being a nuisance (and, thus, the audience is supposed to feel the same).
That is, I know how I am consuming the narrative (that theyā€™re unreliable narrators), but Iā€™m not sure if thatā€™s how tptb are intending for me to consume the narrative - and I guess it doesnā€™t really matter, but itā€™s worth mentioning.
In general, I really liked, again, Loki existing in his own space and watching the way he carried himself. I especially found it interesting that his hands were almost always in his pockets - for one thing it's a stance I tend to imagine him taking often in fic, but also itā€™s kind of a weird choice bc pockets donā€™t seem to be a thing in Asgardian clothing. It makes me feel like Loki is the kind of person who never knows what to do with his hands but is always conscious of them, as is common among anxious and self-conscious people, and I just find that relatable on a weird level.
I am really kinda torn on Mobius in this episode; when not interrogating Loki, heā€™s much less antagonistic toward Loki and therefore Iā€™m more inclined to take-him-or-leave-him but Iā€™ll go ahead and take him I guess. Yet at the same time, bc heā€™s not interrogating Loki heā€™s also not trying to put on a show for Loki and when you take that away, he really doesnā€™t seem to like Loki at all. It supports that Mobius only wants what Loki can do for him and doesnā€™t actually particularly care about him as a person, which is fine and more or less what I figured, but it contributes to me not really being able to decide how I feel about him in general. Idk, though, I kinda like their dynamic? Like I want them to end up friends?
Regardless, Tom and Owen have amazing chemistry and itā€™s really funny to me bc (not to be a jerk) I honestly didnā€™t know Owen Wilson could act. Like, Iā€™ve never seen him in a role where he wasnā€™t just playing Owen Wilson. So for him to not only be playing Mobius so well but also having such chemistry and a sense of holding-his-own against Tom Hiddleston is like, color me surprised but pleasantly so.
I like B-15 a lot, even though she obviously hates Loki, so idk why I like her but I do. I like Renslayer less, but meh. (Side note - when I was in undergrad in Syracuse, I took the Amtrak from Syracuse to Boston and back more than a few times, for reasons that arenā€™t relevant, and that route always had a layover at Albany-Rensselaer and every single time I see Renslayerā€™s name, I want to call her Rensselaer instead.) Shout out to the guest appearance by Casey, sorry Loki stole your juice lmfao.
The moments from the trailer that were very cringe were less so in context (though still kinda cringe, tbh). I think weā€™ve seen most of the content from the trailers in the first two episodes now, though, which means going forward, itā€™s going to be like 95% previously unseen material (aside from the brief apocalyptic shots and so forth).
One thing I fucking loved was how Loki, reading about Ragnarok, was visibly affected and even teared up a bit, and you could tell he was in his feels about it, but then later when Mobius expresses sympathy, Loki is just like, ā€œUh huh, very sad, but anyway.ā€ It was a subtle (well maybe not that subtle) but effective way to remind us that what Loki presents to other people is more often than not a mask and he keeps his true feelings close to the chest. It makes last weekā€™s breakdown have even more of an impact, I think, bc clearly Loki was at the end of his rope to allow himself to show that much raw emotion and vulnerability, but also - for me - thereā€™s a niggling little doubt there that wasnā€™t there before, in that there was probably more performance in it than I thought.
By which I mean, I think his reaction to the film of his life when he was alone was genuine but, while I previously thought his admission to Mobius later was also genuine, I now think was probably half genuine and half performative. I know others already figured that out, but Iā€™m a little slow and, also, I donā€™t mind changing my opinion and interpretation from week to week.
Along the same lines, I wasnā€™t exactly surprised to see that Loki is ā€œundercoverā€ in the TVA, but it was nice to see it acknowledged fairly quickly. Not sure I buy that Loki wants to overthrow and rule the TVA - itā€™s still a little too ā€œLoki only wants a throneā€ for me, but again, just because thatā€™s what he told the variant doesnā€™t mean thatā€™s actually what heā€™s after.
And, finally, I like the variant, I love Lokiā€™s reaction to seeing her, and while I realize that the show has acknowledged Lokiā€™s gender fluidity and weā€™re meant to assume that Lady Loki (I guess? Not sure if weā€™re going with that or not here) is Loki, I saw a theory somewhere about how this is actually not Loki-Loki, but - I wanna say her name Sophie but thatā€™s the actress, again I canā€™t go look it up bc I will lose my train of thought - but itā€™s a character who is similar to Amora and who was created by Loki and models herself as Loki but sheā€™s actually someone else.
Ugh I canā€™t remember the details of the theory, but I am kinda going with it bc I donā€™t think that Loki would look so - not surprised but just kind of ā€œoh, well, I wasnā€™t expecting thatā€ if he were seeing the female version of himself. Like, he doesnā€™t seem to recognize her the way I assume he would recognize himself, male or female. Not only does that make me feel like sheā€™s actually someone else, but also not recognizing her as the female version of himself doesnā€™t necessarily mean Loki doesnā€™t recognize her at all. He may very well recognize her as this other Amora-similar character and, if so, I really want to see how that character fits with MCU Loki (as I think sheā€™s a comic book character but, again, Iā€™d have to go back and find that theory).
Edit: I found a version of it here.
Overall score, B-. Mostly solid, but needs moar Loki breakdowns and tears. (That's just me, don't fucking judge me.) Also, I really hate that we have to wait a week between episodes. I wish they were following Netflixā€™s method of dropping the entire season at once but, then again, if they did that, Iā€™m not sure any of us would survive.
I gotta get ready for work and I deleted and rewrote so much of this and it still seems nonsensical to me, lmfao fml. Anyway feel free to interact/send me asks/whatever, itā€™s going to be a long fucking day with all of this on my mind. Iā€™ll be working my way through my dash as best as I can.
Oh, also! Loki is so fucking pretty in this episode! The TVA suit is ugly, but he makes it work, and his hair's combed nicely and he looks like he finally got an opportunity to sleep and shower and eat something and, yknow, it's working for him.
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firelxdykatara Ā· 4 years ago
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I've read your thoughts on the noncon kiss between K/ataang (and I agree 100%), so I was wondering what your thoughts were on when Damon kept on trying to kiss Elena even after she rejected him?? (Also, I'm genuinely asking! I actually ship Delena, but this has just always bothered me.)
I suppose the simplest answer to this question is ā€˜I hold vampires with dodgy morals who began the show as villains to a different standard than I hold the heroic protagonist of a kidā€™s showā€™--because the fact of the matter is, Damon began the show as a villain. (And, not that it makes much of a difference, but I genuinely do not remember Damon trying to kiss Elena again after finding out that she was wearing vervain in the third episode--with the exception of the first episode of season 2, which was absolutely a horrible moment and Iā€™ve never denied that. So where did he ā€˜[keep] on tryingā€™? Genuine question, bc itā€™s been a while since I saw the early seasons of the show so I could be forgetting something.) Damon was unequivocally a villain and a monster in the beginning of the show, and his road to become a good man was long and not at all linear, and he was never going to be the Hero, because thatā€™s just not who he is. (Which is ok, because not all good people have to be.)
The way the EIP kiss is presented, with absolutely nothing bridging the gap between that and Katara making out with Aang in the finale, it makes it seem like she figured out her feelings for him because he crossed her boundaries, rather than coming to that conclusion because she actually had romantic feelings for him and had worked through them on her own time. Aang makes his feelings her problem, without even asking her how she actually feels about him, and reveals that he assumed they would be in a relationship by now (because of the last time he kissed her without her consent, something that he phrases as mutual when it very much was not). This is especially an issue because itā€™s a childrenā€™s show, and this could very well be some of the target demographicā€™s first concept of consent in a romantic relationship--so the fact that there wasnā€™t even an attempt to point out that what Aang did was wrong and why, nevermind allow Katara to actually work through her feelings on screen, is a big problem, and when this gets brushed under the rug by Aang/Kataang fans it seriously bothers me.
By contrast, Elena was able to work through her feelings for Damon on her own time. He killed her brother at the beginning of season 2, unquestionably one of his worst actions in the entire show, and he had an arc where he began to realize that he actually cared about what heā€™d done--he actually cared about her, and was in love with her--and did everything he could to make it up to her. Crucially, though, he never actually made his feelings her problem, once he came to terms with them. He told her that he was in love with her, but then he compelled her to forget it so that she wouldnā€™t be burdened with that knowledge--and he backed the hell off. He didnā€™t even ask for her to forgive him until he was literally dying. And he accepted when she said that she still needed time--time he didnā€™t have--and didnā€™t actually push the issue until he was so delirious from the werewolf venom and in the middle of vivid hallucinations that he couldnā€™t control himself.
Elena kissed Damon at the end of season 2, thinking he was going to die--this was 100% initiated by her and unprompted by him, and it was her saying both ā€˜I forgive youā€™ and ā€˜goodbyeā€™, because she thought he was about to die. (And he would have if Katherine hadnā€™t shown up with Klausā€™ blood.) The next time they kissed, you could actually compare it to the Kataang surprise kisses--because when Damon kissed Elena in 3x10 it was unprompted (though she held the kiss and did not react negatively to it, unlike Katara who looked upset at the pre-invasion kiss and got angry at the EIP one)--but the important difference here is that Elena herself phrases it as a mutual kiss later on when she is talking to Stefan and wants to be open with him.
And the real crux of the matter here is, Elenaā€™s feelings are always front and center in her relationship with Damon. She initiates most of their pre-relationship kisses--2x22, 3x19 (where she nearly fucking jumped his bones lmfao), 4x7--and the one where she didnā€™t is a kiss a kiss she describes as mutual, and as something she needs to confess to her ex-boyfriend to keep all her cards on the table. (Actually, I just went back to refresh my memory, and she doesnā€™t just say ā€˜we kissedā€™, like Damon said to Bonnie the next day. She says ā€˜Thereā€™s something I have to tell you. And itā€™s not because I feel guilty that it happened, itā€™s because I feel guilty that you donā€™t know. I kissed Damon.ā€™ And then Stefan goes on to punch Damon because of it, because that doesnā€™t have any gross implications at all, but Iā€™m not gonna go into that bc this isnā€™t an ā€˜I hate Stefan Salvatoreā€™ rant. Yet.)
Elena chooses who she wants to say goodbye to in the season 3 finale. Elena chooses who she wants to be with in the beginning of season 4 (because, whatever she felt for Damon [and she owns those feelings and admits to them multiple times without prompting], she never had closure with Stefan, and she needed that before she was able to truly move on), and she chooses who she wants to spend the rest of her existence with after that.
Elenaā€™s choice is crucial in her relationship with Damon, in a way that Kataraā€™s never is with Aang. And Iā€™m not trying to pretend that there arenā€™t a lot of elements to Damon and Elenaā€™s relationship that arenā€™t questionable (heā€™s a 172-year-old vampire with a lot of murders in his past and a history of being a monster pre-redemption, and sheā€™s an 18-year-old girl when they start dating), but again the difference there is that I have different standards for a) enemies-to-lovers relationships vs friends-to-lovers where they are on the same side from the start, and b) vampires vs Kid Heroes, so Iā€™m going to have different expectations going in, and am probably going to react with more distaste to actions in one that might be comparatively tame, but still read very differently in different contexts.
Itā€™s 100% understandable to have a line in the sand re: sexual violence/rape, but there are still vast differences in what is considered ā€˜par for the courseā€™ in a show like TVD vs one like ATLA. In TVD, compelling humans is normal, and almost every vampire has had sex with humans under compulsion, so when this is brought out as some mark against Damon and only Damon, it makes me wonder why some fans hold him to a completely different standard than literally every other vampire on the show (possible exceptions being the ones who get turned during the show--although Caroline compelled Matt to forget she was a vampire and then continued her relationship with him sooooooo). Not liking TVD because it has issues with sexual violence/how consent is addressed when half the cast can take away the other halfā€™s free will? Very valid. Not liking Damon, specifically, for these reasons when stanning characters like Stefan, Katherine, or.... p much any other vampire on the show???? Not so valid.Ā 
Annnnd Iā€™ll get off my soapbox now lmfao. I still have A Lot To Say apparently, and some day Iā€™m gonna get into why the TVD fandom has such a weird relationship w the showā€™s issues with consent (like why Stefan and Katherine stans will call Damon a rapist while ignoring that their faves are also rapists by the very same metric), but I think thatā€™s a bit beyond the scope of this ask.
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maritimeericandersen Ā· 4 years ago
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BDRP QuestionnaireĀ 
Your Name: Sidney
Characters: Eric Andersen, Clara Baudry (Euterpe), Ferb Fletcher, Pedram Ratigan, Laszlo Robinson
Pick one of your characters and talk about their growth (we recommend choosing an older character, but itā€™s up to you!) What about their story has surprised you? What are you proud of? How have they changed from their original inception to now?
If weā€™re going by oldest characters, then Eric it shall be!!Ā 
As far as growth, I think the major thing that Iā€™ve really enjoyed is getting him to be self sufficient and taking care of things he wasnā€™t used to before being out on his own. Eric had always been one of those kids who got to take a back seat to planning anything! Like doctors or dentists appointments. He never had to deal with the bank or paying for things like his phone or the internet. And for Eric, a simple boy, if it isnā€™t right in front of him he doesnā€™t think about it. Out of sight, out of mind, baby! So him being out here on his own has put all of those things in his direct line of sight. Getting new clothes, shoes, food, water, balancing all of this on a limited budget. You know, taking care of himself.Ā  I know the bare minimum is certainly a ridiculous thing to be proud of someone for, but here I am lmao.Ā 
Obviously a big part of him having not perished and just going back home was Mr. Moon!! Huge thank you to Lauryl and Jun for taking pity on me and Eric when we first got here lmfao.Ā  Eric getting a job, food, boarding, and pity taken on him got him started! And getting a pep talk to actually apply and go to university! Where heā€™s carving out a future for himself that he chose to do and that wasnā€™t influenced thinking about the Order or his family or anything but him!Ā 
I also really enjoy all the friendships he has made!!! Ollie! And Alice, and Ian, and HARU, and Henry, (but Henry he already sort of had but Iā€™m super jazzed to see where those two can go,) and although Iā€™ve never done a thread with any one on the volleyball team (besides Jake and Olaf, but not in the context of them being on a team!!) Iā€™m sure Eric assumes theyā€™re all the Very Best of Friends. So I really love that he has friends and a little community of people that he can show for himself!!Ā 
And Eric really hasnā€™t changed from my original thinking of him. I donā€™t know if this is a good thing or a bad thing but he was always supposed to be that kid in class who showed up a little late and asked if he could borrow a pencil. I think, if anything, the things around him in his story have changed a bit in my own brain in order to fit in to the universe of BDRP now that Iā€™ve been here a little longer (almost a year!!!) to have a better understanding of how the world works!! But yeah, all and all, he is still on the original path I had for him going into this.Ā 
Pick another character (or the same character if you only have one) and talk a little about where you WANT them to go. What are your plans for them going into the new year?
Moving on to Clara:
What I want for her, personally, is to soften up and lean into her more excitable side. The one that isnā€™t so concerned with money or the way she looks or what other people are perceiving her to be. I want her to open up more!! Being a Muse will be super helpful to her because I think for a character to help someone else, theyā€™re going to need to have a bit more vulnerability to them? Like, all mentor or helper type characters have to gain some semblance of trust from the person they're helping to get them to see that they arenā€™t in an environment to be judged or taken advantage of. Right? Like uh, Obi Wan isnā€™t necessarily up front with Luke about everything but he gives him many truths, like how he and his father were very good friends, so Luke trusts him! Or when Professor Keating is vulnerable with his students, telling them about how love and poetry and those deep dark feelings inside of you are what life is all about, and they trusted him wholeheartedly!
In order to do that, sheā€™s going to need to let go of her own fears!! And grow! I want to see her learn that part of being peopleā€™s friends, or when being someoneā€™s guide as a Muse. I think her coming to understand that sharing her story and history will be very helpful in her journey to becoming this generationā€™s Euterpe. I want to see her come into her more active magic by developing emotionally! Working through her anger and letting go of that to make more room for the part of her that wantsĀ to connect and be around people.Ā 
I am also really excited to see where her connections take her in the coming future! The Groove Room as her first helping gig to Ber! Being in a band!! Working at Tianaā€™s place and performing original music there!!! Getting to talk more with Franny, her idol!!!, will be fantastic for her. Iā€™m so super duper excited to see where she goes.Ā 
Pick a thread or a plot that youā€™re proud of and talk about why you loved it.Ā 
This is an insane question because I genuinely love them all so much you guys šŸ˜­Ā 
For Eric: Any thread heā€™s had with Jun since that has helped move Eric along in getting to be his Own Person and getting his act together. Again, thank you Jun! I really really enjoyed his first interaction with Lou? I thought that thread was hilarious and yet cringed the entire time writing it because Eric is such a ridiculous person. I also liked his thread with Olaf when they went on the tour of the university!! Their conversation about the gryphons was really a challenge on Eric and having to think about hunting from the perspective of the other side, which he had never really done before. Also just him having a genuine and intelligent conversation with a fairy who is now also playing a sport with him has probably been very helpful to him!!! I love his threads with Haru because getting to write his reactions to her learning about the human world always brings me such delight. All this threads with Ollie are great because I get to write that part of Eric that is just a dumb boy hanging out with his bestie!! I love that so much since heā€™s so much more relaxed and I find their banter to be an easy back and forth. Getting to meet Isa for the first time was a blast, I really enjoyed their interaction. Most recently I was super de duper in love with him and Henryā€™s re-meeting. I hadnā€™t had a chance for him to really face the Order without him having to go all the way back to everyone, so getting that connection with Henry was a good inbetween and getting to write him talking to someone who knows the life and his plight was so cathartic for him!Ā 
For Clara: Any thread between her and Franny is so fun!! Her first meeting with Franny was great because I got to try and capture one of those moments thatā€™s like, you know and adore this person and theyā€™ve done so much for you but they have noooo idea who the hell you are. So that was a lot of fun for me, not so much for Clara lmfao, but hey it was the first step in getting her to this stage in her relationship with Franny, which she never thought she would even have!!! I really liked the two threads she got to have with Callie before she departed, it was very kind of Pet to give me those moments of giving Clara the knowledge of what/who she was!! Otherwise she would be walking around, still in the dark about her magic! OH, I loved the thread with her and Mei Q. !! I think it was important for her to get the advice of being open to people from an outside, neutral source who had no stake in Clara at all other than to just tell her what was up. Even if she didnā€™t really trust it lmao, it planted the seeds in her brain. I also really liked her thread with Imelda where she was trying to finagle the truth about her and Oā€™Malley out of her lmfao. It was a challenge for me to think of dialogue that wouldnā€™t give her away, so that was very fun!!! And thank you Imelda for not firing her! And then of course, her thread with Ber and getting him to let her help her with the Groove Room! It gave me a chance to use her magic and start to explore the beginnings of how she is going to approach being a Muse while also giving her the first taste of adventure. Getting to write a Clara whose mind isnā€™t wrapped up in her account balance and is instead thinking about the love of life is always a very fun time for me, so that thread has been nice to write.Ā 
For Ferb: Literally any thread with his siblings. I want to take this moment to personally thank Emma and MK for giving me the Flynnā€™s in the span of ?? like four months?? Which was insane to me, because when I was writing his app I was like, ā€œI will probably never get my siblings, and I will just have to accept that.ā€ but then bam, next thing I know, there they were. So anything with them has been like my dreams come true. I loved his thread with Mei K. asking him to prom via sign!!! Too pure. The thread with Su when she was helping him work through what being a sibling is like and then cementing their friendship was really good because it got him to open up and doing that with Ferb seemed ?? impossible to me, so getting to write that was wonderful! Also his thread with JJ! Getting to gush about sign language was so much fun for for me, so thank you so much, Bee for giving me that opportunity!!! His and Vanessaā€™s thread at the carnival was really fun, too, especially since I made it my personal goal in that one to cut any dialogue from him and work on how he communicates without using words in that sort of fast paced situation where he couldnā€™t use his phone to know what she was saying, so, I thoroughly enjoyed that one, too.Ā 
For Ratigan: I honestly find any interaction with Ratigan to be a blessing to me because I genuinely feel terrible for asking for threads with him since he is so mean. His thread with Tiana and getting her to take up his offer on a loan was awesome, especially since it was one of the first things I got to write with him!! Very much appreciate Emma for willing to put Tiana in that position! It also gave me the thread with him and Simba, which was really funny since they are such opposites and getting to write Ratigan playing nice but secretly envying everything that Simba is/has was really interesting. Both his threads with Errol of course because it just gives me the opportunity to write him being the mean spirited person that he is. I adored his thread with Franny when she told him the news that she was pregnant!!! It gave me the chance to reflect on him and his relationship with her and the fact that he actually does like her and would snipe anyone who came for her. Not that he would admit that at all. LOVE his threads with Bianca, them staring one another down like a pair of cowboys waiting to see who will draw first has been so much fun to write!! I love writing that part of him as his paranoia knows no bounds. And his thread with Zira?? Has been immaculate because writing him in a place where he doesnā€™t think he is the superior one in the room would never happen in any other context, so I absolutely love getting to write him getting put in his place lmao. Also, having just finished the AU thread with LP was really fun!!! I liked getting to play into the tropes and the campiness of the spy genre and getting to see what he would act like in the face of genuine emotion.Ā 
For Laszlo: Literally all this threads lol. Writing Laszlo brings me such joy, as he is such a ray of sunshine. Him and Lachlann were a hoot and a half. I looooooooooved him and Eilonwy!! Both because she is such a treat but also because getting to write about him witnessing magic being put into his art while speaking to the person behind the magic was fantastic for what he wants to do in the future! Both his threads with Simba have been great, I love their vibe so much. The three-way thread between him, Lou, and Tiana for the mural was super fun!! I got my first taste into what discussing art would be like while also getting to think about how Laszlo would approach art while getting help from two other voices, so that whole thing was just chef kisses. His thread with Cornelius right now has been really lovely, I like getting to write them having a fun time together and being bros!! His threads with Franny have been so good, I adore them so much, their relationship is so fun to write. And of course, Marlin, too!! Their first thread was really fun and gave me the opportunity to write comedy as well as trying to figure out how he would react to embarrassment and all that. His thread with his mum is still coming along but I am in loVE with it so far. Petunia is the best, so getting to write with her and trying to figure out how that relationship has developed with them both being adults now has really been such a delight for me. Iā€™m so happy because, bruh, like Ferb, when I was applying for him I told myself I would probably never get his intimidate family and that was going to be okay. Now look at us, who would have thought-Ā 
In terms of your own writing, identify 1-3 strengths and talk about why you think itā€™s one of your strengths.
Warning: Cop Out Ahead
Hmmm, I think the only strength I can think ofĀ  would just be that Iā€™m open to changes? I have no problems in people damaging my ego because I simply do not have one lmao. Thereā€™s really nothing I will be offended at needing to move around or change to fit. I like being able to hear what other people have to say about my writing, even if itā€™s to do something completely different with where I was going because I wouldnā€™t have ever thought to do it like that!! Which Iā€™ve learned in rp is super great since there are so many people here with so many different ideas and perspectives and characters and it brings me such joy to hear you all talk and collab and read what youā€™ve written!!!!Ā 
In terms of your own writing, identify 1-3 areas of improvement.
Oh gosh, where to even begin.Ā 
1. Iā€™m terrible with metaphors and comparisons lmaooo. I will attempt to write something lyrical or flowery and then Iā€™ll come back to it and be like:
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so that I definitely need to get better at!! Stop comparing things that donā€™t make sense!! Also not just using them to make my point as clear as glass. I think a big portion of why I write terrible, embarrassing metaphors is because Iā€™m scared of being misunderstood so I feel like I have to give everyone a giant neon sign saying what I mean like seven times over. When in reality, everyone here is an intelligent individual who also writes very well so they will have no problem figuring out what I mean because, in all honestly, whatever I am writing isnā€™t going to be that convoluted!!Ā 
2. My sentence structures are always all over the fucking place. I do run ons, fragments, repetitive, I do all the sins baby. I need to clean it up and get my act together. Which brings me to my next point,
3. Editing. Iā€™m very terrible at editing my own work because a lot of the time I donā€™t want to read my own writing so it makes me reluctant to go back over and check what I did. But then when I DO go back and read it to remember what I did for a reply, I read all the easy mistakes I could have fixed which means the person Iā€™m writing with read it, too, which makes me cringe more and makes me not want to read what I wrote all over again, and then it is just one massive positive feedback loop that ends with unedited work and a bunch of nonsense left for someone to interpret. I gotta stop it!! I either need to get some self confidence somehow or just suck it up and get to editing more so people donā€™t have to suffer for my mistakes.Ā 
Pick one of your plots, or even just a character, and come up with a list of 3-5 ā€œmentor textsā€ where you can look for inspiration or research, then write a short (2-4 sentences) why you picked those texts. (They donā€™t have to be books, either!)
I feel like Iā€™m back at school doing a Work Cited page lmao. But okay, for Ratigan:Ā 
Of course, the most obvious: The Adventure of the Final Problem by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Thank god this was a short story, lmao. Honestly, reading it you could tell a bitch was just trying to put a wrap on it because Doyle doesnā€™t really go into detail about anything besides Holmes and Watsonā€™s road trip. Like it never goes into detail about the big back and forth game between Holmes and Moriarty, it just tells us that they had one and this story takes place at the end of it. We only ever get Moriarty through Holmeā€™s storytelling and from afar from Watsonā€™s point of view. So itā€™s kind of funny that this guy, who appears in one short story and only mentioned in one other book, who had barely any character besides being smart, has been turned into this notorious villain name. I meanā€¦.his powerā€¦.
Anyways, the reason I read it was because Ratigan is the Moriarty of Basil of Baker street, so I figured it would be useful to read the source material since my only experience with the character was Andrew Scottā€™s in Sherlock the show and then Jared Harrisā€™ in Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows, who I still reference since I think he was a brilliant casting choice and is closest to the guy described in the story besides the guy who played Niles in the Nanny showing up as him in that one episode of Star Trek Next Gen lmfao. It was actually very helpful when trying to think of how to adapt him into a person rather than a cartoon rat. It gave me more insight into the criminal world aspect of his plot, too,Ā  and how he ran it and everything: ā€œ He sits motionless, like a spider in the center of its web, but that web has a thousand radiations, and he knows well every quiver of each of them.ā€ So that made me think, well why wouldnā€™t he want to be involved? Why would he want to sit pretty instead of being involved with things like Ratigan? Well, if I made him do it at one point and know that he hated it, then he would do everything in his power to not have to do stuff like that ever again. Hence why he was an assassin and why he worked his way to the top. This also gave him credibility and made people fear him. I also liked how petty the character was. Like the whole part about him trying to kill Holmes and paying someone to push a brick off a roof or run him over with a carriage had me laughing. ā€œKill him in the dumbest way to make his obituary look ridiculous!!ā€ But yeah, aha, this was mainly very helpful to me when trying to think of how his criminal background would work.Ā 
Die Hard (1988) because Hans Gruber baby!! He is one of my fave og villains for many reasons! Heā€™s calculated, witty, intelligent, and dangerous. The movie does a good job of not just telling us these things, but showing us! In his scheme, in his back up plans, shooting the glass upon knowing a bitch is barefoot in there, and trying to get McClane to trust him by improvising in three seconds flat. Obviously the best part is when the police think theyā€™ve got him on his heels by cutting the power when actually that was the plan all along to get into the vault since he knows their protocols!!! I really like that clever and planned out approach to crime and villainy for Ratigan (even if I am too dumb to know what I am doing (^: )Ā  Like Hans, he doesnā€™t think that what he is doing is for the Great Good or that what he is doing is the right thing. He is fully aware that he is not a good person! He had the chance to get out, but it was of his own volition to go back to that life. I took that villain approach to Ratigan from Hans in that there is no complex reason as to why he does what he does. Heā€™s not like the big purple grape who thinks he has to do it as a favor to the universe, he just wants money and to live comfortably, the end.
Person of Interest, for a lot of reasons actually, but mainly for the character of Elias!! And his whole organized crime operation. He is among that smart and calculated villain trope (even though he wasnā€™t really a villain over the course of the show lmao.) What I liked about him was that he went into the life of crime because he knew that was how things were going to get done in the world. Watching the show you see the hierarchy of the criminal underground and how he cultivated crime into an organized and sort of civil matter when given rules and regulations!! His overall poise, too, was the kind of villain I wanted for Ratigan. Also that Elias was the guy that people could go to if they needed something done that they themselves couldnā€™t get around or that was just too grey area for them to go through with themselves. Heā€™ll pull the trigger, heā€™ll plant the bomb, heā€™ll ruin someoneā€™s life. I love that concept a lot for a villain, because they already know theyā€™re knee deep in the shit, why let someone else corrupt themselves when they can do it and do it without the whole fuss of morals.Ā 
And now, a wishlist! Jot down a few themes or stories or genres etc that you want to maybe pursue in the upcoming year! (i.e. a good olā€™ fashion forbidden romance, maybe you want to dig deep into racial identity etc) This doesnā€™t have to necessarily be attached to any characters or stories you have nowā€“ itā€™s just meant to help you see for yourself what kind of stories call to your heart.
More technology vs magic things! I feel like that theme of the natural vs the made would be fun and interesting considering the juxtaposition of the town to the forest and stuff!!Ā 
Also, I mean even doing small, stupid shit with technology would make me very happy
More friendships!! (esp for Clara lol) More enemies!Ā 
I would love to do something of like building a house or renovating a place together. if any one wants to go HGTV, please come see me :^)Ā 
Scavenger hunt type deal? Like a video game! Get one thing in order to get the next thing so that you can get the next thing until they eventually find what they were looking for.Ā 
Misunderstandings! Either ones that are funny and light hearted that result in hijinks or the good old fashion devastating kind that sets trust on the edge.Ā Ā 
And then to echo a few of yalls, and MK in the werewolf vs vampire chat, the opportunities of tension between those two parties. I think that would be SO cool??? not even for like a Big Boss Battle, but the build up to it would be really good! making alliances that wouldnā€™t otherwise be made, stirring the pot to make tensions worse, blackmail, threats. I barely have any stake in this, lmfao, but hey this question asked for things that didnā€™t have to be attached to my characters so. I would just be sitting on my computer with a bowl of popcorn for it. Big Vampire Diaries/the Originals Energy.Ā 
OPTIONAL: Why do you RP?
Since this whole experience has been brand spankinā€™ new with my first go around in the rp world, the answer is just very simple: it is an absolute delight.Ā 
Getting to write with people that double as this built in community/fandom that has been created is actually insane to me. It makes me so !!!!!!!!!!! because itā€™s so cool!! Thereā€™s really nothing out there like it! I like the collaboration aspect so much because it keeps everything exciting and fresh at all hours of the day! Not even just like within your own stories, but getting to see other peopleā€™s stories that Iā€™m not even apart of.Ā 
Honestly, getting to read the things you guys write for free makes me feel like Iā€™m doing highway robbery. Every day I am a humble peasant who wakes up and is getting to feast upon what you monarchs come up with.Ā 
Which just makes me want to say thank you to everyone here because I felt (and STILL DO) like such a fucking idiot coming in here not knowing what I was doing. But you all just welcomed me on in, made me feel comfortable enough to continue writing, and I sincerely believe you all kept me going on this wild and wacky year. I know I donā€™t talk at all in the big group chat because I am chicken shit!!!!!!!!!! but youā€™re all very lovely people, I feel lucky and blessed to have found you. Thank you for taking in a newbie like me into your long standing home!!Ā 
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adam-is-suffering Ā· 5 years ago
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Homestuck Day 7 ------ part 3
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God Iā€™m making a counter for all the times Iā€™m going to say ā€œwtfā€ in this comic because so far, itā€™s at least 5, which doesnā€™t sound like a lot but things just went to okay I can understand this to legitimate confusion over the types of machinery around the house.Ā 
And I doubt a simple ask on the discord will help me understand because theyā€™ll probably sayĀ ā€œyeah this device was made by charlie sheen, and its used to buy off organs in the Homestuck black marketā€ because I know them well enough that theyā€™d give me bs answers like that
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Rose I hate you. WHATS THE LATHE?? IS IT THE HUMAN TORTURE DEVICE? WHAT DOES IT DO? I DONT CARE IF IT DOESNT NEED MONEY TO BUY, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT DOES INSTEAD
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And the only way to get more money is selling things on the black market, John, so get your shit together, its gonna be a brutal adventure.
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The mailman actually stole the game and wants to play, thats the only possibility here. That or Dad did it. Maybe this is why John hates his dad.
Wait DOESĀ John have daddy issues? Was I right about that? Like will that come up in the future??Ā 
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Iā€™m pretty sure Rose will be the only character in the game who genuinely tries to help out the player and sort out this lathe shit because from all the other characters Iā€™ve seen, thereā€™s no way theyā€™re not going to pass up destroying their friendsā€™ rooms because theyā€™ll have The Power
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John enters the room he didnā€™t want us to see at the beginning of the comic, which is where he finds his own father mid-game with the last Sburb copy. Dad stuttersĀ ā€œJohn this is not what it looks likeā€ and thats why John has daddy issues.
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Nevermind, Johnā€™s having a flashback and weā€™re seeing the game in the car. Wow. Thats just.. so boring.
Give me drama, Andrew Hussie.Ā 
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John, thats not what she asked.
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:/
Not happy, but its 2009 and shit was crazy back in those day with them internet slurs.
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This is my favourite out of context Homestuck quote by far.Ā 
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HAHA EVEN BETTER! JOHN UNDERSTANDS, WHAT A GUY
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If I was Mack, I would sayĀ ā€œAnd I think you are elegantā€ but Iā€™m not so Iā€™m just going to sayĀ ā€œkā€.
K.
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Suspicious... It fits perfectly. I am now squinting my eyes.Ā 
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I feel like dad will think heā€™s tripping on acid when he get home, and if you donā€™t believe me, his fucking sonā€™s bedroom looks like it was broken into, thereā€™s machinery all around his house thats blocking doors and overall taking up theĀ  whole room, Johnā€™s bedroom suddenly expanded tenfold and all the man wanted to do was get some groceries to bake.Ā 
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Oh this is cute. I have been swooned. By all of them.
ā€œpl elab on ā€˜incidentā€™ā€ The abbreviations??? 2busy4this, Iā€™m kinda in love with you
And grayslacks66 asking which tie he should use??? UGH
wellPressedAtire??? GIVING US DAD TIPS ABOUT PENS?? <33333!!!!!!
(I almost wrote dad tops and I felt the life drain outta me for a second there)
Anyways, this has beenĀ ā€œadam swoons easily by random dad strangers that show the slightest hint of being obliviously cuteā€ segment of the show. More at 10.
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Listen, I like anime John, but you donā€™t see me flaunting it around. Sometimes you gotta keep you weebness hidden because as much as you call others weeb, you will always be the weebest of them all. Thatā€™s my philosophy. And also my internal repressed struggle.
Anyways, what? Weebs in this neighbourhood? Lmfao die u whores
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DOES JOHN THINK DADā€™S IN THE CIRCUS OR SOMETHING LMFAO??????
Man lol, that explains a lot but just bc he has harlequins doesnā€™t mean he is one, John.
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jacksjoke Ā· 5 years ago
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yo! i've been following your tumblr mostly just for cql because aha :^) you know how it is :^) but it's left a void in my chest. i know you rb a lot of content for other shows, so i figured i'd ask you for some recs (and the best places to watch them uwu)!! thanks so much i'd die for u
Hello anon!! I totally get you šŸ’€ Iā€™m gonna assume that you want me to rec BLs, so Iā€™ll tell you only the ones that Iā€™ve liked best and why, where I watched them, and possible trigger warnings as well for you :)
So first up is my favorite: Theory of Love
Who stars in it: Off Jumpol (as Kai) and Gun Atthaphan (as Third), aka OffGun, aka icons and best friends who we stan to this very day
Why I recommend: I adore this show for so many reasons but overall the vibe is just so good dfhkhkhj It references like a trillion rom-coms and I wonā€™t spoil it but there is a literal montage of some classic rom-com scenes done by the main characters that is just so fucking hysterical, I cry every time. Thereā€™s also a compilation here of movie posters that they recreated to imitate some classic rom-coms as well, which made me DIE from emotions I tell you what. This show is just so funny and makes fun of itself with characters that you genuinely grow to adore. Kai is a chaotic dumb of ass bisexual and we love him in this house (as infuriating as he can be lmfao). Itā€™s so rewatchable GOD 10/10 would recommend.
Warnings: There is no sexual abuse in the show of any kind, except for one scene that is just a kiss and very mild, so I think youā€™d be all good there. :)
Where to watch: I watched it on YouTube! Hereā€™s the link to episode one part one
History3: Trapped
Who stars in it: Jake Hsu (plays Shao Fei) and Chris Wu (plays Tang Yi), aka weirdos who canā€™t stop laughing while filming and being dumb in general and I love that for them and me
Why I recommend: I loved it. The main couple is adorable with so much chemistry and I will be totally honest, they remind me SO MUCH of Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian. Like on the rewatch I just did of this show, I couldnā€™t believe the similarities the character Shao Fei has to Wei Wuxian and his counterpart Tang Yi has to Lan Wangji. Like. When I tell you I was shook the house, I mean it. But the side couple is ALSO iconic the house and the CUTEST like if you donā€™t want to adopt Zhao Zi and also officiate his wedding by the showā€™s end, Iā€™d be shocked dfhhkghdjkl All in all, itā€™s such a funny show with very tender, heartfelt moments that are to die for. This show has it all: plot twists, cops falling in love with mobsters and vice versa, a character whose goal in life is to just eat as much good food as possibleā€¦ amazing.
Warnings: The show has fighting and violence but seeing as you watched The Untamed, Iā€™m assuming youā€™re okay with it lol There is an instance where one character tries to rape one of the leads by drugging him, so keep an eye out for that, but I think it will be obvious because he starts to pass out and you will know whether you feel you have to skip the scene or not. He isnā€™t undressed, it isnā€™t anything remotely graphic, but he is groped by the asshole I wonā€™t name man fuck that guy but thatā€™s all!
Where to watch: I watched it on newasiantv, link to ep1 here
Dark Blue Kiss
Who stars in it: Fluke Gawin Caskey (Mork) and Podd Suphakorn (Sun) aka two of the most gorgeous and sweet dudes alive fdhgldfhgdk AND BL vets, New Thitipoom (Kao) and Tay Tawan (Pete)
First off: dshhgdksj If you havenā€™t seen Kiss Me Again or Kiss the Series you might be a little confused. Dark Blue Kiss is sort-of-a-continuation-but-not-really of those other two series, and it sort of adds to the experience if you have seen them. If you want to, just watch Kiss Me Again and I think youā€™ll be okay honestly; itā€™s just because you might want context of the characters (Pete and Kao, their friends etc.) and their relationships to one another going into Dark Blue Kiss.
Why I recommend: NOW two of the leads, Sun and Mork, have one of The Best relationships in any BL Iā€™ve ever seen because they have real conversations and have real conflict and issues that they work to get through. Rain (Sunā€™s younger bro and Morkā€™s bestie) is an absolute delight and their story arc throughout the show is so iconic we just have to stan. I wonā€™t get into Kao and Pete fhhkhdj because I just have Opinions on fucking w characters/relationships for the sake of drama and thatā€™s what I think this series did to them, unnecessarily ahem But otherwise itā€™s funny and real and again if you dont literally love Mork and Rain and Sun by the end of it did you even watch the same show???
Warnings: There is a brief scene where one character tries to get w another who is like get tf AWAY weirdo lmfao but there is no actual abuse bc they are stopped well in time to avoid it
Where to watch: I watched Dark Blue Kiss on newasiantv as well because the episodes on YouTube tended to not get subbed as quickly as I wanted which you will understand if you watch this lmao. Here is the link to episode one of Kiss Me Again as well as a link to episode one of Kiss the Series if you feel like watchin those two beforehand
Tharntype the Series
Who stars in it: Gulf Kanawut (Type) and Mew Suppasit (Tharn) aka those two guys who you might see do a shit ton of fanservice that I diligently ignore because I hate fanservice lol This show exists in the same universe as another BL that I am reluctant to put on here lol but will get into later on.
Why I recommend: BEFORE YALL FLAY ME ALIVE djkhgldhgfdjhhkjd OKAY LISTEN genuinely, on a very real level, I FULLY understand why a lot of people here refused to watch this show or couldnā€™t finish it. Youā€™re totally valid and legit I almost stopped after ten minutes because I was like here we go AGAIN. However! I was so drawn in by the acting that I wanted to give it a chance, and Iā€™m SO GLAD that I did. Gulf and Mew, as well as Mild (who plays Techno) and Kaownah (who plays Lhong) and everyone else who acts in this show, is incredible and their chemistry is insane. I would say itā€™s some of the best chemistry and acting Iā€™ve seen, BL or otherwise. You get angry at the two main characters interchangeably and I truly feel that that makes it real, you know what I mean? There is no oh heā€™s in the right, fuck that other guy 100% for either of them. They are both real, flawed men who grow so immensely throughout this series where by the end youā€™re so proud of their development and the love they find for themselves and in each other??? Because it doesnā€™t feel like weā€™ll get there, but they DO. And itā€™s BEAUTIFUL. Weā€™re getting a second season, which to me is always a tad worrisome because I do think it ended very well and if they fuck with everything (cough KaoPete) just to fuck with it and stir the pot Iā€™m gonna be Upset. But for now, itā€™s amazing and speaks on topics that arenā€™t ever addressed. Itā€™s an unfortunate reality in BL that the way so many relationships begin is through sketchy-consensual (drunk, coerced) or flat out like non consensual sexual shit, and this show dives into the aftermath of sexual abuse, the mental impact that has on a person, and how damaging it can be if left unattended. I would give it a chance. I really do think itā€™s a well done series. Oh and Techno is so relatable and the only one with a brain cell in this show half the time jkdfhhdlkj
Warnings: Like I said, this show is not an easy watch at times. Very often, in fact, it can be difficult. There is homophobic language, two of the characters (I dont want to spoil everything) have been raped in the past, one as a child (which is NOT GRAPHICALLY SHOWN, donā€™t worry) and the other as a teenager/young adult, which is sort of shown but not in too much detail. Another character in present day ā€œdoes stuffā€ to another that isnā€™t totally consensual, more than once (which is probably my biggest problem with the show and the one thing I really canā€™t excuse because like bro I donā€™t care how big your crush is, donā€™t be an asshole, point blank), but every other sexual thing in the show is consensual and very much wanted
Where to watch: Here is episode one on newasiantv if you want to give this a shot :)
Heā€™s Coming to Me
Who stars in it: Singto Prachaya (Mes) and Ohm Pawat (Thun) aka just two adorable boys
Why I recommend: This show definitely has one of the more unique plots among BLs. I wonā€™t spoil it, and as with all of these I recommend going in without looking up plots because like I know for me movie trailers etc just tell me everything and there doesnā€™t seem to be a point in watching the movie if I know so much beforehand. The main characters are cute together, there are funny moments and moments that make you cry. And itā€™s a happy ending, which we love to see :)
Warnings: There is a major character death, no blood though, and you will understand in context that it isnā€™t as bad as it seems right now lol Nothing that isnā€™t consensual, which is a miracle in these shows. Overall wholesome content. There is like a weird storyline with one of the characterā€™s moms which was Different to say the least dfjhdflhgkjf but it didnā€™t ruin the show for me or anything
Where to watch: newasiantv seems to be my go-to lmao
3 Will Be Free
Who stars in it: Joss Way-Ar (Neo), Mild Lapassalan (Miw), and Tay Tawan (Shin). If you watch Dark Blue Kiss or any of those before this, you will recognize Tay and Mild as Pete and Sandee (just friends in those shows). Joss is just such a funny, sweet guy and so is Tay Lowkey biased for them and I honestly often favor TayJossā€™ chemistry over TayNew, which I think is controversial lmfaoo but it has to be said lol and obviously Mild is a badass actress and talent so having her here is amazing
Why I recommend: So this is the only BL thus far to feature a polyamorous relationship, which is sort of crazy but Iā€™m so happy itā€™s been done at least once now. The three have such amazing chemistry and you really grow to care for each of them as individuals as well. Theyā€™re just really awesome and I adore them and miss them every day fdjghfdglhkjd Thereā€™s also a trans actress!! :D
Warnings: There is quite a bit of gun violence bc one of the characterā€™s fatherā€™s is a mob boss. Two side characters are killed, one much further into the show so it hurts even MORE, and one of the other side characters therefore to me doesnā€™t receive the ending they deserve; it was very messy and I think they deserved better. A woman is in an abusive marriage to a man, which sucked and I skipped a lot of it even though it wasnā€™t necessarily super violent. I just donā€™t like that stuff ://
Where to watch: Surprise surprise, newasiantv
Until We Meet Again
Who stars in it: Fluke Natouch (Pharm) and Ohm Thitiwat (Dean), Earth Katsamonnat (Intouch) and Nine Noppakao (Korn). Fluke and Earth invented being friends likeā€¦ā€¦they are so fucking cute and they are both actually queer (have been in public relationships with men) which is always so rare to see and really great :)
Why I recommend: Side couple TeamWin is absolutely iconic. I adore them with my whole body so if for nothing else, watch it for them LMAO But for real InKorn is such a cute couple and PharmDean has a very nice relationship too; they talk about consent and have healthy communication which is so refreshing lmao
Warnings: The show does open with a double suicide by gunshot. I wonā€™t say who, but it is in there. The two main characters have flashbacks/PTSD/nightmares (one worse than the other) which you will understand in context if you watch, but itā€™s definitely worth the watch
Where to watch: This show is currently airing and I watch it on YouTube; hereā€™s the link to episode one part one
Love By Chance
Who stars in it: Perth Tanapon (Ae) and Saint Suppapong (Pete), Mean Phiravich (Tin) and Plan Rathavit (Can). This is the show that is in the same universe as Tharntype, but the actors who play Techno, Tharn, and Type are different actors in this show than from Tharntype. Itā€™s confusing and messy lol
Warning: Iā€™m putting this before the why I like it because I think itā€™s necessary for this one. I hesitate to even put LBC on here because there is so much of this show that just makes me uncomfortable. When I first watched this show, the second BL I had ever watched, I had no knowledge of BLs, the actors, or really anything to do with any of this world. So, having grown up with film/tv life where every actor is 27 playing 17, it didnā€™t occur to me that the actor playing 18 would in fact be 17 instead. Perth was I think 17 or possibly 18 while filming (I donā€™t know exact dates), which includes sexual scenes that I didnā€™t even feel comfortable watching BEFORE I knew his age, let alone trying to rewatch the series while knowing about it. I am 20, and was 19 last year when I watched this, so it really skeeves me out to watch those kinds of scenes (BL or otherwise) if actors or actresses arenā€™t at least 18 or 19. It seems weird because Iā€™m 20 and a queer girl, not like a 50 year old pedophile or something like that, but for my own comfort I tend to skip the more explicit stuff. On my first watch, I skipped the Tharntype, TumTar, and Techno storyline because frankly I didnā€™t care. Going on to watch Tharntype the Series, I was even happier to have skipped so that I didnā€™t have to go in with a preconceived idea of the characters from having watched LBC. One of the characters in this version of events is raped or coerced into sex; I donā€™t even know the details because I just couldnā€™t be bothered to give it a chance. I firmly believe you can watch this show without watching any of their storylines (and skipping over the more sexual stuff, if you feel you have to), which I know sucks to say bc the actors are all good and I like their other work and them as people, but I just couldnā€™t do it. It is of course up to you.
Why I recommend: Basically I recommend this just for TinCan lmao and on the chance that you do decide to watch Tharntype, it pays at the end to have a knowledge of the LBC characters because again they are in the same universe and it wonā€™t be as cool if you donā€™t get it right away like WHAT!!! You know haha so yeah There is going to be a season two dropped sometime this year, focused I believe on TinCan, so Iā€™m literally so fucking excited. Dreams are coming true
Where to watch: I found this show on both Dailymotion and newasiantv
Hey again anon itā€™s been a minute dfhlhghjd Iā€™m sure this is way longer than you thought and probably donā€™t want HA but I wanted to be as thorough as possible for you and anyone else who might be new here you feel So some shows I didnā€™t get into that I watched include Great Men Academy, Together With Me, 2Moons and 2Moons2, Love Sick, ā€™Cause Youā€™re My Boy (aka My Tee), History3: Make Our Days Count, SOTUS the Series, History2: Crossing the Line, (currently airing) Why R U?, and 2gether.
If you get through the ones I talked about above and want me to talk about these other ones, Iā€™ll do that too!! I hope this helps you and others :D āœŒļø āœŒļø
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moralhymn Ā· 6 years ago
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honestly im curious after seeing it on your blog what is sort of the foundation of ignis/ardyn or the dynamic? I've never seen the ship before!
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hi there hello youā€™ve opened up a WHOLE CAN OF WORMS HERE BECAUSE I LOVE THIS SHIP SO DAMN MUCHā€“
honestly iā€“ i donā€™t remember how i started shipping it. for.. context, i will say that when i first dipped my toe into the 15 fandom, i actually started as a gladio rper. he was my favorite, with the combination of the anger issues and obvious intelligence that he had ( and lbr gladio does have some serious anger issues; heā€™s not a bad guy for it though! it just makes him more interesting to me as a character because how many times is something like that shown having consequences? you see it with gladio and how he grows and matures. i love it! ) and my twin from another mother was likeĀ ā€œwhy arenā€™t you writing ardyn?ā€Ā 
me and my unsuspecting ass:Ā ā€œi donā€™t know i guess iā€™m trying to veer away from villains here.ā€
she just laughed at me. a lot. because she knew. she knew what was coming. so i, in my dumb naivety, forge ahead in the game and then i met ardyn and it was all downhill from there. especially after altissia. so i kindaā€¦ acquired ardyn as a muse and boy i didnā€™t know what i was getting in for. i really, truly didnā€™t. heā€™s come to mean so much to me as a character because heā€™s so beautifully complex. i have a serious love for seeing dark side characters, especially if they started on the good side of things, and between his flamboyant mannerisms, his speech patterns ( WHICH I ABSOLUTELY LOATHE TRYING TO IMITATE IN RP BECAUSE I NEVER FEEL LIKE I GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO THEM ), and his choice of archaic wording, he was practically gift-wrapped for me.
and his parallels to both jesus and lucifer are both seriously big draws for me too.
so, anyways, about the ship!Ā 
honestly, i couldnā€™t begin to tell you where it came from for me or where i started looking into it. it just sortaā€¦ happened! i think it also happened in large part because i am honestly dissatisfied with ignisā€™s popular ships of gladnis and ignoct, seeing him together with ardyn just drew me in. i mean, i can appreciate those two ships and more power to anyone who ships them! if it makes you happy, then go for it! but a lot of gladnis is written in ways that set my teeth on edge ( and i must reference one fic where gladio was calling ignis baby. i am fairly certain that ignis would stab you with a fork if you tried that. ) and as for ignoctā€¦ itā€™s probably the fact that itā€™s a gross misinterpretation of the warrior-retainer archetype relationship that they share, not to mention how maternal ignis is towards noctis. i can see and understand the basis for both ships but they lack a certain luster for me.
but boy, for some reason, ignis and ardyn just have this fascinating interaction with one another. i could go into over analysis here on every scene they share together but i wonā€™t, lmfao. but thereā€™s something interesting about the fact that ignis gets especially bitchy when talking to or about ardyn, to me. i mean, ignis can be pretty bitchy in general ( and before anyone tries to say heā€™s not, he really is. his dialogue in the japanese is legit him trying to sound like a tough guy and he just gets so bristly when talking about ardyn. ) but thereā€™s like an uptick in it where ardynā€™s concerned. now, some people might goĀ ā€œbut wait doesnā€™t that mean he doesnā€™t like him?ā€ and, yeah, i can see that. but when you ship a rarepair, you reach for what you can get and are satisfied with things. also, everyone interprets things differently! ignis seemsā€¦ acutely interested in some way in ardyn but thereā€™s also other subtle hints of their interactions, at least to me.
two of the biggest factors are sagefire and ignis being able to tell noctis who ardyn really is once heā€™s free of the crystal, including his history.
now, exactly where could ignis have learned this stuff? the answer is, of course, ardyn. ardyn, whose new dlc literally calls him the sage. ardyn, who would probably answer ignisā€™s demands because heaven knows gladio and prompto donā€™t go near him.
also the fact that prompto asks ignis if ardynā€™s not his type and ignis doesnā€™t bother saying that, no, ardyn is not my type, kindaā€¦ raised my eyebrows more than a little. ( also, ignis not really contributing to talks about that kind of stuff? hm. interesting. )
so i honestly believe that ignis has met with ardyn, more than once, to learn both sagefire and ardynā€™s history. i mean, the only person who could have reliably told ignis about it was him. sagefire is another thing that iā€™m working out in my head but, you know, ignis is definitely a man whoā€™ll pursue knowledge in all its forms and ardyn, being ardyn, being this two thousand year old being who can show him so many different things, would probably lure him in like a moth to a flame. and given how i view ardyn, i know that heā€™d respect ignis for his own person. not as noctisā€™s caretaker. not as a man who was being groomed to be a general. not as part of the flock. but his own individual with his own wants and desires. and i think thatā€™d suck ignis right on in, to be honest. now, iā€™m not saying that the bros donā€™t recognize ignis as his own person, far from it - but the way that they handle things just kinda shows that, as tight as they are, thereā€™s misunderstandings between them.Ā 
i just see ignis and ardyn having this super dazzling chemistry and interesting influence on one another as well. like, ardyn might sleep around, but if he finds someone who can stand as his equal, the way i see ignis being able to, then youā€™ve got his interest securely on you and that can be a powerful, frightening thing, to be honest. after all, itā€™d make one wonder what it is about them that would bring in the attention of a man whoā€™s seen so much and done so many things in his life, right? but ardyn would see ignis for his intelligence, his skill, probably even finding his sharp tongue and wit charming too. and thereā€™s the fact that he never seems to take any action against ignis either. i mean, even in altissia, he doesnā€™t really fight ignis; he just kinda makes a few cursory gestures but overall? ignis beat the snot out of him and ardyn just seemed to take it. i mean, yeah, there was probably the wholeĀ ā€œoh you canā€™t really do anything to hurt meā€ deal, but this is ardyn weā€™re talking about here. ardyn, who messes with the other three something awful, after all.
but ignis? he literally stops him with a raised hand at the stronghold. heā€™s impressed by him putting on the ring ( and rather surprised ). he probably taught him the sagefire technique. and i will never shake the idea that it was ignis who got ardyn to talk about himself, his past, his relation to the lucis caelum bloodline, and so much more.Ā 
i just honestly find their dynamic so fascinating to look at and to explore. i think that out of all four of the bros, ignis would be the one ardyn would go for anyways. prompto, he already knows how to handle. gladio? well, ardynā€™s just going to irritate him. noctis? he hates the poor kid. but ignis? ignis would definitely make ardynā€™s head turn so fast that itā€™s a wonder it doesnā€™t fly off his neck. so, yeah, i just think that out of all the people ignis could hook up with, ardyn would probably just lure him in so fast and so hard that itā€™s amazing to me.Ā 
so i guess the foundation is, in the end, this wholeā€¦ ( vague hand gestures. ) this whole deal of thinking that theyā€™d just have this super magnetic interest in one another. i mean, yeah, even after altissia? yeah, even after altissia. it just? i donā€™t know. i think that in some ways ignis would lure ardyn in as well for how heā€™s both selfish and selfless at the same damn time. ardyn would crave that level of devotion for himself, since it was something he lost before he was cast out of history. to see it in ignis? oh, itā€™s just like icing on the cake. how can he resist that? he wouldnā€™t be able to.
i just have a lot of reasons and viewpoints for this ship and oh my god i rambled i will shut up now.
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doc-boredom Ā· 7 years ago
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sorry im kinda new to your blog and i dont really understand this drama or whatever with the people that keep sending you asks? are people mad at you for writing rpf or the shipping or something? i have no context for whats going on
Oh hello friend let me tell you
THE DRAMA
Thereā€™ll be a tl;dr at the bottomĀ  but i really wanna tell this story cos itā€™s so funny to me
also read more because it gets LONG
So once upon a time Natalie got into a group called TWRP. Amazing wonderful LOVELY group of aliens (aliens and robot, technically? lore is silly fun and also part of this story so get ready to return to this) from the future of the 1980s -glorious chorus of heavenly angels in the distance-Ā 
at the same time! natalie was also drafting up the VERY beginnings of her space pirate epic SWIFT LIKE MERCURY, the idea was this: Julian a space pirate, ding dong the reluctant alien space prince, but who would be in julianā€™s crew!? lots of suggestions were thrown around in YE OLDE DINGDULIAN CHAT back in august and none of them worked. maybe this wouldnā€™t be a fic, maybe it was all for naught.
and then the sexy sexy cone man hip thrusted his way into her life.
that IS to say I fell in love with TWRP at the NSP show i went to with my best friend. i didnā€™t know WHOMST the fuck they were so seeing them come out in stage in full costume HIGH OFF MY ASS was probably one of the most memorable things in my life. We drove back to the hotel, DD and Julian were streaming katamari, I bought tickets for ANOTHER TWRP show in my hometown that were twelve dollars and then I foundĀ 
THE WIKI
COMMANDER MEOUCH SOMETHING SOMETHING SPACE PIRATE
I was flabbergasted. NOT ONLY was there lore for this amazing band BUT here was the answer staring me right in the face. JULIAN WAS A FURRY, HIM HAVING A LION MAN AS HIS SECOND IN COMMAND WOULD BE PERFECT. i quickly told the chat (to which they all went ??? and didnā€™t quite take to it at the time) and then promptly CRASHED until the following morning.
so! i woke up, our CO adventure continued (we saw IT) and I started to discuss some plot ideas with the chat. At the same time I started to actually glance at the tumblr fandom. Oh wow! Everyone HAD THEIR OWN IDEAS! It was open to explore! How fun! They created face canons and personalities and stories for the boys and Iā€™d be damned if my crazy plot making ass (who years before had looked at supernatural and saidĀ ā€œcrowley become the first cross road demon by making a deal with judas which killed judas and brought jesus back to life, thus creating the resurrection storyā€ and was going to write a whole past lives destiel fic spanning back to ADAM AND EVE) wouldnā€™t take that and run. I made the post. TWRP IS GONNA BE IN MY OP FIC!!! I was so excited to start this, to make something amazing.
ā€œdont put twrp in your OP ficā€
I looked at the ask in COMPLETE confusion. wait! they didnā€™t even know HOW I was going to put them in! they could literally just be playing music in a scene! my petty scorpio ass felt a rage of which i had not felt in months.Ā ā€œfuck you.ā€ it said.Ā ā€œNOW I HAVETO WRITE THE FIC YOU BITCH.ā€
(spite was one of the biggest driving forces in creating SLM and to me thatā€™s why i think you see the story and the voice of it change over time because it became a thing of love but thaTā€™S NOT THE POINT)
so here i am having a grand olā€™ time and im coming up with my boys and im like YEAH HELL YEAH and all my dingdulian friends are like oh hey i actually LIKE TWRP? and i got a PM from someone who will remain anonymous but who is a close friend of mine now
ā€œhey, loving all the new stuff youā€™re bringing to the fandom!ā€ they started. there was a bit more conversation and then IT happened.
ā€œJust be careful about shipping.ā€
I looked at the message and another quickly followed.Ā ā€œnsfw gets weird tooā€
my scorpio ass, also fueled by love of all things sexual and romantic, looked at this with a growing sense of dread. I HAD ACTUALLY BEEN SETTING UP A SMALL SUNG AND MEOUCH SHIP. WELL SHIT! THAT HAD TO GO APPARENTLY?! I told my friends and we all rolled our eyes but we ACCEPTED IT. Thatā€™s what it was apparently.
Until I thought about Havve fucking Ding Dong with his robot dick while Sung held him in place and played up to DDā€™s praise kink
ā€œoh no.ā€ i said softly because that one fucking day dream planted the seed of needing to do something. sung would be so loving and so wonderful and who was i to let that just slip through my fingers! so i just approached cremedoodle (creator of WW, RR, and FF) and wentĀ ā€œhaha uh, what about ww chris and sung for a threesome in the fic crazy rightā€
and it wasnā€™t THAT crazy
especially when it became just WW and Sung
and god damn it were they in LOVE
ā€œwe canā€™t do this.ā€ i said after a few hours of us coming up with all this ROMANTIC shit and some sexy shit too letā€™s be honest, itā€™s me after all.Ā ā€œoh god weā€™re doing this, arenā€™t we?ā€
so we decided to do it. fuck it. all caution thrown to the wind. the moment sung and wwĀ ā€œmetā€ over the vid feed in chapter 6 i got a feeling of intense dread in my stomach. i couldnā€™t believe it, i was really doing this, they were really going to be in LOVE ohĀ  my GOD.
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beach bonfire chapter where julian and dd point out how fucked sung was since he was obviously into wwĀ 
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CHAPTER WHERE THEY WERE DRUNK AND MAKING OUT.
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In that moment i realized something very sad but also very liberating.
the twrp fans that were all fucking awful werenā€™t reading my fic.
i wanted them to read it. i had put time into it. i wanted them to see my budding lore and like it, but at the same time the OP fandom was taking to it so well and enjoying TWRP so i said fuck it, ill take it.
We started to talk about Ring Rang and Phobos, sarah and I started talking about Meouch and Liara. it was going to be good, it was going to be fun.
and then i fucked up
thatā€™s right
me
i came home from a crazy trip in MN and I was in a shit mood and I accidentally published Sung/WW fluff drabbles in the tag
I got fucking ripped a new one. i was a piece of shit for even ever thinking that was okay.Ā ā€œYOUā€™RE BEING DISRESPECTFUL! THEYā€™RE REAL PEOPLE! DONā€™T DO T HIS!ā€
yeah you read that right.
TWRP fanDUMB thinks that my adorable sweet Lepid Phobos, with his big eyes and his missing wings and his penchant for romance novels, my hyperactive sung with his star singing and his empathatic core WERE THE SAME GUYS ON STAGE.
This is literally what all of this drama is about.
It was in that terrible slew of fucking stupidity that I realized I didnā€™t care. It was TOO late at that point. They should have seen it sooner. They should have gotten me sooner. I had somehow slipped under the radar and I had beat them, in a strange sense, because not only did I care
i was going to keep doing it.
FAST FORWARD TO THIS YEAR (i know, this story is still going) i make a nsfw, i start posting my sung/ww extra chapters there because im too much of a pussy to put them in the fic still. my friend gets me to write a meouch/dd/julian fic. im just about to post a havve/sung thing when IT happens.
The fake screenshot.
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a blog that posted jUST this and a post about the device (an album by the band) put this out into the open and deleted IMMEDIATELY afterwards. the fandom went into shitstorm mode. i cried on and off the whole day because i was being harrassed by anons and my friends were too.Ā 
but the more i looked at it
the more i started to REALLY understand how it was fake.
not only does it not have the usual bubble to the right (it should show that twrp has seen the most recent message even if itā€™s their own) it doesnā€™t touch on the fact that the OP said something about lore? even to sayĀ ā€œhey, loreā€™s cool! thatā€™s not the problemā€ would make more sense
also
they never responded to any of my friends
sure they read it, but following a slew of desperate users trying to get answers they never made an official statement so my gay ass pulled out the wine and said YOUā€™RE GOING TO MOPE AND THEN YOUā€™RE GOING TO KEEP DOING YOU.
So weā€™re here now, with the fact that I know things about the band irl and the fact that I have shipping and people are pissed and I really donā€™t care. the info i know about the band i keep safe and SIMPLY SAYING A GENERIC WHITE DUDE NAME IS NOT REASON TO START A WITCH HUNT (not going to elaborate on this, this is only posted for the sake of anyone who is on the hate train who may be reading this) this is where fiction does not equal reality. i dontĀ  look at havve and go AH YES THERE IS MURDER MAN, IF HE IS NOT MURDER MAN WHEN THEY GET OFF STAGE ILL BE UPSET because thats STUPID? Like literally the IRL band members created personas and lore that they then gave to the fans to expand upon and also sorry guys,,,, itā€™s the internet,, in the words of DDĀ ā€œitā€™s weirdā€ but you canā€™t ask people to stop. it wonā€™t stop. thatā€™ll just fuel the fire
so yes, i like twrp shipping and i like shippng with my ocs and i like writing about how sometimes when you touch sungā€™s core it turns him on and about how meouch has a knot because im a fucking awful skanko but at least im having fun lmfao
so
TL;DR
shipping is apparently illegal and so is nsfw in the twrp fandom and i do both unapologetically and i hope i inspireĀ  other people to start doing it more often.Ā 
the twrp fandom is not like this anywhere else btw. this is just tumblr being tumblr, as usual. youā€™re not going to get brownie points because you didnā€™t let me write sung fucking his hot gf you absolute dumb dumbs, youā€™re not going to get anything from it except for an inflated ego which youā€™ll lord over everyone, so do me the favor of expiring in a trench and let the fandom do what itā€™s supposed to do
HAVE FUN!
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dovechim Ā· 7 years ago
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After a hectic week I can finally sit down and dedicate the next hour or so to continue my story because I really want to get to the part which I'd like to hear your opinion - and everyone else's - about!! ā˜† Long Story Anon
So we kept messaging for the following days, both busy with our respective classes; but before I knew it and I can't say I was surprised, he invited me to do something again less than a week later. We're from a considerably small city, there isn't much to do around here, so we had a hard time coming up with an idea. Well, he suggested to pick me up and we'd go back to his house to eat something, to which I agreed. I was with my friend and we were both jumping around from excitement ā˜† 1
Needless to say my friends all loved him; they were happy that after such a long time and with such bad luck in love I finally found what seemed to be the last guy on earth who was worth more than two seconds of my life. I knew going to his house implied something more serious than making out could happen, but honestly I didn't mind if it did. In context, he lived with his little brother and parents; where we're from it's common at our age to still live at home since we've not graduated yet ā˜†2
But he'd mentioned during the first date that his parents were away for an anniversary holiday and his little brother was staying with the oldest one who lived in his own apartment with his fiance; meaning we had the house for ourselves. As planned he picked me up and took me there, had some food delivered and we watched terrible horror films on netflix. He'd cheesily try to put his arm around me on the couch and I'd move closer, ending up snuggled together with my heart about to burst ā˜† 3
At one point both brothers and the fiance show up with some food, for some reason and that's when I knew half his family on the second date lol. But they moved upstairs quite quickly after eating and left us alone to watch the movies. Eventually he'd kiss my cheek, not-so-subtly letting me know he wanted to KISS-kiss me, but me being the nervous little shit I am didn't really know what to do. It'd been two whole years since I even attempted to make out with someone!! ā˜† 4
So he had to move even closer and he said, which I'll never forget: "you're so shy", which I wasn't surprised about, it's not common for a 22 year old to be that reserved, I guess, but with a little bit of patience that single moment turned into the best first kiss I've ever had. I was so scared he'd be a terrible kisser, like I'd experienced before bc that's just a deal breaker for me and everything else about him was so perfect; but boy...was I wrong. We ended up making out for so long that ā˜†5
Our lips hurt, and he didn't even try to go too far, already noticing that I wasn't the kind of girl to tear off our clothes and start fucking (not that I didn't wish I were lol), so he just held me tight and took me home eventually. God, the memory of his kisses will never leave my mind. To this day I still get butterflies because it was the kind of kiss that makes you feel like your bodies fit together and makes your toes curl :') ā˜† 6
im so soft for you and him already :ā€)))) itā€™s so sweet that he wasn't afraid of scaring you off and still went for it!! a lot of guys i know are hesitant about dating an inexperienced girl bc theyā€™re scared they will scare her off, and once my friend asked me how he should chase after a girl who has never dated. i literally got so pissed lmao i just saidĀ ā€œjust fucking treat her like a fucking normal person!!! what are you intending to do that might scare her off???ā€Ā 
We had a third date after that, about a week later. We went out to eat and it was the day he started posting instagram stories with me and tbh I was surprised. In our generation it takes more than just a couple of dates for a guy to 'announce' he's not 'single' anymore. You know, like if he had intention of seeing other girls at the same time he wouldn't be parading me around for everyone to see, which only fed my hopes of him being 'the one' even more ā˜† 7
omg yes :/ the dating culture is so complicated lmao like ppl can be going out with different people at the same time and thereā€™s a certain time after which youā€™re considered exclusive... itā€™s so tiring tbh
Another week passed and out of the blue he was asking me to meet his parents. He was very lowkey about it; he said he missed me, mentioning they'd returned from NY and asking if we could meet again that night, but "my parents would be there too, is that a problem?" lol. So I said no, obviously, even though I was shitting my pants, I'd never met a boy's parents in that context before but he seemed excited. He picked me up and we drove back to his place where they were waiting for me ā˜† 8
I decided I didn't want to read too much into it back then, but still couldn't help but notice that the older borther+fiance had dropped plans to go to dinner with us so 'the whole family would be there to meet me'. Did that mean him bringing a girl home wasn't that common? Was I actually that special? As if I didn't notice myself falling fast and hard for me enough, his whole family welcomed me with huge open arms. His little brother, extroverted as they come at the age of 10 did everything ā˜†9
To include me in the conversations; the older brother would tell embarrassing stories. The parents, both doctors, both dating since college and pretty much the whole family (fiancee included) were some of the most welcoming people I'd ever met. They treated me like a family member from the very beginning and noticing how nervous I was they would try to make the dinner as easy going as they could. The guy in question, let's call him Jed? Would hold my hand under the table to calm me down ā˜† 10
Or rub soothing circles over my the fabric of my jeans to distract me when a family member would embarrass him. I fell in love with his family as fast as I fell in love with him and I just couldn't believe I'd found someone so perfect. We'd make out until our lips were sore and he'd drop me off at home always leaving me with a feeling of sadness that I had to say goodbye. He made me so happy that I started to go out more, meeting my friends I was just in such a good mood because of him ā˜† 11
no you must have been so nervous!!!!! i mean i get that he was low key but Ā still... parents are a big deal. i hope his intentions were rly pure and that he was that into you!! but im glad they were nice :ā€)Ā 
I'd even dare to say he made me a better person in ways only I can understand. He'd text me what he was doing or who he was with every day, all the time, even if I didn't ask -which I never did. Sure, he wasn't perfect; sometimes he'd forget we had plans. I have a feeling he lied to me a couple of times but about nothing really major; sometimes he'd be in a bad mood and be sarcastic and annoying af but honestly nothing too bad. All in all I had absolutely nothing to complain about himā˜† 12
It wasn't until around a month and a half into the 'relationship' that we went out for drinks and then back to his place that he tried to have sex with me (he'd waited to bring it up more than any other guy I'd ever met lol). I didn't directly tell him I was a virgin, he kinda guessed, and he was more than okay with it, even saying 'I'll wait as long as you want to'; and damn I didn't really want to wait that long, it was just that the time was never right! ā˜† 13
At this point we'd both had dinner with his parents several times already. They told me in that household they'd set the habit of having dinner together every night, and were more than happy to let me into their little tradition. At more casual nights we'd sit down and watch some film on netflix, the parents and little brother always moving upstairs at the end and leaving us both alone to make out some more lol. I was even invited to his dad's birthday dinner at a fancy ass restaurant ā˜† 14
this is so cute šŸ˜­ im just very ugh whenever a guy kinda hints at sex bc dude u gotta make me WANT it not just ask for it :/ but it sounds like he was super respectful!! and tbh im just very bad with other pplā€™s parents, but his sounds rly perfectĀ  šŸ˜­ do such ppl even exist??? i cant even remember the last time i ate w my family :/Ā 
So by the third month I already felt part of that family tbh. I'd cooked alongside the mother like lifelong friends, and sat down for coffee after dinner to talk about how fast technology is moving with his dad. His little brother would tell jokes or ask me to teach him some guitar and I think they began to love me as much and as fast as I loved them, honestly. I was even invited to the dog's birthday part lmfao I was just unable to attend but was kindly provided with video memories ā˜† 15
Everything was going so perfect, I think we could've lasted so much longer but maybe just the timing wasn't right. I still remember him dearly though, but back then I had my heart broken so bad that I simply wish I'd never met him. What hurt the most was growing so attached to his family and then out of the blue, and without a single chance to say goodbye I never saw any of them again. I should've known life isn't a movie or a book and nothing that starts so well can end just as happily ā˜† 16
WHY ARE YOU USING PAST TENSE?????????? NO!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO SHAKEN RIGHT NOW bc this feels like that part in a book where the authorā€™s just leading u towards that horribly devastating ending and thatā€™s exactly what ur doingĀ  šŸ˜­
The last night I went to his house - btw we never visited MY house because MY family as much as I love them to death aren't as welcoming as his was with me, so until I knew FOR SURE this guy and I were serious, I decided to suggest activities that required not being at my place lol - the whole evening started weirdly. He'd been taking longer than usual to text me, and it was getting too late so I though we just weren't doing anything but he insisted he wanted to see me ā˜† 17
And fuck, I wanted to see him to, once or twice a week just wasn't enough anymore and I missed his touch so badly. So I agreed for him to pick me up, even though he kind of strung me along for a few hours. By the time he picked me up I hadn't eaten, not knowing wth we were going to do but he said he'd had dinner before picking me up. Why would he though? He knew we had plans, which usually involved dinner, why not wait for me for eating? Either way, I'd missed him, I wasn't about to fight ā˜† 18
We reached his place and his mom was already going upstairs for sleeping along with the little brother; the father was performing a surgery so we were alone at the living room together. He was a little tense and I didn't understand why, he said he was tired because he'd had class up until late and I asked if he just wanted me to leave but he asked me not to; he wanted to see me, he wanted me to stay. We cuddled on the couch and I had to wake him back up several times, growing annoyed ā˜† 19
And when the dad got home he quickly got up and pretended to do something in the kitchen. The man had to eat and we had to wait for him to leave to sit back together, the whole situation was awkward af. I was wondering if I should just call a cab and leave, but he insisted not to. At around 2am (it was a friday) while making out he asked if I wanted to go up to his room, to which I said yes. He knew what that meant, so he was excited about it, going upstairs to check if his room was clear ā˜† 20
Damn, I hit ask limit again :'( I'll have to leave it here right now but I swear I'll get to the point eventually lol I'm sorry!! also thank you for giving me your patience and space to tell this story, I feel like this way I can tell it without filters about what really happened or how I felt and actually receive honest unbiased opinions
omg i literally cannot believe u ended right there??????? i hate tumblrā€™s ask limit. im on the edge of my seat right now!!! thank you for taking the time to send me these, im so invested in ur story now its insane!!Ā 
come back whenever you have time bb
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briteboy Ā· 7 years ago
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yelling @ santi, iā€™m evil again (what else is new), SOME REALLY REALLY OLD ASKS, one GoT spoiler at the very bottom (beware)
*angrily slaps santi* GET YOUR SELF TOGETHER YAH POOP HEAD
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Lou and Fiona deserve happiness pls let it happen ty
they do ;-; it will happen, donā€™t worry, no one suffers forever <3 iā€™ve actually been planning out louā€™s story and iā€™m excited to actualize it hehe
I just read all of Santis story. Dear god, it is amazing. I cannot begin to describe how much I love it. I have been really sick lately and have such a hard time concentrating on anything for more than one second but I have not been able to look away from this story, not even when I re-read it for the third time. You are an amazing writer and I have fallen in love with every charachter you have introduced. I teared up so many times and my heart began beating fast, it was really an experience.
OH MY GOD ;___________; YOU READ IT THREE TIMES WHAATDOSOIGODFSKL holy shit thank you so much, i donā€™t even know what to say right now lmao ;-; iā€™m just kinda in awe that i was able to grab your attention like that and that you enjoyed it so much and just askjdjfsd THANK YOU i canā€™t say anything else but just thank you, people like you make this all worth it <3Ā 
A case of the novembers is the kinda story you read and you just know its going to stick with you for awhile. Like ones day, you'll be long gone in the future, doing something totally different, older wiser, all that bullshit, and you'll just randomly remember what a bittersweet story it was.
OMFG ;___; holy heck asjdjnfkdkjs this really got me right in the heart lmao. thatā€™s the kind of story itā€™s always been for me and seeing other people interpret it that way as well is just mind boggling, thank you <3Ā 
You are evil. My poor heart hurts. ;______________;
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you've ruined my life
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Life hack: listen to the entire Hamilton soundtrack whilst working out at the gym. By the end of it, you'll have lost half your body weight due to sweating and crying at the same time (pls help this was such a bad decision)
OMG thatā€™s me with grimesā€™ art angels lmao i go hord to kill v maim and venus fly
hamilton fans also go hord i respect it. learn more about history get swole killing two birds with one stone
Okay this is so fucking random but a while ago you did a post where you talked about perfect bby gianni saying that he spent a lot of time in introspection and like Thank you 'cause now I have a word to put on this thing I do when I try to figure why I feel certain things or what my relationship with people/random shit is and why and yeah I kind of understand myself a little better now so thx a lot!!! šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜ Also, you're great.
i think i was actually talking about santi (ā€™cause thatā€™s where weā€™re at right now, in that period of introspection for him heheh) but YES omg that makes me so happy ;-; itā€™s a good word lmao and i do the same thing, in fact iā€™m always trying to figure out my relationships with everything in order to understand myself more. thatā€™s kinda why iā€™m so into astrology haha. iā€™m glad you finally got to pin down that feeling for yourself, itā€™s the best when that happens <3 YOUā€™RE GREAT TOO šŸ’«
NOOOOOOOO MY FAVS THIS CAN'T... LOU.... SANTI PLS... THIS IS A RIOT šŸ˜­šŸ˜­
letā€™s start protesting santi in the streets
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Hi!! Umm I'm guessing you do but just in case, did you know there was a tear accessory? I think it's an eyeliner (cause you mentioned having to draw them yourself)
yeah i do! i mentioned the ones by s-club, iā€™ve used those a couple times. but i like drawing them myself because i feel like itā€™s weird to have the same single teardrop every time one of my characters cries (and we all know theyā€™ve been crying a lot lately lmfao) if they didnā€™t cry often i probably wouldnā€™t feel compelled to draw the tears. but i donā€™t mind drawing them honestly, itā€™s kinda fun lmao. thanks for your consideration <3Ā 
so im sitting here thinkin....... what if santi goes on this trip and coms back and lou is in a relationship!?!?!
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šŸ‘santišŸ‘getšŸ‘itšŸ‘togetheršŸ‘
HEā€™S TRYIN
i want to die
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AAAH SOLE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN CUTE DEVIL CHILD AND I ALMOST DIED TWICE TATOO MAN YES
I HAD TO READ THIS LIKE THREE TIMES TO UNDERSTAND IT LMFAOSDOJDKF BUT YES their relationship kills me the most ;__;
wait santi tried to kys :'(
WHERE U BEEN he did Ā :{
what font do u use in your histories?
arial!
hi u have a really pretty blog and I hope you have a good day
THIS IS SO SWEET I DONā€™T DESERVE IT ;-; I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY TOO HONEYBEE šŸŒ»
nyooooooom
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I WENT M.I.A FOR A LITTLE AND I COME BACK TO READ UP ON THE STORY AND HOW DARE YOU ASHDDJFKL
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@teishajenaie on instagram looks like Rooney to me, idk if you'd agree but ??
i see it!! definitely in the eyes and nose. also sorry i answered this literally like 3 months later lmao
gooey by glass animals gives me santi vibes :) ive been listening to it on repeat (bc im tht bitch) and it was making me think of you and his story! c: i hope you dont mind me over here lmao anyway, im excited to see where it goes and real excited for a back story for lou!! <3 lots of love
omg haha thatā€™s actually funny because i used it in that one scene of him tripping, although itā€™s like completely a gianni song to me (at least personality-wise, itā€™s even on his playlist on my character page) and noooo i donā€™t mind, i love that song and i love when people recommend me songs!! i have a whole bunch of recommendations in my inbox that i need to acknowledge omg. anyway Iā€™M EXCITED THAT YOUā€™RE EXCITED, especially for louā€™s story, itā€™s coming up reeeeeal soon <333
i feel so late to the party but i Just started reading your story like five minutes ago and im absolutely entranced by it already and i cant wait to catch up and finally understand what to heck is going on
this was sent literally forever ago when santi and molly were out there being wild in the desert lmao so i hope you caught up and everything.Ā ā€œentrancedā€ omg thatā€™s such a wonderful word iā€™m honored
i didnt think i could love you more but the fact that you watch arrested development makes me so happy. i cry. my boyfriend has a mr manager, bluths frozen bananas shirt thats literally my favorite thing ever.
OMGGG YES i watched it once forever ago and i need to re-watch it asap lmao. Iā€™M PRETTY SURE I BOUGHT THAT SAME EXACT SHIRT FOR MY BROTHER FOR CHRISTMAS ONE YEAR
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Just a biiig prank. Huge
this one is from so long ago i donā€™t remember the context but i laughed at loud when i read it. huge
i was playing with uncharted for the first time today and they said Navarro in it and i was like THATS MY BOI SANTIII
santi infiltrating everyoneā€™s lives my bf played uncharted tho!! it looked cool. like indiana jones. i liked the marketplace part. a monkey stole his apple
Hi sunny! I really am in love with your story (even if it's tearing me apart at the moment) and just wanted to say you're cool Stay strong ma dude
HI THANK YOU <333 youā€™re also cool my dude and iā€™m sorry for tearing you apart (if it makes you feel any better this story tears me apart on a daily basis)
what packs and expansions do u have for ur game?
ummmmmm all of them except vintage glamour and fitness stuff. i wish i didnā€™t buy some of the stuff packs lmao but what can ya do i actually didnā€™t even get vampires or bowling or parenthood until like a month ago lmao iā€™m late to the party
Oh shit she's been dead hasn't she. Like this is all a drug or alcohol infused bender of mollys memory, she's probably never left. They're probably still at the hospital. I hope I fucking wrong but shit I also hope not. Poor santi
weā€™re so far past this but i just wanted to publish this anyway lmao it was a good theory! and this person was so sure of it it kinda made me wish it was true lol. sorry if that disappointed you but iā€™ll always remember this one in my sad sad heart šŸ’”
how long did it take for you to make friends here? I started a simblr because I really like storytelling with my sims & I thought it'd be fun to meet people who enjoy that, too, especially since I don't have many friends irl...but I've been here for quite a few months now and it seems like no one even cares that I'm here....everyone I try to interact with pretty much ignores me after a message or two....I'm just feeling really discouraged about my presence here :/
Iā€™M REALLY SORRY I DIDNā€™T ANSWER THIS SOONER ASKJDKJFSDKA (iā€™m sure it didnā€™t help the fact that you feel ignored, i really really hope you see this) but okay uhhhhhhh i only had acquaintances from 2015 up until like this year? then i started really becoming close with people. so it took a while lol, but i think everyone starts off slow because itā€™s mostly about the actual game weā€™re playing at first and then making friends just happens through that. donā€™t get discouraged, like i said it took a while for me. you really just need to reach out to the people youā€™d like to become friends with, reply to their posts, give your genuine thoughts, say something thatā€™ll make their day...people notice that no matter what they have going on, i promise. i hope youā€™re still here and hanging in there. donā€™t get caught up in whoā€™s talking to you or not talking to you, just do your thing, enjoy what you do, and people will notice you. <3
3. Hi so I just wanted to say that I love your story, I'm here for every update. I'm an s3 player I play s4 every once in awhile but s3 has my soul. I love Santi and I know he will be happy in the end, whether it's with Lou or not(hopefully it is tho) I only want him to be happy. I go through so many emotions in one post, like this is a tv drama and I canā€™t wait for the next episode. This is the end of my cut and paste. Have a nice day.ā¤ļø
HI HELLO <3 this is so sweet and i canā€™t believe you actually care about my story lmao thank you iā€™m glad you have faith in his happy ending, i donā€™t want anyone to think i genuinely like making my characters suffer lmao. i only do it to make the happy ending more satisfying. asjdfjksd comparing my stuff to film or tv always makes me so giddy so THANK YOU ily <333
"Suicide before you see this tear fall down my eyes" (Beyonce) reminds me of Molly's situation soooo muchhhh aaaahhhhh
OMG YES what a good connection. good song good connection yaeeahhh better call molly with the good hair
Ummmm... hello! I just read through your whole story with Santi and I'm like... holy fuck. Not only is your story wonderful, your editing is so good. I'm surprised I didn't shove my eyes up against my computer screen. Please continue making wonderful things and being great. Signing off 12:31 in the morning, I hope you have as much fun as you want to
ā€œas much fun as you want toā€ omfgasdkngjd why did that make me laugh so much. donā€™t have too much fun, have the responsible amount of fun anyway HELLO thank you soooooO much ;-; pls donā€™t shove ur eyes up against the screen iā€™m almost positive thatā€™s not good for them. but i appreciate this so much thank YOU for being great <3 signing off at 2:18 in the morning after ignoring this message for months now (iā€™m sorryyyyyyy) but um ily
HELLO??? I JUST READ A SERIOUS CASE OF NOVEMBER FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I'M LIKE CRYING???? y u do dis to me I hate you and love you at the same time
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(I need to rant I'm sorry) My uncle is really positive towards the army and war and stuff like that and all day he's been going on about how it should be mandatory to serve in the military, especially for "little brat girls" like me? And it's stressing me out so much I want to cry :( The army and war is something that genuinely scares me and I don't want anything to do with it, but he's just going on and on! What should I do?
this is literally sooooooooo late and i feel so bad iā€™m sorry, i hope this still helps you out and i hope you see it tho okay. iā€™m pretty sure this was even before the trans military ban like whew idek what your uncle must think about that. tbh just ignore him, like i know itā€™s hurtful but like...what is his point in telling you this? i wouldā€™ve literally been like (sarcastically) ā€œok then sign me upā€ but iā€™m also a lil shit so thatā€™s probably not the best thing to say. but really like the only thing heā€™s trying to do is feel powerful by means of expressing his militaristic (no pun intended) opinions to someone far younger than him. itā€™s so that he feels bigger and better than you (especially by calling you a brat). heā€™s a sad man and anyone who relies on the military, of all things, to shape a person probably doesnā€™t have a strong sense of self anyway. i love you okay, just ignore him, donā€™t let him stress you out <3
I'm a little high and it's late but I have a lot of courage now so I've been following you for a while and I just want to tell you how much I love your story! I have come across other places on tumblr who do this but none have captured me as this one did! You are amazing and I am in love with this story! Thanks fo being you! :)
ONMG YOU HAD TO BE HIGH TO SEND THIS LMAO that was me this weekend anyway thank you so much, it floors me every time anyone says these kinds of things to me and it never gets old ;-; you are so amazing ok <333
you can't possibly be offended by a homophobic joke in game of thrones, it's set in medieval times. they had several lgbt characters in it, it's not the show that's homophobic, it's the characters, which is accurate for that time period.
o i can and i will lmao i mean i get where youā€™re coming from but with that logic you could say itā€™s only accurate to put homophobic jokes in todayā€™s media just because people are still homophobic in the time live in. i know itā€™s the characters, but you do understand that someone writes those characters, right? itā€™s bad writing. itā€™s lazy and pandering and because of that itā€™s offensive. idk if you know the exact dialogue i was referring to but it was so completely unnecessary lmfao. they couldā€™ve made a million other jokes. regardless of how it offended me it was just BAD lmao
SPOILER BELOW OK DONā€™T SAY I DIDNā€™T WARN YA
@ I wanna watch GoT anon: don't. It's just so fucking bad. The definition of overhyped tbh (and btw, sunny, PLS HELP HE SCREWED HIS FUCKING AUNT WTH)
LMAO SOMEONE ACTUALLY AGREES WITH ME? wow bless u. it is definitely overhyped, like it was good at first but itā€™s been riding that hype through these past couple of seasons to disguise the bad writing. i understand being entertained by it, but iā€™m always surprised when people think itā€™s actually well written at this point...itā€™s so cringey and now thanks to the season finale this fanbase will be justifying incest. great!
OK MOVE ALONG NOW
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cooljazsheepie Ā· 8 years ago
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Webcomic Creator Interview with Kosmic of Feast for a King
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Hi, all! I usually donā€™t post my webcomic creator interviews on this account, but this one is special since the comic is explicitly NSFW. The creator, Kosmic, is super awesome though and deserved an interview anyway. Check it after the cut.
Me: Please introduce yourself.
Kosmic: My name is Kosmic and I make two comics currently, Feast for a King and Eggshells. Although I mostly focus on Feast for a King! Which is a really graphically violent/sexual story about man eating worms in a sci-fi setting. I started it in September 2014 and Iā€™ve basically been working every day on it since then.
Me: What made you pick sci-fi?
Kosmic: Iā€™ve always really loved sci-fi stuff!! Many of my favorite stories/movies are sci-fi or have some robot/alien elements to them. I think itā€™d be more accurate to say that sci-fi picked me because FFAK was inspired by a dream I had which had some very strong sci-fi elements and visuals. I think at the time when I started FFAK, I was also feeling really inspired by the first two Terminator movies and wanted to like, take the elements about that i found successful in those movies and include them in my own story! I liked how much the characters struggled and how hopeless it felt to face their enemies, but they kept going anyway despite being so afraid. I also had a bunch of stories/characters I worked on sometimes that was really just my own version of Trigun that I didnā€™t know what to do with and just...felt like building on more of that type of world. I think I first started those characters in like 2009 but they were basically just back-burner ideas for something eventually. I got a lot of story material like that!!
Me: Do you have a favorite part of the creative process when you're working on your comic?
Kosmic: Favorite part of he process...That is kinda difficult. There are so many parts that I enjoy that blend in with each other, itā€™s hard to determine when one step begins and the other ends. Brainstorming with music is always really nice, especially if itā€™s in the afternoon and I donā€™t have any responsibilities to worry about. I do a lot of self RP too. I can go anywhere in the story I feel like and just let my mind explore freely!! Its always very fun/exciting to discover things I didnā€™t expect or when some connection suddenly clicks that opens up new doors of ideas! SO.. daydreaming is my favorite part, I suppose. That feels kinda basic to say, but I canā€™t think of anything that tops it!
Me: Nooo. I totally get what you mean. Just letting ideas come to you is the best! You do color and black&white comics. Do you prefer one over the other?
Kosmic: I donā€™t really like the look of colored comics for the most part, honestly. I find it way too mentally distracting and I find it often takes me out of the story by making me too aware Iā€™m reading something. So, I generally prefer the look of B&W comics when Iā€™m the one reading. However! I personally find it boring to do for too long if Iā€™m the one working!! I hate doing the same stuff for too long and black/white communicates a certain type of atmosphere to me, so after a while it can feel kinda stiff or limited when I donā€™t...really need to be?? I used to be determined to only use B/W ONLY EVER!!! and now I am allowing myself the freedom to experiment using some aspects of color to communicate my ideas and not worry about a consistent look too much lol. I sort of feel like my comics fall somewhere in the middle because they obviously DO use color but arenā€™t like Ā the ā€˜typicalā€™ full color comic, I guess? I dunno. Thatā€™s how i interpret it anyway. I am breaking my own rules of what looks good!!! If I had to make a decision, it would still B&W over color. :3
Me: Do the colors you pick have a certain significance for the characters? Like I know you have several named after them and the worms are colored by status. Ā 
Kosmic: Yes! Totally. They are super important! I have a whole color lore or color language I have built in the story. I dont really focus on like...every color in the rainbow though. Its mostly with basic default-y colors of Red/Yellow/Blue + Green. Red and Green being the most important ones I use in FFAK. I reflect a lot on their dynamic and parallel in several different ways with various designs and narratives, Crimson and Celadonā€™s relationship is also meant to be a direct translation of that conflict and bond I see with those two colors in the context of the story as well. Red and Green is like the ...PURE EXPRESSION OF LIFE AND DEATH!!! or something.
Me: For your worms, do you choose certain animals for them or you just go by whatever? Like how Paper is a bunny.
Kosmic: Nah, I mostly go by whatever and many worm designs are just improvised on the spot as these weird...animal chimera things. Paper is sort of an odd one out because sheā€™s specifically very bunny-themed.
Me: Do you have a favorite character?
Kosmic: Crimsonā€™s my absolute favorite character!! However... Knife is also very important. I guess heā€™s a close 2nd. I just have put a staggering amount of work/history into both characters they both kinda stand out a little bit from the rest lol.
Me: I know you said to just read whatever, but how does the use of gender shape your comic? As a creator.
Kosmic: Ā I suppose it shapes a lot and yet it...doesnā€™t? IDK, itā€™s difficult to explain cause I think gender is a broad topic and Iā€™m not sure what parts to focus on with it shaping? Haha. Most of my characters are just self-inserts really. Itā€™s not really a conscious thing that I feel like I need to fit a quota of or something. I just sort of naturally feel the need to articulate feelings about my experiences using the characters sometimes. I also generally use my comic as a safe place to explore my thoughts about identity and sexuality. It makes the comic really personal/vulnerable/stressful sometimes, but I also feel like I understand myself a little easier. As much as I reflect on it I don't really have a concise answer or reason.. itā€™s just part of life! So there it is!
Me: Do you find that you attract or put off readers with the sex? Like do people expect a hentai situation? Or ignore the warning and get mad about it?
Kosmic: Yeah, it definitely rocks the boat a bit. I get a lot of polarized reactions from my sexual content. Mostly itā€™s supported and people understand and respect what I do with it, but I have definitely received negative comments or like, people feeling betrayed it was included at all. (Nothing upset people more than that period sex scene in chapter 11 for example .) Itā€™s also often described as a vore fetish comic which I also...have mixed feelings with LMFAO. It just feels really misleading and simplifying the narrative. I think the fact that I include genitals in my drawings [means] people get the impression itā€™s supposed to be a smutty hentai comic, but then when they read it isnā€™t that either. So itā€™s hard for people to determine what it is. It pushes buttons, I guess. good and bad.
Me: Who is your intended audience or do you not have one?
Kosmic: I donā€™t really have an intended audience!!! I just draw it as much for me as possible. :D
Me: Ā What made you decide on making a webcomic?
Kosmic: Ā Iā€™ve been determined to make comics since i was like...13 or 14? And webcomics are very freeing!! You just post it and go!! Nothing can stop you from making your story how you want and I love that.
Me: Do you have any advice for other creators?
Kosmic: Advice is tough... But I suppose it is important to establish your boundaries between yourself and the audience. Your enjoyment and relationship you have with yourself and your art is what is most important. So be careful not to burn yourself out on what people will think/say/ask and itā€™s OK to feel overwhelmed and over-stimulated sometimes. Even when itā€™s positive attention, it can still be just as stressful and draining. I find thatā€™s the hardest part about making a comic is learning how to deal with the reception rather than making the comic itself lmao. So yeah! Draw and write what you want! Always. But also give yourself a private place only for you, so you can reflect on your journey. :3
Me: That's great advice. Do you plan on making a print version?
Kosmic: My friend Cameron made Chapter 1 into a book and mailed it to me as a surprise. But besides that, I have no actual plans or real desire to make a printed version.It seems like it would take a lot of work to do and Iā€™m very lazy. Maybe some sort of art book would be more ideal, but who knows!
Me: Ā Will you be attending any cons or making any merch?
Kosmic: I went to one con in 2015! I sold like...a single poster I think. It was fun (especially because a friend from Canada was staying and helped tremendously with it,I also got interviewed the first time there!) but not exactly the ideal experience. Another friend also made keychains for me of the characters that we sold online. But, besides that, I donā€™t have any cons planned. I want to make t-shirts in the future, but Iā€™m so slow to do these things. Ā I just really need to take the plunge, but I generally get intimidated by money making stuff!!
Me: Do you do art full time?
Kosmic: Yes LOL. FFAK is basically my life. I do educational/instructional flash animations as well for the monies, but I am pretty broke most of the time. If it weren't for Patreon, IDK what Iā€™d do!! I am so thankful for it.
And thatā€™s it. I already linked Kosmicā€™s Tumblr profile, but you can also follow them on Twitter for personal or comic updates! If you have any comments or questions, feel free to post here or submit an ask. If you would like to be interviewed for your own comic, contact me here for explicitly NSFW content or over on my literacy blog if your work doesnā€™t have content restrictions that make it NSFW. Please also feel free to suggest artists for me to interview.
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sage-nebula Ā· 8 years ago
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Zelink for every game you've played :D
That is so many games ā€¦ but CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
Legend of Zelda (1):
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
I mean, I guess? Haha, there was really nothing here. Since this was the very first game, character development basically didnā€™t exist, so like ā€¦ I really donā€™t have an opinion one way or the other. People can do what they want, and Iā€™m not against it, but I personally just donā€™t see anything there worth really talking about or shipping, haha.
Adventure of Link:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
Same deal as above. My memories of AoL are really hazy, but iirc this is the game where Zelda is asleep for the vast majority of it, but also where we see an implied kiss at the end, which ā€¦ honestly feels a lot likeĀ ā€œhere, you are rewarded with a gfā€ to me, which is why IĀ ā€œnononoā€ that. Iā€™m mostly neutral, but also kind of reallyĀ ā€œmehā€ on it as well.
A Link to the Past / Linkā€™s Awakening / Oracle of Ages/Seasons:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
Iā€™m kind of neutral on shipping Zelda with the Hero of Worlds, because while I think there could be potential there, they spend virtually no time together and, in the Oracle games, the fact that they barely know each other shows. The fact that Link could mistake Marin, who has deep red hair, for Zelda (who is blonde) seems to further cement this to me. Yes, he was half out of it due to the fact that he had just woken up after being knocked unconscious during that storm at sea, but the fact remains that hair color is one of the most immediately obvious markers of a personā€™s appearance and he still made that mistake. This is no doubt due to the fact that he and Zelda have spent barely any time together, I feel. Additionally, Link did spend quite a lot of time with Marin, and the two of them even went on a date. While Iā€™m not at all opposed to multi-shipping and while itā€™s clear that he and Marin cannot be endgame (I mean she might have become a seagull ffs), Iā€™d much prefer to ship him with Marin before Zelda, hands down.
Ocarina of Time / Majoraā€™s Mask:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
Again, this is a case where Link and Zelda didnā€™t really spend a lot of time together ā€¦ and the majority of the time they did spend together was spent under deceit with Zelda pretending to be Sheik. I understand why she couldnā€™t tell him who she was (and I think that Link would understand, too) but that doesnā€™t change the fact that a good chunk of their relationship was spent with Zelda pretending to be someone else. And before anyone says anything, no, gender is not an issue here, especially since I am fully on-board with the headcanon of OoT!Zelda being genderfluid. The issue here is that Zelda pretended to be a completely different person entirely. Even if she had pretended to be a female different person, the same issue would exist. I think that, regardless of the necessity of the lie, Link would still have some trust issues, both in the sense ofĀ ā€œif she lied to me about that, she could lie about other things,ā€ andĀ ā€œdonā€™t you trust me enough to tell me?ā€ Then again, the second she dropped the disguise Ganondorf got her, so. :/
Thereā€™s also the issue of how she sends him back to his childhood at the end of the game. Link doesnā€™t speak, so we donā€™t know exactly how he felt about that decision she made, but she also doesnā€™t ask him if thatā€™s what he wants, she decides thatā€™s what he wants. And true, he does hand the Ocarina of Time over when she tells him to, but ā€¦ thatā€™s just it. She tells him to. The exact line is,Ā ā€œLink, give the ocarina to me. As a Sage, I can use it to return you to your original time.ā€ Now, Linkā€™s feelings on this are completely open to interpretation. It depends on how you characterize him and how you interpret his body language. But I just rewatched the scene (in both the original N64 graphics and the 3DS remaster), and it looks to me like he has a bit of hesitancy thereā€”like he doesnā€™t necessarily want to, but technically the Ocarina of Time does belong to the royal family and, anyway, itā€™s a directive from the Princess of Hyrule. Can he really say no? Like, I guess he could refuse, but ā€¦ mmmhh. He seems conflicted. But regardless of how he does or doesnā€™t seem conflicted, I do still think the fact that Zelda doesnā€™t ask him if this is what he wants is an issue. She decides that itā€™s what best. And whether the Triforce of Wisdom gives her insight that makes her right or not (and considering the timeline split, I think thatā€™s debatableā€”I think that it would have been better to leave time business to the one whoā€™s the Hero of it), I still donā€™t think the fact that Zelda thinks she can make huge life decisions for Link makes for an entirely healthy relationship right off the bat. I think theyā€™d need to work on it.
That said, I do ship this in the context of Rose Zemlyaā€™s fics (The Return and Reconciliation and all the one-shots and drabbles in-between), because in her fics they do work on it. They actually get to talk (and, well, fight) about Zeldaā€™s tendency to deceive and lie because she feels itā€™s whatā€™s best, as well as her removal of Linkā€™s autonomy in the decision at the end of OoT. Additionally, I enjoy the way she characterizes both of them and think it works well. But outside of those fics, Iā€™m neutral on it (kind ofĀ ā€œehhā€), and in the end would probably rather ship Link with others (such as, for instance, Malon). I also think that, personality-wise, Zelda and Ruto could work well, though the fact that Ruto is a Zora gives me pause, as you know. XD
The Wind Waker / Phantom Hourglass:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
I looooove Link and Tetra! While I do take issue with the way Tetra was damseled multiple times so that Link could rescue her (though this is typical of Zelda games), and while I also take issue with how Tetra is mysteriously and disgustingly whitewashed the second she is revealed to be Zelda (though that has nothing to do with the ship), altogether I think that Link/Tetra is a wonderful ship, and this was the first time that I undoubtedly shipped a Link/Zelda pair.Ā 
To begin with, one of the things that I really like about the Hero of Winds and Tetra is that they are both hotheaded and both levelheaded at different times. Link is provoked by Aryllā€™s capture and Ganondorfā€™s taunting; he chases after his sister and loses his temper and attack Ganondorf, both actions of which were poorly thought-out and result in him needing rescuing, by Tetra. However, Tetra likewise loses her temper when her crew is threatened, when she is captured, and acts recklessly to save Link from Ganondorf (which results in both of them needing to be rescued by the Rito lmfao). Sheā€™s not immune from thinking irrationally or impulsively, and I actually think that she would be more prone to losing her temper / getting annoyed in casual situations, whereas Link would be calmer and more level-headed. In this sense, I think they balance each other out really well.
Of course, both Link and Tetra are about twelve-years-old, so they have a lot of growing up to do! I donā€™t think either of them are in a romantic mindset by the time the game ends. However, they do go sailing off to find aĀ ā€œnew Hyruleā€ together, and we know thanks to Spirit Tracks that they succeed (doesnā€™t mean they start the new royal family, of courseā€”just means that they find new land together). I think that thereā€™s plenty of potential there for when they grow up, and I also think that Aryll would be 100% on-board. (A shipper on deck, if you will. ;D)
Twilight Princess:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
I have nothing against it, but I also donā€™t ship it, tbh. I sayĀ ā€œmaybeā€ because they could always get to know each other post-game, could grow to care for each other, could grow to have feelings for each otherā€”but thatā€™s all hypothetical. They donā€™t bond at all over the course of the game (Zelda is barely in it, tbh), and I donā€™t really see potential there for them in canon. Thereā€™s no real interest, Zelda is barely a presence in the story. So Iā€™m not against it, but I donā€™t really ship it, either. Thereā€™s not enough for me to.
Spirit Tracks:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
I only played Spirit Tracks once and I honestly donā€™t remember it very well, so Iā€™m afraid I canā€™t give an indepth analysis on this one. However, I do remember really loving their interactions throughout the game, and thatā€™s keyā€”this Link and Zelda have plenty of time to get to know each other and interact, and it shows. I think that they were really cute and that, while (once again) theyā€™re young, thereā€™s a high probability that they could develop feelings for each other in the future.
Skyward Sword:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
This probably would have been aĀ ā€œMY HEART,ā€ but then BotW showed me whatĀ ā€œMY HEARTā€ really means. More on that in a second, though. ;)
I really, really like what SS did with Link and Zelda. Theyā€™re childhood friends, and that shows; itā€™s clear that they care for each other a great deal, that Zelda is protective of him when it comes to the bullying he receives from Groose and the others, but that heā€™s just as protective of her when it comes to any threats. Thereā€™s an element of playfulness in their relationship, in that she teases him for being a sleepyhead, sheā€™s not afraid to play around with him, she knows heā€™ll take it well. Theyā€™re honestly very sweet with each other, and I swear the scene where he takes her hand and drops into a kneel before her squeezes my heart every single time. (As does the scene where she seals herself away, tells him that heā€™ll have to wake her up this time, and he cries as he leans against the crystal, damn.) I will say that it does bum me out a bit that Zelda is damseled (sealing herself was an action she undertook as part of her own plan, so Iā€™m not talking about thatā€”Iā€™m talking about when Ghirahim kidnaps her to resurrect Demise), but again, thatā€™s par for the course with Zelda games, so I can forgive it.
I do think that this is the game theyā€™re the most canon in, though. We know that this Zelda is the one who went on to form the Hyrulean royal family (and that all other Zeldas are descended from her), and I mean, their song when flying on the loftwing in the beginning is calledĀ ā€œRomance.ā€ I think we know who her king was, js.
Breath of the Wild:
ship: ew / nonono / maybe / ship it / aww / otp / MY HEART
THE BEST ZELINK TO DATE, ALL OTHER ZELINKS CAN TAKE A SEAT PLEASE.Ā 
The best part of this Zelda/Link pair is that it is undoubtedly a slow burn. They knew each other for quite a long time even prior to Linkā€™s near death. In Zeldaā€™s diary, she notes thatĀ ā€œheā€ has been selected to be her personal guard, with the emphasis hers. This implies that she knew him beforehand, no doubt because he was already training to be a knight, as his father had been before him. (Often times knights were nobility, so itā€™s incredibly possible that she even knew him from noble court prior to his entering in to be a knight.) Despite knowing each other beforehand, however, they werenā€™t friends. We know that Zeldaā€™s dislike of Link wasnā€™t really personalā€”it was wrapped up in a lot of her own issues and insecurities, and how she projected her feelings onto himā€”but all the same, the fact remains that although they knew each other and had a history, they werenā€™t close. This means that we see them grow closer over time.
While I am admittedly ratherĀ ā€œehhhā€ at the way her feelings shift is carried out at first, that we see her reconsider in aĀ ā€œrescue romanceā€ type of light when he saves her from the Yiga assassins, I do appreciate that despite the framing of the memory it wasnā€™t really shown to make her fall instantly in love with him. Rather, it opened her eyes to the fact that she should get to know him better, that he doesnā€™t hate her, that she should make an attempt to talk with him. And she does, and they do. They grow closer, get to know each other, become friends first after such a rocky start and then let feelings develop. And what I really, really love is that Zelda never loses her complexity through any of this. Even when it comes to the moment when her powers awaken, although we do know for canonical fact that it was her love for Link that allowed her powers to awaken, I also feel like Zelda throwing herself in-between him and the Guardian Stalker wasnā€™t just because she loved him, but was also because she couldnā€™t bear for one more personā€”much less the last person she had leftā€”to die because of or for her. Like, yes, love was there, but so was survivorā€™s guilt. Zelda loving Link did not reduce her to a love interest. And, despite the fact that youā€™re told to go save her for the duration of the entire game, Zelda is not damseled. She is not a prisoner. Ganon is her prisoner and sheā€™s waiting for Link to come pick up the slack. They are, inarguably, equals, and that is such a nice and refreshing change.Ā 
They still have so much to do, so much to catch up on. Zelda especially needs to get reacquainted with the world now that she can finally walk through it again. And, as we see in the Golden Ending, they have work that must be done and they are putting that on priority. However, they have time. They now have so much time to rekindle their friendship, grow closer, build a life together, and weā€™ve seen the foundation on which that can be built. This is by far the best rendition of the Link and Zelda relationship yet and Iā€™m so glad it exists. A+++++, well done, Nintendo.
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an9el Ā· 7 years ago
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do all the valentineā€™s day asks (!!!!!)
1: Do you have a crush at the moment?Ā 
Did yaā€™ll know that the actual definition for having a crush is:Ā ā€˜a brief but intense infatuation for someone, especially someone unattainable or inappropriate.ā€™ With that definition I do not. I donā€™t get crushes on people often, but tbh whenever I meet someone new I often consider what it would be like if I did date them. What it would be like to talk to them, hold them, support them, love them. Iā€™m just always dreaminā€™ of havin a healthy and committed relationship with someone because I just love lovinā€™ people and gettin loved back.Ā 
2: Have you ever been deeply in love?
Listen baby, Iā€™m a pieces moon. Any emotion I feel Iā€™m feelin it to the most extreme at all times. Which is why Iā€™m glad anger is not an emotion I can capture well. But to answer the question yes it was with someone who used to mean a great deal to me. I was so in love with them that it became toxic for myself and them. I was willing to do anything for them, at whatever cost. Itā€™s the loyalty of my Leo sun ill say.Ā  But now Iā€™m deeply in love with myself, all my current relationships with the people around me, and the sun.Ā 
3: Longest relationship youā€™ve ever been in?
The one Iā€™m currently in now is gonna hit 2 months soon and I think that is the longest I have been with someone in an romantic relationship. All my other ones weā€™re fast, unhealthy, and honestly I was only in them because I felt it was my only chance at someone loving me. But the one Iā€™m in now is vvv good and Iā€™m vv happy with it. Other relationship wise, @greenteajuice is someone I care for very deeply as she has been in my life the longest platonically and has always supported me. Iā€™ve known @teasquid since kindergarden tho! but we just recently became friends a couple years back, and im thankful to have them with me.Ā 
4: Have you ever changed for someone?
Yeah! I used to change what I liked and didnā€™t like based off of the people who I surrounded myself with in order to get them to like me. I used to agree with what they wanted or said! and that isĀ  why I have a little trouble making my own opinions or assertions on stuff because Iā€™m so used to just going along with whatever my friends or partners say! But no more! I am living for me and only me now. But change isnā€™t all bad! someone can show you the good in something you hate, and the bad in something you loved. its life.Ā 5: How is your relationship with your ex?
My ex was a really nice fellow, she was very funny and kind and caring. But I think she rushed into a relationship with me mainly based on my physical appearances and I went along with it because I was bad with rejecting someone so kind, and again, I was just in it to be in it honestly. It was the first relationship I had with dealings of polyamory and I considered myself a mono person before hand. I like to think me and her other partner were held on the same levels but, in reality we were not. She was very much in love with them, more than she was with me. But not without reason, she just had more of a connection and history with them. Also me and her partner didnā€™t talk at all, which didnā€™t help either. I often felt, not actually apart of the loop, i like connecting with people, especially if its someone who is dear to my s/oā€™s, so it hurt that we didā€™t really communicate often. BUT my ex is still someone who is in my life and i care for her as a friend and nothing more. Iā€™m happy with where we are now. and I learned a lot from being with her. I actually forget we dated lol.Ā 
6: Have you ever been cheated on?
No! But that would surely break my heart I know.Ā 7: Have you ever cheated?
Nope! I would rather like, literally die, than betray someones trust like that.Ā 8: Would you date someone whoā€™s well known for cheating?
Depends! Iā€™d have to get to know them and build up a level of trust and such.Ā 
9: Whatā€™s the most important part of a relationship?
COMMUNICATION! TALK TO ME! U HAVIN PROBLEMS! LET ME KNOW! U WANT SOMETHING THAT IM NOT GIVING YOU! TELL ME AND WE CAN WORK ON IT! TELL ME THAT YOU LOVE AND CARE ABOUT ME! GIVE ME REASSURANCE! just fuckin communicate about any and all things I promise that will lead to such a healthy and strong relationship!Ā 10: Do you like to be in serious relationships or just flings?
I mentally cannot handle flings or short term relationships. It really fucks me up emotionally and makes me wanna d*e!!! I just get really involved and wanna spend my life with that person 4eva and shit so when theyā€™re not with that or dont want it im like!! whats the point theN! also i low low key have abandonment issues so yeah ahha.Ā 11: When you are dating someone do you believe in going on ā€œbreaksā€?
Breaks! I mean yeah sometimes you need to get away from a person ! WHICH is why you should not spend 24/7 with ur partner, that much time with anyone would drive someone mad! no matter how much u love them. but meaning like, semi-breaking up? i mean if your realtionship has gotten to that point, iā€™d rather just talk about whats causing it to get like this, and work it out. butĀ  a breather is never bad i suppose.Ā 12: How many people have you ever hooked up with?
One and it made me feel real bad. I only will ever be involved in sexual conduct with someone if I trust them enough to be that vulnerable and if I find them sexually attractive, which isnā€™t common since my grey ass only gets a boner for commitment and compliments.Ā 13: Whatā€™s one thing you regret saying/doing in a previous relationship?
I regret going into the relationships for the wrong reasons.Ā 14: What age do you think is appropriate for kids to start having sex?
If youā€™re still considered aĀ ā€˜kidā€™ I think you should hold off, but itā€™s impossible to stop them from doing what they want, and as so, we should educate them so when they do do it, they are being safe.Ā 15: Do you believe in the phrase ā€œage is just a numberā€?
In what context? As in Iā€™m 76 but I can still wear pink pencil shirts, a crop top, boa scarf and 6 inches heels causeĀ ā€œage is just a numberā€ orĀ ā€œif sheā€™s 16 than im 16ā€³ cause the later is gross but the former i rock withĀ 
16: Do you believe in ā€œlove at first sightā€?
I believe in infatuation at first sight. The idea of someone that you have created in your mind at first physical glance.Ā 17: Do you believe itā€™s possible to fall in love on the internet?
Yeah of course what. the internet is just other tool that we use to connect and make bonds with people we normally couldnā€™t have done otherwiseĀ Ā 
18: What do you consider a deal breaker?
UM! probably if they exhibited signs of being aĀ manipulative and/or abusive person yeah19: How do you know itā€™s time to end a relationship?
UH honestly I have no idea, im a ride or die type person as long as ur arenā€™t a complete shit bag! im willing to work on anything and talk through any issues as long as you are. but i suppose if we both understand that the relationship just isnā€™t working anymore and the connection just is and never will be there!Ā 
20: Are you currently in a relationship?
yeah ! I am ! with my self, my friends, and my sweet sweet angel of a bf sam!Ā 21: Do you think people who have dated can stay friends?,Ā 
Yeah of course! As long as its healthy I would encourage it!Ā 22: Do you think people should date their friends?
YEAHHHHHH! thats some good shit!Ā 23: How many relationships have you had?
UM including the one im in now i think 3Ā 24: Do you think love can last forever?
Depends on how strong and committed the love is, it would be hard to get to that stage of forever but nothing is impossible!Ā 25: Do you believe love can conquer all things?
Not institutionalized racism if that is what you mean26: Would you break up with someone your parents didnā€™t approve of?
Nah man my parents suck, if anything they should break up w/ someone if I donā€™t approve of them lmfao would probably fix a lot of things.Ā 27: If you could go back in time and give yourself one piece of advice about dating what would it be?
Love yourself before you begin to love someone else. Itā€™ll help.Ā 
28: Do you think long distance relationships can work?
Yes! you just need to be willing to put in the time, effort,trust, energy, and commitment that comes with it29: What do you notice first about another person?
TBH this is such a leo thing but the clothes their wearing, and then their face!Ā 
30: Are you straight, bi, gay or pansexual?
the only 4 sexualities yes. im queer and thats all iā€™ll say. i hate anything else tbh. if you like me im gay and if i like you im gay. thats it.Ā 31: Would it bother you if your partner suffered from any mental illness?
nah man thats some wack shit right there if i did32: Have you ever been in an abusive relationship?
nope! been in some unhealthy ones tho!Ā 33: Do you want to get married one day?
possibly. for tax benefits mainly. also if me and my partner mutually agreed to wanting that yeah.34: What do you think about getting your partnerā€™s name tattooed?
nah thats wild broĀ 35: Could you be in a relationship without sex?
baby, baby, i could live my whole life without sex. that shit doesnā€™t mean a lot to me personally. But if my partner was a someone who liked sex I would def be down36: Are you still a virgin?
nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. i mean, kinda, idk how that works.Ā 37: Whatā€™s more important: Looks or personality?
personality easy.38: Do you enjoy love films?
as long as they arenā€™t yt cis het ones yeAH!!Ā 39: Have you ever given anyone/received roses?
my grandfather has given me some! and Thao gave me some on my birthday! but i dont like getting flowers ! they just die and its so sad!Ā 40: Have you ever had a valentine?
nope! but thats okay because I am loved and cherised by my friends every single day! and thats better!Ā 41: Whatā€™s your imagination of a ā€œperfect dateā€?
just spending time with the person I love in any setting is nice.Ā 
42: Have you ever read ā€œRomeo & Julietā€?
yeah, I played one of the main charters when reading it freshman year in English.Ā 
43: Whatā€™s more important: Your partner or your friends?
both?? equally?? no gross hierarchy??Ā 
44: Would you consider yourself ā€œromanticā€?
YEAH MAN YEAH MAN I love romance i love sappy shit i love doin gay stuff yes yes!!!Ā 
45: Could you imagine to date one of your current friends?
OFC! Iā€™d date any one of my friends cause their all cute and gay and greatĀ 46: Have you ever been ā€œfriendzonedā€?
that, like gender, is not realĀ 47: Which ā€œfamous coupleā€ is your favorite?
Ian and Jaden!Ā 48: Whatā€™s your favorite love song?
L-O-V-E by Nat King Cole49: Have you ever broken someoneā€™s heart?
I do not think so?50: If youā€™re single, why do you think you are?
Iā€™m not! but if i was hopefully its just because I understood that being in a relationship isnā€™t everything and it will come when it needs too
51: Would you rather date someone whoā€™s rich but a douchebag or someone whoā€™s poor but a nice guy?Ā 
I do not like this question
52: Are you good at giving other people adviceā€™s regarding dating/ relationships?
I donā€™t like giving advice for other peoples relationships because its not mine to get involved with ! but if someone came for me asking i would try my best!53: Are you jealous of couples when youā€™re single?
no??? thats so toxic ew54: How important is it to make a relationship official (p.e. on facebook)?
i mean? if your partner is afraid of saying that they are with u to other people thats some issues but its cool if yall both wanna just like keep it to yourselves if thats ur jazz ya dig! But I love being shown off and appreciated! Really gets my dick hard
55:Would you consider yourself ā€œclingyā€, ā€œoverly attachedā€ or ā€œjealousā€?
im like a little overly attached but not in a toxic way, i just care a lot alot alot! but i know how to handle it and not let it get unhealthy!Ā 56: Have you ever ā€œdestroyedā€ a relationship?
i do not think so :0!Ā 57: Do you think itā€™s silly to consider suicide because of a broken heart?
Donā€™t become so emotionally dependant on someone that without them, you think youā€™re life isnā€™t worth living anymore. thats like, super unhealthy for you and them. but people have died from aĀ ā€˜broken heartā€™ before because their partner died, or was lost, etc. thats valid! but donā€™t take ur own life because of someone else!Ā 
58: Are you the ā€œdominantā€ or the ā€œsubmissiveā€ part in a relationship?
this what yall really want huh, you want me to say if im a top or bottom! iā€™ll have you know that I can equally enjoy both parts! mainly a sub though iā€™ll admit. im a ba-by ok.Ā 59: Have you ever forgotten important dates like your partnerā€™s birthday or your anniversary?
no, i write them in my calendar so ill remember! because my memory is awful!!Ā 60: Whatā€™s your opinion on open relationships?
if it works for yaā€™ll then it works. be happy. thats all.Ā 61: Whoā€™s more important: Your partner or your family?
why,,, why is this a question!! love both?!! this is silly lmfao62: How do you define ā€œcheatingā€?
engaging in any form of like romantic or sexual manner with another person w/o the consent or knowledge of your partner.Ā 63: Is watching porn while being in a relationship inappropriate?
nah??? treat yourself. make yourself feel good baby, no body knows how to pleasure yourself better than youĀ 64: Do you think Valentineā€™s Day is overrated?
its capitalistic is what it is65: Would you consider yourself a ā€œcuddlerā€?
Big time. Ask sam, IĀ  wrap my body so tightly around that boy when we sleep together.Ā 
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