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WWWY predictions!
Were now only a few days away from WWWY! I'm particularly excited to see what their setlist will be, as its both a throwback to their early days of music, and they only have a 40 min setlist.
If yall have any ideas of what may be on the setlist, or have any hopes, either send in them or comment!
im hoping to see alot of sfgf, and maybe some self titled, hopefully some b sides, and I'm expecting a few off Youngblood.
Heres my hopes!
From Self Titled - SLSP, Good Girls, End Up Here, Voodoo Doll,
From SGFG - Waste The Night, Vapor, Shes Kinda Hot, Perminate Vacation
From Youngblood - Youngblood, Talk Fast, IWCT, WWYLM, MYT, Babylon
From B sides - The Only Reason, What I Like About You, Disconnected, Out Of My Limit, Independance Day, American Idiot
#5 seconds of summer#5sos#5 sos#5sosconfessionals#when we were young fest#When we were young#pop punk#fae#I wish I was going but im broke and in college#i also live on the other side of the us#flights and tickets are expensive
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loveybug and catwalker from @blur0se @pisoprano and @asukiess beautiful minds
#had to draw loveybug. had to see her.#okay I can continue on with my day now#ml#miraculous ladybug#catwalker#loveybug#my art#idk where her yoyo is let's pretend it's on the other side#also I stared at catwalker for so long wondering why he felt wrong before I realized I forgot his ears#I used to constantly forget chat's ears. unsure why#anyway autumn's ficlet lives in me now#loveybug au
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no ai generated content will ever compare to the absolutely cartoonishly evil plot to cut down trees to prevent workers from striking to get livable wage.
#tree law#sag strike#wga strike#also also it can be hard to admit but the US does set some industry standards so although im on the other side of the world its concerning!!#if bigwigs at US companies are screwing out their own workers what would this mean for those producing content in other countries?#what about our own local production companies that model american production houses?#oh we cant pay you a living wage cause thats industry standard. dont believe me? here is what a writer at X USA company at X TV show earns#also if you “cant afford” to pay your creatives a living wage then maybe you shouldnt be in charge#so yeah#i think this whole strike thing will affect more than just the US#just fucking pay your creatives
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#these are genuine screenshots of posts from the day and im putting these here both 1. for peoples enjoyment but 2. to archive it because the#y all live on my old ass computer which may croak it at any moment#this is a snapshot of the day none of these are my posts (obviously) and i feel really bad that dumb younger me didnt get peoples urls in#the screenshots#but on the bright side you see peoples customised blogs?? yay???#also all the twitter screenshots were taken by other tumblr users and posted in the tag on the day#i dont and didnt use twitter back then so theyre also tumblr vintage#i have more but i hit the image limit and im scheduling this post to be on the day and i cant figure out how to reblog and add more until#november 5th#nov 5th#spn#supernatural#destiel#destielputinelection
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number #1 tactic that people use to not sound as racist as they are when they talk to black people: 'uhh so you AMERICANS need to stop pretending everything is about YOU. why should i know this im not from the us :/' (= is talking about like. a phenomenally internationally well-known black artist)
#myposts#kendrick lamar#drake#i updated it from 'white europeans' to 'people' because some people pointed out that 'gringo' is probably more south american lingo#but the point i wanted to make is like. there is this subset of european people (quite a lot of them)#who try to deflect by saying them not knowing these things isn't because of an active lack of disinterest in black culture and influences#and like. them not knowing who a certain black person is is never an educational failing on their side of any sorts#but instead are pretending that like. they are by virtue of being european always correctly educated on What History And Art Is Important#like. 2 months back that one post pretending that 'us europeans dont need to know all your AMERICAN writers 🙄' talking about james baldwin?#like just because that person didnt know who james baldwin was#they immediately were mad at the implication that They Didn't Know Someone Of Cultural Significance#and twisted it into 'well he cant be that important by virtue of me not knowing him'#like completely ignoring that the european school system also has. race problems and also ignoring that he lived and wrote in France too#but like. its this really racist defence mechanism of like. 'well you stupid americans always make everything about yourselves'#i hope i make sense i didnt think this would blow up lol#and like some people in the notes of that post were so smug about not knowing who Kendrick Lamar is#bc to them thats like 'oh im too cultured to be listening to rap of any sorts' like completely dismissing his music as kind of second class#by virtue of it being rap and black music and him not being in the White Mainstream as much as other musicians#(i mean hes still like 24th most listened artist worldwide but you get what i mean)
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late night chat
#meeple.png#inanimate insanity#inanimate insanity invitational#ii oj#ii mephone4#ii mephoj#not inherently shippy but it is based on the weird gay little version of iii in my head#anyway i think they should've had some kind of summer romance in iii that changes their view on their lives forever#and leaves them haunted by eachother in a way that neither will want to address but it sticks with them#oj is Stuck in his shitty hotel job and kind of caged himself into that the more he insists its Just the way it is and hes fine with it#while mephone has simply gotten used to running away and hiding as much as he can#neither are good coping mechanisms but the kind of experience and perspective they have could be exactly what they need to hear#oj needs to Fucking Quit while mephone needs to let himself find community and let others know him#so he doesn't feel like he Has to run or he Has to do it alone#oj has connections albeit some messier than others#and hes a bit of a bitch but definitely more liked than mephone#and mephone has the If It Sucks Hit The Bricks mentality and the bluntness to get that through to oj#oj also has the perspective of being a s1 vet which means he has a very different view on mephone than others might#and that could do some good in getting through to mephone how his host behavior can negatively affect the contestants involved#mephone views oj as more equal to him as theyre business partners. hes very friendly to him (even if one sided.) he might just listen#sorry if this rant is redundant btw im not reading back any of this HAHA
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DPxDC Headcanon: the title "King of the Infinite Realms" is misleading
Sure, there are indeed an infinite amount of worlds and dimensions across the multiverse. However, the name "Infinite Realms" is actually referring to the space in between said realms. The malleable borders that act as cushions to prevent all these realities from constantly colliding with each other. If you compare the worlds themselves to bones, then the Infinite Realms would be the cartilage preventing friction whenever they move.
So if Danny ever became the king of the Infinite Realms, he wouldn't actually have authority over whatever goes on within said realms. After all, each world has their own set(s) of afterlives and deities already taking care of that. No, Danny would only be in charge of that squishy, ectoplasmic stretch of space that portals need to punch holes through in order to cross over.
#dpxdc#headcanon#infinite realms#This could also factor into why Pariah Dark had to be stopped by the other ancients#He overstepped important dimensional boundaries and upset the balance of several worlds binding them together under his ownership#Those ectoplasm borders eroding away until whole dimensions almost collapsed into each other#Long story short tho#While the IR can be a useful way to connect the living realms to various afterlives#I don't think being in charge of the IR automatically makes you in charge of every realm adjacent to it#That'd be like saying owning a street automatically grants you ownership of the buildings connected to it#Oh yeah I tagged this as DPxDC because I was getting a smidge bored of those crossover fics where Danny overpowers the JL without a sweat#Like yes our boy is very powerful#but for fics where he's still a teen I think he should still have some growing to do on the combat side of things#Even with him as an adult I'm worried about turning him into this ultra unfair mary sue with full control of all existence
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kinda thinking about how the women who serve as maternal figures/raise kids in yyh are never quite ready for it. genkai's an arguable exception, but like.. atsuko had yusuke at 15, shizuru's basically in charge of kazuma full time in her early 20s/late teens (depending on version) with very very absent parents, and even shiori is given a kid she wasn't expecting, in the form of an old, old demon rather than like. a regular, blank slate ass human baby. and although shiori seems to do quite well with kurama, kurama can never be honest with shiori about who he is, or much of what he's seen. if he was, it'd probably make things far more complicated and overwhelming. atsuko, no matter how much she cares for yusuke, Could Not Have Been and thus wasn't ready to have him at 15. her attempts to make the most of that situation have had middling success at best. shizuru has also been placed into a parental role. we don't really know how long she's been raising kuwabara, but that's.. probably still parentification anyway. she shouldn't have to do that, and she shouldn't have to do that so young. and i think some of her coarseness with kuwa is out of frustration with her own inexperience + inadequacy + uncertainty, his not cooperating, and their parents for putting this on her in the first place. the ones who know the full extent of their situation grow desperate and it squeaks out in unpleasant ways, and the one who seems unbothered by it is the only one who has no idea that she's in way over her head. and i mean. ok. gonna preface this by saying keiko is NOT yusuke's mom in any sense of the word. but she does take care of him in a way atsuko couldn't manage to. she's often looking after him and cleaning up after his messes and stuff. she takes him on as a responsibility, and that is, in a way, a caretaker role. not to say that it SHOULD be her responsibility, but it's how she ends up being.
and when the stress of trying to make someone take care of themselves or be kind or good or Whatever goes awry, again, the violence and arguing and distance and ugliness of caring for someone reveals itself.
and i wonder about that. for a series dedicated to physical fighting as a form of communication, what does it say that this extends to the complicated, quietly desperate situations of so many of the women/girls it depicts, whom our more central characters were shaped and raised by?
hell, even hiei touches on this, because hina loved hiei, but there was no way she was prepared for him, obviously, nor for the pain of losing him. rui (whom i also see as a sort of caretaker figure to hiei, inasmuch as either of them were caretakers) literally throws him off a cliff because she couldn't face down the village elders, and out of some mixture of care for hina and, likely, fear for her own survival. and the guilt and pain of that killed hina and deeply wounded rui.
it's like motherhood, this thing that's so often treated as sacred and beautiful, is a kind of stitched up, painful, eggshell-walking thing that hurts parent and child and it's just. oughh
#genuinely begging for discussion on this bc im too tired to think about it anymore but i think it's cool#yyh#yu yu hakusho#also apologies if any of the atsuko stuff's iffy im anime-only </3 i skimmed the wiki but. it's the wiki so grain of salt#atsuko urameshi#shizuru kuwabara#shiori minamino#keiko yukimura#genkai#yyh meta#<- i never tag stuff w that but i probably should..#this is making me a little emo about all of them but on the side more quietly kurama bc like. bro he loves his mom so much and he can't tel#her ANYTHING. houghhh she will never ever know him she will live and die within his lifetime and not know any of the big beautiful terrible#life of his that she's missed. god that fucking sucks dude wait#anyway something that's only grown in importance to me is how prickly the relationships in yyh can be. like damn they do love each other#and it's even mostly a good thing. but sometimes that means you're shitty to each other. sometimes you're not great at it yk#and the characters therein are complicated and flawed without feeling like it's a huge focus. like plenty of media go here's these fucked u#guys look at how they scuttle and that's cool fr but with yyh it feels so subtle and gentle and real. it's so personal and human and i love#it. even when it means hiei doesn't reunite with the gang at the end or when genkai never tells yusuke what he means to her#y'know? that stuff used to hurt me and now it hurts me in a good touching 'god i love people' kinda way. yeah
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STARDOM ☆ 7.28.24 ☆ SAPPORO WORLD RENDEZVOUS mayu acts as wingman to help hanan pin tam
#stardom#stardom wrestling#mayu iwatani#hanan#tam nakano#natsupoi#joshi puroresu#stardomedit#wrestlingedit#ogifs#owrestling#flashing gif#id in alt#im never sure how much detail to give for these.. also no guarantee any move names are actually accurate. im giving it my best lol.#this match was so cute so fun <3....#mayu's priorities ARE 1) loving her girls and 2) being petty and spiteful and mean and having fun with it esp wrt tam#and idk breaking her neck goes somewhere in there too or whatever#at the end of the match as mayu and hanan's arms are being raised by the ref in vistory#mayu is only looking at tam still lying on the mat with like. pure glee on her face#hanan's arm is still in the air and she's delighted for herself for this being the biggest win of her career so far#but mayu's only paying attention to tam and drops down to her hunkers to hold the iwgp belt in her face#shes SOO funny. icon of stardom forever and ever.#i love when girls use each other as weapons i hope they do it forever#ALSO oh my god when mayu stops people getting into the ring by just holding them in place and beating the side of their head over and over#like with natsupoi in the 4th gif. funniest shit in the world i love it so much#she did that with i believe mina at the philly show but i dont think the cameras caught it#so delighted we got to see it live there <3.. god mayu rules#anyway hanan getting the win here felt like a bigger deal in the moment before the 5star happened. lol 😔#i still want tam doing a gauntlet run of having a rematch with everyone that beat her in the 5star#maybe hanan can squeeze into that for a red belt shot
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hi, i haven't read the iliad and the odyssey but want to - do u have a specific translation you recommend? the emily wilson one has been going around bc, y'know, first female translator of the iliad and odyssey into english, but i was wondering on if you had Thoughts
Hi anon! Sorry for the somewhat late response and I'm glad you trust me with recommendations! Full, disclosure, I am somewhat of a traditionalist when it comes to translations of the source text of the Iliad + Odyssey combo wombo, which means I tend to prefer closeness in literal verbiage over interpretation of the poetic form of these epics - for that reason, my personal preferred versions of the Odyssey and Iliad both are Robert Fitzgerald's. Because both of these translations (and his Aeneid!) were done some 50+ years ago (63 for his original Odyssey tl, 50 flat for his Iliad and 40 for his Aeneid) the English itself can be a bit difficult to read and the syntax can get confusing in a lot of places, so despite my personal preferences, I wouldn't recommend it for someone who is looking to experience the Iliad + Odyssey for the very first time.
For an absolute beginner, someone who has tried to read one or both of these epics but couldn't get into it or someone who has a lot of difficulty with concentrating on poetry or long, winding bits of prose, I fully and wholeheartedly recommend Wilson's translation! See, the genius of Emily Wilson's Iliad + Odyssey isn't that she's a woman who's translated these classics, it's that she's a poet who's adapted the greek traditional poetic form of dactylic hexameter into the english traditional poetic form of iambic pentameter. That alone goes a very very long way to making these poems feel more digestible and approachable - iambic pentameter is simply extremely comfortable and natural for native english speakers' brains and the general briskness of her verbiage helps a lot in getting through a lot of the problem books that people usually drop the Iliad or Odyssey in like Book 2 of the Iliad or Book 4 of the Odyssey. I think it's a wonderful starting point that allows people to familiarise themselves with the source text before deciding if they want to dig deeper - personally, researching Wilson's translation choices alone is a massive rabbit hole that is worth getting into LOL.
The happy medium between Fitzgerald's somewhat archaic but precise syntax and Wilson's comfortable meter but occasionally less detailled account is Robert Fagles' Iliad + Odyssey. Now, full disclosure, I detest how Fagles handles epithets in both of his versions, I think they're far too subtle which is something he himself has talked at length about in his translation notes, but for everything else - I'd consider his translations the most well rounded of english adaptations of this text in recent memory. They're accurate but written in plain English, they're descriptive and detailled without sacrificing a comfortable meter and, perhaps most importantly, they're very accessible for native english speaking audiences to approach and interact with. I've annotated my Fagles' volumes of these books to heaven and back because I'm deeply interested in a lot of the translation decisions made, but I also have to specifically compliment his ability to capture nuance in the characters' of these poems in a way I don't often see. He managed to adapt the ambivalence of ancient greek morality in a way I scarcely see and that probably has a hand in why I keep coming back to his translations.
Now, I know this wasn't much of a direct recommendation but as I do not know you personally, dear anon, I can't much make a direct recommendation to a version that would best appeal to your style of reading. Ideally, I'd recommend that you read and enjoy all three! But, presuming that you are a normal person, I suggest picking which one is most applicable for you. I hope this helps! 🥰
#ginger answers asks#greek mythology#the iliad#the odyssey#okay so now that I'm not recommending stuff I also highly highly HIGHLY suggest Stephen Mitchell's#Fuck accuracy and nuance and all that shit if you just want a good read without care for the academic side of things#Stephen Mitchell's Iliad and Odyssey kick SO much fucking ass#I prefer Fitzgerald's for the busywork of cross-checking and cross-referencing and so it's the version I get the most use out of#But Mitchell's Iliad specifically is vivid and gorgeous in a way I cannot really explain#It's not grounded in poetic or translationary preferences either - I'm just in love with the way he describes specifically the gods#and their work#Most translations and indeed most off-prose adaptations are extremely concerned with the human players of these epics#And so are a bit more ambivalent with the gods - but Mitchell really goes the extra mile to bring them to life#Ugh I would be lying if I said Mitchell's Apollo doesn't live rent free in my mind mmm#Other translations I really like are Stanley Lombardo's (1997) Thomas Clark's (1855) and Smith and Miller (1944)#Really fun ones that are slightly insane in a more modern context (but that I also love) are Pope's (1715) and Richard Whitaker (2012)#Whitaker's especially is remarkable because it's a South African-english translation#Again I can't really talk about this stuff because the ask was specifically for recommendations#But there are SO many translations and adaptations of these two epics and while yes I have also contributed to the problem by recommending#three very popular versions - they are alas incredibly popular for a reason#Maybe sometime I'll do a listing of my favourite Iliad/Odyssey tls that have nothing to do with academic merit and instead are rated#entirely on how much I enjoy reading them as books/stories LMAO
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Favorite and least favorite activities, if you’re willing to share?
Also, did you learn anything about what’s going on with the new guy down the hall? Sure, you were supposed to stay out of it, but you’ve got to at least be a little curious, right?
LEO: *quiet guilty thoughts because he can't ask about if Loki is like Loki in the movies* *pretending to know anything about Norse mythology*
MAGNUS: *overthinking about Uncle Randolf and the Loki symbols* *forgetting that Norse demigods aren't the only demigods bc they still haven't talked about his Greek cousin*
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#at some milestone I'm thinking magnus should answer some questions! but probably not for another lil bit (I'm on vacation this weekend)#for now feel free to keep prompting for these interactions bc I live for it#Leo's got other activities to go to and people to meet; he also needs to be presented by Sam to the einherjar...#Leo I think this is your hint to talk to Magnus some more#leo valdez#magnus chase#mcga#hotel valhalla#blood of olympus#post-blood of olympus#v²au#art#leo valdez responds#hammer of thor#magnus chase and the gods of asgard#*groans in probably setting myself up for a continuity error bc I've officially placed us on chapters 4-6 of HoT* whatever#alex fierro#bby's first appearance!#man I'm already thinking about all the things these 3 have to bond over I'm so happy for them#sidenote is the canonical croquet hate as funny to anyone as it is to me? I loved making that the thing they became friends over pls#also TBC they are not actually the chess pieces I was just showing which side they were on T-T
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I’m kind of baffled about the state of dawntrail discussions having two parties in regards to Living Memory, one being “shutting it down is amoral” and the other being “it’s moral and not at all like what Emet-Selch wanted to do with us”. It’s like a lot of people refuse to engage with the narrative from any other perspective other than their own when the game essentially hits you over the head with the message.
Yes, the existence of Living Memory is unsutainable and amoral and, frankly, pointless – you can make the very valid argument that the people there were just AI chatbots trained on the memories of a given individual, leeching off of the souls of others, their existence demanding the genocide of the entire universe in the end. I agree, in our eyes, Living Memory is an affront to life, sure!
Nobody seems to talk about that this is the exact same perspective Emet-Selch had about us, or when mentioned, people say that it isn’t the same. It is? He very explicitly tells us that the people living on the shards today are pale imitations to what he considered to be life, and thus shutting it down and trying to undo his mistake IS the solution (he is very much like Solas from DA in this regard), because in his eyes there’s nothing to lose but everything to gain. Emet-Selch saw us in the same light we see the people of Living Memory, and the game is painfully unsubtle in drawing this parallel. Even with the differences (we are not recreated memories but actual souls being reborn from the aetherial sea, etc-etc), the game WANTS you to make this connection between Emet and what we do. It is quite literally the point!
Yes, Living Memory has to be shut down because its biggest drawback is that it’s unsustainable and would continue to destroy what we deem to be lives. It is also arguably an affront to what we consider life and its natural end (directly opposing the message of Endwalker). The Endless aren’t even too hung up about this shutdown, bar Sphene. Shutting down Living Memory is necessary.
But you can’t say it was morally good and unquestionable if you can’t give Emet’s views the same grace. In the end, both his plans (and the Ascians at large, frankly) and Living Memory had to be stopped because that means survival for us, but to divorce the two narratives to maintain the WoL and co.’s moral superiority is disingenuous and does the story a disservice.
#and frankly divorcing the two schools of thought is also incredibly boring. the expansion talks about so many things (some topics done#better than others) but I never would have guessed that people would be so willing to miss the literal point of the comparison that crops u#yes there are differences but the main point is that if you don't see the Endless as living then you have to understand why Emet didn't see#us as living and if you do see them as living beings then you have to wrestle with essentially genociding them. you not seeing them as#living beings is the exact same thought process Emet utilised. IT IS THE POINT!#anyway I agree that the Endless had to end but my god the surrounding discussions drive me up the wall#(this is the Solas-Veil conversation all over again where both vocal sides miss crucial points)#ANYWAY#dawntrail spoilers#dt spoilers#dawntrail#ffxiv#had to get this out of my system#I'm travelling for work and yet my thoughts are consumed by the discourse
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I just realized I accidentally predicted Bakugou sacrificing himself for Deku when making up an AU fic in my head last year 😭
#I think i actually killed him off tho#it was a villain deku au#tho it wasnt my usual version i made up#it was its own thing based on this weird idea I had where class 1-A and Mirio were making a movie for school for some reason#it ended up becoming its own au#it was 100% a bldk au too#Izuku was living a double life as a villain and as Katsuki's innovent fiancé#katsuki was Mirio's side kick and Mirio was the hero (it was a kinda weird pairing looking back)#they were trying to find out the identify of the villain and katsuki figured out that it was izuku#he ends up purposely messing up the investigation to protect izuku#he learns the hero society had decided to kill the villain#he sacrifices himself and deku holds him as he dies#then he gets revenge and i cant remebrr if i bring katsuki back or use that as a reason for izuku to commit#im not really feeling rhat last option tho#should i write this?#i would write my other villain deku au but thats too underdeveloped for me to do it the way i want to#tho ido have a good scene i would do#oh i forgot that random members of class 1-A played different roles#like denki shinso momo and i think jirou were working for izuku for some reason (#which genuinely doesnt have anything to with the fact i ship denki and shinso and also jirou and momo#mha#mha ships#mha bakugou#mha spoilers#deku#izuku midoriya#izuku#mha izuku#bnha izuku#bakugou katsuki
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tiktok's banned in my country but ive heard the scene where aaravos cries is leaked if so is there a way for you to share it here because i really wanna see my husband cry like a pathetic bitch (im mentally unwell)
(I UNDERSTAND YOU IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL UNWELL AARAVOS FANS)
andd ahh sure !!!
i also am in the process of getting the unedited footage from someone off tiktok/twt maybe so i will rb with that if/when i do
in the meantime here are all the edits i could find on tiktok
#tdp s6 spoilers#tdp s6 leak#aaravos#aaravos crying#q&a#self spaghettification#side rant:#i doubt it will be the case since it is tumblr (hellsite/pos)#but in case anyone wants to come to me like#nooo!!! don’t spread leaked footage!!! you don’t care about the dragon prince creators!!!#i will outline my reasons.#i would’ve paid for/loved to go to nycc except i live on the other side of the country#and it was also inaccessible to many many other fans.#there were a lot of questions i have lined up i would like to ask too!!#and info like this genuinely helps revive interest in a hyperfixation especially in a tdp dry spell!#i find it especially intriguing for use in theories or art. :)
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Poor Emmanellain sending this relatively new, silent, stoic adventurer off on a delivery only to realize its going to take twice as long as just delivering it himself.
Zenos gets to deal with both the pain of not being able use Aetherytes and being dramatically stubborn of doing a job he was given regardless of it.
#ffxiv#concept#fan art#sketch#adventurer zenos#zenos yae galvus#emmanellain de fortemps#sometimes i'm just occassionally blindsided remembering that these two are the same age#I might draw a scenario later of Emm taking in Zenos like Haurche does for us#travelling alone he actually starts to learn that its kinda nice helping people who dont put you on a pedestal#or jump to calling you a monster behind your back (*cough* Asahi and Varis *cough*)#Also Ali's words really just live rent free in his brain#in fact looking back to how I've worked on writing him#it might in fact be the only thing living in his brain at the moment#him being an adventurer is boiled down to 'if I do stuff for other people maybe i won't end up alone forever'#because I am still on the side that no matter how much he'll want to he's physically incapable of dying anymore#resonant/emet's experiments go brr
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favourite twdg villain?
I'm a fond enjoyer of the St. John's as villains. I don't know if they're my favorite just because they're only in one episode, but I love the concept of this family almost immediately jumping into cannibalism toward the start of the outbreak, dealing in human flesh to bandits, and casually feeding this group their friend's legs.
Like... what the hell was this family like before the outbreak that all three of them were like, "Hey now listen... nothing should go to waste, the dead are eating people so why shouldn't we? We gotta survive and in our defense, we only target those who were gonna die anyway... like y'all."
Dude, Mark was shot in this shoulder with an arrow. He wasn't going to die from that injury. It's so fucked that these seemingly friendly people took the group into their home and then fed them Mark's legs.
If we take the idea that everyone is infected and have the capacity within themselves to become walkers, to become monsters, then the St. John's were infected long before the outbreak, y'know? Not literally, but something was wrong with them and the outbreak just further spread that infection and changed them.
But again, are they my favorite? I dunno if I can say that since I have a lot more appreciation for Lily now. Yeah, some of her writing gets a little wonky in ep3 of TFS when she goes on her monologues and shit, but y'know what? I'm into it.
You have to remember who we're talking about and the fact that she's the antagonist; Lily isn't some anti-hero in TFS who secretly has a heart of gold that's brought to light because she reunited with Clementine... she's a fucked up woman who did fucked up things in the name of survival. She's full of rot now. She sees kidnapping children and turning them into soldiers to protect her home as a means to an end, but she doesn't actually give a shit about the people she's taking. They aren't people to her, they're as the episode title suggests, toys in her game. The only one she sees as a person is Clementine, and while that makes her hesitate at first, she sees Clementine's a prize to bring back.
She remembers what happened in S1; her father had a heart attack and as she tried to save him, Kenny smashed his face in with a saltlick and then expected Lily to just stand up and help him get back to his family because "he did what he had to, he made the hard choice." Yes, Larry was a piece of shit. No one liked him, and you can even question Lily on him and she'll tell you that he has a lot of pain. Yes, it makes him an asshole, but he's still her dad and he's all she has. I mean... the simplification is daddy issues, but in all seriousness, I don't doubt for a second that many of Lily's issues stem from Larry being a shitty father to her.
Then everyone thought she was losing it when she insisted there was a traitor in the group, which she was right about, but she was unstable. She was unwell, but how do you help someone like that when you don't have training to go about it? Then Lily ends up killing either Carley or Doug and the group turns on her, and either she's left behind or she steals the van and runs away.
Then we don't know what the hell happened to her until we see her again in TFS, but like... a lone woman with decay festering inside of her joining the delta? Exposing her to their methods? I mean, what else did she have to lose? She had nothing, she lost everything, and she has a lot of issues. Survival is easy when you're numb, when you don't care about the individual; they're all just cogs churning to make the system run, and if a piece doesn't cooperate, you get rid of it and find a new one.
Plus I think there's something to say about Lily not wanting to be perceived as weak again. That whole display she put on in the cells? Telling the story of what happened to Minerva and Sophie? I get the criticism that it feels like Lily did a 180 between episodes but like... yeah dude, because it's a performance. It's not just her and Clementine anymore. It's a display of power and authority. She's playing the part and thriving in it as she ensures everyone else is terrified of her.
But then when Clementine and AJ get the upper hand? Again, she's not afraid to play up the pleading to earn enough sympathy to spare her- hell, just to let their guard down enough to strike and get the upper hand again. I mean, she's got nothing else to lose, right? If she doesn't go for it, she'll be killed and sure, you can kill her anyway but at least she tried.
Honestly, I look at Lily in TFS and still see that scared little girl playing the tough bitch, just like Carley said in S1. It's just now escalated from "tough bitch" to a downright vile person. She's so... lost? I suppose? Lost within herself and the monstrous means she's taken to survive.
I get the criticisms of how she was used in TFS, but for me, it's like when people complain about Minerva not getting the redemption arc she supposedly should've gotten, y'know? There's no saving her. Lily was never on our side, and there was no getting her on our side. She wasn't ever going to redeem herself. Even if you spare her and she drifts away on her raft, can someone like her actually find redemption? Or will she just find another group that'll feed into her rot?
Truly, I say let her be horrid. Let her be the piece of shit villain with a few fleeting moments of humanity. Let her drown in the blood she's spilled.
#asks#twdg lily#twdg andy st john#twdg danny st john#twdg brenda st john#twdg clementine#twdg minerva#twdg mark#twdg larry#twdg kenny#i know i used to complain about lily in tfs a lot years ago but past cj complained about everything tbh sksksks#now i'm just like babe lily's interesting as shit like not every villain needs a redemption arc just because you think they're hot#and don't wanna feel bad or because you want her to be like she was in s1 when she was sympathetic like... it's been years#that's like being mad that clementine isn't the same person as she was in s1... the difference is we got to see clementine grow#but what happened to lily is a mystery... but that doesn't mean she didn't change especially for the worst#i dunno sometimes i look at lady antagonists in media and then look at people's reactions and i'm like.......... hmmmm#c'mon now- if kenny came back in tfs the same exact way then y'all would be foaming at the mouth insisting he's complex#and morally grey and he's just really sad about his family dying and really he's a sad widdle meow meow but also the best villain#who should be spared because he always cared about clementine and aj and he's just traumatized and sad and amazing unlike OTHERS#like.................... okay sure mmhmmmm#side note but the worst thing about kenny is the fact that he IS a brilliantly written character but his stans tend to just be the worst#anyway i like lily she's a great tfs antagonist like i recognize there are some weak spots and i wish she has more of a presence in ep4#if she lived but y'know... gotta make room for minerva being the final bridge boss so... yeah
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