#hws indus

[specialagentartemis]

The Salado Phenomenon is what I’m writing my thesis on right now haha. The Wikipedia page for it sucks, don’t look at that. I need to do an overhaul of it one of these days

[mysticalmusicwhispers]

indus's google searches: "good apology gifts for neighbour" "how to keep your children away from bad influences" "preventing your child from being a delinquent" "how to prevent delinquents from coming into your home"

i think it's probably an accumulation of similar incidents that finally get yao banned from the house lol the third time they end up in trouble yao is kicked out and BANNED from coming back. ever. no matter how mournful aditya looks. no. so he just has to hang out with yao at the park i guess, or at yao's own house. yao's neighbours are greatly saddened by this development but aditya's neighbours heave a sigh of relief

but also imagine indus and nyo china meeting... indus being like "you have done a TERRIBLE job of raising this child he has engaged in so much property destruction!! do you know how much time and resources i need to repair relations with my neighbours now??" and nyo china being like "nah he's a good child look at his acads also ill give you money dw"

also YES she'd bring all sort of cool stuff and stores from around the world for yao and yao probably finds that so much fun... also lmao she probably thinks 1 healthy meal a day is sufficient (no) thank goodness yao is Independent™

parent teacher meetings are going to be so terrifying omg like other parents will try and passive-aggressively talk about the stuff yao has done and she'll be like "eh whatever idc your kid is just not powerful enough" and when the teacher brings up yao's behaviour issues she's just going to be like "he's getting 100s for math even though he hates it i think he's a great child he'll be fine" lmaoooo

ASDLKFDS YEAH poor Indus though.. her searches are such a mood... I feel like she would be pretty successful at getting back in her neighbors’ good books though, especially after booting Yao out lol

That sounds good! (when Aditya tells Yao, he doesn't look at all disappointed and says point blank "just sneak me in, nobody will know". Indus chucks him out by the ear when she finds out and prevents Aditya ever going to visit Yao's house again. Aditya becomes much more studious after this. "I need to go to the library today to do research for history/social studies! I need to stay after school for extra help! I'm going to the string recital today because [insert friend here] is playing!" There is no history project, no extra help session, and no string recital. He is actually just going to Yao's house.) "Yao's neighbors are greatly saddened by this development" THEY SURE WILL BE lmao half the time nyo china is not home and the other half she just gives them free reign to do whatever and just patches their destruction up with money. I think she would like India; he's a little more sunshiney and talkative but just as menacing as Yao sometimes so she can handle it lol.

Also omg the antagonism. At their first meeting Indus goes "oh that's who's been raising Yao this whole time? Imma go chew her out right now brb" also sksksksk THE MONEY... nyo China is truly a pragmatist. Money solves all problems lol

And yeah cool tourist merchandise haha. I think their whole dynamic is just "we kind of got pushed together randomly but it's ok". Yao likes nyo china because she is a moneybag, gives him cool stuff, and lets him do pretty much whatever he wants (fine by him). Nyo China is fine with handling Yao because she doesn't need to do anything for him lol. Mutually beneficial relationship (for those two only. Everyone else suffers.)

Also parent-teacher meetings... the palpable tension in the room lol. I love that everyone is giving the most blatant hints to nyo China that her child is a borderline delinquent and she's like "well if my child is a delinquent your children should get on his level." F in the chat. Nyo China takes one look at Yao's report card, sees the 100s (or A+s) in like every class, and is content. She does not read nor care about the teacher's comments at the bottom that say "mischief child, undisciplined, has been to detention 12 times already, uncooperative and does not like to follow directions. Has few friends or acquaintances, and often gets into disagreements with peers that usually result in physical altercations. Please talk to Wang Yao about his actions at school and discuss how he can improve his behavior." Nyo China just logics it out with "see, these numbers are objective. The teacher's comments are not, and I only deal with facts. Therefore you're totally ok in my book as long as you keep doing well in class." RIP Wang Yao's teacher lol

[ask-pakistan]

Indus Valley Civilization and her baby who wasn’t even born in the timeline she was alive in but i decided to eff that , the mother and son should bond and here is the AU for that. I changed IVC’s clothing just a tad bit to be somewhat historically accurate.

[peonycats]

miscellaneous chibi doodle dump! I've been posting on instagram recently and adding these fun little bonuses to my reposts heheh

characters labelled, from left to right

1) India & Pakistan

2) Tanzania & Uganda

3) Gambia & Senegal

4) India & Indus River Valley Civilization

5) Haiti, Cuba, Dominican Republic

6) Sapmi & Ainu

7) Ethiopia, Somalia, Oman, Yemen, Iran

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[bauliya]

People act like Ancient Egypt was some mystical n unknown civilization and romanticize the shit out of it even though we have all the knowledge of it. While ancient Egypt is interesting, yknow what actually fits the mold of 'advanced civilization with some unknown ending,n no way to know about them cause their text is undecipherable'? Harrapa civilization (that being said I prefer the things they are, I don't want HW to bastardize indus nor want to stroke H*ndutva pandits already inflated ego)

Interesting. I have no idea why you're telling me this.

[mojav]

Indu you're so gorgeous but do your hw!

god yeah youre right ill catch u all on the flipside!! its been great i love u

[ask-pakistan]

So the earlier Ask got me thinking, what if Pakistan was born from the very start of his history?(like, from Pakistan’s ancient history, from the times of IVC herself) That would make him a very old personification, perhaps older than India himself.

If that had been the case, perhaps He would’ve been the one to raise Hindustan, as IVC had once done to him. I think that would make for a very fun interpretation, different from my usual one lol

[peonycats]

On the topic of ancients, who do you think represented the Indus Valley Civilization? Indians, for nationalist(patriotic?) reasons tend to argue that modern India is an extension of IVC. Others, and including some Pakistanis, tend to see IVC as a totally different civilization. Since you’ve got a pretty good depth of characterization for India, I was wondering if you had an opinion on this? :-)

Man oh man this is a... controversial conversation sweats loudly I hope the hindu nationalists dont get my ass....

My take, from the perspective of personifying nations, is that the Indus Valley Civilization (prbly more accurately called the Harappan Civilization considering that most of its sites arent even around the Indus) is a “different” nation-tan from India, as far as we know about it. I use quotes around different in that the word different is an ever changing definition, as well as what what metrics what we’re using to define. 

Here’s the thing about the Indus Valley Civilization- we don’t know a lot about it. Since we cant decipher the Indus script, we have no idea how the administration or how centralized the IVC was- cuz they do have a system of standardized weights and measures across multiple settlements in the area, and that would require some communication/connection to achieve, but for all we know, IVC could be a decentralized collection collection of city states, leading to not even just one IVC personification running around at the time.

I do think there is most certainly a connection between India, the modern day personification we know and love (?), and IVC, as I headcanon that India more closely tied to the northwest at his core. India today (and the India of, for example 300s CE) is significantly different from IVC. For example, the Aryan Migrations had an enormous effect on what would become India’s culture, religion, and people, and I think that would be an important boundary between IVC and what many ppl think of as “India.” 

(I know that the Aryan Migration Theory is very controversial but there is significant genetic, linguistic, and archaeological evidence to support the idea that some ppl moved in, mingled with prior populations, and created a new unique culture (like how most cultures arise), not whatever colonialist bullshit English ppl used to prove “India has always been dominated by (conveniently paler) foreigners” back in the 1800s)

I personally headcanon that India popped up around the late IVC age (tho exactly when is hard to say) when whatever IVC personification(s) was already on the decline. He remembered her (them?) as a human woman who raised him in his murky early beginnings, until archaeological findings resurfaced some long gone memories.

[ask-pakistan]

Mama’s little boy.

A little Drabble under the cut lol.

It was hard for him to breathe, it ached everywhere. He couldn’t move. His throat burned, head was spinning.  He couldn’t remember where he was, or why it had gotten so dark so soon.The pain had hit him so intensely he’d lost all his balance and tripped over a few stones, landing face-first into sand. He could feel his muscles spasming under his skin.

It must’ve been one of those times..

He wasn’t able to recall where he fell, or how long he had been lying there. Something he did know was that the pain wasn’t going to get any better any time soon. It was only getting worser.

Distantly, he could make out the vague sounds of people screaming, metals clanking. Men roaring. This wasn’t good. This wasn’t good at all because he knew. He knew when they screamed like that people die.

He whimpered.

He wanted to get away. He wanted to escape. Those people scared him. They were hurting the villagers and they were going to hurt him too and--

Just then, a gentle hand pressed onto his back. A strange sense of relief washed over Umer. He felt someone softly rubbing circles on the sides of back.

“Do not worry child, i am here for you.” spoke the voice of a woman.

 He couldn’t tell if this was real or the pain had worsened to the point he was starting to hallucinate things. But this was welcome. He was starting to lose consciousness anyway.

The woman carefully dragged him into a warm embrace. His sore little muscles complied to her actions. Her presence seem to calm his nerves. He felt a kiss his temple, “I’ll stay by your side for the night, little boy.”

The sound of carnage were growing distant.

He was content with that.

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Alright so i must inform you, i am not the best at English, neither am i a good writer. But i wanted to write something with Baby Umer and IVC anyway. Q__Q This is my first time writing something somewhat seriously. I’m sorry if this was cringe but i tried my best lol.

Englishhh isn’t my only language lol

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Some Headcanons:

Umer has dreamt of IVC long before her ruins were discovered in the 1900s. He knew of her presence in a strange innate way, but didn’t know how credible this feeling was. Growing up, he thought he might’ve conjured up the figure of this woman to cope with his sense of loneliness and grief. That was until he visited the ruins of her civilization himself, was when he realized he recognized this place from his dreams. 

I think it would be a fun concept to have the Ancients appear in the dreams of their descendants once in a while lol Now whether their descendants believe they’re real or not is entirely subjective but i think a concept like that would be sweet. I think the link of IVC to Pakistan is kinda deep, in the sense that IVC has ancient sites in nearly all provinces of Pakistan. And Pakistan roughly constitutes the entire region which was once IVC’s territories. 

Growing up, Umer felt like a outcast. Not because of his apparent case of not aging (as compared to humans), but also because he didn’t really fit into a category of what he represented. He had no sense of being a proper “Nation” till very later on. He had seen empires and their personifications running amok with such pride and spirit, like they had it all figured out. I guess Umer kinda envied that. He just needed to find a place of his own.

[ask-pakistan]

The one who now rules this land. 

[Predecessor & Successor]

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Some Pakistan and IVC Headcannons:

=> IVC and Umer have never met. In fact, the existence of IVC was recently discovered in the 1900s. The period of IVC’s death and Umer’s birth are thousands of years apart.

=> Umer often wonders what IVC would’ve thought had she seen what has become of her land. Would she approve or disapprove of him?

=> The IVC scriptures have still not been deciphered yet so he doesn’t knows what happened or how the IVC declined.

=> Umer likes to think of the personification of IVC as a parent figure for him, even if he doesn’t knows a lot about her and her people yet.

[mysticalmusicwhispers]

WSKFJEKGJ indus Not Approving of yao is BRILLIANT also i am not a dog person but also not a being mean to animals person so i am not sure how to feel about the poor dog... still it is exactly what they would do (and then poor indus has to deal with yao being invited over repeatedly after this visit. f. if they do something too stupid he's going to be banned and there will be the additional chaos of sneaking him in.... )

YEP i don't think baby yao has much pity for anyone let alone himself and he also doesn't know what fear means. also OH NO NYO CHINA AS HIS GUARDIAN. OH N O the thing is that nyo china is probably working/worked either in finance or as some sort of private tutor for like 25 subjects for students over the world because she's brilliant... but that means like long or irregular hours and probably a lot of time out of the country... which means that yao has so much time (and money, via a fat allowance) to go F E R A L. also you KNOW she wouldn't discipline him even if she had the time. she'd just be like go baby! kids will be kids! i'll use my money to scrub your bullshit from your records! as long as you get good grades and keep yourself fed you are a-OK! she also has the moral backbone of a chocolate éclair and negative 10 parenting skills. and yao obviously follows this example of "if you have enough money/power you are Above The Law, you can ignore any laws you think are stupid". which uhh cultivates his ambition and discipline in academics, so i guess at least she didn't fail there??? she would be such a terrible parent/guardian omg i think both 2p and 2p nyo china are better parents/guardians who can actually instill but NO of course it HAD to be her

also thank you for the book rec when i get back home i'll read it!

SNEAKING HIM IN AKSJDKS also yeah india is like “haha you suggested I invite him now he’s Excited!! I have to keep inviting him, or else I’ll lose my friend!” *puppy dog eyes*. F in the chat for Indus. Also lol yeah I’m not a dog person either but I think it would be one of those small yappy dogs because they are not very intimidating but very annoying. Yao dislikes it for whatever mysterious reason and they somehow manage to get it to wash itself in a bucket of water with pink hair dye, and then lock itself outside the neighbor’s house. Unfortunately the neighbor has a security camera and things get out of hand from there. Idk what would get him banned but I honestly don’t think it would take much lmao, Indus is already at her limit with the first stunt...

Also YES to finance/tutor nyo China! I love that she travels a lot and is just that sort of absent but also pretty cool guardian who facetimes her ward (or whatever) and says “Ill bring you (insert souvenir/traditional snacks) from (insert country here) when I get back. Did you do all your homework? What have you been eating? Mhmm.... ok! You seem to be holding up fine, I have a call from a client right now so I have to hang up.” (Yao usually has his hw done and even if he answers he just ate snacks and like 1 proper meal at a friend’s house it’ll probably satisfy nyo china). YES TO THE FAT ALLOWANCE and the too-much leniency.... FFFFFFFFFF in the chat for every single classmate of Yao’s and their parents. IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SHE GOES TO MEET THE TEACHER ON TEACHER PARENT NIGHT lmaooo all Yao’s classmates are scared of her but all his classmates’ parents are giving nyo China the evil eye (but simultaneously being a little bit scared of this woman who has ended up raising a feral child) sksksksks kinda hilarious. Yao and nyo China are just in their own little familial dynamic while everyone else is trying to stay as far away as possible from them lol. And yeah lol, I was gonna have her either be Yao’s adult cousin or aunt (like idk mid 20s (23 would probably be the youngest) to early 30s or something) so she’s just vibing by herself and then gets a child, says “oh well, I guess I can take him” and literally is just his provider of food and shelter but not much else. Yao is fine with that though because his Independence is strong lol

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[ask-pakistan]

This is a cool take on it. Pakistanis are highly sensitive about IVC and largely regard that civilization as a part of our own personal heritage. I too HC that IVC has influenced Chibi Hindustan in his early years and disappeared later on. But i am extremely uncomfortable with the idea of the modern day republic of India as being a direct descendant of IVC or being the IVC itself. 'cause that basically feels like our heritage is being appropriated as the heritage of another nation.

If anything, the people who are the most closely tied to that civilization in the modern-day and age are Pakistanis themselves + the bordering north western Indians. India (the republic) too is a nation that is extremely diverse in on itself so that just feels wrong.

On the topic of ancients, who do you think represented the Indus Valley Civilization? Indians, for nationalist(patriotic?) reasons tend to argue that modern India is an extension of IVC. Others, and including some Pakistanis, tend to see IVC as a totally different civilization. Since you’ve got a pretty good depth of characterization for India, I was wondering if you had an opinion on this? :-)

Man oh man this is a... controversial conversation sweats loudly I hope the hindu nationalists dont get my ass....

My take, from the perspective of personifying nations, is that the Indus Valley Civilization (prbly more accurately called the Harappan Civilization considering that most of its sites arent even around the Indus) is a “different” nation-tan from India, as far as we know about it. I use quotes around different in that the word different is an ever changing definition, as well as what what metrics what we’re using to define. 

Here’s the thing about the Indus Valley Civilization- we don’t know a lot about it. Since we cant decipher the Indus script, we have no idea how the administration or how centralized the IVC was- cuz they do have a system of standardized weights and measures across multiple settlements in the area, and that would require some communication/connection to achieve, but for all we know, IVC could be a decentralized collection collection of city states, leading to not even just one IVC personification running around at the time.

I do think there is most certainly a connection between India, the modern day personification we know and love (?), and IVC, as I headcanon that India more closely tied to the northeast at his core. India today (and the India of, for example 300s CE) is significantly different from IVC. For example, the Aryan Migrations had an enormous effect on what would become India’s culture, religion, and people, and I think that would be an important boundary between IVC and what many ppl think of as “India.” 

(I know that the Aryan Migration Theory is very controversial but there is significant genetic, linguistic, and archaeological evidence to support the idea that some ppl moved in, mingled with prior populations, and created a new unique culture (like how most cultures arise), not whatever colonialist bullshit English ppl used to prove “India has always been dominated by (conveniently paler) foreigners” back in the 1800s)

I personally headcanon that India popped up around the late IVC age (tho exactly when is hard to say) when whatever IVC personification(s) was already on the decline. He remembered her (them?) as a human woman who raised him in his murky early beginnings, until archaeological findings resurfaced some long gone memories.