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Huge thanks to Elizabeth Winthrop Alsop for this excellent piece on "How, What and When Book Authors Get Paid"
The Royal(ty) Lesson I’m reposting this newsletter that I sent out over a year ago in case some of my newer readers missed it. I continue to get questions on the royalty system, both in traditional publishing, and in the newer forms from independent presses to hybrid to self-publishing. I hope this math lesson helps a little to clarify matters. I’ve learned over the years that many readers, fans…
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i know i say that atsushi likes to spend his extra cash on kyouka but i also dont think kyouka lives there for "free" like she could, atsushi wouldn't mind, but i feel like it makes more sense for her to contribute since its not like atsushi's rolling in cash
maybe atsushi wouald be hesitant at a 50-50 thing becuz she's so little and he cares so much about her but i dont believe its 0-100 ya know?
#like i feel like in fics there'll be throw away lines the author probably didnt over think about atsushi deciding not to eat becuz he spent#his last change on kyouka#i think kyouka would pull a 36th before she let her brother go hungry even for a moment if she had the money#which i mean she works a job so she probably gets paid#i feel like their financial burden is becuz they don't have anything ya know#like its different spending ur money on bills and food and shit vs having to buy furniture and get new things#like do u guys know how expensive a fucking mattress is#insane#what else#oh right its not becuz she would just let him spend all his money on her and be broke#and suffer#anyway i need u guys to put respect on kyouka's name and kyouka and atsushi's relationship
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I’ll never forget how insecure Stansa’s got when the Key Five was revealed, complained about it and then to cope they created the ‘Core Six’ and actually ties into their continuous stream of passing of fanon as canon and at the same time being the usual delusional bunch they’ve always been
What's really funny is that they still confidently claim that the Key Five doesn't mean anything, solely because she isn't a part of it. The Core Six is a completely fanon invention but people talk about it like it's fact. They want her to be more important than she is so badly that they're straight up ignoring the author. And yes, until otherwise stated by George, the Key Five are still a thing. Tbh I'm not sure if there was ever a time that they engaged with the source material though? A lot of them came from the show (*cough*fanfiction) so that's where a majority of their takes are coming from. That's why we get people saying things like "Sansa charmed George off the page" or "Sansa took Arya's place as George's favorite Stark sister". They just desperately want the show to match up with the books. What's annoying is that her not being a part of the Key Five doesn't mean she isn't important, but people take it as hate towards her. It's sad that the only version of her they like is her fanon one.
#ask#anon#key five#anti sansa stans#the way people think they can just decide who the main characters are is insane#if the author himself is telling you /here are my main characters/ then maybe idk he considers those his main characters#also the fact that they're his favorite and he's constantly talking about how important they are but who cares about that?#we all know fanon is more important 🤪#/it's unfair/ to say she isn't a key five even though they belittle Arya and Dany like they get paid for it#rip to people who think Sansa replaced Arya as grrms favorite stark sister cause he loves that little girl 😭#he constantly says it has her in every book has a novella's worth of chapters for her in braavos has her connected to multiple plotlines...#she's the princess of the key five for a reason
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if anyone was wondering, i’m currently reading published RPF about F. Scott Fitzgerald for *checks notes* my job, so that’s how my life is going.
#i’m not getting PAID to do it unfortunately#but i am getting an absolutely insane emotional experience#and i’m only three chapters in so i’m sure there’s plenty more excitement to come!#the author CANNOT write dialogue for shit… he cannot emulate how real people speak and puts exposition dumps IN the dialogue#and his descriptions are clunky and could have used some more polishing#he’s not great at showing instead of telling#or like. he IS - but he’ll show and then IMMEDIATELY tell#which is just SO disrespectful to the audience imo#and/or the sign of a lack of confidence in the writer#so bad either way#and literally the reason i was annoyed about that one movie earlier#so like. 🤷🤷#at least the movie had better dialogue#but i think that’s mainly because [redacted] just says whatever the fuck he wants#i know this because i do programs the same way - i can spot a fellow vibes-based speaker easily#it’s good but also MASSIVELY distracting because it reminds me of myself so i get self-conscious 😂😂
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have to be honest guys its actually going Really Badly again.
#j.txt#vent#barest thread holding me back right now and I dont even know what to do to fix it besides trying to repress it as deep as possible#I'm just. so overwhelmed and tired and frantic all the time. Work is giving me authority positions I didnt ask for and am not paid to do#my family is insane as always and I'm extra on edge around them bc I can just sense the impending fallout-#from when they realize Im taking hormones. Not that that is actually happening yet bc my insurance is fucking me over#the pharmacy keeps pushing back the date for getting my t (should have had it 3 weeks ago. did not happen.) and I might end up having to pa#nearly Two Hundred Dollars for i dont even know how much of a supply bc of the fucked insurance thing.#And I cant even talk to my therapist about any of this bc my old schedule wont work anymore but I cant get in touch with the office to#see what other openings they may have. and some of the weird nebulous resentment-inducing stuff with my old friends is coming back bc#I hung out with one of them recently and it somehow it Still hurts like a fresh wound despite how often I tell myself Im resigned to being#treated the way I am. I barely have time to spend with the friends I do still have pleasant relationships with so I cant even talk through#any of it like that. and to round it all off my dysphoria has gotten so agonizing of late bc i finally had hope i would be on hrt#but. gestures at earlier topic. my hopes of that are being quickly and brutally slaughtered so.#its just. like genuinely what is the point of any of it. how is This what my life is supposed to be. I know I dont deserve very much#but surely I havent sinned so terribly as to earn misery like this.#and I'm not even strong enough of will to *** about it. pathetic really#I just want one day to feel even neutral abt being alive without having my feet swept from under me by some new unbearable Thing developmen
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sometimes people online are like "wow can you believe that people who write professionally and rely on selling books to pay rent will think about the marketability of a book before they dedicate several months to writing it, to make sure it's a worthwhile investment of time and a good step for their career at this particular moment"
and it's like yeah hate to break it to you but it's almost like writing for a job is slightly different to writing as a hobby and sometimes you DO have to weigh up whether it's likely to help you pay the bills before you commit to a project
#also i can guarantee those authors are not writing books they hate just to make money#they are weighing up different ideas they've got and working out which one is mostly likely to sell right now#and prioritising that#when you write as a hobby you can spend five years writing the book of your heart#when you write as a job you'll have a couple of months to produce a proposal and samples that will sell#or you just won't get paid next year#you have to change how you think about stories
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guys i don't wanna ever hear you say you hate your writing when booktok exists. every time you say you hate your writing an angel loses its wings or wtv they say
#nah like when i used to hate my writing a couple of weeks ago (LMFKJSHDFJK) i remembered theres published authors that hav done worse so#n are the standard on tiktok and suddenly WE UP !#GET YO PSSY UP GET YO MONEY UP (write and love it even if its imperfect in Your eyes its not in mine <3)#so i have stopped hating mine n idgaf anymore this is a free hobby im not even getting paid why should i care abt what ppl may like#its not a job lmfao#give me money then we can talk abt how its good or bad#sora.txt
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One of the quickest ways I can tell whether someone American has written a fic about UK key workers / government workers is if they have someone say that they "used up all their sick days".
#Paid leave is limited to a certain amount of time a year#and you have to ask for it before the roster is done and finalized#but even low ranking pay bands get at least a few weeks#but paid sick leave does not “run out” or “get used up”#instantly took me out of the fic headspace though it is not the fault of the author#it's just a dead give away#that or anyone refusing an ambulance because of how much it costs#your PAID sick leave might run out but that would take (going off someone I know's experience) about six months on reduced pay#plus a transitional period at lower pay still#before you get on sick leave no pay#there is no way if someone faked being sick without getting caught for five days you would have “used it all up”#character: cannot take off work despite being sick as shit bc I went to a con for five days and used up my sick leave for it#me: buddy buddy no just take some of your paid leave in advance or swap shifts why risk ending up in hot water for faking illness#me: also five days is about how much you have before you need a doctor to certificate you as needing to be off longer than that#sure it makes for good whump / let me take care of you fic fodder but like... no#immediately takes me out#about fandom#about fanfics
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I've been reading your Sid/Geno fics and loving them, and then found your tumblr and was absolutely delighted to hear that you've written some profic as well (I have requested all of them from my library!) I'm sorry to hear your current WIP is giving you trouble, sending good vibes your way (and some hockey magic, if it is a hockey/hockey-adjacent work!)
Love to hear that you're getting them from the library!!! That's the entire reason I pulled them from Kindle Unlimited. Lol the WIP is unbearable MM sci-fi with at least three complicated subplots in addition to the main romance arc... my ambitions routinely exceed my talent. Someday I will figure out how to make all the pieces fit together.
#idk how traditional publishing works#but fyi indie authors still get paid for library borrows#I love libraries
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naming one of my new icons 221b and feeling arthur conan doyle do a backflip in his grave.
#( ooc. ) OUT OF CIGS.#why yes mr ac/dc that is correct! there Is no escape from your legacy :)#i did a powerpoint night on that man's belief in fairies and how much he hated the fame of sherlock holmes lmao#the fact that he only became one of the best-paid authors of his time bc he was trying to keep publishers from buying his holmes stories is#one of my Favorite fun facts#get rich idiot
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bad week
#logbook#if this is how the spring is going to be. . .welcome evil sage to existence lol#today ive just come to terms with being blamed for shit no matter what so im not stressing over 401 trees#but. im also rly irritated and pissed off with how its like 'you HAVE authority' oh i do????? what. why are you telling me this a year#after ive been here. . .taking deep breaths and just. i dont get paid enough for this shit lol
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trying not to think about how the publishing market in australia is dead for fantasy novels and to get sales i should submit the manuscript to a british/american agent but if thats the case what the fuck is the point of me doing uni in aus and trying to network and if it gets good sales on the other side of the world how the fuck am i even gonna interact with it or help promote it when i live in AUSTRALIA
#i go to the best uni in the country but it’s literally going to get me jackshit#being a successful author is literally half luck and the rest a mix of pre existing fame and talent#just finish the book first just finish the book first just finish the book forst fuckkkk#all my backup plan jobs are jobs i hate 💀 i barely even like writing but i’d do it either as a job or a hobby so might as well get paid#dont get me started how most of the writing competitions here exploit identity trauma-#-bcuz those are the only pieces that get rewarded 😭 so twisted and sick hate this lyfeeee#like wdym i also have to do social media marketing for my own works?? thats a WHOLE OTHER JOB WHAT THE FUCK#how am i supposed to do anything else then 🧍♀️#being a reader is so much more fun than being a writer. this is such a flop.#not hp#rant#flop era#rewriting
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A writer friend told me something that broke my heart a little bit today; they're going to quit publishing their fanfic.
My instant thought was that they had been trolled or attacked or that something terrible had happened in their life because this person is so passionate about their writing. It wasn't any of that. Engagement with their works has been going down, as it has for many of us. Comments are like gold dust a lot of the time, and just looking through the historical comment counts on old fics on ao3 demonstrates this trend very clearly. It was not simply the comments dropping off which caused them to decide to stop posting, however.
My friend came across a discord server for their fandom (I should point out here that their fandom interest and mine diverged a couple of years ago, we stay in touch but don't currently read each other's posts because I'm not into their fandom and they would rather gouge their eyes out with a wooden spoon than read anything Star Wars) and specifically to share fic in that fandom. They joined, because we all love a good fic rec, only to discover that their latest multichapter fic, which has almost no comments and very few kudos, is being hotly discussed in this server as one of the best stories ever. Not one of these people has bothered to say this to them on the fic. When they asked, none of participants could see the point in telling the author of the fic they apparently loved so much that they love it.
This discovery has absolutely destroyed my friend's love of sharing fic. They share because they love seeing other people's enjoyment, and fic writers do that through comments and kudos/reblogs/likes because we don't get paid. There is no literary critic writing a blog post/article about how amazing the story is for us to copy and keep/frame. There is no money from royalties. All we have are the words of the people reading our works.
Those people on that server could have taken five minutes of the time they spent gushing about how amazing my friend's story was to other people and used it to tell the one person guaranteed to want to hear that praise how much they loved it. They could have taken a moment to express their opinion to the person who spent hours upon hours plotting, writing, editing, and posting those chapters. Instead, they deprived my friend of thing that keeps them sharing their writing, and in the process have killed their love of it. My friend now feels used and unmotivated.
I won't be sharing a link to their fic, they said I could share their experience but not their identity. I know they plan to post one final chapter. I know they intend to express their hurt at being excluded from the praise for the thing they created, and I know they intend to announce that as a consequence they will not be posting for a long while, if at all.
So please, I beg you, don't hide your love of a story from the writer. It's just about the only thing we have.
#fanfiction#fanfic#ao3 writer#ao3 fanfic#writing is hard#fanfic writing#writer stuff#archive of our own#ao3#this isn’t about me#my stuff still has great interaction from readers#although I would never say no to more#but please please please don't hide your enjoyment from us#they feed the gremlins in our heads which give us the stories
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crazy how fanfic authors drop the most beautiful and gorgeous pieces of work ever, leaving you speechless and sobbing at three in the morning as you quietly contemplate the masterpiece you just read
and they don’t get paid for it they just do it because they’re having fun and they want to share their joy with you
like I would literally die for all of you fanfic authors out there reblog to swear your allegiance to fanfic authors
#fanfic#fanfics#fandom#fandoms#fanfic authors#fanfiction#fanfiction authors#reading fanfiction#ao3#ao3 writer#ao3 fanfic
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#Today the boss decided to change out the sale table in the middle of the day without any warning whatsoever#then she jumped down my throat about my attitude when I expressed my surprise by saying ‘right now? where are we going to put it all?’#(for context: we have a tiny back room. I have been trying to bend the laws of physics for months to get the overstock to fit in it)#to me it was a non-issue. I was going to carry out whatever she wanted anyway because. she’s the boss.#like I’m just the peon. what the fuck am I gonna do? Say no??#but I’m apparently ‘always questioning her’ and I ‘think I can do it better than her’ and#she’s ‘been in the business longer than I’ve been alive’ (false)#she was literally lecturing me like I was some child that needed scolding. and I couldn’t leave the back room to go do what she asked#because she was blocking the way. because our back room is TINY.#I took a second to cool off after it happened and waited for the store to empty out before apologising#like I actually tried to say ‘I’m sorry it wasn’t my intention to question your efficacy as a businesswoman’#but she just kept cutting me off every time I tried to get through the apology. wouldn’t even accept or acknowledge the apology#just ‘NOPE. NO. IT’S OVER. IT’S DONE. NO HARD FEELINGS. NO GRUDGES’#oh??? no grudges??? sure sounds like she’s been holding a grudge against me for saying anything that she feels is questioning her authority#apparently this has 'been a problem for a while' but she's been 'letting it slide'#like. um. Maybe? she should have taken me aside and. talked to me about it? LIKE AN ADULT??#Before letting it get so bad that she blows up in my face about it??#like she was actually *yelling* at me in that back room.#this kind of blowup doesn’t just happen to people who let shit roll off their back like water off a duck#how the fuck can I trust that she isn’t just harbouring some other grudge that’s going to blow up in my face randomly without warning now??#you want attitude hon? you don’t even know what attitude is#if I’m gonna be vilified for being surprised and having opinions then I’m just gonna start acting like a fucking cartoon henchman at work#I mean. I’m not paid enough to think. so I’ll just let her make al’ the decisions. even the little ones.#WHADDA YOU WANT ME TA DO BOSS?#I DUNNO BOSS WHADDA YOU TINK I SHUD DO?#WHATEVA YOU SAY BOSS#HEY BOSS CAN I GO PEE NOW BOSS#WHERE DO I GO PEE BOSS?#no fucken grudges huh?#thanks for the new grudge boss. I'll be keeping this one for a loooonnnnng time
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i might be getting slightly fed up of mean-spirited posts about authors, idk if you could tell
#roughly 80% of my friends are authors at this point due to the circles i move in#and i've worked as a secondary school librarian and as a childrens+teens bookseller#so i have a particular knowledge of YA as a category#which is why i also get tired of seeing all the thoughtful creative work being done in that category#swept aside and denigrated by people who've read like two bestsellers and no other recent YA#just. fuck off#okay? please. people are working their asses off to get good books in the hands of teens#AND YES there are bad books and yes there are annoying trends and all of that#but that is not the fault of the category#(genuinely: it's in all categories#trends just move faster in YA because the audience ages out so things cycle more than they do in adult)#also when all your friends are authors you see first hand how broke they are#working 40 hours a week to make 10k/yr#and then people online call them greedy for wanting to be paid
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