#hori making all the theories come true

[todomitoukei]

Geten being related to Rei, Endvr continuing to be useless, Touya having an ice quirk and Mama Rei coming in to steal Endvrs title as Number One Hero save her boy

[smallmightsupremacy]

Izuku isn't losing his arms and here's why:

Okay so I know that we're all freaking out over that one manga panel, but we really shouldn't be.

Deku isn't going to lose his arms. It's all in his head.

Just stay with me.

First and foremost, look at the reactions from the characters when they join the battlefield. Specifically Aizawa:

What about this screams 'one of my students just lost both of his arms and may not end up having a future as a hero anymore?'

You would think that if Hori were to really go through with Izuku losing his arms, he would put more emphasis on the characters' reactions to make it more impactful, right?

To further reinforce this idea, we also need to consider the significance of Izuku's hands in Katsuki's arc. Whether you view their relationship as romantic or not, you can't deny that Izuku's hands holds significance to Katsuki. It represents the time when their relationship first fell apart, and I think in order to call their relationship fully 'healed' and complete Katsuki's growth, he's going to need to accept Izuku's hand again.

I mean, look at how foreshadowed the handhold is. There's no way they're not going to be holding hands by the end of the series. It's a necessity at this point.

And yes, you can argue that they already did hold hands, but to me that handhold didn't seem like the official one. It wasn't as impactful as it could've been. Now, while I'm not saying that the handhold didn't have any emotion to it, I feel like it's impact got a little diluted by Katsuki's revival. It wasn't the main focus. I think that the proper handhold is going to come later and be in it's own moment.

And, I mean, Izuku kind of needs his hands for that to happen.

So now you may be wondering, if Izuku hasn't lost his arms, then how do you explain what's happening to him right now?

Well, like I said earlier, it's all in his head. I think it's AFO fucking around with his mind.

I think AFO is somehow manipulating the vestige world and OFA mental connection he was with Izuku to make him hallucinate that he's lost his arms. He wants Izuku to crumble, and what better way to do that than to convince him that his dream is over and that there's nothing he can do?

I feel like this has also been foreshadowed in a way too. Take a look at this picture:

This image already foreshadowed Ochako getting stabbed in the chest, so perhaps it's also foreshadowing Izuku's fate?

The knife is in his head, so perhaps it's hinting at him being affected psychologically?

Also, the idea that it's only those that are connected to the vestige realm that can see the illusions that AFO is planting would be a great way to get Katsuki to be a part of the final fight too.

We already know that's he's going to be involved somehow. Hori himself said that the ending for mha was going to be better than the ending for Hero's Rising (the one Kats and Izu share OFA), and what better way to improve that than have Katsuki come save him from the mind fuckery?

I also think that finally having Izuku and Katsuki fight side by side has been foreshadowed for a long time, and if that really were to happen, then there's no better time for that than the final fight.

Also, Katsuki's really the only one that can save Izuku right now if my theory were to be true. He's the only character that fits the very specific requirements that Izuku needs (being connected to the vestige realm, and also having a willingness to save/help Izuku).

Speaking of, Katsuki being connected to the vestige realm was a shock for us all, and it doesn't make sense for why Horikoshi would show us such ground-breaking information if he didn't plan on using it later. This has to be the later. There's no other case where I can see Katsuki's connection to the vestige realm being implemented into the story again other than this.

So here's the TL;DR:

Izuku is being mindfucked by AFO and Katsuki is going to be the one that brings him back to reality

[marunalu]

Hey guys

I need to make a quick update of my whereabouts and why I havent answered any asks or messages lately. But first, I want to apologiese to everyone who worried about me. It wasnt my intention to make you worry, the last few weeks (months actually) were just quite stressfull for me and Im barely online anymore. I want you to know that you guys dont need to worry and Im really sorry if you did. Life is just quite difficult for me in the moment. I bother with some health issus right now (its NOT life threatening though!) both physical and mental and I have to take a few meds every day. These meds make me very tired and unmotivated to do anything Im not forced to do. I also had a lot of doctor appointments in the last few weeks and need to visit my doctor regulary. Again, its nothing life threatening but it tires me out and I dont feel very well in the moment. Most of the time I just want to be left alone so I can rest. Plus my private life is also quite messy right now and that doesnt help to increase my health. Since my health issues also have mental consequences I decided to stay away from any social media as much as possible, because the internet can be a toxic and stressful enviroment and I have realized that I feel worse if I lure to much on social media sites. I even try to avoid world news because they make me feel depressed. Even writing this short post is difficult for me, because I dont want to think or talk about my problems.

So again, Im very VERY sorry that I worried you guys, but it also warms my heart to see how many of you asked about my whereabouts and if Im okay! Thats so very sweet of you all! ❤️ And just a quick comment about mha. Im not lying to you, but right now Im not really invested in it anymore. The manga turned into a big dissapointment for me and I pretty much lost all my interest in it. I will still check out the last chapter and Im still positive about dfo to be revealed in the last chapter. But I already mentioned in the past that I dont think anymore that dfo will have an satisfying conclusion. It would be hilarious if it turns out the afo clone theory is indeed true though, because I was JOKING when I came up with it! I think its possible that hori will not confirm the theory right out, but just give very strong clues and hints like giving us a glimpse of the holes in hisashis hands. I heard, in a recent interview hori mentioned that he likes to leave things vague so people can come up with their own interpretations and conclusions, which I cant say is a smart move. Still, Im positive about dfo. I will eventually drop a post about the last chapter and talk about dfo if it turns out canon!

You are still welcome to send me asks but it will take me time to answer them. Im also not sure what I will do with this blog when mha is done, since its a mha/dfo centered blog. Eventually I just start a new one at one point.

A lot of hugs to you guys and see ya 🥰

[thr0wnawayy]

A Thought, A Theory

I'll probably make a more indepth post or may just update this one once the offical translations get dumped (which means pictures!), but I have a bit of a crack theory that chapter 430 isn't as real as we've been led to believe.

(As for when this actually takes place, that's up to you but I like to imagine the start of his third year marks the beginning of his mental decline)

This mostly comes from some inconsistencies in regards to the hero rankings and some other stuff

Its stated that Best Jeanist and Endeavor are still active. With the exception of Jeanist, this should not be possible for obvious reasons.

2. Something feels off visually and narrative-wise, I don't know how to describe this other than everything looks too ideallic. Like it feels too sanitized and sterile, this probably because Hori ripped the last bits of life this story had away. But hush. Also Aoyama is there didn't he leave UA? (and Japan)

3. Apparently people forgot the connection between Endeavor and Shoto. Normally this would be a good thing as Shoto would be able to become his own person.

This falls flat when you remember that also includes people forgetting the reason and happenings behind Shoto's existence, it just feels to good to be true. Everyone overlooks the bad and gets tunnel vision over any semblance of good.

Now you may be wondering, so what's going on.

Well, Midoriya's having a breakdown fantasy to cope with the fact that he won't be becoming a hero due to the loss of his quirk.

It sounds crazy but consider the following.

Midoriya subconsciously knows the way he's been treated was wrong. This manifests within the escapists fantasy in Bakugo's drop in the rankings + the attitude surrounding him (as well as his damaged hand never fully healing)

He meets a kid who just so happens to be in a near exact same position as he once* was (and still is to an extent). One could take this as his mind's way of trying to cope and heal itself, by having Midoriya do what he does best and help others, henceforth working though his trauma by using the kid as a stand in.

*Even the kid's "bully" seems to be a warped version of Bakugo (perhaps this is how Midoriya tries to fool himself into believing how it was)

We see Kota. I believe that here, Kota serves as what Midoriya thinks he could have been had he not failed. Kota is the idealized version of Midoriya here, the unobtainable.

I believe the abandonment/limited contact from his classmates to be based in reality, unfortunately. Whether it was by choice or forced by their PR to preserve their images (can't be seen around the "freaks" for too long, now can we?). The lie may come in the form of busy schedules.

(either it's what Midoriya tells himself or he's been told, you can't tell me they can't just make a group chat or video call. At least a High School Reunion)

The Mech Suit is a massive cope, it's the dying whimper of Midoriya's childish hope that All Might will save the day. This time there's no magic quirk, no garrish mech suit, no plot twist.

No. There's only Midoriya and the consequences of his, his classmates and hero societies actions. It doesn't matter how shiny and seamless the illusion, how sweet the lie.

You can't hide the blood.

[chandralia]

I always find it funny whenever I see antis say things like "I want bakugo to stay dead / I want krbk or izuocha to get more screentime instead cause they're healthier than bkdk" and when Hori does the opposite of that they go on saying "Hori is a bad writer, hori is an abuse apologist etc". Like they're the equivalent of "who does the author think he is?"

this image sfhjdhh

I feel like people don’t understand that bkdks are just as shocked at half the things we’ve gotten. Even when someone makes a theory (that’s rooted in bkdk’s dynamic) and it comes true, we’re like wait what??? because it always feels like something pulled right out of a fic 🫣

ANYWAYS we’re all on this ride together, all we’re doing is shipping our ships and enjoying whatever Hori writes, and if someone’s not enjoying it that’s okay ! If they don’t drop the story, there’s clearly still something pulling them in and they should focus on that.

as for people wanting Bakugo to stay dead LMAOOOOO

[bibibbon]

Hi, I'm back. And with a panel.

Behold Mr. Sexyman.

Jokes aside, Shig is saying to us, readers, he is empty. He is shell and later we know AFO will wear Shig.

He is admitting that.

He is aware of that and....does nothing. If we can (and should) criticize Izu for his lack of action in reach his dream...we should also criticize Shig here.

Izu, in part 1 is sort excused as he was a kid who had absolutely no one.

Shiga? He knew how empty he is and...nope. did nothing.

Why Hori put this dialogue?

No idea but I know he doesn't like Shig and Izu

Hi @mikeellee 👋

You know its even more sad and ironic that shigaraki stays as a static character and doesn't develop past this hollow empty controlled shell of himself. Even in the end shigaraki was always a puppet. He was a puppet who was given the name tomura meaning grief and shackled to that. He never ended up developing or getting a well developed goal in the end it was all for nothing and it's terrible.

There is so much missing from Shigaraki like what is his true goal? Is it just simply destruction? If it is then what would he achieve? Okay say you destroy everything then what? Can you really build a world for villains from nothing? Is there a point in the destruction?

No, there isn't. Shigaraki's destruction doesn't properly develop into the goal of taking down the hpsc and then have that evolve into helping villains or being a hero for them. Yes shigaraki says in passing that his plan is to take down the status quo but then what? His plan of destroying the status quo then NOT replacing it just caused more carnage, destruction and chaos. Shigaraki allows the league to have a world for them but who would want a world that has nothing?

Heck shigaraki wasted the MVA. Shigaraki had a whole underground society and all of that went down the drain. The MVA had houses,hospitals,schools it should of been painted as a proper underground society that has life thriving in there and had major company influences like deternet.

With all of this shigaraki could of used this to his power and created something or he could of been urged to create something. Izuku could of easily been brought into this arc and we could of seen izuku and tenko's contrasting ideals play out in the mini mva society. We could of seen izuku come to the conclusion that the current status quo harms people and he acknowledges his own hurt while shigaraki learns to harbour his anger to destroy and create learning and appreciating the duality of man.

We could of had a way more intriguing arc than included the heroes and villains in the mva without making it into a war (not this early in the series anyway)

The whole "I want to be a hero for the villains" thing by shigaraki can work in theory but the execution was horrible. Shigaraki doesn't fully grow into a leader or a proper leadership role in the first place. His relationship with the league isn't one of a weird found family, its not strongly developed as it should be.

There were multiple perfect chances like the overhaul arc to have shigaraki's authority be questioned to have him be a contrast to overhaul and have to gain his comrades trust and respect especially after he sacrificed three league members like tools in the training camp arc making the other members feel dispensable. Shigaraki and the league needed more interactions (meaningful ones) where Shigaraki learns more about the members individually and they learn more about him overall coming to appreciate and care for one another.

[itsnothingofinterest]

If I may get out one last post for the year, something I thought of when answering an ask recently is that I think I've got why I’m not getting behind the next generation of heroes surpassing their predecessors. The manga’s still trying to make those predecessors so inspiring and right in what they do that it’s stopped acknowledging the flaws that the students are supposed to be surpassing. Like, sure Hawks had his "contributions" to the 1st war; but the manga will still let him get a few cool one-liners off on AFO. He's still presented as someone for the kids like Tokoyami to aspire too. As a result, the students end up doing all the same things as those inspiring current pros would do instead of surpassing them.

I mean I recently saw it said that Deku was surpassing All Might by doing the one thing he couldn’t; saving Tomura. But did All Might not do that because he was incapable, or did he just…get forced into retirement first? We know he wanted to save Tomura. Do we really have reason to say he couldn’t besides not being given the opportunity, and if so, is that opportunity really the edge Deku has over All Might?

And Shoto and Endeavor both conclude their arcs trying to save Touya. They fail at this if you ask me but Shoto at least stops him from exploding…but his quirk is the only reason he manages that. That really ends up being the difference his contribution to the Todoroki finale has over his father's, he had an ice quirk to help cool Touya.

The students have even ended up participating in the really morally grey stuff we'd criticize the pros for, at least on the professional side; like using a hospital to hold Kurogiri, brainwashing Machia, and Deku still seems the only one who wasn't trying to murder Tomura in the Sky Coffin. And they get the same justifications of “but this villain’s so dangerous” and “the greater good” thrown around for them like when the current pros got criticized for doing stuff like this. Which tracks when, like I said, those criticisms didn't stop Endeavor from being shown as a good guy or Hawks from getting a cool one-liner or two off on AFO. Why would Class 1A avoid being like this?

There’s just not a lot of sense of actual improvement going around, I'm finding; the kids are only doing marginally better because the story lets them in this instance (and often in ways not replicable or applicable to their future heroics: I don't think Ochako can date every Toga Himiko-type she'll come across after all. So they're not beating any "treating the League as one-time exceptions" allegations either). Otherwise, they act exactly the same; Deku does what AM would do and (baring Ochako) the rest of the kids do what any general pro hero would do in their circumstance. In the end it leaves me feeling like instead of surpassing the pros, they’re simply ending up standing by their side as equals ready to be the next verse, same as the first. Everything will go back to normal, good and bad, including everything that brought us here in the first place.

It's like the series is now going "C'mon, the old pros weren't so bad, right? All Might wasn't so bad, right?" And strictly speaking that's even correct, All Might wasn't bad. In fact as I went over in that ask, he was frankly the best; the best any hero could ever be. It makes sense how Deku struggles with surpassing him in terms of behaviour while striving the same goals the same way. But All Might also wasn't enough. So if Deku's just acting as an extension rather than an improvement, I don't think he'll be enough either.

And I guess that’s the main problem I’m hoping gets addressed by this series in the new year (or if my part two theory comes true, then in the years to come after Hori takes a long break).

[oshiawaseni]

Trails of Love Hori's been paving down in the build up for the series' ending

Part II: Decoding the love story being told through other characters

Part One | II. Compress | Part Two -> KiriMina

.•° ✿ 2. Gentle & La Brava ೋღ

Gentle and La Brava are classic portrayals of the archetype known in Japan as "baka couple" - a couple that dotes on each other and are very openly affectionate. By juxtaposing the baka couple with Izuku and Katsuki, who keep their true feelings for each other close to their chests, Horikoshi is highlighting the tension and ambiguity going on between bkdk even more.

This tale is the evolution of my feelings towards Gentle/La Brava.

Their introduction was, very... unexpected. Izuku had just finished his tough fight against Overhaul. Nothing much was going on at the time and it had been quite a while since Izuku and Katsuki had interacted with each other.

Shortly after Gentle and La Brava's introduction to the series, BkDk development ramps up and Izuku's "Control your heart" character arc begins. Isn't that interesting..?

The very first time I watched Gentle/La Brava's story in Season Four, something seemed so... misplaced about them.

Their vibe felt filler-ish and because of the school festival side plot going on, their appearance was more like a filler inside of a filler. Yet, Horikoshi had indeed written them into BNHA. These two characters felt so strange when compared with Hori's usual characters. Even downright silly. They were criminals, but they weren't even that bad..? Tea? U.A? They loved each other?

I just couldn't quite work out their purpose in the grand scheme of things and I quickly gave up trying to.

Izuku has no regard for himself? He's crazy? Don't get entangled with him? These lines scream out KATSUKI KATSUKI KATSUKI and how he had felt towards Izuku for years. It seems Hori projected Katsuki's issues with Izuku onto LB/G over 100 chapters before Katsuki verbalised them himself. Going back, now knowing they were written for BkDk is a new experience in and of itself.

Around the time of Katsuki's death, a few theories were floating around on twitter, saying that Gentle and La Brava were put in the manga to highlight what's going on with BkDk. At the time of hearing these theories, I never expected they'd be making a return to the story in the final arc, it had broke my brain thinking about them the first time, so I didn't give this theory too much thought... but when they showed up a second time, in the final act, I really wish I had.

Because as I was reading the things they were now saying the second time around, and being more open to this theory about them, all I could see in my head were visions of everything Izuku and Katsuki had ever done for each other. It had finally clicked:

God, Hori did invent these characters to be the voice of BkDk.

These were the new lines in question that sent my head spiralling about the magnificent truth of this theory:

"Are you still fighting to protect someone's smile?!" It made me think of Katsuki, how Izuku was fighting for Katsuki's sake! To keep him safe, so he'll come back to him, energetic, alive, red eyes shining again with the passion that Izuku loves so much, and his face brimming with confidence and that wonderful, infectious smile of his that tells, no, shouts to everyone that he knows he's a winner.

"My only happiness was the thought of you at my side" Immediately made me think of Katsuki's last moments and thinking of Izuku when he knew, he just KNEW he was going to die. And his thoughts of Izuku - wanting to be the hero that Izuku loves, so he could feel that love when he needed it most, these feelings surrounded and filled his entire heart like a comforting, soft, warm blanket. These feelings are what got him through everything until the end.

This one made me cry because Izuku was his happiness at his very end. And I finally saw Horikoshi, the mangaka who cares about BkDk more than anyone! I saw what he was doing!

"The time we spent apart made our love even stronger." was like a ray of hope for me because every time they had a separation, BkDk's love grew even stronger. It meant that this separation caused by Kacchan's death would some day have an end too, where afterwards, they would be free to love each other for all the world to see.

Can you see it? Katsuki and Izuku were always meant to end up together, and La Brava and Gentle were meant to help show readers what they feel, without BkDk necessarily saying it themselves.

If Izuku's love of Kacchan is what got him a power up every time (OFA, Black Whip, Danger Sense), then this ultimate power of La Brava's must be the same for Katsuki too. Because it is his love for Izuku that gave him a quirk awakening. (And there's another great theory that their deep bond and immense love for each other is what connected Katsuki to Izuku's OFA, as well. So Gentle La Brava are connected via Love... and Katsuki and Izuku are connected via love!)

Let's say from the very beginning of BNHA, Horikoshi's idea was to gradually bring BkDk closer and closer, adding in little details here and there that don't make much sense on their own and are never expanded upon. Because he couldn't make their feelings known in the early/mid game... but he wanted to have them romance-ready at the end game.

Hori would have had a basic outline for the ways he was going to develop BkDk's relationship and he knew he needed a lot of 3rd party help to really spell out their relation to each other in the future. So Hori created Gentle and La Brava for this singular purpose. They exist to help verbalise Katsuki and Izuku's unsaid feelings! It's a perfect marriage between Gentle/La Brava's words and BkDk's actions.

And once people realised that Hori was doing this, they could then go back to the dialogues and connect the dots with other BkDk scenes as well, for example, Katsuki's abduction by the LOV in season three.

In a scene where Katsuki is taken away, Izuku's emotional pain is palpable. His deafening scream shocks not only his classmates, but a lot of viewers too. Because of his deeply emotional reaction and later scenes displaying symptoms of PTSD, this seemingly one-sided affection that Izuku has towards Katsuki, raised so many questions about their relationship for me. And as the series progressed, the mystery of Izuku's powerful feelings and need for Katsuki only deepened further. It feels like La Brava's dialogues were written into the series, just to verbalise what these overwhelming moments were truly like for Izuku.

This can't be just a coincidence. There are just too many parallels between BkDk and Gentle/La Brava to even count.

If you've read my twitter thread on the Gentle/La Brava vs BkDk parallels and how incredibly similar Izuku and La Brava's backgrounds are, but you're still sceptical about this theory, then going on this journey of Hori's trails with me may help convince you that Hori was going to make BkDk canon no matter what and that he's been using other characters to narrate the feelings of BkDk's actions.

In the future, I hope to show you how instrumental Gentle and La Brava were in expressing Horikoshi's vision.

Because there are more layers to Gentle and La Brava's arc than a damn rainbow cake. And I'm still not finished with these two yet, but that is a topic for a later post. Next up, KiriMina!

Part Two -> KiriMina

II. Compress Back to Part One

[anti-katsuki-lounge]

What I'm going to say may sound "conspiracy theory" thing but I do think is true. We do complain about Izu admiring the PoS or how Hawks could even still look up to Endy.

My theory?

Bc if Izu could have said bk is a huge PoS ...it would cast a domino effect in the story.

In a story where Izu says "Bk is shit" hoe come people would think Endy is cool?

In a story where Izu says "fuck off, bk you are my abuser not friend" how shoto would be friends with bk?

In a story where Izu says "shut up bk" how people could look at Aizawa and think he is a good sensei? It would force students - and readers- to see Aizawa as a biased sensei.

In a story where Izu says "Endy is shit" how could Nighteye's humiliation still happen and not be punished?

How Mina and Kiri could even tolerate BK?

Hori who is riding BK's dick...cant have that...so everyone praises the PoS. It open soor for people to think Endy is cool...maybe Nighteye is not so bad(many fics have "parental Nighteye" as tag. Eww) and so and on.

It would make sense for Izu to detest BK...but this is not what Hori wants...he is fine ruining his MC and story for a detestable character who is useless.

This doesn’t sound like a conspiracy theory at all. If Hori had actually had Izuku stand up to Katsuki, he’d have to rework his story so that the other abusers would be seen in a harsher light too. This would’ve worked wonders for him tackling the themes of abuse but sadly Hori’s Bakuboner caused him to be too much of a coward to go down this route.

[doodlegirl1998]

I never liked the Traitor twist. If I were given a chance to rewrite it, here's how I would've done it.

Instead of a traitor, it would instead be a person with a quirk to travel as a shadow, that would explain how they would be able to get the information for the USJ and the Training Camp. and Izuku could even have a bit of a meetup with them who blackmails him into keeping quiet about who they are or else they'll reveal he's the reason All Might retired.

They're a spy for hire, charging a hefty price to spill/keep secrets to villains. As being in the shadows can help with learning various things about people, no matter how big or small.

And to top it all off... they were previously a student of Aizawa's class that was expelled for "not having enough potential" Thus they couldn't face their family and ran away from home, becoming a villain.

This would show the effects of Aizawa's expulsion and how it's not as clear cut as he thinks it is, that it actually has negative consequences and where his students might end up. This would make Aizawa think twice and realize that his expulsions did more harm than good and now it's come back to hit him with the cold reality.

Hi @theloganator101 👋,

That is an excellent rewrite of the Traitor twist because how Hori wrote it in canon it just doesn't make sense.

1) Yuuga should have been caught way before now. He doesn't have invisibility to conceivably sneak around the way that Toru does. And UA should have security cameras.

2) He is one of the bottom students of the class. An argument could be made that he was hiding some of his skill set but Hori doesn't set that up (unlike that moment in the sports festival when he did for Kaminari) beyond occaisional fourth wall breaks.

3) What even is Aoyama doing as traitor? I've seen @justatalkingface talk about how they would have utilised the traitor plot and it is so scary and narrative breaking how AFO could have used this effectively yet he just didn't... For some reason. (A DFO argument could be made here, yet even if this theory turns out being true, AFO has no reason not to go after All Might, the rest of the staff and students properly.)

4) How is he getting Info to AFO directly without the staff / students with hearing quirks finding out? This just is a plot hole. Perhaps Yuuga didn't call, perhaps he passed on coded messages to his parents, perhaps... Nothing. This is giving Hori too much credit. You can't tell me Nedzu didn't monitor communications of everyone when they were in the dorms via the schools wifi / network. Nedzu should think something is suss especially if a student is talking with their parents in code.

5) The parallels with Izu are perhaps the only positive thing about this. But even that is utilised poorly. Izuku isn't allowed to reflect on his own past once when this Aoyama situation should have opened a lot of old wounds for him. Izuku wasn't allowed to think of the grey area of this situation once he brushed off Mic's concerns that they were all victims here along with Toru and Ojiro's hurt to tell Aoyama "you can still be a hero." While this is nice for Yuuga (since he was a traitor by force) it brushes off everyone elses feelings on the matter. Izuku has become more and more black and white as a character (and in his views) and this starkly highlights it.

Furthermore, your version where a villainous ex-student of Aizawa's with a shadow quirk is the cause of the traitor suspicions is much more interesting and plausible.

It would make more sense for them to be able to sneak around undetected.

It confronts Aizawa with the devastating impact of his teaching without any narrative cushioning.

It encourage Aizawa to grow as a teacher or quit after getting 1A through their first year.

This would tie the class closer together rather than tearing them apart and pitting members against each other (which is why I dislike the Izuku vs 1A fight along with how this Traitor arc was handled.)

It makes Nedzu look like less of a moron in general for the disbelief of Mic suggesting there is a traitor because he wouldn't be able to see any evidence of one in the cameras or student communications.

[sapphic-agent]

Really not sure what could be added here. But ok will try.

I kind hate when people say "Shig is the protagonist" bc...he really isnt. I would argue he is not really a character anymore. But a plot device.

Bk is the real mc in Hori's eyes.

But I want to talk about smth: ofa transfering vs afo tranfering.

(It may be dumb but is not dumber than canon)

Not sure if is true thanks to the pacing of the story, but assuming Shig was in the tank for 10 months to get a quirk he...frankly never needed. (What was the selling point here? "Shig going get more power" as if decay wasnt enough) while Izu trained for 10 months.

Shig was in a tube like a dead fish for 10 months.

Izu exercise himself for 10 months to be able to use the quirk.

How afo was transfer to Shig? Via soul?

Afo was shared by 8 people (before Izu enters) and had no real "parasite" effect. But afo does bc...????

We know nothing about afo the quirk or the person.

We know nothing about ofa the quirk and the person.

When afo wanted to steal Shig's body? Bc look I may be wrong but ...since the movies are canon, many others villains, had a small afo quirk and didnt endure "will steal your body" why Shig?

(Bc otherwise how Izu would saved him)

Not sure if I'm making sense. Its just those 2 quirks are so different and so similar...but at the same time we know nothing about it.

Also the inage I shared has the "completation in 70%" so...is afo being injected into his body? In his veins? FOR 10 MONTHS?

Again what was the selling point here? Yes, it does feel like Shig cheat (well he got his comeuppance here) but sorry nothing of this makes sense.

I guess I just want to vent a little bc those quirks are so central to the plot but at the same time we know nothing about. We know shit about yoichi and afo. It's all made up on the spot.

Thanks for the patience (I do like the contrast, in theory. Izu worked hard to gain his quirk as a good hero. Shig as a villain cheated but its Hori so...is all about bk)

Indeed, this whole thing was all over the place.

My assumption was that Garaki wasn't merely transferring AFO into Shigaraki's body, he was also physically and genetically modifying his body to be able to handle not only AFO (the quirk), but also host AFO (the potato). You're right to question how he's transferring the potato, however, because that really isn't explained. I assume that it's the ability of one of the potato's quirks, maybe a combination of a few, that allow them to do this. Or maybe it's because AFO is so connected and attached to his quirk (he's had it for like 200 years) that him and his quirk are one in the same at this point.

(The dreamscape thing is odd. Izuku only has access to it because it's part of his quirk. The potato having access to it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Unless he counts as a pass holder since it was his stockpiling quirk that was given to Yoichi and helped form OFA, but then whoever he stole it from would have been there too. Maybe this is the only way he can access the quirk since it's so unique? But that shouldn't be possible since OFA can't be stolen. And why was he only able to access it when he was inhabiting Shigaraki?)

I do think that the difference between OFA and AFO is that OFA at its course is the ability to be bestowed and inherited. Both the predecessor and successor are given a choice (presumably, if the user's DNA can't pass it down without their intention, then I reckon it can't be inherited unless the inheritor wants to inherit it). The potato can take any quirk form anyone and force it onto someone else. I think that's why it's more parasitic, a lack of consent.

I completely agree that Shigaraki didn't need AFO. He had just come into his own power and took control of an extremist organization with a ton of powerful quirk users at his disposal. Him wanting AFO when he had just done all that was counterintuitive.

I loved what him (and the entire LOV) were doing in Deika. They made season 5 for me (because the Endeavor Agency arc was shit), but you're right that he's just a plot device now. AFO taking him in and raising him to be independent as his own villain with his own allies was completely undermined by him trying to hijack Shigaraki's body

[dabistits]

what do u think about the reveal that afo was Behind Everything in shigaraki's life? and what was the point of it

i don't hate it or anything because shigaraki being manipulated by afo has been a very prominent part of his character from the beginning. the theory that afo had given tenko decay and that he was the suited guy who took tenko home at the beginning of his flashback was pretty well-established; after all, wasn't it way too convenient that afo just happened to pick up shimura tenko in the streets one day? there was also a panel where afo watched young!tomura and commented on how he was holding back decay's true power, meaning that afo himself knew the inner workings of decay and thus must have had it at some point. add on with how afo being ~behind everything~ is basically a meme with him at this point—the math does math.

for shigaraki's character alone, i don't think mastermind afo changes that much for me. i think a lot of pivotal aspects of his backstory still remain intact, like, afo didn't mind control kotaro into hitting his child, he didn't mind control people in the city to avoid tenko. i guess it makes the downfall of the shimuras seem less inevitable, but... as afo himself said he mostly just nudged things in a certain direction, people themselves still had to make their own choices. that includes shigaraki himself; it's understandable that afo's reveal shook him, but imo the way afo sees how things happened doesn't mean his interpretation is right. he's famous for underestimating and undervaluing people after all. for me, i see the majority of bnha, particularly post-kamino, as resulting from the decisions shigaraki makes as his own person and the relationship he has with the lov. in my mind, huge chunks of the middle and end of bnha were about shigaraki making something for himself and becoming the villains' hope despite afo's manipulation.

so while afo's reveal doesn't change how i feel about shigaraki, i do think the way it was handled was very unimpressive. it detracted from a very defining moment of shigaraki's character (coming to terms with his past and his current desires) without really giving him a way to reclaim that moment and reassert himself as a character. there was no space given for shigaraki to even really react to the reveal, and the final few chapters are overtaken again by afo, making the ending seem more focused on afo than shigaraki. given the foreshadowing i mentioned in the first paragraph, i believe hori had planned this backstory for a long time and wanted to make it known to the audience; however, i don't think he really thought through when and how to make the reveal. having it happen 5 chapters from the epilogue gave the reveal no room to breathe; it gets underplayed in favor of rushing along the finishing blow of the plot and makes it feel kinda like... what was the point? for a shigaraki enjoyer, it really feels like... he just learns this mindbending thing about his past and then he dies. shouldn't the character who learns something that totally changes their past in retrospect be given the time to contend with it??? but giving things no time to breathe is pretty much bnha staple at this point, so...

basically, i think the concept was fine, the execution was just lacking.

[autumn-foxfire]

Oh that. Yeah it's been a hot minute so your anons might have forgotten, but the villains never came back for Twice's corpse. It was a fear Hawks had yes, but remember this guy zoomed right back to clean up the corpse and blood. He knew for damn sure nobody found Twice. If Twice's body was missing he would've sounded an alarm about it, but it wasn't. He found the crime scene intact, and that's why as soon as he sees Toga use SPM he knew it was Dabi who must've done it, because he was the only one present and near the body. And I wonder if Hawks asking him all those questions was also partially to distract him from the body? Because he only started asking after Dabi said "with Twice around, my dream had a way better chance of coming true!" that would've made him fear Dabi realizing he could just take Twice's blood and give it to Toga. He was right too, but after he heard the League got grabbed by Machia, and found Twice's corpse undisturbed when Compress could've marble-d it, he must've thought it was safe.

What happened was that after Tokoyami left, and right before Machia grabbed the League, Dabi says in chapter 341 that that was the moment he nabbed some of Twice's blood. Idk what that anon is on, there was no blood taken from the Twice clone, it was all goop. Dabi's word choice is interesting, because he strictly says "original body" so I don't think Toga can use clone blood, or if she can, she just won't think to. She has a 30-40 minute then SPM is over.

And Hawks couldn't have found Ujiko's hideout no matter what he did. Because he only knew what PLF was planning, not what AFO and Ujiko were planning with freeing AFO's main body and making him healthy again. He had no involvement in the OFA-AFO plot bullshit, neither Shigaraki nor PLF knew about it either. It was all secret. And tbf, on Ujiko using the Double Clone idk if the heroes knew about that, but it's not important. He's captured, Miruko found the original, the Nomu with the quirk was killed, it caused absolutely zero issues for them and was cleaned up neatly. Hell, thanks to them finding the fake Ujiko before the real one, it led them to Ujiko's lab with Shigaraki's tank. Worked out fine in the end, it's not really something to bring up. I will say tho, the Jeanist revival is definitely some insanity we have no answers for. That's a fair complaint. The least Hori could've done is said the docs revived him, but he went and had Hawks say that he, personally revived Jeanist, and last I checked he wasn't a mad scientist capable of reverting Nomu death states. So what gives Hawks?!? As for finding him despite the cameras on his wings, I suppose he could've sent a feather to drag Jeanist's corpse out of the fridge or sweet talked Skeptic into shutting the cameras off for a bit to steal him. Or just taken the whole wings off and made it seem like he was chilling on the roof, facing one way while his wingless body zoomed in and out of the storage, before sneaking up behind his own wings at an angle the cameras couldn't see and carefully reattaching them.

Yeah, I thought that was what happened in regards to Hawks and Twice's body. Also it points towards Dabi's planning that not only did he go into the fight with a camera to film Twice's potential death, he also thought to bring something to store his blood just in case as well (yet this goes ignored by fandom because Dabi has to have been so broken up about his death...)

Sadly the anime never made Hawks finding Jeanist any clearer T-T In fact he was there in person for his rescue, something I don't really know how he accomplished with the cameras considering Hori had him be so careful when creating a code for the heroes. My guess is that he never really thought much about it even though he wanted Jeanist to be rescued and revived.

You're theory about how he removed his feathers to make Skeptic think he was somewhere is probably the soundest theory over how he succeeded. Makes you wonder why they kept them on his wings though when they should know that Hawks can remove them XD

Again, it probably wasn't Hori put much thought into.

[crepus]

Obsessed with the hot hates about the ending from anti bakugou's fans.

'The only good thing Bakugou did in the finally was drop in the rankings' IDK man, regardless of what I think of Bakugou, It's pretty cool he organized all of class A so they can buy Izuku a suit so he can live his dream.

'The villians are decreasing, so class A should have plenty of time' Most of them probably live in different cities now, have other projects they are working on (like Shoji and Uraraka), it's also stated that heroes do more things now, I'm sorry hori didn't spend all page count telling us in detail what everyone was doing, and that y'all don't believe anything Horikoshi states as true. Also they MUST have been very busy, considering they manage to make the same amount as all might's life savings in 8 years to buy Izuku his suit.

My favorite is the crack theory that everything is a dream bc they can't deal with the fact that Bakugou changed bsbsvsvshhz

Yall say you like Izuku and then don't want his dream to come true? want him to live in misery?

[marunalu]

I want to talk a little bit about the “Inko Shimura” theory and while Im not 100% convinced about it and there are not as many hints as with the dad for one theory, its not as impossible as some people seem to think. Remember there were almost no hints about the “Shirakumo is Kurogiri” theory and in the end it was true. This post is inspired by similar posts of @gentrychild​ and @psychomurderz​ and I will just list a few hints that support the theory.

First hint: All might says Inko reminds him of Nana.

Here All might tells Izuku that he “cant put his finger on it” why Inko reminds him of Nana. In the end he mentions they have the same hair, but that alone is clearly not the only reason why he feels like that. He is unsure himself. Of course Inkos motherly and protective nature could remind him of Nana too, but he doesnt mention that. And knowing Hori he didnt include this moment for nothing. There was by itself no reason why Hori should include this, if he doesnt want us to remember it later. And while I personally dont see much of a resemblance between Nana and Inko when it comes to their looks, in the bnha universe they seem to be similar, otherwiese All might wouldnt have mention that. 

If you look at them like that, you could indeed think they are related. To me personally its the weakest hint, because the only resemblance they have in my eyes are their hair style. But! Even if they dont look like each other that much, that doesnt debunk the theory, because for all we know Inko could come after her father/nanas husband. We dont know what the guy looks like and its very possible that Inko inheritet her features and colours from him, while Kotaro clearly comes more after his mother in appearance.

Second hint: the scarf.

Like the first hint this could be a complete coincidence, but Inko and Nana wear the same scarf. And I like to think that Nana left it with baby Inko, when she left her in the hospital for adoption/foster care.

Again, maybe its just nothing, but Hori could have choosen any pattern and motive on Inkos scarf, but he choose the same as for Nanas.

Third hint: Kotaros quirk.

You most likely think now “but he never showed what his quirk is”. Yeah, thats right... or is it? Look at this:

In the first panel on the left, we can see that Kotaro spotted a garden tool near him. Distance wise I would say its about 2 to 3 meters away from him, because we cant see it next to him on the picture in the middle. But in the very next picture in the bottom right, Kotaro already holds the tool in his hand. The tool is to far away to just grab it and its strange that Hori didnt draw a picture of Kotaro running or jumping for it. Its as if he left out a picture on purpose. And if you look closely you can see that it seems indeed as if the tool “jumped” or “flew” right into Kotaros hand and he closed it over the tool handle. Its also interesting to note that Kotaro holds it with his right hand, despite his left hand being nearer to it. Of course we could say its because he is right handed, but if you are in a situation like him, wouldnt it have been more logic to grab it with the hand that was nearer. That tells me he grabed it with his right hand, because that is the hand he is used to using his quirk with (and because he is most likely right handed). So if what we see here is indeed Kotaros quirk and the garden tool “jumped” into his hand on his own, I think we can all agree that this sounds suspicious similar to Inkos quirk, attraction of small objects, with which she also can make objects “fly” or “jump” into her hand and Nanas quirk is called “flow” after all, only that she makes herself flow and we dont know what the quirk of her husband was.

Fourth hint (now it starts to get interesting): “That was a demon that threw away her own children.” - Kotaro Shimura about his mother Nana.

Yeah you read it right. Here Kotaro says word for word that Nana threw away her “children”. Not child! Children! Plural! For someone who is supposed to be an only child, its very strange to speak in plural here. And the interesting thing is: he also uses plural in japanese. In japanese he says: “Kodomo o suteda kichikuda.” The translation for that is: “Its a devil/demon that throws away (her) children.” So its possible that Kotaro knew that he was about to become a big brother. The timeline suggests that when Nana gave Kotaro in foster care, she was already pregnant (the death of her husband was probably not long ago). Its spring at that time, because we see can see the Sakura blossoms fall. And Inko was born in summer. And if we look at Nana in that pictures, she looks indeed as if she gained weight. You could say its because of the coat, but even then she looks more “rounder” then normal and its also a little suspicious that Hori didnt draw her from the front. And from afar she really does a lot look like Inko, dont you think?

Also the building in the backgroud looks very similar to the house complex the midoriyas life in right know.

Fifith hint: Inkos birthday date.

Some of you may wonder now, whats so special about Inkos birthday date. Inkos birthday is on 4. July or 7.4. The special thing is in the translation of the numbers, because it translates into: seven (nana) and four (shi). 7.4. = nana shi. And if we consider that Hori loves to put informations about his characters in their names and birth dates, I think this is a pretty big hint from him.

Sixth hint: Parallels

Im pretty sure I forgot a few hints, but this were the ones that came right to my mind, so feel free to ad a few more if you can! 

P.s.: And lets face it. If dad for one is canon, we all know, afo would go after Nanas daughter, as soon as he finds out about her.

[bibibbon]

MHA chapter 415 leaks

A lot of the problems I have with this chapter are already ones that I talked about in previous chapter posts which can be found here 👇

However I still wanna talk about things that I don't like in this chapter.

1) the memory sharing thing and how random it is. I stand by the point that this plot point came out of nowhere, is a speedy and cheap way to try and build up what little development izuku and shigarakis dynamic lacks. The memories that are being shared also seem very inconsistent like why did one memory trigger another? It makes no sense why Izuku's fight with todoroki would ultimately trigger the usj and why the fight itself would be triggered by a convo that stain and shigaraki have. In my opinion, this is also a very good way for hori to just show off how he has improved his own art and be like "oh look at how good my art is now" which kinda sucks because we don't get any story but just some cool looking manga chapters

2) power of rejection?!?! Seems like a fancy plot armour for izuku not to lose all of his quirks to me🤷‍♀️. The power of rejection just sounds like such a cliche way to be like oh izuku won't lose his quirk to plot armour because he physically cannot lose his quirks since shigaraki is rejecting them. Like seriously what is it with Izuku not being able to keep his powers and we are just having him HAVE TO PASS DOWN HIS QUIRK FOR NO REASON?!?!?! you already passed down the quirk that caused the most distress aka kudos so won't izuku suffer even more if he passed down blackwhip which is the quirk that is keeping him both alive and is giving him the ability to move like why would izuku the and transfer that?!?! Seems stupid to me 😭 and low-key further reinforces the idea that the power of rejection is (A) there a plot point introduced to make it so that izuku doesn't lose his quirks and (B) so horikoshi can still create intense looking manga pages that he won't be able to create if izuku can't use his quirks anymore.

3) The unnerving focus on the police officer who took Tenko home. This manga page low-key confirmed the one theory that was like the police officer is afo and that AFO gave tomura his quirk which if it is true just doesn't line up or make sense when it comes to canon. I see how this theory can help develop both the parallels further in fanon but in canon it just damages tomura's character and its like an excuse that we should pity shigaraki even more because this police guy who was supposed to help him was a villain who gave him a destructive quirk and made him go insane /cause his families deaths. This also takes away from the half baked plot point that the gene for quirks actually heavily influence behaviour but if this theory is true then shigaraki just wants destruction because he wants destruction 🤷‍♀️ nothing more and nothing less.

4) Eri becoming relevant to the plot now? I have already said this and I will say it again Eri's quirk is too narrative breaking and too powerful. You literally cannot have the plot go on since we discovered that Eri can legit just rewind people to a time they were at their prime like she did with mirio. This brings up the question as to why she didn't do this with aizawa or all might and therefore her quirk could be used to make the series and characters have no long lasting concequences. Also how are the heroes so irresponsible thaT THEY COULD LET A CHILD SIMPLY RUN INTO A DANGEROUS AND TERRIFYING BATTLE FIELD LIKE WHATS WRONG WITH YOU ECTOPLASM DO SOMETHING YOURE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE CHILD ARENT YOU?!?!?!!? also this is such a shame Eri could of actually been a very good character who symbolised the traumatic events that victims of hero society faced and how young children could be kidnapped and exploited for powerful quirks however instead of getting anything like that we just get Eri BECOMING A TOOL FOR THE HEROES WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS Traumatised TO DO DUE TO OVERHAUL MAKING HER A TOOL FOR HIM AND NOTHING ELSE?!?!? talk about double standards. This is also making the Eri will rewind shigaraki into Tenko theory much more plausible and I hate that theory for so many reasons. However, it's either this or the theory that she will have to separate Izuku and shigaraki BECAUSE FOR SOME forsaken REASON THOSE TWO ARE SOMEHOW MERGING AND BECOMING THE SAME PERSON LIKE THAT MAKES ANY SENSE

5) where did the damage that kudos quirk was supposed to do to shigaraki go? Is it me but I seriously don't see shigaraki getting any damaged or recoil from kudos quirk like I could see some of it from the last chapter where shigaraki was somewhat struggling but that's it nothing else. Shigaraki can now fight perfectly fine and isn't getting the recoil hit if a nuke something that izuku was suffering with the majority of the fight which just seems unfair at this point like?!?! Its also another example of how hori fails at show don't tell

Seriously I still don't like the leaks but at least we got my girl hatsume and la brava that's the only good thing I can think about when it comes to these leaks.