#homosexual society

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In Bighorn and Thinhorn Sheep, males live in what one zoologist has described as "homosexual societies" where same-sex courtship and sexual activity occur routinely among all rams.

A male Bighorn Sheep in the Rocky Mountains mounting another male

"Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity" - Bruce Bagemihl

[perpendicularpotatoes]

"Sodomy and the pirate tradition" (B. R. Burg, 1983)

Short intermission from fanart: I recently learned that there is a 1983 book called "Sodomy and the pirate tradition" and it got fucking Blackbeard on the cover 🤣🤣🤣

Just wanted everyone to know about that.

The author is still alive and seems very cool. His attitude on the back cover was basically:

I'm not saying all pirates are gay and I'm definitely not trying to argue the obvious and indisputable fact that they had tons of gay sex. I want to look at what homosexuality being okay and even encouraged meant for pirate society.

When I posted this on Reddit a month ago I was informed that he is still very much alive and super excited about OFMD, hadn't watched it yet though because he's hard of hearing and wasn't sure how to at the time the commenter talked to him which is both heart-warming and heart-breaking. 🥺

I hope he's figured it out by now.

(I was able to get a free ebook version through a university library BTW. Haven't gotten around to reading it yet though)

[babyloniastreasure]

something that kind of bothers me about modern feelings toward the epic of gilgamesh is how it's been COMPLETELY watered down to being "gay". Bear with me as I explain.

this is more of an extreme example, but I see this take all the time (not the yaoi part. the gay lover part). it's boiled down to the fact that it's gay over literally anything else in the epic. Gilgamesh's lament to Urshanabi about Enkidu's loss is overshadowed by the fact that Gilgamesh is mourning his gay lover. Gilgamesh is on a journey because he lost his gay lover. Gilgamesh and Enkidu were gay.

Now I understand that with a modern lens, people tend to lock on to how unabashedly Gilgamesh mourns Enkidu, because it's gay and because it's the oldest written epic in human history. People feel deeply connected to the idea that people like them have been around since the dawn of literature. But placing exclusive focus on the nature of the relationship as gay, rather than why the relationship or its loss was important, erases the story the epic is trying to tell.

The Epic of Gilgamesh is a story about love, yes, but it is not a love story. It's about the fear of death, coping with loss, and desperation to stave off the inevitable. It's about the bonds of friendship, about hardship, coming to terms personal change and losing pieces of yourself as you learn and grow. It is about consequences, arrogance, death, second chances, mourning, yearning, loving and LIVING. The Epic of Gilgamesh is about the entire human experience and one man's struggle to accept it. What does it mean to have lived? What does it mean to have loved, and lost? What does it mean to die, and to be remembered? What does it mean to be human?

It is perfectly okay to find appreciation for the Epic because of Gilgamesh and Enkidu's relationship. But also understand that the world's oldest story is not about two gay men who loved each other. It is a story about being alive.

TLDR;

[serpentface]

You said that the Ulelilwa people are the only group fully permissive of intersophont relationships, in this case between Qilik and Elowey. But since the Elowey are mammals and the Qilik are avian and would thus have very different "equipment", I wonder how that would work.

It could involve pretty much any of the litany of non penetrative sex acts out there (with some limitations to oral and digital due to Teeth and Claws)

Elowey have the same basic anatomy as humans and the mechanical act of reproductive sex is basically the same. Their mouths are a little more intimidating than those of humans, but not really any More dangerous to have near your genitals and have similarly flexible lips and muscular tongues, so they would be capable of performing all forms of oral sex. Their hands are the biggest difference- their fingernails are much thicker (though can be filed down to the base) and their fingers are furred, so receiving penetrative digital sex from that might be uncomfortable. But other than that, any sex act performed by humans from Real Life could be accomplished by elowey in the same or similar ways, so there's a lot of possibilities on that end.

Qilik mate via cloaca contact and have no penis, so the external parts of the cloaca is where pleasurable stimulation occurs and their reproductive tract is not predisposed to receive penetration. VERY shallow insertion of a digit or tongue might feel good for the average person but that’s the full extent of it. There’s probably people who like putting things up their cloaca, it’s just not going to be a Common desire (and a qilik cloaca doesn’t have any internal structures like the prostate that are directly pleasurable to stimulate), and the difference in size wrt elowey would likely make penetration painful and potentially dangerous in most cases (it could Probably be safely accomplished for some people with practice/carefulness/substantial lubricant because elowey penises are pretty small and thin, but this isn't going to be all that common).

There are also obvious limitations to performing oral on the part of qilik, they don’t have mobile lips and their jaws are full of small, sharp teeth. You cannot put a penis in there in any way that will benefit you, and their tongues are long and thin and can't lick with that much pressure or finesse. A lot of qilik are more likely to perform oral-adjacent sex with the bare skinned tips and sides of their snouts, which is a notably sensitive area of the body (not in the Fetish World IF YOU TOUCH IT I WILL CUM way, just tactile and good for physical affection of all kinds).

Like Humans, sexual pleasure is not solely derived from the mechanical reproductive act, but this is PARTICULARLY pronounced in qilik. Exclusively reproductive sex is very rapid- the entire act with full sperm transfer takes about 5-10 seconds. Their pre-sophont ancestors would breed over a period of a few hours, cycling through periods of male display, mutual preening, and mounting with sperm transfer. Bonded same sex drake pairs/throuples cooperatively rearing young would also intersperse their greeting allogrooming with mounting and full cloaca contact, as an affiliative sexual behavior that strengthened social bonds. This translates substantially into how behaviorally modern qilik tend to enjoy recreational sex, for most the act is 95% about intimate grooming and physical affection While Aroused and 5% direct genital stimulation.

This would actually be a fairly agreeable circumstance for a qilik/elowey pair, as both species have allogrooming as a basic behavioral drive (with layers of cultural convention tacked on top of it). Allogrooming feels nice in general and can be enjoyed in a sexual context.

So like bottom line for what would commonly be on the table:

Horny allogrooming

Other physical affection (licking, nuzzling, cuddling, etc)

Non or lightly penetrative oral/digital sex

Non-penetrative genital contact

Charged allogrooming moment between Ulelilwa men. Guysrule, beautiful romance, etc

[reanimated-corps3]

i know this gets talked about a lot but I WILL NEVER GET OVER HOW NEIL LOOKED AT TODD IN THIS SCENE

[lv3buzzz]

thinking about how gay todd and neil being roomates was

like thats the actual most gayest shit ever

theyre so gay

[nuancefem]

bruh just saw a post where a tumblrina got all defensive saying it's 1000% valid and above criticisms for a woman to get creeped out and be scared of stds if a dude she's into turns out to be bi

like. girl. this shit is why i don't fuck with bi & het women sometimes. if you either fetishize or feel grossed out by being with a man who just so happens to have had flings or relationships with other men... you're just a homophobe. gay/bi men can be lesbophobic. gay/bi women can be homophobic. the amount of homophobic dykes i see running around, running their mouths and still associating stigma with male homosexuality and even TYING IT UP TO STDS ??????? like holy fucking shit. did the aids crisis teach us nothing about lgbtq solidarity when gay/bi men were hit the hardest?? to me you're instantly as boring as any homophobic het tradwife. and i'm glad some gyns are calling it out in themselves and know they need to work on it, bc we all grow up under homophobic society, but some of y'all are making the craziest excuses and i'm instantly like HMMM noted. you would have 100% been the type of homophobic bi girl making gay/bi boys at school uncomfortable. gotcha. noted 📝

btw this includes if you suddenly learn your bf has a history of sexual trauma and you suddenly find him gross and "emasculated" btw. that's the heteropatriarchy lodged deep inside your brain. and i think you should get out of that man's life asap and let a cool bi chick snatch him up or smth. i see this especially with het women, which is why so many bi men are bi4bi when they're in het relationships, but honestly bi women aren't above it either... we need to send some respectful fujoshis over i stg cuz the biphobia is embarrassing af. and no, it's not the same as sexualities being at times sex/agab-exclusive, this is straight up just stigma. bisexual stigma. and picturing your male crush with another guy and being like "EWWW" like the homophobic bi girls in my highschool 💀💀 so ridiculous honestly. boohoo a dude you're into is not conforming to heteropatriarchal standards! shockers! y'all always say you want femboys and sweet anime yaoi boys or whatever but when a gnc guy hits you up and isn't straight you feel attacked and lose all respect for him?? such weirdos

[daily-hanamura]

[front-facing-pokemon]

[yellowocaballero]

One of the many things that I've been doing instead of writing are these damn manwha binges and Villain To Kill is literally so funny. The comic premise is straightforward action, think Tokyo Ghoul meets Solo Leveling - local Genetically Superpowered Superhero Cop working for corrupt Hero Organization gets #betrayed and #murdered and is reincarnated into the body of a Genetically Superpowered Villain Teenager so now he has to join up with all the other villain superpower people to get justice.

It's so 5/10. Cassian is extremely OP and the story isn't well-written enough to pull that off well. The worldbuilding is so incredibly nonsensical and weak that it falls apart if you think about it for more than five minutes (tried to write fic for it and failed because I would have had to rework the entire world - which, I could have, but that's a lot of effort for Villain to Kill). The plot is mostly any OP action hero plot where guy gets increasingly powerful by fighting increasingly powerful guys. Cassian himself has almost nothing going on internally, to the point of elegance. And it is somehow the gayest manwha I've ever read.

It's the fucking character designs. And like its narrative but it's the fucking 100/10 character designs. The entire cast's design and characters slam. There's not that much depth but we don't care. You know if we don't like somebody if they look vaguely straight, and you know that we like somebody if they look like they were set to tumble dry in the queerness washing machine. The (great!) women are high femme or hard butch. The corrupt institution assassinated a man Cassian loved and framed & murdered him, at which point he was adopted by a rag-tag bunch of flamboyant homosexuals deemed unacceptable and undesired by society who all teamed up and decided to villainize society in exclusively funny ways and spend most of their time gossiping or hacking the Pentagon. An AFAB character dresses as a man and goes by he/him pronouns half the time for no good reason. Cassian is physiologically incapable of thinking about anything but violence so the heartwarming found family scenario's going over his head, but his Painfully Het Hero Foil Indoctrinated Into Homophobia caught the found family ball and now he's dancing in their gay bars and dressing in drag. There's only a few characters who are explicitly gay but this is gayer than that.

I talked a while back about how important a decent supporting cast is to a good story, and this is yet again good proof. Looking at this, I think I'd go further and say - it's an action manwha, we're reading it for a reason, we don't need character-driven story arcs or really complex characters. I think it's just charisma. A story can go really far on characters with charisma.

TV Shows that are carried on the lead actor (Columbo I love you) - it's because the actor has charisma. You watch it to see the actor hang out being himself. That's way way harder to do in fiction, but I think that "a complex character" isn't necessarily a "charismatic character". I'd rather have a cast of only charismatic characters rather than only complex ones. A story of any genre needs a strong cast of charismatic characters. They can be deep or they can just be chaotic lesbians. Charisma invests the reader in the story and the characters. It's simple but it's really powerful. And it is fucking hilarious how sometimes all you need to do on that front is "Rupaul this shit".

I can't genuinely recommend Villain to Kill and this is not a recommendation. But random stuff always interests me like this, and I really had no idea that I would read 120ch of a manwha bc the designs fuck so hard. Also, like, this is queerest manwha I've ever read. Somehow. Fucking somehow.

[manilovedinosaurs]

sometimes i be forgetting that anderperry is actually NOT canon and theyre actually honestly literally just roommates

EVERYTIME that happens i just look at them like

[lonlylook]

Dead poets society (1989)

"i'm trapped"

[funkervogt]

(Realizes that the most common transman experiences perfectly align with my life and feelings about myself and fascinations and who I want to be with) Ohhhh Okay i am fucked

[purplebehittindifferent]

You is..... You is gay? ✪ ω ✪

Contrary to popular belief I’m cishet!

But I would definitely consider myself a casual women enjoyer

Imma go out in a limb here and say that-

You anon. You is gay.

[nem0c]

Assorted interviewees from The Homosexual Society, Richard Hauser, 1962

[ashorterurl]

my favorite high school hobby was showing uruha to male classmates, saying "what do you think?" and when they said "she's hot" I'd say "it's a guy ;)"