I’m sure this has already occurred to someone, but on rereading Homestuck recently I’m struck with a thought.
Caliborn and, later, Doomed!Calliope were playing rigged games. They rid themselves prematurely of their alternate side, in a manner I’d say is atypical to their species - at least, that’s openly stated for Caliborn. I don’t recall if D!Calliope says the same was for her or if she successfully ousted him in the natural way.
It’s implied if not outright stated that this is why LE never has wings - he’s emotionally stunted in a way he doesn’t have the resources to fix and will never fully mature as a cherub.
Back to my point - nothing is impossible in Paradox Space, right?
I want to see the game where Calli succeeded - that is, the game where they played together.
I want to see how that would have gone. The lands they would have gotten.
And I think, given how the Sgrub/Sburb games tend to “Tailor gameplay elements to the hyperflexible mythos of each session”.... well.
They both have Dream Selves.
They each have a separate Dream Self, in fact the crux of LE’s illegitimate bodysnatch.
Which means that, it’s entirely possible, given how the games work, make it seem very probably to me that they both could have gone God Tier. In fact, maybe they would have had to mutually reach God Tier, because their base body was singular. Of course, it’s not impossible that the Game could have pulled a real asshole move and made it so only one could tier up, but it feels heavily implied that Caliborn and, subsequently, Doomed!Calliope’s single-player games were not ideal outcomes. Like Sburb/Sgrub tries to always get, as Calliope says, the bare minimum of Time and Space into a game.
Sburb is a harsh, dangerous game that is ruthless to non-alpha timelines (I’ll get to those), but it generally seems to support its players playing a specific way. Fast ones getting pulled on people tend to be the outcome of choices made by other players and entities (ie, Lord English and Doc Scratch), baked into timeloops that can’t be avoided without doom.
So. I don’t think it’s impossible for Sburb to have been an absolute utter dick in this scenario, and screw over whichever player got unlucky/outmatched, but I personally find it more likely (partly because it’s a better story (to me), and stories are the bread and fucking butter of Homestuck) that it would have only allowed them to go God Tier in sync with each other.
Speaking of non-alpha timelines! Lord English sure can do whatever the fuck he wants to causality, it seems! Wouldn’t it be extremely interesting if his counterpart of equal and opposite power would choose to work in tandem with him?
Wouldn’t it be fascinating if LE himself got ousted by Team God Tier Muse of Space and Lord of Time?
Wouldn’t it be amazing if they managed to override whatever the fuck LE does to make himself succeed all the time?
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i have a lot of thoughts about the recent beyond canon upd8
I want to say upfront I know what they were trying to do and as a victim I really appreciate it. I feel like a lot of people refuse to talk about csa and sa or grooming, and that while every fandom does it, the homestuck fandom specifically has a pattern of completely ignoring it when it happens. It definitely doesn't help that it comes up a lot in homestuck, so theres a lot of it to ignore.
But personally, I still didn't like how it was handled. I know that the people in the weird black hole hell therapy realm aren't really the normal versions of themselves and are more symbolic than that, the Mindfang/Vriska's lusus chapter before that made that very obvious, but I feel like not only was Doc Scratch handled very heavy handedly and a little strangely, but it also didn't even actually accurately represent Vriska's personal trauma with him either. So him being like that wasn't justified in the way that the Momfang one was.
To me it was basically extremely over the top and deeply fucked up, and felt a lot like a whump fanfiction. I feel like it's important to be able to handle topics like this without treating them too lightly, but going so heavy with it especially when they didn't give a good warning for it and really understated what was in it, was a bad idea.
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so maybe this is a really stupid question, but what exactly is homestuck? i've no idea and i have asked multiple people and no one has given me an answer yet, but i hope you do answer.
Alright, I'll try to give the most comprehensive answer I can.
Homestuck is a semi-interactive webcomic that started back in 2009, written by Andrew Hussie. Completed in 2016, the webcomic as a whole sits at 8,123 pages (800k words). The format of the webcomic includes not only illustrated panels on each page, but hours of fully animated videos, multiple playable flash-games, a TON of amazing music (possibly composed by some familiar faces!), and interactive mechanics used within the browser itself to deliver some of the more "meta" elements of its plot.
Now, to give the most brief summary, the story of Homestuck is about a group of kids (John Egbert, Rose Lalonde, Jade Harley, and Dave Strider) who become friends over the internet and decide to play a game called SBURB, a reality-altering video game that brings about the end of the world. If SBURB is beaten, it would allow the players to become the creator/gods of a new world.
Along the way, the kids will interact with a slew of other characters, including a species of aliens called trolls. There's time travel, extensive and convoluted game mechanics, meta-narratives, alternate timelines, and all sorts of stuff that will make your brain hurt. It's complex and insane and wonderful, mind-bending and incredibly genre-defying. There's so much I'd want to say but you just can't summarize the immensity of Homestuck in a post like this.
If you are at all interested in reading Homestuck, the best way to do it is to use the Unofficial Homestuck Collection. With the death of Flash, the original website is mostly broken. This collection is the BEST way to experience it.
If you decide to take the dive, I wish you luck o7.
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Well…here we are in the reread ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Deepcut, who remembers when this panel said CAUCASIAN instead of peachy before Hussie changed it?
Edit:
I found the gif in my old upd8 tag, I’m dyinggg
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so. Two of my ocs r just. these two losers if i was writing them. (cause i like them a lot) so i figured it fitting to gif-ify them w/ that panel from hs^2
The process was super fun, I might do more edits over homestuck panels.
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Something I didn’t quite realize until recently is that the two moiraillegiances that Hussie textually refers to as “made for each other/bros for life” (Feferi<>Eridan, Gamzee<>Karkat) are the two relationships that cratered so spectacularly that one party brutally murdered the other half as well as their friends in a particularly climatic scene.
Which is either a reminder that even Hussie’s open, metaphor-free, aboveboard narration can and will be wrong, or Hussie just really likes destroying “perfect” Moiraillegiances (although given how Fefidan starts... yeah).
AND they killed off Meowrails after having Equius completely fail to protect Nepeta bc he, uh, couldn’t resist temptation ig? It wasn’t for anything noble (also his apology for it later was so bad that a robot tween alter ego who’d only spoken to four people in his life was like “DUDE“, and made Nepeta explode)
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