#hermitcraft situation

[rainbowchaox]

As someone that was in Qsmp and Dsmp. Stop laughing at Hermitcraft situation. I don’t even watch any of the CCs besides like those in the Life series but stop with the comments of “Ah such a safe community now huh?” And “how the mighty fall”. And don’t be weirdchamp And bug anyone about this. Hermitcraft is dealing with it privately which is what I wished Qsmp had the chance too. So everyone be kind to each other! Just because some people were awful doesn’t mean Hermitcraft is.

[hermitcraftx]

the hermits fucking hate dream's ass btw like they do not like him and you should be embarrassed if you think otherwise

[sarcosmiiic]

PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND:

we, as fans, do not have a right to private information. anything shared with us on this is a privilege. please do not abuse it. the cc's could shut down and never talk about it if we overwhelm them.

also, please keep in mind that ONE HERMIT and THE ENTIRETY OF HERMITCRAFT are NOT THE SAME THING. the entire fandom is not 'ruined' or 'completely unsafe' because of the actions of one person.

PLEASE DO NOT ASSUME THAT THE OTHER HERMITS KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT WHATEVER'S GOING ON WITH ISKALL. this is not some big conspiracy, it's the consequences of one person's actions. they weren't hiding this from us, that's not how hermitcraft works, they truly didn't know. they probably knew as much as us about this, so making it an 'us against them' situation is immature and shortsighted.

ALSO, I AM BEGGING EVERYONE TO PLEASE NOT SENSATIONALIZE THIS. PLEASE DO NOT TURN HATING ISKALL INTO A MEME OR A JOKE.

mcyt'ers being revealed to be less-than-great people is not a rare thing, sadly, but i've seen it turned into a joke/meme/trend in other fandoms. this both minimalizes the actual people's/victims' struggles, makes the entire situation feel less serious than it is, especially to outsiders looking in, and makes everyone in the fandom look immature, petty, unable to take anything seriously, and genuinely harmful.

this server, fandom, and community are not dying, it is not ruined forever, this is one (major, i'm not trying to minimalize it) issue that we're currently dealing with. it will be okay. we will move on. this is not the beginning of the end. please calm down. i love this fandom, god bless all of you. <3

edit: doc has said on stream that we will likely get more information as time passes. like i said, this is a PRIVILEGE. we are not OWED information. please be grateful for what we're given, and POLITELY ask questions if you must. if a cc doesn't give you the answer you want, or doesn't answer at all, LEAVE THEM ALONE. THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO HARASS PEOPLE. the hermits are likely just as stressed out as us, if not probably more so, so please keep that in mind when contacting them.

don't freak out, we'll be okay, this is not the end of the world, nor is it the end of Hermitcraft. we will be okay.

second edit: please remember that (at least as far as we know) ISKALL AND STRESS WERE NOT KICKED OR BANNED. THEY LEFT OF THEIR OWN VOLITION.

ALSO!!! VERY IMPORTANT!!!

WE. DO. NOT. KNOW. EXACTLY. WHAT. HAPPENED.

PLEASE DO NOT ASSUME ANYTHING SIMPLY BASED OFF OF OTHER MCYT'ERS PAST ACTIONS/SCANDALS. WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. WE MIGHT NOT EVER KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. WE NEED TO BE OKAY WITH THAT AND NOT DRAW OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

TWITTER LINKS TO VICTIM RESPONSES:

https://twitter.com/Kasszi_/status/1860670647946604985

https://twitter.com/emoslab_/status/1860697161245323559

[chaotic-tired-fox]

They’re so based

[give-grian-rights]

Stressmonster101 has deleted all her social medias (apparently including her discord) and her second channel

False has confirmed on her discord that Stress had nothing to do with whatever happened.

If I was to create a discord for preserving her Hermitcraft videos as fast as possible, would anyone be interested in helping preserve it??

Even if it ends up that she supports Iskall and he did something really bad (WHICH WE DONT KNOW) we cannot lose another perspective of hermitcraft to history

[sharpjay217]

New Wels post, with context.

[feelsandrandomstuff]

Hermits reacting to the Iskall video

[orangeocelotmartyn]

[nowyoufuckedupinancientyiddish]

An Objective Summary of Iskall85’s Video

I am making this summary of Iskall’s claims so that you do not have to watch his video and inadvertently support him. This is an OBJECTIVE summary containing only his points, and leaving my opinions out of it. I must state however that I do not support Iskall. I don’t feel like inserting any more of my opinions into this so as to not get attacked by either side.

TW: MENTIONS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT, DEPRESSION, SUICIDAL THOUGHTS, THREATS

All of the things henceforth stated are ALLEGED, and I, InsoucianceArt, do not necessarily believe or support them.

A Hermit was presented with the allegations and brought it to the other Hermits without Iskall’s knowledge.

The Hermits summoned Iskall for a hearing with a deadline of 1.5 hours (time zones considered).

Iskall had contacted the police and was advised to not comply with the Hermits’ demands. Iskall told the Hermits of this, but they told him that if he didn’t attend the hearing he would be publicly removed from Hermitcraft. 

Iskall resigned.

Iskall has no income, has received hate and threats, has seen no reason to continue living.

The investigation on the rumours and allegations is still ongoing. Iskall was advised not to speak in public, hence why he has only done so now.

Iskall goes through the typical explanation of cancel culture and why things can be blown out of proportion

One of the victims has done this (aka bringing claims of sexual harassment from a content creator) before.

Iskall states that Hermitcraft should have waited.

Iskall has increased the security of his private life.

Iskall compares cancel culture to witch hunts.

Nobody has the right to infringe upon Iskall’s private life.

Hermitcraft was biased when they posted the tweet and subsequently did not moderate the Reddit forum.

One of the Vault Hunters devs has been calling shots and claiming they have taken over the project, all without Iskall’s approval. However, Iskall claims ownership of Vault Hunters, as he owns the rights to it.

The developers have received due compensation for their work on VH. 

5 VH devs wrote a document that, according to Iskall’s solicitor, can be seen as extortion. It demands full ownership of VH, its assets, and its funds. Iskall did not sign this document and sees this as a huge betrayal. These devs are now no longer representing VH or part of Iskall’s team.

Iskall is going to continue work on VH. 

Another spat about cancel culture.

Iskall states the goal of all of this was to “delete him from the internet” and to wreck every opportunity he had/has. He states he will never go that low himself.

Iskall is waiting for the police to finish their investigation. 

Iskall thanks his remaining supporters and says to keep an eye out on his Twitch and YouTube, meaning he will probably return to content creation.

Then he explodes a pile of diorite for some reason idfk man

[beemoboppin]

Just a reminder that people get fired from their jobs for sexual harassment all the time. It’s not up to us to decide truths, it’s just the way it is

[terracottakore]

having early era etho thoughts again

[rainbowchaox]

I really like how instead of trying to hide a member of smp shitty views now smps are ditching members that have done shitty stuff. Quackity did it with W and F (which he still deserves props for because he was close to W atleast.)

But he did it because it was the right thing to do which is all we can hope for any smp or organization. And now Hermitcraft did the same. Dont get upset at the organizations that decided to distance themselves from these peeps. Support them and support victims.

They are doing the best they can. And they are doing right by the victims and by the fans at large. Do not start saying Hermitcraft is all full of creeps or “broken”. And go offline if needed! Love and peace everyone

[starcrossedandstupid]

Just saw Etho’s TCG card and. Oh my god

Now you may think ‘what are you talking about that’s just etho at his base?’ But no, you silly man. That’s Joel’s base. The Etho statues in front of that style of arch? With the cherry blossom tree? That isn’t Etho’s base. He made the conscious decision to do that. I will NEVER be over this bit.

[waywardsunlight]

I hope Iskall85 understands that comparing himself, somebody who was a creep to people in his dms and who cheated on his partner, to women and marginalized people getting murdered, is disgusting.

He didn’t refute the screenshots being real, and he also put blame on the Hermitcraft server for cancelling him when they put out a neutral statement about the situation and gave him an opportunity to discuss what was happening. He’s been on Hermitcraft for eight years, he had close friends on the server. They did not think it was fun or advantageous to have this conversation. Some of the victims haven’t come out against him publicly, and there’s no motive for his moderators and team, who financially benefitted from him, to accuse him other than that being the truth. The hermits haven’t said much of anything at all, and what they did say months ago was short and precise, as well as contradictory to Doc’s statements on the hermits trying the best they could to talk to him.

If you support Iskall85 after this statement and after the evidence which has been presented then block me, because I don’t want to see you around. He very clearly guilted his former staff and threatened the people he harmed, and this is not behavior that should be tolerated in any way.

[chaotic-tired-fox]

And there’s Twitter being absolutely foolish as always. If there’s anyone here who thinks for a moment that Iskall is innocent you need to check yourselves.

Hermitcraft handled the situation so vaguely that none of us even knew what was happening til a victim came forwards themselves.

There was no witch hunt and Hermitcraft absolutely weren’t spreading rumors or trying to ‘cancel’ him when he himself was the one who resigned without comment or even attempting to refute the claims. (His video also didn’t provide any evidence against the claims either fyi)

Obviously we don’t know everything that happens behind the scenes but Iskall victim blaming and claiming to have ‘gotten cancelled’ wasn’t anything to do with the Hermits who have straight up refused to comment on any of it on their streams when asked because it was a private matter that was handled privately and vaguely.

They are a PG collection of channels that put their viewers first, allowing him to stay in the community after being presented with proof of the allegations would’ve been deplorable. So no, they don’t owe Iskall an apology.

The victims are the only ones that have the right to discuss what happened and they were very brave to come forwards with it. People like Iskall and those like Stress who choose to side with him do not belong in our community. Think critically, look at the facts and always stand with the victims.

[notscarsafe]

Like I am fully on team don't give Iskall any attention or views on his video where he claims to have been cancelled, this guy resigned Hermitcraft voluntarily when they brought forth the accusations and then didn't say shit for like two months but THE HERMITS?

HELLO?