#he was not having it w lestat

[goose777]

i'm sorry the funniest part in the whole show is when lestat has his whole off script moment during the trial and he turns back to the audience, waves his hand and is like "continue" but then it just cuts to daniel going "um....okay"

[twolovelyberries]

don’t you want me baby?

[hyohaehyuk]

Sam talks about Jacob being 'an exceptional person' and answers what would have happened if Dale interviewed Lestat and whether or not Dale and Louis would be "friends" in The Emsolation Podcast Extras!

Note: Unf this is not the complete video where he answears that question(s). I had to edit it with a few excerpts i found so it might not make much sense. if someone put the whole segment of this question(s) i will edit this with that video

Source: The Emsolation Podcast - Sam Reid talks the FINAL season of The Newsreader, urvampiregirls, loustatsoup, comeappraiseme and pixielayer

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Him saying that he can't imagine Louis giving two f*cks about Dale 😞 Well the fanfics says otherwise 🙃 i am really surprised they didn't told im about the Louis x Dale fanfics on AO3 🤣

i cant find the tweet now but i swear that i saw someone one twitter saying that Michael Lucas and the lady in the video talked about it a few weeks ago in one of The Emsolation podcast eps.

Anyway, it's funny that Lestat possessed him both times: one (where Sam clearly was able to control him) where he was totally down to the idea of f*cking Dale and in the other where he cant stand the idea of Louis f*cking Dale (Lestat you fake poly. A cheater is what you are) I didn't believed 100% in the Lestat possession allegations until i watch this 🤯

[dxxtruction]

Louis' "You're boring!" Could mean so many things, but I think what's most apparent about that line is that Armand takes no initiative just for himself. He's not really anybody, because he never goes out and finds himself or gets attached to anyone but Louis. Without Louis as his guide he's literally just sitting on a couch picking lint! That's the thing.

He orbits constantly around what would make Louis happy, and never really fully going what would make me happy? Ultimately that drive to please Louis is what drives him to torturing Daniel, not so much that he'd care to just do it. Ultimately, not giving proper care to Louis is just a way to make sure Louis knows he has to orbit around him as well, with shoving Lestat onto him just that other nail on the coffin. So, even if he fails to figure out how to make Louis happy with him, he still knows what Armand is good for, and better than.

That dependency is what drives Armand's abuse. It really just comes down to that. Armand doesn't even realize how suffocated he is by his own dependency. This is just how life is to him. (It shouldn't be lost either that dependency is a theme considering this episode also deals with addiction).

Daniel's fascinating because he's just so driven to be somebody. He's largely independent, he seeks things because he wants them. It's his drug to poke and prod at all the things that he shouldn't. Daniel's exciting because he lets Louis in to something different, lets him in to all this potential in another person that he can also do the same with for himself. It's a real connection. A two way street. It's easy to tell how Armand can be smothering then because he's never introducing him to anything really new, and most the ways both of them connect are all painful and traumatic. It's never just fun because there's always that layer of that pain. Fun died with Claudia.

50 years on they've gotten to a lot better place, both of them, but it's still that same shit. No seriously, "How is this any different from last time, Louis?"

Well... Because Armand's going to be, at the very least, making one [1] decision only for himself - and that's to hold power over Daniel's life. Fucking sick foreshadowing.

They aren't driving each other to the brink anymore but "The vampire is bored" STILL. Maybe it's even worse, despite being in better places, because Louis' sort of just been defeated by it. (I mean, can he even really leave this either?). He's accepting the dependancy cause he kind of has to. He'd literally ended up letting all the enjoyment be up where he can't reach [The book shelves]. Armand so desperately wants Louis happiness but what really ends up happening is that Louis ends up having to give Armand all his own. He's got no one or anything else to get it from. But like an iPad and an over the top eating ritual. Two extremes of what's just more lint picking.

This whole relationship is one I find just tragic inside and out. You have to just pity it, really. There's ways in which you can find yourself feeling bad for both of them. But you can only really be mad at Armand for any of it. Armand, who isn't even 'free' in any sense, having so little concept of his own independence, but is at the same time so controlling over other's. It's a tragic cycle. It's an infuriating one.

Louis at least has the mind to know when enough is enough. If just needing that extra push to get there. Armand's too scared of it being over to even try.

[portraitoflestatonfire]

INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 1.03 "Is My Very Nature That of a Devil?"

[anthony-crowleys-left-nut]

this may not be how everyone else feels (which i respect), but i personally feel like since louis "killed" lestat, lestat saved his life, then lestat spent over 70 years sulking pathetically in his self-imposed timeout, if louis wants to call it even atp who am i to judge? how would i handle that? i don't know. but if that's where louis is at then i say let him be there. but maybe that's the loustat shipper in me lol. i'll admit i have a preexisting bias from the books and the movie.

[kindaorangey]

so if armand was human obviously the massive expanse of things that have happened to him would have to be condensed and also changed to be completely non-paranormal so let's say he's still "rescued" by marius at 15 and marius marries him soon(ish) after that so armand gets the citizenship or financial benefits but notably NOT because they're exclusively involved with each other (idk where pandora is in all of this). then marius dies or fakes his death for whatever sketchy reason and armand (now aged about 22) inherits All his wealth and in his grief he's approached by a developing cult that he immediately puts a bunch of his inherited money towards for the sake of having a community, maybe the cult rules involve personal death and rebirth, hence his renaming, and then the cult either falls apart or is forcibly disbanded and armand (now aged 25 or 26) re-enters regular society JUST in time to latch All The Way Onto an unsuspecting and recently divorced lestat de lioncourt, they ruin each other's lives for 6months to a year before armand is unceremoniously dumped for being possessive and deeply unstable. and it's in this desperate state (now aged 27) that he meets louis de pointe du lac, whom he throws all his energy into and ends up marrying after less than a year because louis is also on his second husband (and more recently so than armand, say he's with lestat from age 26 to 31 or something) and a little desperate for a nuclear sense of normalcy. and then they're together for a decade, capitalism-ing it up across the world, before they have the most explosive divorce you've ever seen. <3

[manmilkers]

We are supposed to believe, Armand, capable of controlling a theatre of +100 people without breaking a sweat or any visible strain, stopping time, mind wiping other vamps, able to withstand sunlight, wasn't capable of stopping Santiago, who is removing what Armand's perceives as his one obstacle to Louis, Claudia, and Madeline, a vampire Armand did not want made? But Lestat, who goes off script to align himself with the accused and speak in the defendants favor and who cannot control a dozen inebriated soldiers without bursting blood vessels and bleeding from the ears and not being able to stand upright after and is +2 centuries younger/less powerful than their leader had the more active role in the orchestrating/controlling the lynch mob- trial? There is an obvious difference in power here that belies the narrative being spun as well as onscreen actions being taken by each of them, that Lestat showed up for vengeance and Armand “could not prevent it” 🙄, as well as a disparity in what we know these characters motivations are. Both of these people have an obvious pattern of taking fairly extreme measures when they perceive Louis as spurning them for someone/thing else or being more taken with another. Only one of them has ever forcibly forbade Claudia from leaving Louis and the other had control of the coven that killed her.

[cantsayidont]

The only mitigating factor in the rancidity of the IWTV fandom is that it's a (very) rare instance of a fan-favorite show whose key male leads ARE actually as attractive as the fans like to insist. (Usually, it's some extremely ugly white British man whose only notable aesthetic feature is being so skinny he's at risk of falling through steam grates.)

[canwehavehextonite]

htoo tired to write a genuine take so mb ill cm back to this bt smthing smthing ppl in fandom spaces want a perfect victim character in their nuanced unpacking of the intricacies of abuse and the very nature of victimhood that they r never going to get. however at the same time ☝ the flaws of louis character and toxic pieces of him and his behavior do not negate the fact that he is very much A Victim of abuse that is inherently loaded with racial violence. if i see one more person try to say that its Both of them "mutually abusing" each other im going to genuinely lose my shit bc yes. louis is at many times mistreating the people that he loves. yes louis is choosing to stay obsessed and trapped even when they are not together. yes louis is making choices that hurt himself, claudia, and others. no there is no perfect victim or even perfect villainous abuser. but lestat having trauma and louis having flaws does not detract from the fact that louis is very much a victim of lestat's (and later armand's) abuse and that the power in both of those relationships is so clearly not in louis' hands no matter how he might treat them or. have flaws like people do.

[dxxtruction]

Louis being compared to as a saint. Saints, who find their salvation and then give intercession from beyond that veil to move others towards it. A guide for life, where they no longer fall into their sins and trajectories towards a certain hell. "Listen to me as if I am the voice of god, or an angel." Louis being that saintly catalyst for the vampires to confront themselves in that such a way. A saintly Louis is very dear to me.

[einaudis]

I'm finally watching 2x07 and, remember when Mackie went all: "Sebastian Stan! Man, you're looking good! (...)"?, well that's me when Lestat showed up. I'm not even ashamed to admit it.

[chouchoudelioncourt]

Thinking about the post asking for Sam Reid vaping in between takes content this fine Sunday morning... what vape you guys think babygirl got?? Give me brand AND flavor

[blueiight]

will never not be endlessly fascinating how people attach their identities or sense of selves to fictional characters to where when u actually talk about the story people get all in their feelings and shit bruh tighten up

[lesbianmaxevans]

literally just putting some pieces together since I feel like a lot of ppl are overlooking things re: lestat

when armand gives his background with lestat, he quite literally says that théâtre des vampires was lestat's idea, but then lestat vanished weeks later. what would make lestat flee from the coven when he is literally responsible for the idea of it?

the horrific fight in 1.05 happens because he's afraid louis and claudia are going to leave. claudia has just mentioned that she wants to find other vampires. lestat warned her prior to the first time she left that the other vampires are "vicious" and "will tear [her] to shreds". if this doesn't make your mind return to the first bullet point, idk what to tell you.

lestat is deeply uncomfortable with being at the trial. compare his performance when armand first finds him in 2.03 to his body language here. he's a lot more restrained with his movements, there are multiple moments where he clearly hesitates to say what's in the coven's script, he has trouble looking at louis throughout the entire thing, and there are times where he looks mad or repulsed with the audience for falling in line with the narrative the coven has created. the first time louis tries to say that lestat is lying, lestat looks shaken and santiago has to telepathically urge him to continue. we see lestat repeatedly going off script -- santiago states it's a story of butchery (the butchery being lestat's "murder") and lestat corrects him, "it's a story of love, not butchery." he chastises an audience member. he steals santiago's line. after telling how he turned claudia, he says that he should also be on trial. after santiago discloses the drop, lestat takes accountability and insists that it was completely his fault and that he was purposefully trying to hurt louis. and lestat's face as he admits this demonstrates that he finds the act repulsive now.

after the coven calls to lestat, let's go through his "options" -- was lestat supposed to find louis + claudia and warn them about the trial? why would they ever listen to his warnings after the abuse he subjected them to? was he supposed to force louis + claudia to leave paris with him? was lestat supposed to hear that they're on trial and be like "no, I am not getting involved in this, I know the trial ends in their execution, and I'm just going to leave them to die"?