#has anyone actually watched deceit idk
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locoier · 1 year ago
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something about campfire crew really is so fucking hard hitting and beautiful cause like… theyre all lying to each other. ALL THE TIME. there is absolutely no trust between them, but there is loyalty and god isnt that a strange dynamic. and like… loony and taneesha are decidedly evil, and legundo just… isnt. sure, he sort of stands by and lets them do bad things but he doesnt really do bad things himself. yet, he still chooses to break the rules and swear his loyalty to them. but he doesnt feel any desire to kill others himself. which is such a contrast to most other death game alliances of similar rule-breaking situations. (i.e. in 3rd life, grian was killing people left and right with/for scar when he was green and enjoying every second of it). campfire crew never changed their own moral alignments to fit each others’. and there was no trust between them. loony was actively sabotaging legundo and trying to keep him weak. he and taneesha were constantly going behind legundo’s back. legundo tried to form other alliances, but never ever actually went through with helping anyone else. they were loyal to each other until they had no other choice but to fight. it was kind of beautiful as hell i love weird and toxic friendships.
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tenmillionwatervoles · 9 months ago
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Here is my five minutes not-thought-about-it-very-hard rundown:
Eye - Logan. knowledge, thirst for understanding, etc. less so the being watched part but the knowledge part just felt too perfect. I think he’s the one I’m most certain of. However I’d be interested to see if anyone else thought a different fear would suit him.
Spiral/web - Janus. I don’t know if either of these fit perfectly because the thing about Janus is he just isn’t very good at lying. I love this about him. That’s what he gets for being Thomas’ deceit I guess. I like the spiral for him more than the web. Now that I think about it the stranger has some obvious parallels with him BUT. The spiral is lying and also yellow. And also I like the stranger for Roman. (Why can’t they both be the same entity? We discussed this in the Harry Potter video! Answer: because wouldn’t it be nifty if they were all different. But actually idk because the stranger does fit Janus pretty well you have to admit. Ah well shoving characters into pigeonholes they weren’t meant for is never going to be perfect but it sure is fun.
Corruption/flesh - Remus. Stinky. You have to admit that he would like the corruption and the flesh the most. And they overlap a fair amount I’d say.
Lonely - Patton. I struggled with him a bit. I think this fits the best? There may be one obvious one I’m missing but I went with this. Don’t you think he’d be susceptible to the lonely? I was going to say THE MOST susceptible and then I was like Hm. Roman would probably be pretty up there too. HOWEVER I think other fears fit Roman better.
End/dark - Virgil. Virgil is a hard one because he IS fear. There’s the obvious spider association but I just wouldn’t call him manipulative (or if he ever is he’s shit at it). In the end I went with what I feel like are the two most basic human fears, and also ones that fit his aesthetic. I dunno man.
Stranger - Roman. I thought about the vast for him for a bit because of a fear of insignificance, and then I was like wait. The stranger is all about acting. Surely this makes more sense. Really and truly I’m not sure, but the place where he and Janus cross over the most is the putting on a show bit. Shrug emoji. Not sure I can think of one that’s perfect for him.
Did I forget any of the sides? It’s possible. I suffer from chronic sieve brain. But there’s my vague ideas.
I know at least two people on this website are fans of both sanders sides and tma so i must ask for your opinions...
which side is which fear(s)?
...i wanna make a chart so i'll post that tomorrow maybe
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threecrowsinatrenchcoat · 4 years ago
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Paint My Spirit Gold
Dukeceit Week Day 2: Green/Yellow
Fans of the YouTubers "Deceit" and Remus "The Duke" Sanders start to suspect that maybe, just maybe, the two of them are more than simple internet pals.
AO3 Link: [here]
Word Count: 2187
Warnings: n/a
@dukeceitweek <3
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[ID: A screenshot of a Twitter post by user @CallMeDukie. It features a watercolor-style painting of a snake. The snake appears to be made of melting chocolate, and there is a large bite taken out of its tail. Cherries and jam are leaking out of the snake at the bite wound. The snake's expression of horror is overly-exaggerated to the point of comedy. The caption reads: "liked your snake boi, @SerpenThyme. thanks for the inspo." /end ID]
A notification ding cut Janus off mid-sentence. 
“Wow, someone left their cell phone on, so professional,” he said, giving the camera a dramatic eye roll. That someone was him, of course, because he was the only one in the apartment- just him and the running livestream- but that was no excuse not to be a drama queen about it. He finished wiping flour off his hands and grabbed his phone to silence it; but the notification made him pause. He flicked his eyes up toward the camera and gave a slight smirk.
“My goodness, I’m famous,” he drawled. “The Duke himself has graced little old me with some fan art.”
Most of the comments in the chat wanted him to show it, so Janus opened up Twitter to see the full post he’d been tagged in. It was a watercolor painting of the coiled-snake chocolate sculpture- lovingly named Jake by his viewers- he’d made for his YouTube video last week; it was wearing an expression of such comedic horror that Janus had to stifle a laugh. He flicked his phone screen toward the close-up camera on his counter so his viewers could see.
“How kind of you, Remus,” he said. “All of you should go scold him for what he’s done to poor Jake here.”
Most of his viewers would know he was joking- after all, they were the ones to nickname him Deceit when he provided neither a real or fake name for his online persona. They knew full well what he was like by now.
The oven timer dinged. Janus silenced his phone and set it aside.
“And our first batch of cookies is done. You know, why don’t we show the Duke some appreciation?”
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[ID: An Instagram post by user @SerpenThyme. The photo is an artistically-framed shot of a stack of sugar cookies with green, yellow, and pink icing. Propped up against the stack is another cookie, with an intricate icing-drawing of an octopus. The photo appears to have been color corrected to have high contrast, low saturation, and a dark vignette at the edges. The Instagram user @OctoDukie is tagged. No caption. /end ID]
“You know, I have often been accused of actually being a little old lady, what with my fondness for knitted jumpers, rocking chairs, and incredibly fucked up murder mystery books. Today I am doing nothing to dispel this accusation, by making soup.”
The studio was dark and empty aside from Remus' workspace. Everyone else had left long ago, even his own brother, which meant that it was officially ass-o'clock in the morning (or, as most people called it, somewhere between 1 and 2 a.m.) But Remus was stuck in hyperfocus, honed in on putting the last touches on a commission that he'd been putting off for weeks. It's not that it was a tough painting- once he'd gotten started, it was actually a very creatively satisfying piece- but man, executive dysfunction could go suck a dick
“French onion soup, specifically. Because while I do like to pretend I am a classy bitch, I am also, regrettably, a lazy bitch with a distaste for anything that takes longer than one bottle of wine to make.”
Remus hated working in silence. It was stifling, almost suffocating. His brain needed noise like his lungs needed air. So when the studio had grown still and silent, Remus had flipped open his laptop and queued up some YouTube videos. 
“So we have here three pounds of onions that we need to slice up, pole to pole. You’re going to cry no matter what, so if you have any memories you’ve been repressing since middle school, now is an excellent time to dredge those up.” 
And if it happened to be 90% SerpenThyme videos, well. Sue him. 
“Now the first rule of caramelizing onions: fast and sloppy is always better than slow and thorough… at least, that’s what every man I’ve ever slept with tells me.”
Remus choked and glanced over to his laptop screen just in time to catch Deceit's trademark smirk directed at the audience just for a moment. It was the deadpan delivery that always got him. Remus could barely hold onto a joke long enough to get through it without cackling mid-punchline, but this fucker could say the funniest shit like an off-hand comment. 
He wiped his hands off on his jeans (what use were clothes if you couldn't use them as paint rags?) and pulled his laptop across the table.  He typed out a quick comment, citing the timestamp of the joke, and after it was posted, he shut his laptop. 
'Cause ass-o'clock was short for "get-your-ass-home-or-I’ll-kick-it" o'clock. 
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[ID: A screenshot of a YouTube comments section. The first comment is by user TheDuke, and reads: "10:42 wow, rude." The second comment is a reply by user SerpenThyme, and simply reads ";)" /end ID]
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Janus plopped down on the couch with a slight groan. He didn’t need to stream today, but he really hated missing days. Besides… he was fine. Really. 
He adjusted the camera until he was happy with the framing, and then checked the settings on his streaming software. Satisfied, he started the stream, and watched as his usual viewers rolled in. 
“What do you mean I’m not in my kitchen?” Janus drawled, addressing the chat. He glanced around with an expression of faux-shock on his face. “My goodness, when did that happen?”
He chuckled, and then gestured to his surroundings. “Yes, we are in my living room today. If you must know, my closest and most trusted friend tried to murder me today- yes, Virgil, it was attempted murder and nothing less- and I survived with nary a scratch… and a broken foot, but that is beside the point. Anyway, I’m not allowed to stand for long periods of time, and I may or may not be somewhat inebriated by pain pills and couldn’t stand even if I wanted to. So we are cooking from my couch today.”
Janus paused for a few moments to read the chat messages as they popped up. A few get well soon’s, a few theories about the “attempted murder,” Virgil- who moderated his chat for him- vehemently denying the “attempted murder” but otherwise refusing to clarify the event, and a large volume of wtf why are you streaming today, take care of yourself comments, which made him smile. But one particular comment caught his eye, almost lost amid the torrent of an active chat: wait this kinda looks like the Duke’s living room?
“Oh, VampSuga,” he said, addressing that commenter in particular with a slight smirk. “I haven’t the faintest idea what you’re talking about. Anyway, since I can’t reach my oven from here, I thought some no-bake cookies were in order. For these you will need-”
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[ID: A screenshot of a Discord conversation. The text reads:
“VampSuga: Ok ok hear me out. Dukeceit. 
Starstruck96: who?
IneffableSnek: lmao
FeralBeauYasha: lol
VampSuga: Deceit and Remus Sanders! They’re totally dating. I will die on this hill. 
FeralBeauYasha: Isn’t the duke w/ PatPat?
IneffableSnek: no thats his brothers bf
FeralBeauYasha: ohh
VampSuga: Did anyone see Deceit’s stream today? I swear that’s the Duke’s livingroom. 
StarStruck96: idk that seems like a stretch
IneffableSnek: no wait i kno what u mean
IneffableSnek: im watching the duke’s old videos and that one where he shows off all his old weapons he’s in a living room kinda like deceit’s 
FeralBeauYasha: They were acting all cute on twitter too
VampSuga: DUKECEIT”  /end ID]
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"Hey guys, been a while since you've seen my face and not just whatever my hands are busy with, when it's within YouTube's terms and conditions I mean. They used to be way more lenient…" Remus trailed off for a moment, then shook his head sharply and plastered on a grin. 
"Anyway! In June me and a few other creators did a fundraiser for the Trevor Project, and y'all smashed the goal, so I let you decide what video I'd make this month." He paused, and gestured to the mountain of clothes piled behind him on the bed. "And you had so many juicy ideas to choose from, but you decided to dress me up like a Barbie instead."
Remus paused to scroll through his phone for a few moments. "Ah, ok, here we go. Twitter user YoonIsMyCat- oh, BTS, nice- sent in this first outfit. Uh… future Remus, put up the post here somewhere." He gestured vaguely to his right. "Y'all went with either a fuckton more clothes or a fuckton less clothes, which I respect. Apparently this outfit is called…” He squinted at his phone. “Amish chic? I take it back, no respect at all.”
Remus cycled through the outfits his viewers sent in, which ranged from the aforementioned “Amish chic�� to “2008 rave attire” to “ok now you guys are just fucking with me” (which consisted of one of those big puffy snow coats, lime green in color; booty shorts with the shrug text emoji across the ass; fuzzy pink boots; and a yellow cowboy hat to top off the whole thing. It was awful. Remus loved it.) The mountain of clothes on the bed gradually became a mess of clothes spread across the floor instead, until there was just one outfit left. 
“Ok so Twitter user VampSuga sent me this outfit that I’m gonna call ‘sexy librarian.’ I couldn’t find this exact sweater online, but-” he paused for dramatic effect, before brandishing a sweater toward the camera like a bullfighter. “My boyfriend had something that was close enough.”
Remus hopped up from the bed and switched off the camera so he could change.
“They’re going to lose their minds,” a voice drawled from the doorway. Remus threw his shirt at him.
“Shoo, I’m getting naked.”
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[ID: A Twitter post by user @CallMeDukie. It features a selfie of YouTuber Remus “The Duke” Sanders, a Hispanic man with his hair dyed green and styled into a spiked mohawk. He is wearing a yellow knitted cardigan over a black button-up shirt. He is grinning widely at the camera. The caption reads: “my viewers pick my outfits! now live on youtube. go see what i look like as a sexy librarian!” /end ID]
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first and only dukeceit shipper ig
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wow there’s so many of you now! Hi!!
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i want this to be canon so bad omg
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[ID: A series of three gifs featuring Youtubers SerpenThyme, aka Deceit, and TheDuke, aka Remus Sanders. Deceit is a black man with long, dreadlocked hair, and vitiligo patches along the left side of his face. Remus is a Hispanic man with green-dyed hair styled into a mohawk, many ear and facial piercings, and tattoos covering both arms. Each gif is edited so that the highlights are tinged yellow when Deceit is seen, and tinged green when Remus is seen.
The first gif depicts a close-up shot of Deceit’s hands as he carefully decorates a cookie with green and yellow icing. The cookie art he is working on appears to be a half-finished octopus. The gif then fades into a mid-shot of Remus, with his back to the camera, facing a canvas. The canvas is blank, and Remus appears to be laying out paints on a table to his left. 
The second gif depicts Deceit seated at his couch, facing the camera. He has many ingredients spread across his coffee table (including oats, cocoa powder, and butter) and appears to be in the process of laying out several more. The gif fades to show Remus seated at a similar couch with a similar coffee table in front of him. The camera is angled slightly downward to better show the myriad of knives spread out across the table. Remus is gesturing wildly with a morning star held in his hand. 
The third gif depicts Deceit in his kitchen. He is pulling on a bright, yellow knitted cardigan, and smirking toward the camera. The gif fades to show Remus in his bedroom, seated on his bed. He is holding up a similar-looking cardigan toward the camera and grinning. /end ID]
“Remus, it’s almost two in the morning. Come to bed.”
“I’m coming, sorry. Twitter distracted me.”
“Mm. I can’t believe the bird app is more distracting than I am.”
“You should try harder.”
“Come to bed and maybe I will.”
“Ok, ok, I’m coming. Hang on though, is it cool if I post this?”
“Sure. They figured it out anyway.”
“Sweet. Ok, Jannie, I’m coming.”
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[ID: A screenshot of a Twitter post by user @CallMeDukie. It reads: “Dukeceit is canon.” /end ID] 
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sanktagenyas · 4 years ago
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alrighty so i guess coherent thoughts about this book might be a very generous estimate of what i’m about to write here but i’ll write down my thoughts anyway ‘cause i wanna share and possibly hear yours like for real interactions with my posts are not just welcomed they’re encouraged.
ok so to start our protagonists are alina and mal and our antagonist is the darkling and i pretty much related to alina right away because i love a hero with insecurities and doubts, i love an underdog so of course i was always meant to fall in love with alina starkov on sight. now the darkling... should be that i and everyone else would be beyond tired of the dark, tall, handsome and mysterious/scary men in fiction especially when they whisk our hero away for even more mysterious and/or nefarious purposes that they leave them completely in the dark about BUT the charisma fucking jump off of the pages i don’t know what else to tell you. and i am deeply intrigued about him and his backstory and also him and how he feels about our protagonist because when you catch the attention of a centuries old immortal being that says something about you but it says more about said immortal imo.
we come to learn that the darkling is beyond ruthless and yet he still a capacity for love after all this time even if it’s quite out of use to say the least. and just the fact that out of the thousands of people who have crossed his path there’s this one girl he saw and he was like well look at that someone who’s not unremarkable for once. and i know that’s not exactly a romantic sentiment but that’s how it starts, folks.
but anyway to cap my little ramble here despite the fact that i’ve seen that kind of villain before i do still really love the darkling. i like that we don’t have all the facts yet about what led him to become who he is so there’s just the right amount of mystery around him to keep you wanting to discover more and he is just human enough that he is not this caricature monstrous villainous figure (alina would beg to differ but i don’t listen to what alina yells at people when she’s angry)
now onto mal. i’m trying to word this in a way that doesn’t make me come off as a raging anti because the truth is that would require me to be invested in mal enough to hate him and as of now i’m just not. with book one being told entirely in alina’s perspective it’s pretty in your face that we should care about mal. our hero loves him and we want her to be happy, right? plus we really shouldn’t ship her with the villain there are so many wrong aspects about that dynamic just to name one aspect the deceit and the lies. the foundation of darklina is so fucked we should not ship it, right? well see that’s where i would argue that my biggest issue with darklina as a ship is the darkling in the final act all but saying fuck alina’s agency i’m going to make her my puppet for eternity not because that is necessary to accomplish my plan but because i’m jealous and resentful that she left me behind and didn’t embrace my plans for ravka and therefore embrace me.
and you might think wait i’ve lost the plot we were talking about mal and now we’re talking about darklina and the darkling but rewind back a little i said my issue with darklina in the final act of the book is the darkling pissing all over alina’s agency. and he might do that in more extreme ways than mal but mal certainly does seem to view alina as property at times and that implies him not respecting her agency. i could point to the fact that saying “don’t tell me we don’t belong together” is only framed as romantic statement because it comes out of the mouth of one of our protagonists and not our antagonist but that’s a cheap shot, it’s easy. instead i’ll echo my thoughts i shared about that malina reunion in chapter fourteen. mal was not one bit concerned about alina there and even though he says later on that not one hour was spent not thinking about her and wondering about her wellbeing all that flies out of the window the second he sees her with the darkling during the fete and here’s the thing if he had caught them mid makeout session i could understand him letting jealousy completely overtake him to the point that he doesn’t ask if she’s ok or how she’s been treated here and just assumes based on appearances (let’s not forget before she unlocked her powers alina was well and truly miserable regardless of the luxury afforded to her by her new grisha status so appearances don’t mean shit malyen) that she must be hunky dory and then tiptoes the line around slutshaming her but definitely crosses the line over into making her feel like shit for circumstances beyond her control territory and all that over seeing her do magic trickery at a party with another guy. 
alina is allowed to be attracted to another man, she’s allowed to have feelings for another man. they’re both guilty of miscommunication as they obviously both feel the same way about each other but alina has the decency to keep her jealousy to herself and not have outbursts about mal getting close to other girls like she owns his ass or something. that put me off and then i was hoping there would be a talk that would clarify things and he would apologize and that happened but it also came with the revelation that mal was upset to see her happy with the darkling. so he’d rather see the woman he loves miserable and alone rather than happy and belonging? and that’s the romantic lead i’m meant to be fawning over? i’m just not seeing it right now and that’s why even as he so generously offers her absolution (idk if you can read my sarcasm but just to be clear it’s sarcasm) for having loved the darkling and tells her he loves all of her even the part that loved the darkling i’m like..... i don’t believe you boy.
i guess in summary my thoughts about mal as a love interest is i need some consistency you cannot have him throw a jealous fit over seeing alina standing with another man (that’s literally all they were doing for real) and looking happy about it and then have him be like i don’t care i love you anyway. you cannot have him act as though he owns alina and in the same breath throw in her face that the darkling owns her (i hate this foreshadowing thank you very much) and you cannot have him get cold or angry at so much of a mention of a life she might have that doesn’t include him and then expect me to believe he’s made peace with her having feelings for more than just him. he’s not even able to accept a scenario where she goes off and does shit that doesn’t involve him as he shows no interest in her life in the little palace for the longest time. meanwhile you can literally read all about alina wondering what happened to him and what he went through trying to get to her. and for the love of saints i would love it if alina would stop acting like she needs to be forgiven for these feelings i absolutely get that she feels conned and ashamed about it but you do not need to ask anyone for absolution for falling someone who made you feel seen for the first time in your life. fuck that noise.
i just know trust issues are gonna arise and i know he doesn’t feel that way truly. if alina turned around and at some point decided to show mercy to the darkling mal wouldn’t understand or accept it and i’d fully expect a guilt trip to ensue.
now that’s my thoughts on mal as a romantic lead and that’s about the biggest aspect of him we’re focusing on but i do think he is a brave man who genuinely cared for his friends and genuinely cares for alina as that whole journey to hunt morozova’s herd definitely proved. he loves her i don’t doubt that but one grand gesture doesn’t excuse the way he treats her earlier in the books is my point and as been pointed out by others i don’t like how much alina relies on him even when he isn’t here. her refusal to let go of him was directly affecting her happiness and overall health as she couldn’t come into her powers before she thought he was lost to her. if i’m not liking who the hero becomes when she’s with the love interest it’s a big indicator i’m not gonna love said love interest as much as i’m clearly expected to by the author. i like mal just fine, he’s not without redeeming qualities, i just don’t love him yet and i may never do and that’s ok.
now i wanna take a moment and a couple sentences (it won’t be a novel i swear, pinky promise!) to talk about the twist that i should have seen coming miles away and i already know once my sister watches the show or reads the book whatever comes first i will be mercilessly teased about not seeing it coming. but when i found out the black heretic and the darkling are one of the same my jaw dropped. as memers might say i took that personally. and even though we have a lot of grounds to covers still and unanswered questions such as is the darkling still alive? if he is what is he up to now? is baghra dead in a ditch somewhere or worse? will alina and genya ever see each other again? why was zoya so standoffish and violent with alina, what’s her story? the question in my mind most prominent is what happened to the darkling? what happened for him to become who he is. i love the quote monsters are not born they’re made and i much prefer to see a villain who wasn’t always one than one who is just evil for the evulz. so i want a backstory and i also wanna learn about baghra while we’re at it.
it’s all fun and well for her to denounce her son’s actions but and i hate to break it to her but YOU RAISED HIM LADY. so yeah baghra’s whole speech to alina is missing parts for sure because she’s not just gonna admit her hands are covered in blood as much as the darkling’s are. not without some pressing at least. 
sooo to cap off all this i guess i would have just two throwaway remarks and that is that i am getting a lot of gay vibes from alina and if i took a shot every time she remarks on genya’s beauty or just gushes about genya in general i’d be drunk by now and i hope we get an actual queer romance somewhere in these books even just between side characters. second remark would be ivan i’m waiting for you to find some redeeming qualities my dude, i was rooting for you! at first he is a raging dickhead about it but seemed to mellow some and then near the end it’s right back to square one and i am really sorry about his brothers dying but having lost family members is not actually a get out of jail free card that gives you free range to mistreat people just because you can.
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willowaudreykeyes · 4 years ago
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Okay: I’ve watched it 4 times and here’s the things about the episode that I find interesting. Or that I’m looking too much into. You guys can all decide because idk.
- Roman seems to make alliterations when he's shocked? He's done it before, but now he's done it again and when he's surprised that Thomas 'lied' or 'tricked' the ticket person.
- Virgil has resting disappointed face even as he eats popcorn.
- Roman is very dramatic about the age thing. "He's in his thirties, he may as well be in his sixties." "Can't think of new excuses quick enough in his old age."
- "I love you" is very big words. Do not use them, or forget them, lightly around Virgil.
- Have they always been on his back so much about lying, or was it only after Janus was introduced?
- Possibility: Romans eyes actually change into hearts when cute guy appears?
- Also: Roman goes into Shakespearean when cute guy appears.
- Roman is so optimistic when it comes to love! But not about other Sides? He's rather pessimistic when it came to Virge (at the beginning) and Janus. And kinda Remus too.
- Roman has used "We don't know if he's not gay" more times then the three can count.
- Pins equals introverts way of talking apparently. I guess that makes sense, since there’s pins for almost every kind of hobby, and Virgil knows this too.
- Roman sounds rather happy when they found out that Nico likes Paramore. Supporting his emo friend and his hobbies right there.
- “The Nightmare Before Christmas” is and will always be a Prinxiety thing. Did you see those star eyes Roman gave? And how happy-surprised Virge was?
- Virgil does think about romance too. “You can live like Jack and Sally, if you want.” Kind of cute.
- Virgil has eyes like a damn hawk. He saw those pins and went full on x10 zoom on them.
- Roman’s got some adorable music happening when more clues appear.
- Sticker/Button System must be followed or Virge no happy.
- Roman is almost as good as Patton with puns, except he has to explain it. Has he done that before? I feel like he has. I feel like this is a thing but I’m not sure.
- Roman and Virgil have about the same wavelength when it came to the creepy stalking-ish part. They both cringe when Thomas goes off to the side.
- If you use a word at the end of a sentence that sounds like a name at Roman, he thinks you got his name wrong. He did it at some other point I can’t remember when but he does this. Kind of feels like a autism and/or ADHD trait? (I know I for sure get confused sometimes)
- “Great... he’s gay” “Great indeed...” “GREAT INDEED” I love them. Just gonna say that again.
- Roman has this big thing about his name and it doesn’t seem like its a thing he’s faking? He seems genuinely confused. The one that’s two above mentions it, and the way he spelt it at the trial? And how he seemed very defensive when Janus spelt it wrong? This is a thing.
- Virgil is a self-proclaimed expert of anti-social etiquette and I say he deserves that title. 
- Virgil also really likes non-verbal ways of communicating. 
- Roman does the thing where you put your two pointer fingers together and its adorable.
- Fast head nod of agreement coming from Roman here. Over dramticness? Or actual quirk?
- Roman very much freaks out when flirting goes wrong. Not just a Virgil thing. 
- Virgil be scaring Thomas with zero regrets when he lost his test that the Universe gave him.
- Virgil be very glad to admit when he’s panicking. He also has admitted when he’s anxious in the past. He knows it, acknowledges it, makes Thomas and the others deal with it because dealing with it isn’t in the job description.
- Roman’s fine with compromise! Virgil gives an idea that attempts to help the romance part, Roman’s not 100% happy but rolls with it. Besties right here (even if they don’t know it). He does have a limit though.
- Nicknames are forever with Roman.
- Virgil is on Thomas’ left side, the more ‘thinky’ side of the brain. Roman is on the right, the more ‘feely’ side of the brain. It’s kind of more obvious in the scene where they grab Thomas a lot.
- Roman really slips with his feelings when he’s stressed. He says stuff that’s usually more about his self-worth. “You’re making a mistake.” “If I am, I’ll add it to the list.” That was said under a lot of stress and frustration. He’s done it before and he’s done it again; except now they don’t address it and it’s just a passing sentence.
- pLaNt
- Virgil would rather embarrass Thomas by making him talk to a stranger, instead of the guy that he thinks is cute? I mean, its very embarrassing by the end of it and Virge barely seems affected by it.
- And now Virgil is compromising. He works with Roman to make sure that Thomas looks okay (the “check your teeth” line).
- idk wtf the sty’s thing is about. Weirdly placed anxiety over it? Or something?
- Roman is very impulsive and basically throws Thomas into the trash can when a bad thing happens in front of a lot of people. Ego was definitely hurt there. Why hide instead of run away? Did Virgil sorta influence that?
- Plans help anxiety. Pretty sure they’ve covered that topic before, but lets just do a recap in this I guess.
- Virgil is half the people on this platform “Cyberstalking... but real life”. I mean, everyone makes a metaphor that has an actual word behind it sometimes. 
- “Try Speaking from the heart” ... I expected Patton, but there has been moments before where a Side who is expected to be there, isn’t there. Logan showed this in “Moving On” when he physically left but he never REALLY left. Patton showing up to add his own words to this may have been too much for him? Or he thought it would be for the others?
- Ah crap here’s the monologue-
- First off, it’s very honest. Full on honesty. With no holding back. And it really hit the feels; but is it realistic though? (Genuinely asking I’ve never been in that kind of situation)
- Very rambly too “I honestly don’t know what I’m doing at the mall today. I don’t know what I was looking for... I guess that answers my question- The mall is where you go when you want something but you don’t know what it is because the mall has everything.” Very rambly, very nervous, very honest.
- Roman and Virgil are very... in awe? Shocked? What is this? Roman looks so contemplative as he looks at himself in the mirror and I wanna be in his brain and know what he’s thinking.
- “I don’t know a lot about anything. Least of all, myself.” Okay, Janus just pulled all the way away for a full minute and forty-eight seconds (this is 99% accurate) to just let Thomas talk and feel didn’t he? This is just complete honesty.
- Anyone would be awkward with the guy coming out of that stall. I’m awkward thinking about it and seeing it again. Moving on-
- “I gotta stop wooing strangers in bathrooms” just a 3000 word fic of at least one other time that he’s done this and I will be yours forever
- Virgil is a dramatic emo who dislikes lying. Crossed arms, waiting outside for him, looks up when he says “you know what I meant”- They’re all part of an actor your at least a LITTLE dramatic.
- Virgil has a big thing about lies and relationships. This has to do with him and Janus’ relationship somehow- It’s about Thomas’ relationships with friends and his romantic life too. He didn’t seem as annoyed about them in the ‘Lies’ song way back when which didn’t mention lying about any type of relationship.
- “Can’t have true love if the relationship isn’t built on truth.” Is this what he was thinking about in the bathroom? Its a cute line either way. 
- Okay, Roman and Janus have some kind of... something. Cause a lot of Roman’s talks about his goals for Thomas pushes Thomas into relying on Janus until Roman realises that it’s morally bad OR (as seen in the talk after the bathroom scene) when he realises that it’ll be bad for Thomas in the long run.
- “Will (D)deceit continue to be the answer to all of your problems? Is that fair to him?” HIM WHO!? Janus or Nico!? Both!? AHHHH! This could mean so much in any direction you throw it but I can’t find the dang words!! “No, he’s better off without me.” This could just be Thomas misunderstanding the ‘him’ Virgil means too or he does understand idk-
- “I was afraid you left!” *INSERT TWO SIDES SCREAMING HERE* Hahaha he’s literally screaming on the inside omg-
- “He fears things too!?” Virgil doesn’t understand how people work when he’s worked up. Duly noted.
- Roman and Virgil equals A Gay Panic
- Thomas’ first thought when panicked is to ask the guy, that he thinks is cute and has been trying to get the attention of for the last while, ‘what is wrong with you?’ ... 10/10 Thomathy
-  .Roman seems... a little resigned that another ‘chance at happiness’ is walking away? I mean, he’s super sad but resigned to his fate. That’s sad as hell. He’s USED TO THIS and I don’t like that 😢
- Virgil’s scene where he looks between, NOT Thomas, but Nico and Roman, is really well done and filled with... a lot. He psyches himself up first of, taking in quick breaths before pushing Thomas, obviously afraid but still doing it anyway. And the look he gives a very resigned Roman looks like its both guilt and sadness. Could just be me thinking that he has a ‘this is my fault’ thing.
- Full on surprise on Roman’s face when Virgil pushes Thomas. No one was expecting that.
- Carrots. The carrots brought them together. Thomas... you don’t have to eat carrots, but at least say ONCE that they aren’t all bad.
- “I like songs” you’ve also written some and sung x5 as many but okay, go with that I guess. (Is this to not brag about being a singer right away? I guess so?)
- If Nico was writing about something that happened midway through his visit to the food court, what was he writing about before that? Did he have nothing until Thomas tripped over the bin?
- “I tend to waste a lot of opportunities in my life” Then cuts to Virgil. Ouch. Direct hit on Virge...
- BRAVERY. (i’ll get back to this-)
- “Shut up, emo.” No complicated nicknames; just the easy picking. Very cute. Very yes. Roman your a sap and its great.
- When Thomas is telling Roman to ‘get out’, he sinks down and is he biting his thumb? He’s still excited. And I’m adding ‘biting’ to his list of stims.
- Virgil claps his hands.  Roman and Virgil both cover their mouths. Both yell. Manic hand movements. Virgil gets Thomas to walks around and flappy hands. (And the nervous pee too I guess?)
- OKAY. EYESHADOW. Big thing, also new. I believe that it may be him ‘growing’ as a Side. First, he believed that he was JUST Thomas’ anxiety. Then comes to term with being more then that, which helps him become a ‘Light Side’. And now, he’s learnt that ‘fear’ and ‘bravery’ can both be present at the same time and is now growing from that as well. So, his back and forth between black and purple could mean a back and forth of the ‘fear’ and ‘bravery’ aspects. Thomas about to send a bad tweet? Black. Optimistic about things ‘never being the same again’? Purple. Thomas bringing up that they just met? Black. Its a promising start? Purple again.  Purple when something optimistic, its purple. Pessimistic, its black. There’s a thing happening there.
- And also, lots of smiley Virgil when he goes purple. Brave enough to smile? Or optimistic enough to be truly happy about it?
- “Join me! No thinking!” Okay, all the ‘Roman Himbo’ stans have already gone nuts over this so I’ll keep going XD
- Roman’s first date idea is to go to France immediately and I love him for being so honestly over-the-top
- Dogs are the demons of anxiety its now a fact. They even bring out the Tempest Tongue, despite hearing the dog ���thirty times a day”.
- Do not tell Virgil to relax. Black eyeshadow. Very on brand tbh. He does not relax and you should know this by now Roman.
All in all; I love them and the entire episode ❤️ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💜
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dr-gloom · 5 years ago
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Some thoughts/analysis on the new episode, because the video itself and people's reactions were bugging me
Disclaimers: I don't hate Patton or Roman, I'm not calling Patton abusive or manipulative, as those terms insinuate knowing what you're doing and I don't think Patton does know how he's coming across
- First I wanna just point out, as a few others have, that Thomas is once again wearing black and white while discussing a grey-area issue. I love the attention to detail
- The recap only really highlights that Thomas admitted to wanting something that contradicted Patton's statement of why he's a good person (or more specifically "perfect", which, as nice and friendly and lovely as that sounds, is a toxic mindset and I like that Thomas touched on that at the end), which is an interesting point to cover honestly, especially since later Thomas challenges Patton to call him a good person
- "Now kiddo, if you're gonna dish out Fs, why don't we make them friendly hugs?" I understand Patton was trying to lighten the mood and joke a little and all that, but he's not letting Thomas just... Be angry/upset. He's trying to control how he feels and steer away from negative emotions, which I thought he learned not to do??
- I love that Patton heard what he was saying and stopped. Good on him. But what he replaced it with is called guilt tripping and that's not much better. "I'm surprised you would say something like that about your friends. I always thought that when it came to your pals, that sort of language would be... Ineffable?" It may sound gentle and sweet, but he's still saying "you can't talk about your friends like that" (and I get it, we all know that's not how Thomas really feels, but again he needs to be allowed to express himself). You can tell from Thomas's face while Patton's talking that the guilt tripping worked, at least for a moment.
- Anyone else notice a little Logan shining through in Thomas's words/actions the first portion of the video?
- "If our goals aligned with his what would that say?" Uhmmm gee lemme think Roman... Maybe that you care about Thomas's mental health and desires???
- I think it's very telling that during the rap Thomas cuts Patton off right before he's about to say something that, judging from the graphics, was going to make him sound heroic and said "I made this choice", while looking very... Upset.
- Okay so when Thomas was all "why didn't I just talk to them???" I felt hella vindicated but the second time I watched I finally heard Roman say "I mean I kinda brought that up before but it got shut down faster than an Antarctic icepop shop". Like... Fuck, they seriously do not appreciate or listen to Roman at all
- Patton brushing them off with "Eh well hindsight is 20/20" pissed me off so much. No empathy whatsoever. Jesus Christ.
- Roman's reaction when Thomas said no to the whole future vision thing made me laugh and no one is talking about it
- But yeah Thomas talking about using foresight has a total Logan Vibe
- Patton's reaction when Thomas says "I made a decision with a blindfold on" is... Interesting...
- Seriously that cat analogy was so specific.....
- One should never base their decisions on "well they've helped me before so I owe them" like. No. Patton, Roman, stop. He should have decided to go because he wanted to, not because he owed it to them or you made him feel like shit
- "Those baby-making Catholics" lmfaooooo
- "You, thinking about giving their wedding a pass all because of a callback that, really, might not work out". That bugged me too, because it can just as easily be argued he gave up his big break for a wedding he barely participated during. If we're being completely logical here (and borrowing from a later concept of how our time is better used), his time would have been better-spent at the callback since he wasn't even mentally present at the wedding
- "Maybe they understand, and maybe they still want you to go to the wedding but feel too guilty to say so. Or, maybe you end up going to the wedding, and they feel guilty seeing you there because they feel like they took a big opportunity away from you". First off, they did (or would have, had the conversation taken place and they insisted he come). Secondly I personally feel like he owed it to them (and yes, I'm aware how that sounds but I can't think of better phrasing) to talk about it with 100% honesty on both sides, because now he's angry that he went to their wedding and they have no idea. Sure, the vid ends with them coming over to catch up, but if it hadn't? That's the kind of shit that festers very easily. I feel like he'd have been more satisfied if he had still decided to go after talking with them. I think Thomas realizes this too when he responds to Roman's question with a very sure, very adamant "No."
- "This was our chance to be there for them when it counted". I know this is me reading into things but it felt like he was saying anything else he may have done for them doesn't matter or isn't good enough
- "Why does their complexion matter" LMFAOOOOOO omg roman
- "... We can all agree that you're a good fellow-" "Can we? All agree on that?" Like fuck, Thomas still isn't sure what Patton thinks of him? That cuts deep. And... Patton still hasn't apologized. He conceeded that he's "been a bit much", which is far from the same thing
- pfffft what the fuck was Roman trying to do???
- "Well that's a relief... I think". Meaning Thomas still isn't fucking sure where Patton stands. I have to admit his dialogue did sound a bit circuitous
- he almost said GameStop lmfao
- why is he fixating so much on frogger
- "At least 16 graphics!" I died laughing
- "By the liquid lipstick of William Shakespeare" wut the fue? Lmao
- "just like you don't have to get him a hotdog" "I feel like you kinda do... Maybe". I know Janus says it later on but he was right when he said peppering in a few "I don't know"s and "maybe"s does not a conversationally-conscious person make. Like, he didn't even add the maybe until Roman reacted negatively to what he was saying
- I'm surprised Logan said it'd be wrong for Thomas to keep his money to himself tbh
- Roman mouthing "behoove". Like, c'mon dude, stop being such a dick to Logan when he's just trying to help
- Logan's so done he's not even trying to hide it. Like you can see the annoyance clear on his little pixelated face
- Also did anyone notice that Logan kept getting cut off so the next time he "spoke" he made them read it aloud so they'd actually fucking listen
- "Yeah! As long as that's not the main reason you're doing it!" Honestly though, most people do good things for their own benefit; tax benefits, That Good Feeling, compliments from others etc. It doesn't diminish the effect of the good act, so who cares?????
- "You shouldn't do a good thing just because it makes you feel good... I-I think." He's trying so hard but he's just not understanding how this works is he. Also it's interesting that he preaches holding to your values and not nitpicking situations yet he's literally doing it right now because last time he just... Needed to counter Janus and couldn't admit he'd had a fair point
- "Deceit said you'd be doing the right thing for a selfish reason if you did it for your own emotional gain". You can tell by his tone he's trying to make Thomas see Deceit as wrong and bad but like literally two seconds later he audibly confirms he feels the same way
"Definitely! Maybe... I think so... What do you think?" Tbh I'm proud of him for asking someone else's opinion, esp cause he's screwing this up so horrendously
- man if Roman being scared to share his opinion after Patton visibly disagrees isn't a huge red flag idk what is
- the world of the video game is called AU I'm screaming
- I'll always be salty that Roman once again shoved a "dark side" into the villain roll without asking
- I don't agree with Patton automatically assuming that just because the hero wants a reward, it means he doesn't care about the people he saves getting it. People can have multiple motives and wanting recognition isn't bad or evil or selfish
- I'm so fucking glad Thomas snapped and asked "am I not allowed to feel good if I do something good" because that's basically what Patton's saying and no one was addressing it. And Patton saying that can't be a valid motive is honestly fucked up
- during the trolley problem the options toggle the most between morality, anxiety, and denial. Idk, it's just interesting
- it's also interesting that Patton views moving the trolley as worse than letting it stay, meaning he thinks small active murder is worse than larger, passive murder. Not bad or good or anything, just interesting
- I hate hate hate that Patton silences Logan when he's the one who asked him to say something, especially since he follows that with "oh you can't really learn good morality from a book hahahaha". Like dude just acknowledge that you don't agree but there are other valid points of view, my god
- also you can tell from the color that Janus totally put that skip button in, meaning Logan really, really wanted to continue but Janus could see it wasn't going to get them where they needed to go
- "stu-ooper dooper unique mustache" lmfaooooo
- Thomas keeps coming back with something along the lines of "I need the answer to X so I can meet your expectations". He even says "I don't understand what I need to change so I can meet your standard". Last time I did a post like this, back when SvS came out, I said Patton has too much sway/control over Thomas, and he still does. Thomas doesn't try nearly as hard to "meet the standards" of his other sides, but in this instance he's desperate to know how he can appease Patton. I don't think that's necessarily a good thing, given that it's likely because he wants Patton to say without hesitation that he's a good person
- Roman thinks he's the problem I wanna cry
- "And I'm an awful driver" I laughed so hard
- "I only mean well when I say that that is the stupidest thing you have ever said" I can't stop laughing XD
- "You're just blowing smoke" seriously someone help me
- Roman's reaction when Thomas says he feels guilty just killed me. They all just acknowledged that Roman is his motivator and Thomas comes out and says his motives make him feel guilty? Ouch
- "Doing nothing is even worse!" Patton honey I'm begging you to please stop talking omg this is going so poorly
- "doing nothing is worse than doing a good thing for the wrong reasons" first off, who's to say what a wrong reason is, and secondly, that's an interesting take from the man who refused to move the trolley 👀
- oooof Thomas's relief when Logan cuts in though
- "Huuuuuhhhh I do need help" fuck, I wanna cry, poor Thomas
- "Logan, like you said this isn't your area of expertise" ITS NOT YOURS EITHER ROMAN OMG
- "Every point you've made in today's discussion has contradicted that sentiment" YES LOGAN JANUS SLAY. Also anyone else notice Patton looking to the others for validation because I Sure Did
- oh man though I thought Logan was finally getting the chance to lay into Patton and take him down a peg and it turned out to be Janus
- "Oh, is it not? Please, correct me if I'm wrong." yeah paTTON CORRECT HIM IF HES WRONG (notice how he doesn't even have an argument to that, all he can say is "you're wrong!")
- honestly the way he goes from 0 to 60 should've tipped us off that that was Janus
- I wanna know if Patton turned into a muscular frog irl
- idk Patton feels like a villain when he's all "Thomas you choose!"
- "What have you done with Logan?!" "Nothing at all and I resent the question" weeeeeelp there goes loceit
- even Janus admits Patton is misleading unintentionally can we all calm down now
- I find it interesting that Thomas willingly stays behind Janus
- "Sure if he's in that kind of situation then of course he should focus on himself. But does he deserve it? I don't know." *Record scratch* excuse me wHAT?????? And like, you can't ignore the obvious symbolism behind that attack missing Janus and hitting Thomas. Thomas is knocked out and Patton just ... Keeps talking? Jesus fucking christ
- and Roman so adamantly attacking Janus has a very pre-AA vibe to it
- "Not that any of you care, but I am unharmed, and I don't want to talk about it." Thomas looks like the only one genuinely concerned when he says this and that hurts
- Janus looks so happy that Logan's backing him I wanna cry my baby aaaaaaa
- SOMEONE FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THE CHOICE ROMAN MADE AAAAAAA THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU can we stop acting like Janus is evil now please
- "Well when is it enough?!" ".... Trees?" I'm STILL LAUGHING SOMEONE HELP ME
- I'm so fucking happy Thomas doesn't agree with Roman about trusting Janus
- Roman laughing and saying Janus's name is stupid and Janus's jab about him and Remus just... Gutted me y'all. Thems some hurt boys. And he looks to Thomas and Patton and they just... Can't side with him, cause they know that was hella fucking rude of Roman.
- I genuinely believe that Janus's nod meant Thomas was telling the truth. Based on his facial expression (which was slight but idk I notice more stuff than most people apparently???) He was trying to reassure Roman. And Roman just... Took it the completely wrong way, because he still thinks all Janus does is lie. When Roman says "wow, I can't believe this" you can actually see Janus's smile disappearing, because he realizes Roman took the nod the wrong way
- aaaaand then he immediately goes into attacking Janus. *Sigh*
- "Everything's gonna be okay, kiddo. We love you." "*Scoff* Right." I truly believe the next video is gonna be about Roman, because there's no way in hell they could ignore the obvious hurt and self-deprecation coming off of Roman
- "Janus? Is there a limit to how many times a person can say sorry before you have to admit that they're just bad for you?" Patton was talking about himself. Whether Janus was trying too hard to be witty and missed that or what, his reply hurt Patton, and you can see that Janus realizes his mistake with Patton's reaction. We have to remember that this isn't a side who's used to how the others communicate, though. He doesn't spend time with them outside of the few videos he's shown up in because of how they treat him. It's gonna take him time to get the little things like this and until then there's gonna be a lot of hurt feelings and (hopefully) apologies
- Janus immediately backtracks once he realizes what the real question was and says "... it depends... How many things have they had to apologize for? How frequently do they have to apologize for things? How terrible were the things that they did? One of the biggest factors in my very humble opinion is whether or not they seem to be making an honest effort to do better" this is Janus trying to tell Patton "you aren't bad for Thomas. I see how hard you're trying. It's okay"
- you can totally see Janus realizing why Patton fights him so hard while Patton is explaining how hard shit's gotten as Thomas grows up
- "Janus?" "I'll take care of him" y'all I need the tissues
- Janus trying to lighten the mood with the whole push-someone-down-the-stairs thing just... Made me die laughing. Y'all know he's hella good at April fool's pranks okay? Okay
- "You're not stuck with an evil snake boy, you're just stuck with a snake boy" HES SUCH A DORK I LOVE HIM
- I reacted the exact same way to Thomas saying Janus was right omg
Again, I'm not saying I hate any of the characters, this is just a stream-of-consciousness analysis-and-commentary-type post on the new episode
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k-writer1998 · 5 years ago
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Rebel Hours (8/18)
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Kwon Jieun always fit her parents’ image of the “perfect” daughter… at least to their knowledge. Away from prying eyes she was like any other girl living life to the fullest doing what she wants. When a little someone named Bang Chan comes into her life priorities are changed, mistakes are made, and her life finally becomes her own.
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w.c: 2.1k
t.w: mentions of attempted assault (idk if I’m tagging this right, I just don’t want to upset someone who didn’t want to read of such things)
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      My body shot up as my heart raced from the terror. So focused on the nightmare that jolted me from my sleep, it took me a moment to realize the layout of the room was wrong. Once my eyes caught sight of grey bedding I knew for a fact I didn’t own a new wave of panic started to rush my system. Quickly looking around the room in an attempt to reorient myself, it was then I noticed the familiar scent of his faint cologne and caught a sight of silver from my hair. Gently pushing myself up to look over the shelf, the sight of Chan’s sleeping figure on the couch eased whatever worries I had left and my body started to relax again. He must have moved me to his bed when I passed out. I tiptoed to the bathroom, grabbing my phone along the way. Among the many messages, Seunghee’s were the most abundant so I quickly let her know I was fine and with Chan. Not even five minutes later my phone buzzed with a call from my worried best friend.
“Jieun are you okay? What happened?! Why are you with Chan? You literally disappeared last night without saying anything.”
“I’m fine Seunghee, I’m sorry. Stuff just happened with Kyunghoon and I didn’t know what to do. I needed to get away from there and without realizing it I ended up calling Chan,” I whispered.
“What happened with Kyunghoon?” 
      Venom dripped from her voice. I didn’t want to tell her but I knew she would find out either way. Maybe if she heard from me she wouldn’t immediately try to kill him.
“... He tried to force himself on me…” 
      My voice was small and I tried to take a calming breath to steady myself but was interrupted when Seunghee started screaming about how she would hurt the boy.
“Seunghee please don’t do anything,” I quickly spit out before adding, “When I get home I’ll explain fully and we can talk about how much you can and cannot hurt him, okay?” 
“Jieun he literally tried to attack you. What do you mean I can’t hurt him?!”
“You know what it’s like in our circle. That is a big accusation to make against a CEO’s son, especially a CEO like Kyunghoon’s dad. The only person who would take a hit is me.”
“Fine but I will make him pay. No one is going to do something like that and get away with it, especially to my best friend, not on my watch. When will you be coming home?”
“Whenever Chan wakes up I guess.”
“You know that’s going to be a whole nother conversation right?”
“Yes, I know. See you soon.”
      I hung up the phone with a sigh. I love her and her protectiveness but that will be a long conversation when I get home… and once Chan wakes up. I want him to know everything he’s getting into if he dates me. Let’s hope he still wants to after everything I’ve put him through… I gave myself an encouraging look in the mirror before quietly stepping out. Chan had apparently already woken up, looking  just as dazed from waking up on the couch as I was waking up in his apartment.
“Sorry, did I wake you?”
“No, no. It’s fine. How are you feeling?”
“Better than last night, that’s for sure.”
      The air grew heavier, neither of us knowing how to approach the situation. I shifted from one foot to another for a moment before I slowly approached the couch and sat at the far end where his feet sat before he moved it to make space. Might as well get it over with… 
“I know a lot has happened in the past couple of hours and you’ve probably had questions for awhile now so I owe you an explanation… for everything.”
“Among other things, but yeah let’s start with the explanation.”
      He let out a hollow laugh as he tried to rub the exhaustion from his face. I carefully moved closer to Chan and waited until he looked back at me before I continued. 
“My full name is Kwon Jieun, congressman Kwon Jaesuk is my dad. His job has me presenting myself in a specific way but that wasn’t me. With the liberties of going away for college, I did the things I’ve always wanted to do but was never allowed to and it made me feel… real.”
“What do you mean by that?”
“My fashion sense with the dyed hair and tattoo doesn’t really scream daughter of an “upright and just politician” but I feel more me this way. Sadly, in his line of work I’m an extension of my dad and as I can’t change my parent, I covered up and continued to live as their golden child.”
“Okay, then why hide it from me? At first, sure it makes sense, but I thought there was more between us then just… whatever you thought was going on apparently…”
      The evident pain in his voice stung and I’m reminded I wasn’t the only one who felt the sparks between us. Even more so since I haven’t been clear with my feelings for him and to add I’ve been trying to make this a lot more lighthearted then it actually is. It’s time to be serious cause he deserves that… which also means I have to put everything out on the playing field.
“To be frank this,” I gestured between the both of us, “wasn’t supposed to be more than innocent flirting on that first night yet somehow I still ended up going back… I know things were getting serious between us but that’s also what scared me so instead I ran from you.”
“Why were you scared?”
      I hesitated, all the preparing and encouragement I built up flew out the window once I actually had the chance to come clean. The fear of losing him grew and blocked the words in my throat for a moment before being set free at the heartbreak in his voice.
“Jieun, I’m not doing this if there are any more secrets because if those secrets mean you disappearing again… I can’t. I need all the cards on the table.”
“... The reason why I was scared and why I ran was because I don’t want my parents ruining your life. They’ve done it before; almost destroyed my then boyfriend’s chance to get an audition at his dream school. I would hate myself if something of that caliber happened to you.”
“Doesn’t that only happen in dramas? Why would they do that?”
“I wish it stayed in the dramas… They believe I should be with someone of status who has connections because apparently anything less would be soiling my father’s reputation. And don’t ask if I’ve tried to fight it, messing with my ex’s competition was the price I paid for rebelling.”
“Then why did you call me out of everyone you knew? It seems you made up your mind that we weren’t something to fight for...”
“I couldn’t help it. No matter what, you are always the first thought on my mind. When I told you I couldn’t stay away after that first night, I meant it.” 
“Then what about the guy you met at the cafe by the university?”
“Cafe… wait you were there?”
“Yeah I was on my way to meet Changbin and Jisung.”
      Shit Chan must have gotten out of class early that day and I was blowing him off. Ugh then he texted me, I lied straight to his face, and he knew it was a lie. I moved to hold his hand and he didn’t pull away. I took that as a good sign and explained.
 “That was my ex-boyfriend. I wanted to clear the air after everything with my parents. I didn’t want my past to come back and haunt me because I want an us for you and me.”
      My voice dropped at the end. This was basically a confession and I’m far too sober to not get embarrassed by my forwardness at this point. His eyes scanned my face for deceit.
“I thought you were scared.”
“Emphasis on “was.” You are different than any other guy I’ve liked because no matter what, somehow I’ll find my way back to you. Like gravity keeps us grounded there is this force that always pulls me towards you. Who am I to defy gravity when neither of us want that?”
“And your parents?”
“I’ve been tired of hiding from them. I have a chance to be happy and I’m not going to let anyone stop me, that is… if you want to continue down this road with me?”
“Like I said, if being with you means danger it’s definitely worth the risk.”
      As he said that his hand finally clasped mine, a faint smile gracing his face. His eyes softened and I knew what was next. There’s still one part of the story I have yet to indulge upon.
“So about last night…” He gingerly started.
“Since the school year started my parents were trying to set me up with their friend’s son, more so when I took two weeks leave for my dad’s campaign. They are a powerful family and would be a great asset to my father’s campaign but as every businessman is, nothing comes for free.”
“So they were using their kids as pawns?” 
      His grip tightened slightly and I offered him a weak smile. I know how wrong it sounds but in the upper circles this was normal and although my parents never hinted at doing something like this, it wasn’t something I put beneath them.
“We were introduced last night. He was conceited and sleazy but I had to put up with him for my parents. After a while I needed a break from his constant self-praise so I excused myself to the bathroom and when I came out he… he…”
      My voice broke as the words struggled to leave my mouth. Having to recall the events of last night clearly brought back the terror. My thoughts were interrupted by Chan pulling me between his legs as his arms pulled me in, his chin resting on my shoulder. His overall presence eased my mind and I sat there, absorbing his warmth for a few moments before speaking again.
“... he forcefully groped and kissed me before I probably broke his toe with my heel and practically sprinted out of there.”
      When the words passed my lips they felt as disgusting coming out as they did forming in my mouth. His hands turned to fists, knuckles white with how tight he was squeezing them. I held one of his fists in my hands and gently pried it open. Chan's arms tightened around me, his hands finding its way to play with my hands. I jerked slightly when he grabbed my wrist to flip my hand over. Before I could pull away from his grasp he took the sleeve and pulled up, exposing the bruises. His gaze turned to me as anger and dismay swirled in his eyes.
“... He did this?”
      There was a dangerous tone to his voice that sounded so unfamiliar from the gentle teasing one I was used to. I wordlessly nod and gently remove his hand to hold again.
“Did he hurt you anywhere else?”
“Chan-”
“Jieun, did he hurt you anywhere else?”
“... just my upper arm on the left side when he grabbed me…”
      He was quiet, almost as if he was contemplating something but I didn’t want him to dwell too long so I broke the silence after a few moments. 
“I’m okay, let’s forget it,” I coaxed softly.
“Jieun this isn’t a small matter.”
“It isn’t but I have everything handled. My best friend’s family deals with security so he won’t get away. I can tell you want to do something about it but please don’t, for me? He’s not worth it.”
“Fine… I just wish I could have been there to prevent it…"
"Hey," I spoke softly as I brought my hand up to play with his hair, "you were there when I needed you and that's what matters. Thanks for that by the way, after everything you still came."
"I could tell something was wrong when I heard the voicemail. I couldn't leave my girl alone when she was in trouble."
      He pulled away and finally gave me that dimple-showing smirk that makes my heart flutter. He was willing to fight for this and so was I because Bang Chan was one of a kind and I wasn’t going to lose him.
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jowritesthingss · 5 years ago
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Motherfluffer
Fandom: Sanders Sides
Pairing(s): Prinxieceit(?) (Roman | Creativity + Virgil | Anxiety + Janus | Deceit), Intrulogicaliceit(?) (Remus | Dark Creativity + Logan | Logic + Patton | Morality + Janus | Deceit), idk the proper ship names but tbh it’s just Janus + everyone honestly
Rating: Teen (for some swearing)
Content Warning(s): swearing, teasing, lemme know if there are any I should add bc I got nuthin’ atm lol
Length: 4,239 words
Brief Summary: A bullet fic about Janus’ hair, because this is one of the important things in life obviously. (Which, for the other five sides, it really is. Duh.)
TS Masterlist + AO3 Links
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SO
under his hat, Janus actually has really, really fluffy hair
it’s nice and soft and puffy and glossy and it’s honestly fricking beautiful because he takes so much pride in his appearance as a whole that he can’t just not take care of his hair, even if he hates it
which, he does, for that matter, hate his hair
it’s just...yeah, it looks nice, and it feels nice, but...it’s so fluffy and cute, and Janus of all people is most certainly not supposed to be cute, so in that it is utterly detestible, Janus thinks
hence why he is always wearing his bowler hat
it’s just seemingly nonsensical that deceit of all sides would have a mess of floof atop his head. it doesn’t look very serious or scary or snake-y at all, it doesn’t suit him whatsoever, and the decided lack of aesthetic of it all is horrid, if you ask Janus
(not that anyone would ask Janus, because none of the other sides know about his hair, nor will they ever know about it if Janus gets his way with it)
((he doesn’t. get his way with it, that is))
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our story begins with that first Sanders Sides Asides, in which Roman steals Janus’ hat to use when they’re “voting” on which movie to watch together
contrary to popular belief, Janus does actually kinda-sorta want to join them all for movie night
(Frozen isn’t good, he totally hates it, he doesn’t identify with Hans at all and he totally doesn’t hate Disney for doing Hans a dirty with their last-minute decision to turn him into a bad guy)
besides, even Remus is going to this movie night thing, for goshsake
and even if the others still don’t really like him, surely they can tolerate being in the same vicinity as Janus if he’s quiet and shuts up and just watches the movie, right??
(he doesn’t even have to sit with them on the couch or hell, he doesn’t even have to be in the living room at all. he can just stand in the kitchen or sit on the stairs and watch from there if that makes them all feel better)
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so Janus is preparing to get ready for the movie night
he’s wearing his darkest black capelet and his nicest silk yellow shirt and the slacks he knows make his butt look best, and he’s even doing actual fancyish makeup too to top it all off. and if asked he’ll say it’s just because Thomas had been planning on going out for the night, hadn’t he
(it’s not because he cares what the other sides think of him and how he looks. it’s not because they’re all stupidly attractive without even trying and because he’ll never be able to measure up to all that because of his goddamned snake face. it’s not because he wants to impress them. it’s not)
and at last, Janus is ready to ascend into the real world and descend down the stairs in swirls of darkness to rival even Virgil and dramatics to rival even Roman’s
and he goes to grab his beloved black bowler hat with the satin ribbon from its usual spot on a peg by his bedroom door and it’s not there where is it where—
Janus searches high and low and left and right and everywhere in his room he could think it would be and even some weird places, like the top of his wardrobe and in the toilet in his bathroom and under the trash can (not just in it, under) but he, he just can’t find it anywhere, where could it possibly have gone??
and he’s not like Remus or Roman he can’t just Imagine one into Being like they can so he doesn’t have anything else to cover his hair
(he’s not about to cry he’s not)
so when he hears the others thunder by his room and sink out to go watch movies with Thomas he thinks about sinking out with them, regardless of whether his hair is visible or not, but he shakes his head violently because he can’t he just can’t, the others still don’t really like him and they’ll just make fun of him and they won’t take him seriously anymore and it’s taken so much work fitting into this ominous villain persona just to get them to halfway listen to him already
(and he isn’t actually crying now he isn’t)
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eventually he calms down enough to appear in the real world at the top of Thomas’ stairs, deciding to call out to the others at a break between movies, just to ask if anyone’s seen his hat without letting them really see him
and what should he see when he peeps out
but his hat
and it’s clutched in Roman’s attractive grubby hands
and he gets swept away in his anger at Roman for taking his precious hat without at least asking first, especially when he can literally just conjure his own fucking hat, dammit—so without thinking, Janus marches into the living room to take it back
he loses steam halfway down the stairs and shit he’s regretting his emotion-ridden decision but it’s too late to go back now
and even though Janus is pressing down on his hair and trying to hide it, it’s miserably obvious that his hair is a soft floofy mess even as his demeanor and expression are neither soft nor floofy
the others all stare and gape at his head, then they all exchange a Look with each other and he sees it and he knows what it must mean, he knows
he rushes out some sort of scolding at Roman, he’s not even sure what he said, really, just anything to distract them from his hair, only it doesn’t work, they’re still staring, why won’t they stop staring
he leaves the room as quickly as he can, leaving all dignity behind in his rush
but he can’t help but linger at the top of the stairs
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Janus listens in on the others with bated breath and a sinking feeling in his chest, worried that they’re going to say something about his hair and yet he’s too much of a masochist to try and ignore it and leave
“oh. my gosh,” Patton says in awe, and he must be so in awe at how stupid Janus looks with his hair, he must be wondering how it’s even possible for someone to look so absurdly pathetic
(spoiler alert: nopenopenope. Patton trying to figure out how he never realized just how attractive Janus is)
“did you see his hair??” Roman says incredulously, and there’s some unknown emotion tightly contained in his voice. he must be trying hard not to burst into that boisterous laughter of his. Janus privately doesn’t think he looks all that bad, really, even with his scales and the halo of hair that surrounds him, but of course Roman of all people would find it especially silly and use it against him
(actually, Roman’s really just trying hard not to fangirl. that’s pure gay panic he’s trying to tamp down on babey)
“that’s what I’ve been trying to tell you dorks!” Remus says and god, that feels like a slap in the face to Janus. Remus ratted him out? just like that?? they’d been each other’s only friend for years and then Remus goes and gets accepted-ish by the light sides and then that’s it. just like that, huh.
(fuck that betrayal stings like nothing he’s felt before but he’s not going to let on about that)
Janus watches as the other sides clump together and begin discussing something even his most excellent snakey hearing can’t pick up, but he’s sure they’re insulting him and making fun of his hair
(spoiler alert: they’re actually just making a game plan to figure out how they can all touch his floofy hair and using Thomas as a sounding board)
and eventually he hears the other sides burst into laughter
which Janus, listening in, hears
and he’s hurt because he always knew they wouldn’t take him seriously how he is, things like that are the very reason he wore his hat in the first place, why did stupid fucking Roman have to take his hat and force him to reveal himself like this??
Janus slinks off, shoving the hat back down on his head, hard
and if he’s kinda heartbroken over it all, no way in hell is he about to acknowledge it
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the whole rest of it just follows all the other sides just absolutely becoming obsessed with Janus’ hair and subsequently falling in love with him lmao
after that one time Roman took Janus’ hat, everyone just keeps trying to steal his hat the second he lays it down or takes it off for the night
(Patton shoves an entire pack of gum in his mouth all at once, cheeks puffed up like a chipmunk’s, and then as he passes Janus lying down and blep-ing in the afternoon sun he “accidentally” spits it all out on his hat just to get Janus to take it off to clean it.)
((he blinks once. once. once and Patton has torn it away out of his hands, reaching out a hand and mussing up Janus’ already-messy hat hair, and then dancing just out of reach, promising to go clean it for him as an “apology”))
so Janus starts wearing his hat more and more and more, regardless of the circumstances the others keep trying to catch him under
(“gee, isn’t it hot in the mindscape today!” Roman pants, shirtless and sweating his ass off, after having literally turned the heater up to eighty-four fucking degrees Farenheit, right as Janus watched him. “sure makes you wanna shed a few layers of clothing. hahaha. like...oh, I dunno, maybe that hat of yours...? and, ahm, maybe that lil cape and mmmaybeee your shirt too pretty pretty please?”)
((which, Janus does end up removing his shirt, only because Roman promises him half the money he bet Virgil on Janus having a six pack—and who knows why Roman’s talking to boyfriend about another man’s abs but hey, Janus isn’t one to judge—but the bowler hat stays firmly placed on top of his head))
(((that day his wallet expands by twenty bucks, and his satisfaction expands immeasurably when he sees Virgil next and the anxious side’s face immediately flushes dark red)))
((((yeah, that’s what you missed out on when you left the dark sides, ya lil bitch. ha))))
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the other sides’ ploys to get his hat off of him and his hair in fluffing distance spiral more and more and more
once he even catches Logan—yeah, that’s right, stupid McSerious Mr. Logan N. Sanders (the N stands for Necktie)—trying to head a goddamn sting operation with his boyfriends, trying to take the hat from right off his head while Janus is reading in the mindscape’s living room
(there was a fishing pole, a grappling hook, a pair of Virgil’s surprisingly emo underpants, and an exorbitant amount of Cheez-Its involved and Janus really, really regrets learning this information)
((he totally steals that pair of MCR boxers when the Logan, Patton, and Remus aren’t looking though))
.
.
.
anyways
ahem
petty panty theivery aside, the other sides are all getting increasingly more desperate, and they’re not even bothering to hide it at this point, even
and Janus just doesn’t get why they’re trying so hard to embarrass him and insult him like this
like, maybe it’s because he totally schooled them after the whole wedding fiasco??
because Thomas did accept him, and technically the others did too, no matter how grudgingly, but he supposes that Thomas accepting him could have forced everyone else’s hands, so maybe this is their way of making fun of him even as they’re not supposed to verbally insult him anymore??
but regardless of why they’re doing it, now Janus has to take to wearing his hat everywhere
like, literally everywhere, or else it’ll be stolen if he so much as blinks or takes his eyes and hands off it for even a second
literally
remus tries to sneak up on him in the shower and grab his hat off the counter only to find a drenched Janus, fully naked save for the bowler hat, glaring sourly at him from the shower as he attempts to stealthily creep into the bathroom
he even has to wear the hat places like in bed, because otherwise the others Will take the opportunity to steal it
once he wakes up to Patton staring at him, the moral side’s eyes wide as he lays on the other side of his bed, one of his arms reaching out to Janus’ head and fucking caressing his hair
(and no, his stomach does Not do weird flips at that, it doesn’t)
((will he ever actually start to believe these lies he’s telling himself??))
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everyone keeps finding more and more and more ridiculous ways to get Janus to take off his hat and more and more ridiculous places to accidentally “misplace” it
Janus still is convinced that they’re pulling all of this shit just because they wanna laugh at his hair and insult him
(but no! it is because they are all useless gays that rly rly rly like the floof of hairs on his head)
at some point Patton or Roman or someone literally just. fucking freezes his hat in a block of ice in the freezer
it is at this point that Janus decides he has had Enough
and at this point he can’t even lie to himself anymore and say that he isn’t crying
(and thank god he found his hat when going down to get a glass of water in the middle of the night, and not the following morning at breakfast, because then the others would see him so fragile like that and even if they’ve already seen his stupid fucking hair they certainly don’t deserve to see him this vulnerable)
but he carries the tub of ice with his precious hat in it back to his room, glass of water forgotten
and he’s silent but he’s shaking and he’s sobbing and he just. doesn’t know what to do anymore in response to any of this
because he’s just so, so tired of the others teasing him like this and he doesn’t know if it’s normal or not because he has no prior experience with them
—all Janus knows of the light sides is that back before the whole hat and hair thing started spiralling so far out of control, it was actually kind of nice to be around them sometimes
like, not to be cliché or anything
but passionately arguing over Disney with Roman and Virgil was really nice, reading and co-existing with Logan was an excellent wind-down from busy days, talking theatre and doing kinda-sorta-almost-horny-but-not-quite dirty dancing with Roman was fun, Patton was a surprisingly excellent co-conspirator for pranks, Remus and Logan were surprisingly excellent victims for said pranks, Virgil and he had finally made up and were maybe even flirting a little bit again, and things had just. they had been nice—
so excepting the whole hat and hair thing, things had been oh so nice and friendly and maybe even flirty between him and the other sides
only now it isn’t now it’s horrible and he just doesn’t understand why they can’t leave him alone already or at least stop beating around the bush and tell him why they won’t just leave him alone—
and god fucking dammit, it just hurts so fucking much because he likes them all so, so much that he can’t even pretend not to anymore. he likes them all, and he wants them all to like him too, but with all the pestering they’ve been doing it just doesn’t feel like they do
and like, is this mean-spirited or not? he honestly can’t tell, he can’t read any of them at all on this, and it’s so strange because usually he can
and, and maybe, just maybe, it isn’t, maybe they’re just flirting or teasing or all in fun or whatever, but still it hurts
then if it truly is mean-spirited, can’t they just tell him and leave him to lick his wounds in private instead of popping up literally everywhere and scaring him half to death?
but whatever the reason behind it all, the subterfuge and the glances when they think he’s not looking and the weird emotion on their faces when they watch him hiss and try to grab his hat back and all the mixed signals he’s getting now are too too much and—
—and Janus, he knows how to be quiet. he knows how to tell a lie. if they want to hate him and pretend to get along around Thomas it’s fine, it’s nothing he hasn’t dealt with before
(it’ll hurt like a bitch but he’ll be fine)
((he’s lying to himself again he won’t be fine))
but he’s just getting so much attention, and so much of it is on his hair, one of the things he hates the most about himself, and he’s
he’s just so tired
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and so Janus, with a heavy heart, starts straightening his hair every morning without fail
he lets his hair go all greasy and unwashed and unkempt and it hurts him to stop taking care of himself like that, but maybe, just maybe, if he does they’ll all lose interest in his hair and finally just stop
only the others are actually? really devastated?? and genuinely concerned???
and so all the other sides corner him and ask him why
in self-defense (but also out of hurt) he somewhat nastily comments something along the lines of “what, so you can’t make fun of it anymore, huh?”
and the others are hurt and there’s a bit of shouting and anger until someone comes out and admits that like,,, “no dude you’re literally the hottest/cutest of all of us and uhhh we all love you and kinda wanna date you lol”
and then Janus is like
uhm.
what.
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everyone is reeling from the reveal, and oh so confused, so at Logan’s insistence they all take a big step back to calm down from the confrontation that just happened
Patton offers to go make some hot cocoa and warm up some brownies for everyone to help them all de-stress a little bit, and Logan bustles off after his boyf to help him
Virgil insists that Janus take a bath to get all clean, and he actually offers to help Janus bathe
(god, that’s such a flashback to when they were younger, when things were easier)
((Janus bites back a strangled, choked-up laugh as he remembers him, Virgil, and Remus all squished in a tub together as children, only back then it was the two of them trying to make Remus wash his hair, not vice versa))
and this time Virgil asks before touching him, offering to wash Janus’ hair for him to help get the week-and-a-half’s worth of grime out of it, and Janus is tired and the water is warm and Virgil is safe(?) so he says yes and
and oh
Virgil’s hands scratch up against his scalp, soft and feather-light, and it actually feels really, really...good
there in that tub, Janus slowly starts to relax for the first time in what feels like months
then, when he’s done washing Janus’ hair, Virgil leaves to let Janus have some time to relax and soak in private
Janus sits there in the tub, head tipped back against the cool porcelain, relishing in the warm water surrounding him
he still doesn’t really know why the other sides have been doing what they’ve been doing
but all the same, he’s not quite so anxious about what they’ve been doing anymore
surely if Virgil of all people has been so soft
surely things can’t be so bad as he had himself convinced
(maybe things can be okay after all?)
-
when Janus finally gets out of the bath, Roman and Remus are standing wordlessly outside the bathroom, holding out a ridiculously fuzzy pair of yellow-and-black pajamas with cartoon snakes for him
and there, on top of the pajamas, his hat
no, no, wait a minute
that isn’t his hat, it’s a...a new one
...for him?
Janus looks up at Roman, who nods, his expression surprisingly shy, then he looks over at Remus, who grins almost nervously at him, looking at him weirdly delicately
the bowler hat is clean and shiny and velvety and black, with a satin yellow ribbon at the brim just like his old one, only this new one has small polka-dots that, upon further inspection, are actually really, really tiny versions of all the sides’ different insignias—so that a little piece of them all can be with him, Roman explains, even when Janus doesn’t feel comfortable actually being in their presence
(he’s not really sure how he doesn’t break down at that, but Janus manages to hold out until after he’s swathed in fuzzy warmth and after he goes downstairs to talk things over with the others)
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the six of them make themselves sit down in the living room and talk it all out over hot cocoa and warm mushy brownies
Janus opens up about how he hates his hair, how he wears his hat to hide how fluffy and soft it is, how he thought that they would never listen to him or take what he says seriously because of it, how scared he was that they were doing it because they hated him, how overwhelmed he was over them showing up everywhere and invading his space and taking his hat and playing with his hair without at least asking first
and the others explain that they were just trying to have fun and flirt with them. that first time they saw Janus’ hair he hadn’t even technically been accepted by them yet, but nevertheless, even back then they only wanted to comment on how soft it looked. on their side, it had been a bet—to see who could get Janus’ hat off again next, to see who could touch Janus’ hair first and figure out what it felt like—but then it had morphed into gay panic and them all falling for Janus, hard
Roman, Virgil, Patton, Logan, and Remus all apologize big-time to Janus
they assure him that they hadn’t meant anything bad over it, and that they really did love him and want to all be involved with him, and that they would never actively try to maliciously insult or tease him like that, and that they didn’t realize that he wasn’t just flirting back when he protested the whole hat thing
(which, Janus realizes that he kind of had been back in the beginning, just a little bit, before the teasing went way too far)
but just because the others hadn’t deliberately meant anything mean doesn’t mean that it didn’t hurt him, nevertheless
so the five of them acknowledge and apologize for not realizing Janus’ discomfort and for not ensuring that the environment was one in which he felt safe in admitting his discomfort to them
and Janus admits that, now he knows for sure that it isn’t anything bad, he really doesn’t mind them touching his hair or any other part of him, really, but they really need to ask first, because things that feel nice some times don’t feel so nice other times
so they all have a nice long talk about boundaries and about how consent extends way past just sexual activity
and what kind of hurt/comfort fic would this be if Janus isn’t passed around everyone’s laps while everyone softly peppers kisses all over him and reassures him that they love him and they love his hair and they love his scales and they love his everything? so naturally that happens, and it’s all very very mushy and sweet and cavity-inducing
and everyone assures Janus that he and his hair are fully worthy of love and that they’re happy to love both even as he can’t bring himself to love himself just yet—if he’ll have them all, that is
and Roman + Virgil ask Janus to date them, and Logan + Remus + Patton ask him to date them too because yay gays and yay polyamory
and maybe Janus is crying a bit after the others admit that they actually really like how he looks, snake face, fluffy hair, and all, maybe he’s crying as he says that yes, he really does like them all and want to be with them
but he’s not about to admit it, of course
besides, he’s got his head turned to kiss Roman, soft and chaste and long and sweet, and Patton’s in his lap with hands under his shirt, gently rubbing just above his hipbones, and Virgil’s pressed against his side, holding his hand and squeezing carefully, and Remus is on the floor, curled around his calves and playing with the fuzz of his pajama pants, and Logan massages at the base of his neck even as his brand new hat sits perched atop his head
so Janus most certainly has an excuse for not admitting anything (or saying anything else, really) for a long, long while
Fin
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Why is this literally over four thousand words what the fvck
Anyways, maybe one day I’ll write this like a proper fic, but in the meantime I wanted to share it as a bullet fic! :) If you want to create something yourself that’s based on this, be it writing or art or whatever, please feel free to! PLS do tag me tho bc fluffy-haired Janus is LIFE and I want to see it ALL. o.O
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walterdecourceys · 5 years ago
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types of fanders
Vanilla Fander
Sticks to canon religiously
Portrays the light sides as sympathetic and the dark sides as unsympathetic/neutral
Either doesn't ship anything or only ships prinxiety and logicality
Somehow unaware of discourse unless it’s pointed out to them
Has a life outside of fandom?? and is mostly emotionally stable?? like what the heck
Intruloceit Fander
Loves Logan, Deceit and Remus A LOT
Likes unsympathetic Patton/Virgil
I think they've forgotten that Roman exists
Will personally destroy anyone who makes unsympathetic dark sides content
Really loves intrulogical and/or intruloceit
Has at least 3 mental health problems and posts about them regularly
Very big in tagging discourse (they will steal your kneecaps if you tag something with "tw deceit")
Logan Stan
Same as above they just love Logan more
Patton Fander
Adores Patton with their whole heart
Very much has a "soft pastel" aesthetic
Probably is a big fan of moceit and/or intruality
There's also a good chance they love the dark sides as well
Represses their emotions a lot and makes Patton angst to cope
Desperately trying to stop people from fighting about fandom related stuff
Am I calling myself out here? Maybe
Roman Stan
You can probably guess they like Roman Sanders
Is very concerned for Roman's mental wellbeing
Probably has made a list of all the times Roman was ignored in the series
They're projecting onto Roman guys. They're projecting so much
I mean they post other stuff too but it's mostly their love for Roman
Um they probably ship roceit or prinxiety
Please someone hug them
""""""Secret Pro Ship Blogs""""""""'
I apologize for including them
We all know what they do right? I don't need to spell it out for you?
Good let's move on
Cryptid Fanarter
Posts content once a week and nothing else
Hardly even reblogs stuff
Sir this not how we do it on tumblr dot com you either share every detail of your life or you pack
You realize they're a sideblog for fanart so you waltz on over to their main blog and there's no information on there either what the heck????
The fanart's pretty though
12 Year Olds
May or may not actually be 12
Ships ONLY prinxiety/logicality/maybe dukeceit
Thinks Deceit and Remus are evil
Idk who their favorite character is probably Virgil
I don't think they actually exist anymore but I've heard ghost stories about them
Reblog Fanders
IDK what to tell you they just reblog stuff
The Legends
Most people in the fandom know who they are
So they have mild Tumblr fame
Don't even post about Sanders Sides that much but we all know they watch it
Tired Fandom Parent
Bagels
For some reason a lot of people in the ts fandom have "bagel" in their username
Idk why but they deserve a shoutout too
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maxinajar · 5 years ago
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so it seems that people enjoyed my Tangled the Series Sanders Sides au post, so i thought id make a post explaining my reasons for which characters are who and a few changes i made to the plot.
warning: this will contain spoilers for all three seasons of tts, so beware.
So first, Patton as Rapunzel:
I feel like this one is very self explanatory if youve watched both series
Patton is sweet and bubbly and sucks at accepting his more negative emotions
Raps is sweet and bubbly and sucks at accepting her more negative emotions
See? it just fits
There is also the bit of controlling/condecending attitude that they both share
Its not a big part of their character, but it is a flaw that spurs the plot
Deceit as Eugene
Ok, so Eugene is a theif, and he has lied a lot
Those two things just make deceit a perfect candidate for him
Also, they both have a flair for the dramatics and its great
I almost made Roman Eugene but the more i thought about it the more it just didnt click
Idk, feel free to disagree
Throughout the series, Eugene suffers several identity issues. From not being sure what he is supposed to do after stopping being a thief, to finding out he is actually a long lost prince, Eugene has a lot of issue identifiying who he is
That just screams Deciet to me, because (while he hasnt exactly been that fleshed out yet in the series) his tendency to dress up as other people tells me he might have a bit of identity issues himself
Logan as Varian
Smart boys
Just want to prove themselves useful to the people they look up to
I just feel like Logan was a natural choice for Varian (although, i almost made virgil varian, but hes not nearly nerdy enough. also hes just a better fit with cass)
I did have to change his story just a bit tho, cuz i ran out of characters to place
So instead of his dad getting trapped in amber and causing his descent into villainy
Its Rudiger! or Remus i guess.
I will explain that later
But yeah, I havent worked out all the details yet (so if anyone has any ideas they would like to contribute that would be cool)
Roman as Lance
Dramatic boys
Tbh, this one was kind of a throw away placement
Not that i dont think it fits
Cuz it definitly does
But there really wasnt much thought behind it other than, huh i think roman would fit there
Also thinking of Deciet and Roman singing the buddy song was adorable
Virgil as Cassandra
Snarky and sarcastic
Both kind of have that emo aesthetic going on
Tend to be a bit pessimistic
evil
Just listen to Crossing the Line and tell me that it doesnt scream patton and virgil at you
Also the banter with Deceit is perfect
Idk, this one just fit perfectly
and finally, Remus as Ruddiger
Trash boys
Chaotic and adorable
He can talk in this au
blame @shadowenbynerd for that one
they are just both chaotic and the thought of him and logan messing around in a lab fills me with unending joy
So, thats all the thoughts i had regarding this au. Feel free to add anything you feel fits or open a discussion on why you think one of these things doesnt fit. I just want to talk about it honestly.
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asknightqueendany · 4 years ago
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God, I just can not stand people who continue to support and defend S8 Sansa/Arya’s behavior. I just came across a gif edit (made by a Sansa Stan of course) that was a clip of Jon in the Godswood saying “if you only trust the people you grow up with, you won’t make any allies” - you know defending Daenerys who has done nothing at this point to be treated like this, and op followed that gif with a bunch of clips of Sansa and Arya making friends and ‘trusting’ people. (1/?)
then the last panel was edited with Arya saying “what the fuck are you talking about Jon?” They went on to shame Jon for essentially trying to encourage them to trust Daenerys (you know, the person who just sacrificed a fuckton by coming to help in the battle against the dead while Cersei stayed up in KL), saying “they don’t need Jon to make inept disrespectful statements about trusting people they didn’t grow up with blah blah blah” (2/?)
and that this edit was somehow proof that Sansa and Arya DiDn’T hAvE tRuSt IsSuEs. They said “they trust people fine, they’ve done it the whole series, even when it was sometimes a mistake to do so” and that Sansa’s greatest flaw was actually trusting people too much and that’s why this is such a GrEaT sCeNe CaUsE cHaRaCtEr GrOwTh. (3/?)
And of course this entire tirade is sprinkled with tidbits of Dany bashing like how Dany is clearly an evil tyrant, how she threatened Sansa to Jon’s face so how dare he lecture Sansa and Arya on not trusting her and that, I quote, “both Sansa and Arya have already taken the measure of Daenerys and the weight they’ve come away with is: “Danger, abort, save the family from inevitable destruction.” (4/?)
They also take a few jabs at Jon by saying “he’s literally only alive because Sansa contacted one of her abusers to save them all”. Good lord. I can’t understand it. I literally can not understand how anyone can watch S8 up to that scene in the Godswood (and you know the few minutes afterward when Sansa immediately turns around and breaks her sacred vow, betraying both Jon and Daenerys) and not think “wow, these people suck, they really don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves”. (5/?)
Especially after Arya’s incredibly selfish and insensitive sentiment of “yeah, yeah, we appreciate her people dying for us and all that, but now if they could get the fuck out of the North, that’d be great” comments. (6/6)
They obviously only made the gifset/meta in order to combat the very understandable assertions by Season 8 critics that Sansa and Arya are hating on Dany in that scene (and throughout the entire season really), for no reason at all. Because it’s a valid point. 
Why the fuck were Sansa and Arya still cautious of Dany when she had just saved all their asses? Why the fuck did they care so much that Dany wanted to wage a war half a country away against a woman they both had on their hit lists? They shouldn’t have cared. What? Northmen will die in the war against Cersei? Good. They should. She’s their enemy too and if not for the war with Dany, Cersei would go after the Starks next, once the dead were defeated (well, that couldn’t happen without Dany anyway, but you get my point).
The Starks expected Dany to come in and defeat all their enemies for them and then fuck off and leave them to it. That’s not the way diplomacy works assholes. 
But... I digress.
The Stans.
Any and all analysis of Season 8 is pointless. There is no point dissecting anything about that season because it is a jumbled mess that contradicts everything that came before it. 
To even assert that Sansa and Arya “have trust issues”... or don’t have trust issues, is pointless. Because they both trust and then not trust people in Season 8 based on... idk, what they had for breakfast that morning? What side of the bed they woke up on? There’s no rhyme or reason to anything. 
I have tried answering this ask a few times in the last hour. Typing out points about the season, Arya and Sansa’s actions, etc. 
But again, there is no rhyme or reason to any of it. So it’s pointless to analyze. 
As the show was presented to the audience in Season 8, Arya and Sansa mistrusted Dany for no reason. Neither of them are psychic and didn’t know she would blow up King’s Landing. Bran never told anyone Dany would do this, if he knew about it ahead of time. Dany was their savior. She saved them. And they repaid her with deceit and general bitchiness. 
That’s just all there is to it. 
The Stansas can try to defend it all they want. But it was stupidly written. And most everyone knows that. 
The Starks are the villains of Season 8. Especially Sansa, but to a lesser extent Arya and Bran. Dany was the tool they used to get what they wanted. 
And that’s that on that.  
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repeterwiggin · 5 years ago
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i decided to make notes as I watched POF (SVSR) for the second time and damn. it’s just as much of a rollercoaster even when you know what’s coming (warning this is long there’s a lot going on)
- wild to me how we jump straight in!
- lee & mary lee are adorable & also thomas at the wedding is a Mood literally me at all my friends weddings
- the flashback breaks my heart,
- Patton is still a really good trier... he’s so good and he tries so hard and I love him
- the way thomas rips off his suit jacket...
- the song that isn’t sung!
- Patton says “we four helped you” but there were five sides in svs hmm I feel like that’s probably significant in some way
- the ace attorney ref makes me very happy! there was a secret path of me hoping for for a professor layton reference but this is ehhhh kinda close?
- the fact that the first thing they say is “why didn’t we talk to lee and mary lee” like. yeah!!
- WE SHOULD START LOOKING I TO WAYS TO PREDICT THE FUTURE! he’s a little confused but he’s got the spirit
- patton and roman bffs!!
- feral cats,,, what a tangent i stan roman
- I like that we get some more context to the invite as well, like being asked face to face does add another element to the dilemma
- Dame Judy Dench = Queen Groovy Bench I see you using those Good Place swears, Roman
- “maybe they ... feel guilty” is like. I get where you’re coming from Patton but talking to them should’ve been step one imo like. I have been to lots of friends weddings and talking to them is important
- “I’m not sure there was a good ending to get” ... “for he’s a jolly good fellow!”
- them calling Patton out for how critical he’s been!!! very important!!! and I appreciate that Patton is trying “I’m just trying to help you be a good as you can be!” he still has more to learn but still im love him
- the bagel callback lol
- GameStore instead of GameStop lol Patton
- FROGGER
- “he eats fly for breakfast”
- We’re ten minutes in and there’s already so much going on
- Also I just want to appreciate that thomas is such a good actor I can tell which side is speaking just from their voice like the cadence is different and they way they say words ahhh it’s something I’ve thought about before but it’s really hitting me with these voice over segments
- Leslie Odom Jr lol if only we’d known
- The Pokemon battle format is so good and I love that it’s being used for a “do you give money to a homeless actor”
- The hotdog puns....
- Logan’s Lowdown!!!
- Roman mouthing “behoove” to Patton is very cute but I feel bad for Logan :(
- Pixel Logan is adorable
- The fact that roman immediately goes “ignorant” breaks my heart listen to logan!!! please!!!!
- Patton trying to soften his thoughts is kind of painful to watch
- “As long as that’s not the main reason you’re doing it!” Patton no,,,,,,,,
- Roman needs to be listened to more he looks so defeated when Patton doesn’t agree with him and only continues after serious prompting I feel like he’s been ignored too many times lately I’m very excited for a roman arc :((
- “Leslie Odom Jr’s....literal cake that he baked!!!”
- Logan’s fun fact popping up in the mario scene!! that’s my boy!!!
- Also the fact that roman is immediately painting deceit as the bad guy after they spent all of svs getting along......like, I feel like after the other sides decided that deceit wasn’t at all genuine or looking out for thomas’ best interests roman did a full 180* on him which makes sense for romans character but is also kinda depressing bc in is lying okay? and svs he was like “oh he’s not that bad!!” And now he’s like “scute bellied tyrant!!” damn
- Patton let’s him talk and then immediately is like “uuuuh no” yikes
- Roman targets all his insults at deceit and very carefully avoids being even playfully rude to anyone else hmm I really do think he’s trying to “make up” for siding with deceit last time and in the end it doesn’t even matter :((( bc he still feels like he’s disappointing people
- Roman seems like he’s genuinely trying to understand and Patton is really struggling to articulate his thoughts and that creates such a good conflict between the two bc it’s not like theyre really against each other it’s just solid interpersonal difference. or intrapersonal I guess
- The trolley problem!!!! A classic I love it
- The way it’s animated too is so good... the “Thomas is full of dread” the way the music cuts when the train appears how it cuts right before the train hits “is it over” ahhhhhh
- Also Leslie Odom Jr again lol
- “Maybe don’t depict scenarios where my friends die” and then later Patton is specifically like “it’s lee and mary lee!!!” lol wild
- “You know we don’t like to use the T word!!!” GREAT little aside
- “So it’s the how that matters” “yeah... and the why!!!” patton baby you’re trying so hard and I love you but it’s okay. you don’t need to have all the answers. you can just not know! I promise it’s alright!
- Thomas face after Patton brings up the “figment of your imagination” things KILLS ME
- I actually disagree with Thomas on the “putting more good into the world” as not being a compelling answer BUT I think that Patton is overlooking how feeling good/having positive emotions attached with those actions IS directly putting more good into the world. like, if doing good makes you feel good, that’s a good thing!! idk
- Logan disagreeing with Patton was good and we all know logan is my favourite but I think he could’ve handled that a little better
- PATTON HITTING SKIP ALL..... sweetie no :((
- everyone has already said this but that cane is the snake boy
- Roman even pulls back the insults on a philosopher who is not there
- Also Roman being like “your desires are getting in the way” again bc he feels like he’s not being listened to or appreciated bc there’s something about him that’s “wrong” and trying to shoulder the blame bc he feels bad that his desires (success, fame, love, appreciation) are inherently selfish :(((
- “that is the stupidest thing you’ve ever said” right sentiment, terrible delivery
- the way roman says “you’re just blowing smoke” is a Lot and very much like his fishing for validation but I don’t blame him for it, after what he’s just admitted it’s truly understandable that he needs that validation
- Thomas’ point about feelings motivating him is REALLY good bc we are all motivated by our emotions
- “Doing nothing is even worse!” i mean you’re not wrong but not in the way you think,,
- Logan/Deceit (I do think it’s deceit at this point) using the oxygen mask metaphor is really great to me!!! I love that metaphor & I was going to be a flight attendant so it’s something I thought about a lot. I’ll talk about it more when Deceit brings it up again lol
- “Uuuh I do need help” mood thomas mood
- “Temporarily put himself first” oof
- “It’s easy to say what we would hypothetically do...” hard agree
- Watching logan/deceit huff and roll his eyes solidifies for me that it is deceit like something about it feels unlike Logan lol I can’t explain why
- Roman nodding along with the explanation of why leisure is important makes me very happy
- “Oh is it not? Please correct me if I’m wrong” and the way the sprite pressing further and further and being more expressive with his hands and eyebrows like damn. that’s deceit!!
- Patton’s breakdown is Iconic I love the glitching and the way it zooms out to show the layout of the living room and the way he explodes ahhhhhhh so good
- why does the frog have abs that’s my one question
- lilypadton ahdhajfka I love it
- DECEIT EX MACINA THE REVEAL IS SO GOOD as soon as he started punning (cut through this bull...frog) I was like 👀 AND THEN THE LINES AND THE CAPE AND THE LORD OF THE LIES IM HAPOY TO OBLIGE
- “CODE YELLOW”
- the deceit sprite is so cute :))))
- Deceit pulling Thomas behind him we have to stan
- “Richer than Jeff Bozos” I LOVE that roman I love you
- Deceit calling him out and the way the words themselves turn into attacks is such a fun detail
- Frog Patton still punning even in serious moments is so on brand
- Deceit dodging while thomas gets hit is a solid metaphor
- “The plane is going down, you need to give thomas some room to breathe” oof like it needed to be said but oof
- The health bars changing to “Thomas’ mental health” OOF LADS WE’RE REALLY IN IT NOW
- the way thomas looks when he steps back into frame cracks me up
- “We can still beat him! We’ve beaten him before!” oh roman, but it’s not a fight against deceit :((
- the snakes on the plane ref lmao “I’m sick of this morality fighting snake on this metaphorical plane” whoever wrote that line... I want to give them a high five truly iconic
- Deceit is so much more playful and showing more diverse personality in this ep and I’m living for it
- final fantasy!! the og version turn by turn which is what I like to play lol also the villain they’re fighting kinda looks like Virgil and idk how to feel about that
- Deceit looking away as soon as logan pops up lmaoooooo
- “Not that any of you care...” logan baby no!!!!! I care!!!!
- Effective Altruism explanation and Logan making a point to go “it employs the heart and the mind” like ... reminding Patton that they need to work together and they’re on the same side I’m soft
- Deceit and Logan agreeing warms my heart they’re both so good and ahhhh
- “Emphasis on the ‘sometimes’ though, right?” “Yeah sure whatever — I mean yes! Of course!”
- I also love how deceit addresses thomas directly they don’t do that a lot but it makes sense cause deceit is really trying to persevere thomas’ self
- Him calling roman noble and roman not believing it :((( deceit trying to be honest and ahhhhh I’m so sad
- “Selflessness isn’t always the answer” which was exactly what svs was supposed to be about
- “What do you almost all things?” “Oh you’re right we wouldn’t want to plant too many trees, imagine how much CO2 might absorbed”
- lmao why am I so impressed by Roman’s deceit impression when they’re literally the same person
- roman flipping out and attacking deceit is a Big Yikes but it’s totally in character bc roman has always been black and white even more so than Patton and it’s been building to an arc for a loooong time so I’m very excited
- Deceit taking off his glove.... saying his name......... I can’t process this
- JANUS!!!!!!!!!! It’s so good it’s perfect I love it I love him
- roman immediately laughing yikesssss
- “Oh roman thank god you don’t have a moustache otherwise between you and remus I wouldn’t know who the evil twin is” YIKESSS but also valid deceit is at a breaking point
- “I thought I was your hero” “you are!”
- I’m going to be thinking about deceit’s—JANUS’S—nod for a long time....was he agreeing with Thomas or was he saying that Thomas was lying ahhhhhhh
- “Everything’s going to be okay. We love you.” “...right” AH MY HEART
- I want to give roman a hug
- Patton asking Janus for advice like right away and Janus not being great at first but coming around quickly with the ever true “it depends” like I love the two of them together the DYNAMIC POTENTIAL
- Janus does seem fond of Patton which is cute I can’t wait for everyone to be friends again lol
- ACTUAL LESLIE ODOM JR I CANNOT
- how did they make that happen,,,, how wild
- the clapping
- “This sanders sides not odom sides,, I’m not threatened at all” that is, somehow, a mood
- “don’t kill, don’t steal, easy conclusions to come to” “even those can get iffy” “I don’t want to think about that... but maybe that proves my point!” you what we call that? growth
- “Giving too simple answers to complicated questions can do more harm than good” “mmhmm”
- “So I’m sorry! Again!” Poor boy is trying to hard and I love him :((( so much <3333
- “Oh yeah that’s cool, talk about me like I’m not here” I love you Janus!!!”
- “I’ll take care of him” and then immediately joking around and trying to make thomas laugh is very cute thomas needed something lighthearted after all of that ahhh
- “You’re not stuck with an EVIL snake boy...you’re just stuck with a snake boy!!” I LOVE YOU JANUS what an adorable nerd I would die for him
- and how excited he gets about being called right he deserves it
- “I love how much you like these constant dilemmas so please keep overthinking things” you know what I needed to hear that man
- “You can’t get doing good down to a science” WORD
- the message of treating yourself well & finding the right balance between that and doing good for others being a personal thing is very good and much needed
- Lee and Mary Lee are onscreen for like 3 minutes and I love them so much
- “So this is what you do for a living? Comedy?” “Yeah I’m a hack”
- Patton and Janus chilling on the same screen... I adore them
- “Seems like things worked out after all... I was wrong about everything!” “You and I both know that’s not true” and Patton’s soft little smile I love them!!!!
- “Odom sides would cool!” like actual Leslie Odom Jr said that.... I’m shook
- okay that’s the end it’s just as much a rollercoaster the second time around no I am not okay, thank you for your time
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live-laugh-larceny · 5 years ago
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I’ve seen people rank the Sides so uh I’m gonna do it too
But backwards bc I’m a dramatic bitch
Here we go (spoilers for Redux)
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Coming in at #6: Roman
I don’t hate Roman by a long shot, but his some of his behavior bothers me. I’m not a fan of arrogant season one Roman, and although I’ve enjoyed seeing him fleshed out in season two, I can’t get over how rude he is to Logan. Overall, a good boy who needs some help right now. And maybe some etiquette lessons.
Number 5: Remus
I like Remus. I think he’s woobified excessively by the fandom in fics, but canon Remus is a blast. Yelling penis jokes and throwing sharp objects is always a mood. His entrance was actually pretty spooky (I watched DWIT for the first time at 2am so that probably helped). A feral boy whom I love very much. Forbidden Fruit slaps.
Number 4: Patton
This one is interesting to me because Patton was my least favorite Side until Redux. I didn’t like how controlling he was in SvS and DWIT, and since he’s also the Side I relate to the least, he dropped to the bottom pretty easily. But Redux showed me that Patton is really trying. He didn’t mean to make Thomas so miserable, and by trusting Janus, he’s starting to move past his oversimplified worldview. And I’m really proud of him.
Number 3: Virgil
He was my favorite in season one, but has since been overtaken by Logan and Janus. His outfit is easily my favorite of the Sides (I really like purple lol), his one-liners are killer, and it’s been a lovely journey watching him develop. Keep on keeping on, my dude. I know I do not stan Virgil anymore bc I wasn’t particularly upset by his absence in Redux. Still, I’m really looking forward to seeing him again. Emo boy.
Number 2: Janus
There’s no yellow :(((((
I liked Deceit in CLBG, but then SvS part 1 came along and he took second place from Virgil faster than you can say “ssssssSSUCKUP”. Bloopers Deceit is literally the funniest thing in the world. He’s a stupid dork and his name is pronounced Janice and he still also manages to be really intimidating when he needs to be. I love morally gray characters, I love how epic his reveals were in CLBG and Redux, and I can’t wait to see more of him. Just a snek boy trying to get ahead in the world.
Number 1: Logan
I. Love. Logan Sanders. Sometime around Moving On he took the number one spot from Virgil, and that was history. I relate to Logan a lot, and the whole “discard and repress your feelings bc they aren’t logical” resonates with me. I also have this annoying and pervasive fear of judgement I try extremely hard to ignore, but I still tend to define myself by what others think of me. I’m still embarrassed to express my love for fandom stuff in public bc I feel like people will mock me. I love how excited he gets over Crofters and rapping and Sherlock and his onesie, and oh god the angst. If you haven’t listened to Logan’s playlist, I highly recommend it. It made me understand him and love him even more while also crying and going “nooo why are you so sad???”. Idk I’m not great at explaining why certain characters are my favorites, I just know I love them. And I LOVE LOGAN!!!
If anyone actually read through this whole thing, thanks! This is just my dumb opinion so... (hmu if you feel the same way so I can follow you)
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bilgisticallykosher · 5 years ago
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Selfishness vs. Selfishness Redux
Pre-episode thoughts. I don't think they're going to address the dark side Everybody-already-knew-that thing right away. I'm still thinking Deceit's gonna be Virgil, but I'm also not so certain that's going to wind up going down. Because there's a lot of other stuff to get into. We know from the first Asides that stuff between Virgil and Patton is growing, and simmering. It's coming, and while that's in the future, there's probably going to be more build-up here. Is it that Patton knew about Virgil's past? Is it something else entirely? This is going to be a two hour episode, geez. 
Also, I can't believe he's actually going to the wedding. Idk. All those people saying he got the date wrong, though? First of all, Logan is in charge of the schedule, he'd never let that happen, how dare? And also, I always double check dates and invitations for stuff. I really doubt Virgil wouldn't have looked at the invitation and checked the information again. Watch me be totally wrong now. 
I don't know who I think the cloaked figure is. Could be Deceit ("like a freaking Scooby Doo villain"), could be Thomas himself. Probably not Organization XIII, but I'm not completely eliminating the option, let me have this. 
Things I'd like, but am 99% certain won't happen; Deceit's name (which I'm both hoping and expecting to not start with D), a new side, Remus and Deceit interacting on camera, or really Remus at all. Except for that green score of BOOBS, I maintain that's Remus's contribution. 
ALRIGHT, LET'S GO, I'M NOT READY!!!!
First impression of the thumbnail. You vs. Yourself???? Oh my gosh. Ohhhh, I'm freaking out. Patton looks so apprehensive, and I don't know if that's on general, or because of Roman or in response to Roman, because Roman looks so annoyed at Patton! He's so angry oh my gosh. I mentioned I wasn't ready, right? Okay. Okay. So their sprites are different styles, which is cool. Patton's looks risk-based stroll around town type of RPG, Roman's looks fighting style. 
The options for the character select???? Oh my gosh, that's. Hi, Remus. Anyway, uh, I don't know what this means, but there's three character options on top and- DARK SIDES ARE SEPARATE FROM LIGHT SIDES! Oh gosh, I was thinking maybe it was something to do with specifically Logan. Ooh, Deceit's in his lawyer outfit, nice touch.  THERE'S AN EXTRA BLANK PLAYER OPTION. I don't know if that means he'll be revealed this episode, or just that he exists. I mean, we just had Deceit's logo, Remus's reveal and name reveal… here goes.
IT STARTS WITH THE VIDEO GAME??? THIS IS THE INTRO????? THE WEDDING??????!!!!!!! Oh hey word crush. Oh hey, it's the couple! Starting to think this is a dream or fantasy, btw. Also, Lee and Mary Lee sound like...Esteban and Valerie? Maybe? Idk. Omg, Life is pain. 
This is awkward, beautiful. Pfft, hence the marriage. Photographer is great, no idea who he or the emcee are. Ooh. Crushed. 
INTRO??? EXCUSE ME??? Oh was SvS originally on 3/31? Yeah, good, play a review like all of us haven't been obsessing over what happened last time. "APRIL 13" I'm just going thi pause forever now. Oh this is going to be the angry walk in that was previewed in the bloopers, I can tell. Oh no. OH NO! And it is at night and he seriously freaking actually went to the wedding????
Oh my gosh he's so angry. Ohhh, Patton rethinking his phrasing, nice. You should never→I'm surprised that you etc. Oh Roman! Oh, maybe we should… not review. Oh boy. 
Oh there's Patton's avatar. In then guitar hero thing. Oh, Thomas is associated with the color white, confirmed??? I like how they did the notes there. So much detail. The talk sprites are great, but the expressions on the dancing sprites are worth paying attention to. Okay, Patton's still very, um, defensive, I guess is the word? Thomas is angry and bereft and confused and full of doubt, and Roman's heavily on the confused side (ha) about him aligning with Deceit. This is why he stole his hat. Great animation work, everyone, that was fantastic, artists! 
"Why didn't I just talk to them before the wedding?" THOMAS. Also, because Deceit specifically prevented Logan from being too close to the courtroom scene by benching him and not asking him what his idea of a compromise was. "I brought that up," well, you did, but Deceit kinda made it seem like you were suggesting lying to them, so you got shut down. Sorry, Ro. Listen, I love Deceit, but the boy's a manipulator. 
We learn to predict the future!!! Roman, no. Woah, Patton's just being completely dismissive. I mean he's been through some hard times the last few episodes, minus LNTAO, but damn. Oh. Roman's very much defending Patton. This forebodes very badly. This is going to explode terribly. Oh no. 
Okay, so, the thing with the feral cats. Is Roman okay? Did someone do this to him? More importantly, did he do this to me? Also, on a serious note, I'm super shocked Deceit hasn't come in yet, because he (and Thomas, and arguably Patton) is obviously regretting going to the wedding. I mean, Virgil's not coming in right away because of the reveal at the end of DWIT, but- hey where's Logan?! Logan and Deceit should both totally be here! *gasp* Except in the one on one episodes (Heart vs. Mind, My Negative Thinking, Logince; the argument) it's always primarily been the two sides that are featured with the others either not there or off-screen or making small cameos. But Deceit was and is an important part of this decision past, present, and going forward! 
Oooh, I like the Lee and Mary Lee backstory. Hm. Patton does bring good points, but. I still agree with- oh, Thomas just solidly saying no made me snort. Okay, so speaking of the coin bleeping, why the video games? I know there's more to come with it, how do they come into play? Oh okay metaphor. 
That was clearly not the good ending, Roman. Bringing up Is Thomas A Good Person again. OOH xylophone, is he a-comin'? Oh he's directly blaming Patton. Wow, Roman. 
A BAGEL?! Oh, game sssssssstore. Really? Frogger, Pat? 16 graphics. Oh there's the hotdogs. OH and there's the cloaked guy! Smashing our theories. That does not seem like Sondheim. 
The puns, oh my gosh, brilliant. Getting to the meat of them here. Gosh these graphics are fantastic. 6AM dull. 
Oh. Hm. Technically, he does not have to give him the 'dog. The building tension is fascinating. 
HI, LOGAN! Patton looking real uncomfortable at "regret." I mean, they all know they regret it now, right? Roman making fun of behoove, that's so funny, I have no idea why. Seriously, whoever's doing the art, I'm dying at Logan's expressions. Woah good thing viewers have the pause button. I'm all for not buying X-mas decorations. I'm doing my part, goyim. 
I'm counting "it's not like Kingdom Hearts" in lieu of that having been Organization XIII. Oh boy, Patton. Right thing vs. Feeling good vs. Feeling good about doing the right thing. This is falling apart. Patton's noise. 
BOOBS omg Deceit is Bowser. I love that painting in the background! Scutes! Time went from limited to being lost to poorly spent to wasted! I'm standing by the purple being Virgil. Fyi, in Judaism, doing a good thing for the wrong reasons doesn't matter, because you're still doing the good thing, even if it's just for the reward. There's a thing about it with Avraham and a King.
Roman's getting close to breaking. Reptilian rapscallian guy. And who's to say he can't be doing it for the reward and to help people? 
"... an individual's happiness and the amount of selfless acts…" that should be number, not amount, Logan! Can't judge good deeds only by how good you feel when you do them. 
Okay, here we go. How do we know what's Right? Killing and stealing is illegal everywhere, yes, Thomas, what are you doing, Thomas???
Oh my gosh, not the trolley problem. They're referring to Deceit as Denial and Roman as Passion! Oh gosh, that looks like Joan, Talyn, Dot, Valerie, and Terrence, and Leo by himself, maybe? Oh geez, I jolted. Logan index carding for trolley problem. 
Unus Annus is right, the trolley problem is stupid. Oh my gosh, Logan's giant wall of text physically pushing Patton back, I spit all over my screen. Skip All. 
Roman's… blaming himself? Oh!!! Are we getting Roman's insecure arc???!!! This is a complex issue, and Patton's having a hard time backing down, and everyone's feeling bad.
Scared?! I hear music! NO. Why is he scared, oh my gosh?????? That's not a tired metaphor. Oh! I've heard of hypoxia! It was hypothesized (and disproven) to be the reason for a specific Bermuda Triangle incident. 
Good point, Logan. Regarding theory and in the moment instincts. Remus mention with intrusive thoughts! Shocked that Logan is arguing for leisure time. Logan's self satisfied smirk at the self-sacrifice. GLITCHY! Oh he's a frog. Lilypadton. 
Oh my gosh I'm getting so stressed. Yes, thank you, Logan for the scream. I… don't. The conscientious comment. No, it's not. This seems… Deceit-y. IT IS! SHARP SIDE OH MY GOSH! Oh, he didn't rise up, he popped out in the freaking dialogue box, NO, FRICK IT WAS RIGHT THERE! And the Nietzsche and the specific examples that he used!!! I'm so angry! I DIDN'T THINK HE'D TAKE LOGAN'S PLACE AGAIN! I MISSED THE SIGNS! 
Hey guys, look, it's Deceit. Bull… frog. Lord of the lies. Oh! 8-bit Deceit theme. Okay, the first thing Deceit said about him not doing it on purpose was nice, but yeah, those words striking him is accurate. Yeesh, harsh. 
Is Patton eating his own words? Oh, uh, is anyone going to acknowledge he hit Thomas? Is that telling of the situation instead of just being a funny background event? 
The crick in Thomas's neck is so funny. SNAKES ON THE PLANE!!! ...Hm. Happy that he brought that up. Oh my gosh, Deceit's spluttering, he's like so bad at things sometimes, I love it. 
Logan! No, don’t do that, everybody appreciates you! Double curse? Pffffft, Logan. Deceit…definitely smiling at Logan's logic. Deceit is interesting here. Oh wow, yikes. He's really fascinating here. Legitimately complimentary? Oh, no, kind of not, maybe. Roman looks distressed.
"...Trees?" Roman's super pumped up. Good for him! Ha, his imitation. Deceit looking confused? Patton looking all sorts of things, I really think that Deceit is being genuine here- NAME?! I'D THIS HAPPENING? Why is he stripping? His, no, what does his glove have to do with his name? 
………. Janice? Did he say Jenus or Janice. It sounded like Janice. Deceit. No. Oh, burn, Roman. Damn, he almost got me. His name is not Janice. No. It's not. Don't even. Deceit was being so straight(ha)forward for the past couple of minutes. Awww, Roman. Insecurity addressing time? Wait, why is Deceit nodding at the hero thing? His lip is trembling, his voice is cracking and oh no! Roman just sank out.
Don't call him Janice, that's not his name. Oh he's being genuine again. Patton's talking about himself. WAIT WHAT. He had a five second cameo, omg. 
Yeah, those are the easier questions. No, Deceit, bad Deceit. Man, his facial expressions in this episode. Fractionally fiendish fibber. Oh, I like the reasons for Deceit being a part of him! That's… cute? Oddly cute, maybe. So, freaking how far in the future is the Asides? 
Stop calling him Janice, that's not his name. Oh, Deceit and Thomas bonding. That snort, oh my gosh. Oh, serious Deceit again! That reaction to "you're right" is oddly similar to that fake laugh at the end of Embarrassing Phases. 
………. Virgil's not here yet. His reveal isn't being addressed. Accepting Deceit. That's why he's so pissed at Patton in Asides. The next episode proper they're going to reveal that Deceit's accepted, more or less, and Patton was a big part of that, hugely changing his mind, that's why he's so pissed at him!!!
April 30th? Oh is this Lee and Mary Lee? I was wrong on the voices. Door-yelling! Hm. I mean. It's nice that they're acknowledging him, but I really don't think that sways the situation one way or another. Cute more background, and Thomas being awkward. They. This could have been instead of the wedding. Kingdom Hearts again! 
Oh hi, Patton and Deceit. He seems annoyed at the situation. Patton and Deceit bonding. Hi again, Leslie. Wild. 
This video really didn't go at all how I thought it would. Roman was barely miffed at Patton. Oh man, this was intense. I. Oh man. I need to process a lot. But I think we're on the right path, here. Janice is not his name!
Okay, I went on tumblr and two seconds in, I saw Janus, which I looked up and that makes way more sense. Another, more condensed post to follow. And several thousand reblogs.
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today-only-happens-once · 6 years ago
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one of my own.
One of My Own. Bullet-Fic. (part 1)
The bullet-fic story of how FBI Agent Thomas Sanders saved Virgil and gained a massive amount of trust from his former-con-artist Criminal Informants. For the Con-Artist!AU. 
Tags: @ nblievablenerd
Tw: violence, shooting/gun violence, implied past physical abuse, kidnapping, Deceit makes an appearance and isn’t a terrible person but idk if I can call it “Sympathetic Deceit”?, tremendous emotional stress on all parties that leads to some yelling and arguing and not-dealing-well.
So the Core Four has been working for Thomas and the FBI as CIs for a little over a year at this point. And they have a working relationship now, and have cracked a lot of cases together, but they’re kinda working on the whole “trust” thing because the year was not without it’s. challenges.
But anyways a case comes up involving an old con buddy that Virgil used to do cons with. He’d pay Virgil a cut for doing some of the cyber work (hacking into things, unlocking doors from his computer, etc.)
So when he floats across Thomas’s case files, Thomas sees the recognition in Virgil’s eyes and is like “you know him? Think you can help me catch him?”
And Virgil tries to explain to Thomas that this guy is. not a good guy. I mean, obviously he’s not a good guy but he’s an Extra Bad Dude that could get violent and had a very short temper and Virgil cut off working with him for that very reason. 
Thomas tries to explain that the sooner they can bring him in, the sooner he stops hurting people. And Thomas sees the sort of uncomfortable, haunted gaze and is like “Virgil we gotta bring him in but I won’t make you interact with him” because he kinda suspects that maybe this “he can just.....get violent, Thomas” attitude of Virgil is really Virgil’s way of saying “he was violent with me” 
But Virgil feels like he should have done more to stop him a long time ago and is like. “no, he’ll talk to me. Let’s make a plan. I’m fine” 
Thomas doesn’t fully buy it. He talks to Logan about it, but all Logan really knows is that Virgil always got a little weird whenever the guy’s name (Marcus) was mentioned. Virgil wouldn’t tell him anything beyond that, and Logan never pressed him.
So anyways, Thomas is like “okay we’ll just try to keep you extra safe.” So they make this plan where Virgil will set up a meeting with him, talking about this rare painting that will be transferred from the Met in a week and asking if he’ll help. If he agrees, they’ll set up a meeting point to discuss further and the FBI will meet him at that point and arrest him there. Thomas assured him that he’ll plainclothes it, so he’ll be nearby in case something goes wrong. They’ll cut his anklet to avoid suspicion. It should be easy. “I promise you’ll be safe” he tells him. Easy.
And it should have been.
But Marcus got word that Virgil was working for the FBI. So what was supposed to be a meeting turned into a kidnapping. And Virgil was shoved into a van that took off speeding down the street and the last thing he saw was Thomas sprinting towards him, yelling his name, as the canvas bag was pulled over his head and they swung the van door shut.
When Thomas gets back to the FBI building….
Thomas hasn’t even taken two steps onto the floor when Roman storms up to him. His eyes are bright and furious and terrified and Thomas wonders if Roman might actually hit him. But Thomas can’t stop thinking about the raw fear in Virgil’s eyes and that he promised he’d keep Virgil safe. And Thomas actually gives a small shove past Roman and whistles loudly to grab everybody’s attention.
Thomas loudly explains what happened in short terms: “Listen up, guys. Virgil’s been kidnapped. Taken down 4th Ave in a black van with license plate XDS 3452. Suspect has history of violence. Time is of the essence”
And when Thomas brushes past Patton and Logan—who had lingered back where Roman charged forward—Patton doesn’t miss the pained look in Thomas’s eyes behind the steely resolve. Roman, still angry and everything else, goes to charge after Thomas to yell at him, but Logan saw the look in Thomas’s face and places a hand on Roman’s chest to stop him with a slight shake of his head.
Over the next several hours, the three of them work with Thomas and the FBI agents on the case to figure out where he might’ve taken Virgil. None of the others had worked with Marcus, and Virgil didn’t like to talk about his time with him, but they had connections in the underground still and used them as much as they could.
Logan even reaches out to Deceit at one point, who is able to tell them that he heard Marcus found out about Virgil and the rest of the others working as a CI, and he was angry. But Deceit hadn’t heard where he might’ve taken Virgil. Deceit promises to look into it. He does as much as he can from his end, but none of his contacts know whats up beyond that.
As the search progresses, Patton tries to be understanding and patient… but the tension of knowing Virgil is in the hands of a violent criminal who has reason to be angry with him builds inside of him. It’s a swell of unpleasant emotions—anger and fear and sadness—and Patton doesn’t really know what to do. So he lingers around Roman and Logan because he can’t look out for Virgil right now but he can try to protect the others around him right now. He tries to not let his negative emotions direct towards Thomas because he knows Thomas is taking it hard too, even if he doesn’t understand why that’s the case, but it’s hard when he himself heard Thomas promise to Virgil that he’d keep him safe. Two hours into the search, Patton excuses himself to the bathroom and sobs. It doesn’t help with the negative emotions as much as he’d hoped it would.
Roman is scared—terrified—for Virgil and it makes him even more reckless and passionate than he already was. His comments become scathing. His glares are sharp. After the first three hours, Roman excuses himself to blow off steam in the training gym and wails on a punching bag and pretends it’s sweat that’s rolling down his cheeks.
Logan just. Shuts down emotionally. He exudes this collected, precise, stoic exterior because breaking down will not get Virgil found. He throws himself into the investigation. He tries to help Thomas, he chases down every single lead he has and contacts anyone he can think of that might have heard something through back channels. He helps Thomas, and when Thomas doesn’t need help, he helps other agents. Logan doesn’t stop moving, doesn’t stop thinking, doesn’t stop trying. He doesn’t stop.
Four hours in, when Thomas tells him they’re running out of leads, Logan loses his composure and yells.
Six hours in, they finally catch a break. A security camera finds the van outside of a warehouse in the fashion district in the city. The Sides try to go with Thomas, but Thomas tells him he won’t let them because it puts them at risk too. Sort of a “this guy is mad because he knows Virgil and you all are CIs. That means you guys are targets too.”
Roman blows up on him. “Protecting him was supposed to be your job¸Thomas! YOURS! You’ve already failed once! How can you expect us to trust you to bring him home?!”
Patton kinda grabs Roman and hugs him, and Roman tries to kinda shove out of the grip but Patton holds fast and Roman eventually stops fighting him and kinda sags into the embrace a bit. Logan has his arms folded tightly across his chest and he’s watching Thomas strap into a Kevlar vest and strap a gun into his holster.
And Logan just says, “So?” When Thomas looks at him, he prompts, “you didn’t answer Roman’s question.”
And Thomas’s jaw kinda sets and Logan sees a spark of determined anger in his eyes. “Marcus took one of my own. I’m not coming back without him.” And then Thomas is gone.
 To be continued….
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mochasandwords · 5 years ago
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Hello, Dolan!
Heyo, it’s me again! Yes with another AU! (I need to stop...) I’m still working on my Greater Beings AU and a one-shot I’m debating on doing, but my school is putting on Hello Dolly and this idea came to me. I want to do more of these, but I don’t know which scenes to do more of. I will definitely be taking suggestions if anyone has a preference!
Dolly Levi= Deceit (Dolan) Lyre
Horace Vandergelder= Logan Vattel
Irene Molloy= Roman Monarch
Cornelius Hackle= Remy Hiatos
Minnie Fay= Emile Falloppio
Barnaby Tucker= Virgil Turnus
Ambrose Kemper= Remus King
Ermengarde = Patton Bennet
Ernestine = Wade Sanders (Wrath)  
Words: 1818
Pairings: Intruality, platonic Sleepxiety, implied Logince, implied Loceit
Warnings: death mention, kinda mean rich person? Idk let me know if I need to add anything!
Logan sighed and rubbed his eyes, moving his glasses as he did so. The sound of his nephew sobbing next to him was preventing him from working. He stood up, turning to look at Patton.
“How can I be expected to work with all that bellowing in my ears?” He asked, trying to keep his voice calm.
“I can’t help it, Uncle! I love Remus King!” Patton cried, tugging at his light blue dress.
“And I say you’re too young to be in love with anybody!” Logan said, groaning. He had fallen in love way too early in life. While he had loved his wife in the ways required of him, the two never truly connected. Logan was gay.  
His wife had died a decade ago, and Logan was finally ready to try again at love. That did not mean Patton was ready though. Logan did not want his nephew to jump into love as he had.
“I’m not too young! I’m seventeen, and in another year, I’ll be an old bachelor!” Patton stomped his foot, and Logan tried not to crumble under Patton’s puppy-dog eyes.
“Well, I forbid it! And stop crying near the store windows!”
“I can’t help it! I’m unhappy!” He announced.  
“Then by the stars, you’ll go and weep for a while in New York! Now go upstairs and start packing your trunk, and don’t get any tears on the lock! It was just oiled!” Logan called after Patton as the young man rushed upstairs, still crying. Logan sighed and sat back down at his desk. He hated being harsh on Patton, but he followed his heart too much. Remus King was a painter and brash man. Logan was afraid he would hurt Patton. Intentionally or unintentionally. He turned his mind to New York, where he and Patton were going soon to meet Logan’s fiancé: a hat maker named Roman.
“Speaking of being away….” Logan muttered, stomping his foot three times, “Remy! Virgil!” A muttering came from the basement, and a few seconds later, the trapdoor to the basement opened and two men emerged. Both wore brown pants and a white shirt and apron. Remy’s apron was black while Virgil’s was a pale purple. Remy was the taller and older one, he was also the more experienced one, having worked with Logan longer. They were both hard workers, usually. Virgil went into anxiety attacks when he did something wrong or Logan raised his voice too much. Remy worked late and ended up falling asleep during the day. Logan tried to tell him to leave when his shift was over, but the man wouldn’t let himself be convinced.
“You stamped, Mr. Vattel?” Remy asked, voice gravelly as if he had just woken up. His sunglasses were slightly askew but still hid his eyes. Logan suppressed a sigh.
“I did. I have news for you both. As you know, I am going to New York this afternoon to march in the Nineteenth Street Association Parade. What I haven’t told you is when I come back, you’re going to have a paramour.” Virgil’s green eyes grew wide.
“I-I’m too young Mr. Vattel!” He stuttered. Logan groaned.
“Not yours, Virgil, mine! I mean,” he turned to Remy, “I’m getting married again. And in honor of that occasion, I’ve decided to promote you, Remy, to chief clerk.” Remy’s eyebrow raised.
“And what am I now…?” He asked, slightly sarcastic.
“You’re an exhausted fool, that’s what you are. And I’m promoting you from exhausted fool to chief clerk. Any more questions?” Logan stood up and held his hands behind his back. Remy yawned slightly.
“Yeah, actually.”
“What?”
“Does the chief clerk get one evening off a week?” Remy asked. Logan paused and took a deep breath.
“You already have that, Remy. More than one, in fact. You refuse to take them. So no, you’re not getting an extra one. Now, get back to work, your break was over a while ago. And don’t forget to put the lid on the sheep dip.” The two went to the back of the store to work, Remy saluting Logan as he left. Logan ran his hand through his hair and decided to get some fresh air. He walked outside of his store and stared at the small town around him. A band marched by, playing a familiar tune.  
“Three cheers for femininity! Rah! Rah! Rah! – Rah! Rah! Rah! FEM-ITY. / And in the winter…” They sang. Logan snorted at the misspelling of femininity and watched as the band continued on. Clapping from next to him caught his attention and he turned to see Mr. Dolan Lyre. The man he had hired to find Logan a husband.  
“Amusing, aren’t they? Though I do not like the hidden message of women being more maids than wives…. Anyway, a thousand congratulations!” Mr. Lyre greeted. He wore a yellow button-up blouse with a black, long skirt and a black hat that had black lace that covered half of his face. A golden necklace with a snake charm hung around his neck. Logan’s stomach did a summersault but he pushed it off.
“What?” He asked, bringing his mind back to Mr. Lyre’s mismatched eyes. One hazel and one green.  
“I said congratulations, Mr. Vattel! All New York is buzzing with the news that you’ve practically proposed to Roman Monarch. The streets are lined with eligible young men prostrate with grief. All my congratulations and sympathy-.”
“Sympathy?” Logan asked, fully turning to Mr. Lyre.
“Did I say that? A slip of the tongue, that’s all. No, I’m delighted with the happy news, after all, he wasn’t easy to unload – by that I mean you know what people said. Although I for one never believed the rumors, no, I didn’t.” He hummed, placing his hand on Logan’s arm and guiding them to sitting on the steps that led to Logan’s store.  
“Rumors? What… rumors?”
“Oh, nothing to be upset about, Mr. Vattel. I mean according to all known facts, his first husband passed on quite naturally. It’s just that he went so sudden…. A few spoons of chowder he made special for him and well…. But it could happen to anyone. No, there’s no truth in it. Though, just one word of advice, Mr. Vattel: eat out!” Mr. Lyre chuckled at his joke. Logan raised an eyebrow.
“Now hold on, Mr. Lyre, you mean to say that Mr. Monarch-?”
“I mean to say nothing, Mr. Vattel. Just friendly advice. Keep away from the chowder. Oh! By the way, he’s just ordered his wedding gown, beautiful; you should see it – black! Being a hat designer you’d think he had more taste.” Mr. Lyre stood up and brushed off his skirt, “Well, as I said before, rest in… I mean, may guardian angels watch over you both. Particularly at dinner.” Mr. Lyre muttered, a hint of resentment in his eyes. He started to walk away, but Logan scrambled to his feet and grabbed Mr. Lyre’s arm.
“Look here, Mr. Lyre. You introduced me to Mr. Monarch, and rumors or not I intend calling on him this afternoon as arranged!” Mr. Lyre pulled himself out of Logan’s grip. He seemed to stiffen slightly, but the lace was covering the part of his face that was toward Logan, preventing him from seeing Mr. Lyre’s eyes.
“Very well, Mr. Vattel, then there’s nothing more for me to do but go back to New York, after I finish my other errands of course, and tell the other man, the heir, not to wait….” Logan froze and walked in front of Mr. Lyre, stopping him.
“What did you say?”
“Nothing. Well, a word. Heir.”
“His name?”
“His name? Um… Sanders? Yes, that’s it. Wade Sanders.”
“…A lovely name.” Logan hummed. While he was rich, he could always use a bit more. Especially to find Patton a good school and a proper match. Patton would need the money as well as a second parent.
“Picture, if you will, hair as shiny as a newly minted penny… eyes as big as round silver dollars… skin as soft and mossy as an old greenback. Age 36; weight, a hundred and eighty-six -. Now, I could arrange for you to meet this Thomas this very afternoon.” Mr. Lyre said with a slight smile.
“I don’t have the time, Mr. Lyre. I have to bring my nephew Patton to New York this afternoon until he forgets a certain Remus King!” Logan sighed, remembering his previous plans for the day.  
“I could do that with you, Mr. Vattel.” Mr. Lyre said, moving a bit closer to Logan, “I know just how to handle such things.” Logan felt himself gulp.
“I’m marching in the Nineteenth Street Association Parade after.”
“Well, what an amazing coincidence. Mr. Sanders has been chosen to ride the float for the parade. His mother was a Cash you know.” He spoke that last part quietly. Like he was sharing a secret. Logan bit his lip then nodded.
“Alright, Mr. Lyre. I’ll meet Mr. Sanders at the parade, but I still intend on paying another meeting with Mr. Monarch first.” Logan said, voice unwavering. Mr. Lyre pulled back abruptly and turned to Logan’s store and home.  
“Oh dear, what races you make me run!” He sighed, “Very well, Mr. Vattel! I’ll meet you on that bench in front of Mr. Monarch’s hat shop at two-thirty as usual.” The two walked into the shop together.
“One more thing, Mr. Lyre. Suppose I decide against Mr. Monarch and I don’t like Mr. Sanders either?” Logan asked quietly. He didn’t know what pushed him to ask, but something had forced it out of him. Mr. Lyre paused from grabbing Logan’s hat and coat from the coat rack.
“Well, I happen to have one more name on my list, Mr. Vattel. A name I know as well as my own, but let’s not go into that now.” He handed Logan his hat and helped him into his coat, “It’ll come up by itself all in good time. Don’t you worry about it!” Mr. Lyre patted Logan on the back and started to push him out of the store, “Oh! But wait until you see Wade, Logan! A vision! A dream!” Logan chuckled.  
“All right, all right. I’ll leave it up to you. I’m trusting you, Dolan.” He smiled. Mr. Lyre smiled softly back.  
“You can, Logan. Patton will forget about Mr. King and you’ll find your husband all before the end of the day.” He announced. Logan tipped his hat and walked out of the store. He hadn’t even gotten a few feet when he heard Mr. Lyre start to sing.
“Yes, it takes a man… to bring you the sweet things in life.”  
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@queer-sprite hey girl you wanted to read this when I was done?
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