#hammersmith and city line

[everybody-votes]

Poll 4 - London Underground

So, I've worked out a plan - I'll do political polls every other day, with some light topics to balance it out

Today: The famous London Underground. It's more influential than you think. Even its map has inspired the designs of many other city transit maps.

As for the other polls:

American Politics - Joe Biden victory

Social Media - Discord, Instagram, Reddit tied

British Politics - Labour ahead

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[travelling-my-little-pony]

Sweet Notes is sitting on a seat on a tube train on the Hammersmith and City line.

In London, England.

[lonelyroommp3]

londoners, london visitors, former london residents, train nerds, and london aficionados alike: i have a question for you

*london underground only. the dlr, overground, lizzy line, trams etc are excluded 1) due to not technically being tube lines 2) because i don’t have room for that many options and 3) because otherwise lizzy would clearly sweep

**this can be by any metric you see fit. best service, best rolling stock, best array of stations, colour that looks best on the map, etc etc. what matters is this is the line you will ride or die for

worst tube line poll will follow below ⬇️

[damonalbarn]

Bumped into Damon Albarn and had just bought a birthday card for my wee brother Was on the tube in London after buying the card. It was the middle of a weekday on the Hammersmith and City Line so very quiet in my carriage. Someone was drumming with a pencil on a notepad and it was winding me up. I looked up to see who was doing it and it was Damon. Realised I had a golden opportunity to get him to sign the card. Wee brother is a big fan. I approached him after he got out at Great Portland Street and he couldn’t have been nicer about it.

u/WoodenConsequence882 r/CasualUK [X]

[mobius1s]

actually scratch that how the fuck is russel square station that forgettable to me

or blackfriars station now that i remember the no. 4 bus i occasionally see going southbound

why do i keep forgetting kilburn park station exists

[tawus]

circling back to this cheeky fucker...

“This is Edgware Road where this train terminates. Change for the Circle and Hammersmith & City Lines…”

You got awoken by Lemon’s deep voice and blinked through your daze.

“…Please take your belongings with you when you leave the train. All change!”

You were sprawled on the backseat as Lemon switched off the engine and began gathering up his belongings from the driver’s seat. He glanced back at you, having successfully stirred you, and added with a wink, “Mind the gap between the train and the platform, darling.”

At this time the back door opened and there was Tangerine, standing tall in his still damp trousers and sky-blue shirt, offering you his hand.

He was a little dishevelled after the long night and his blue gaze was tired. But he’d slicked his curls back and was smiling that easy smile which betrayed not an ounce of his exhaustion.

[sourcreammachine]

this is fucking deranged

this is baso one train interchange why does it look like this

[ID: extract from National Rail's supplement to the london tube map, with commuter rail lines as well as the tube. this extract shows that map's depiction of the king's cross st pancras and euston area, large rail interchanges extremely close to each other that together become the busiest heavy rail terminus in the uk. both euston and KCSP, and the nearby farringdon, are depicted as an 'internal interchange', which means there are platforms connected by tunnels, as opposed to a regular interchange with multiple entrances on the surface. internals are depicted as circles connected solid bars, while externals are simply one circle. euston and farringdon have two connected circles, while KCSP has six. euston is also connected via a dashed line to ‘euston square’, indicating the two stations are less than ten minutes apart and foot traffic is encouraged (‘square’ is actually literally just outside the entrance of euston). the western lobe of euston is depicted as the terminus of the Lioness Line (orange) and the northwestern railway (lime with bars), which emerge from the station going northwest, depicted as being attached to each other. passing through this lobe is the western branch of the Northern Line (black). the eastern lobe of euston depicts the other branch of the Northern Line, coming from the north but turning east at euston to travel to KCSP, intersecting with the Victoria Line (azure), coming from the southeast before also turning east at euston to run parallel to the Northern Line towards KCSP, though with a gap between the two. no rail termini emerge from the western lobe of euston. the next stop on the western branch of the Northern Line after (western) euston is warren street, which also is the next stop for the Victoria Line after eastern euston, creating a right-angle triangle with the Victoria, western Northern, and the euston internal interchange. to western euston’s southwest via the ten-minute walk dashed line is euston square, which is an interchange for three tube lines, the Hammersmith City (salmon), the Circle (yellow), and the Metropolitan (dark magenta) all of which run next to each other horizontally. the three lines cross the northern-victoria-euston triangle without stopping at euston itself, towards KCSP.

KCSP is an intimidating Y shape of six lobes - three in a vertical line, then two emerging on the northwest spoke and one on the northeast. despite the name of this underground station, drawn as the internal interchange, being ‘king’s cross st pancras’, the giant Y is actually not labelled this at all - the western fork hovers near the label ‘st pancras international’ while the eastern hovers near ‘king’s cross’, and the southern fork remains unlabelled. the southernmost lobe of KCSP is for the glued-together Hammersmith, Circle and Metropolitan from euston square (not euston proper), after which the lines turn southeast to farringdon. this lobe also is for the Piccadilly line (navy), which comes from the northeast before turning south - the only Piccadilly stop in the KCSP-euston area. the middle of the three vertical lobes is for the Northern, travelling east from euston - and nothing else. the northernmost of the vertical lobes is for the Victoria - and absolutely nothing else. the Victoria crosses the Northern at euston whilst travelling diagonally, but then deliberately creates itself a gap before turning horizontal, to reach a separate lobe from the Northern due to KCSP being an internal interchange. both the Northern and Victoria politely duck under the Piccadilly after KCSP. from the Victoria lobe emerges the two spokes for king’s cross and st pancras international. King’s Cross is the terminus of the Great Northern (golden-brown, bars) and a branch of the Thameslink (maroon, bars), both heading north but separated by a tiny gap from each other. the first of the two lobes for SPI is the terminus for HS1 (blue, bars of yellow), which is absolutely not a commuter line - it goes to bloody Paris. this lobe is also bisected by a different branch of the Thameslink, going vertically, after which it sails over the Victoria, Northern and the triple glued-together lines, immediately after which it turns southeast, over the Piccadilly to farringdon. HS1 and this Thameslink out of SPI are once again separated by a tiny gap. the western lobe of SPI is the terminus of the EMR (cyan, bars), which emerges due north. the gap between the EMR and Thameslink is almost imperceptibly larger than the gap between Thameslink and HS1. after the lowest lobe of KCSP with which they intersect the Piccadilly, the triple lines (Hammer., Circle, Metro.) turn southeast to the northeasternmost of farringdon’s two lobes, with which they intersect nothing. this lobe is connected via an internal interchange to another, which is where it intersects the Thameslink coming from SPI, but also the Elizabeth Line (violet)/end ID]

[princessbrunette]

central line supremacy. only one i unfortunately can’t get behind is hammersmith and city however i do love the lizzie line (ik it’s not a tube but it’s a struggle out in zone 4 ☹️)

- 🗽

lizzie line is so luxurious i love it there 🙂‍↕️

[surprisinglyokay]

Having recently read a fanfic in which Sherlock and John catch trains to various parts of southern England exclusively from London’s Waterloo station, even when this is not the usual/logical route, I’d like to share this for writers who might not be familiar with the whole business of trains in/to/from London.

Let’s start with the history of how and when rail services came to London. This article explains how and why we have so many terminal stations (short version: because when they were built, the railway companies were privately owned and all needed their own terminus in London).

The main terminal stations are Waterloo (south), Paddington (west), Euston (north-west), King’s Cross (north-east), St Pancras (East Midlands and Eurostar), Liverpool Street (east), Fenchurch Street (south-east) and Victoria (south). There are others (see the article linked above and my husband’s comment below).

As we know, within London and the suburbs, these termini are linked by the London Underground (aka The Tube) network. There is also the Docklands Light Railway (DLR) - a driverless system - and other overground rail services. Here is a map of it all from Transport of London (TfL). Baker Street is served by five tube lines: Bakerloo (brown), Metropolitan (maroon), Jubilee (silver), Circle (yellow), and Hammersmith & City (pink). It’s also only a five-minute walk from Marylebone (the nearest terminal) which itself is just behind the Landmark hotel, which we know as the exterior for The Restaurant Scene.

Aside: I think Sherlock is unlikely to catch a bus unless directly related to a case - they’re just too slow for him. But you can find bus maps and all kinds of other TfL mappy delights here.

If you have characters using public transport in the UK, your best bets for accurate research are:

Google Maps (in public transport mode)

National Rail (see the page footer for all the useful stuff)

Transport for London

All these also have apps available.

I’m happy to do Sherlockian Britpicking (my day job is copy-editing) if that’s helpful for you.

If you want to go the full Howard Shilcott, I still very much enjoy reading the rail enthusiasts’ forums posts about the myriad tube-related continuity errors in TEH. I’ll let you Google those for yourself. 😉

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Ran this past my husband (who is totally the full Howard Shilcott) and he made a few corrections (and a lot of faces!) before I posted: he wishes it to be known that he ‘remains unhappy about [my summary of] Fenchurch Street’ and thinks I should add Charing Cross to the list so people know how to get to Kent. So that’s all clear then. 😂

[stephensmithuk]

The Beryl Coronet

This is the final story that we're covering from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.

Coronets generally don't have gemstones in them. The "crown" of nobles and princes, British ones were historically only worn at coronations and were not worn at the 2023 coronation of Charles III. With most peers being life peers now, buying a coronet isn't really a good investment.

The Metropolitan Station is Baker Street Underground Station; the Metropolitan Railway remaining an independent railway until 1933. The original platforms are now used by Hammersmith & City and Circle Line trains; you can also find a bunch of Holmes-related

Watson fat shames someone again!

It's generally thought that the client is meant to be the then Prince of Wales, the later Edward VII. The man had quite the playboy reputation and a year after this had to give evidence in a civil trial for slander over a baccarat game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_baccarat_scandal

The client has asked for a few million pounds in today's money and is essentially pawning a piece of the Crown Jewels!

"The turf" refers to horse racing - Arthur is dealing with heavy gambling debts.

Streatham is five miles from Charing Cross and had become part of London in 1889. Then a prosperous suburb, developing due to its railway connections - it was less than 20 minutes from Victoria - and home to the first supermarket in the UK, it became distinctly Inner London with the 1965 creation of Greater London. It then suffered a major decline as people moved further south and traffic became an issue. It has revived somewhat in recent years and is now a fairly nice suburb.

Yes, home delivery of groceries was a thing back then.

"When you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" - this is the first short story appearance - it is in The Sign of the Four before this.

Not sure walking barefoot in the snow is good for your feet...

David Burke, the first Granada Watson, played Sir George Burnwell in the 1965 BBC adaptation.

[ghost-lobster]

Combining two of my own interests in a way that no one asked for and will be interesting to maybe three other people lets go: Which London Underground lines the ghosts would have been able to use! This may be a long read.

Going with ghosts from Fanny onwards, as they are the only ones that would have been able to.

Fanny - born 1855, died ambiguously past some point in 1912

Bakerloo - opened 1906, would have been able to use it!

Central - opened as the Central London Railway in 1900, so yup! She also would have been around for two of its expansions, one in 1908 and another in 1912.

Circle - not technically its own line in her lifetime, but the tracks the now circle line is on were owned by two railway companies - the Metropolitan Railway and District Railway.

District - opened 1868, had several expansions within her lifetime from then.

Hammersmith & City - opened 1864. She also would have been around for it becoming electricity operated in 1906!

Jubilee - no, opened as the Jubilee line in 1979.

Metropolitan - opened 1863, made electric in 1905 (not north of Rickmansworth until 1961)

Piccadilly - opened 1906

Waterloo & City - opened 1898, although at this point it technically was not its own underground line.

Captain - assuming he was born sometime in the 1890s-1900s and died in/just past 1945

Bakerloo - yep! Would also be alive for its claim of the initially Metropolitan Stanmore branch!

Central - depending on exactly when he died he could've seen some of this lines expansion post-ww2, but other than that, it was around in his lifetime!

Circle - would have been around for the Circle line becoming more similar to how it is today, although it still didn't technically become its own line until 1949 (assuming he's dead at that point).

District - yeah it was there. Same as Fanny really.

H&C - Would have seen its expansion in 1936, which replaced the old District line up to Barking.

Jubilee - same as Fanny

Metropolitan - also largely the same as Fanny

Northern - opened in 1937 from a combination of two railways. Expanded a bit between 1939 and 1941. There were further plans for extension but these were put on halt due to the war and eventually scrapped in 1954.

Piccadilly - would have been alive for its expansion in the 1930s.

W&C - around for the replacement of the original wooden trains on the line in 1940.

Pat - born 1945, died 1984

Bakerloo - around for the closing of the Stanmore branch on the Bakerloo line in 1979 following the opening of the Jubilee line.

Central - yeah it was there for him. No major changes.

Circle - Became its own line in 1949 when he would've been 4 ig lol.

District - no major changes

H&C - still nothing really new

Jubilee - alive for its opening!

Metropolitan - alive for the switch to electric trains between Amersham and Chesham in 1961

Northern - no major changes

Piccadilly - would have been alive for the expansion to Heathrow Airport terminals! Former terminal 1 and terminals 2 and 3 were added between 1975-77

Victoria - woo vicky line is here! Construction began in 1962 and it opened gradually between 1968-71.

W&C - no major changes

Julian - born ??? like the 1950s/60s maybe?, died 1991 or 93 I literally can't remember rn my bad

also going to omit lines where nothing drastic happens now soz

Central - just missed out on being able to witness the closure of the Epping to Ongar service in 1994.

H&C - became its own real line in 1988!

Jubilee - If he died in '93 not '91, he may have been able to witness the very beginning of the extension of the Jubilee line

Piccadilly - also would have seen the expansions to Heathrow, but with terminal 4 as well, which was added in 1986.

Victoria - same as Pat

W&C - just missed out on being able to witness the Waterloo and City line actually become its own line in 1994.

[baronmpontmercy]

Why is everyone and their mother on the Hammersmith and city line this morning

[lonelyroommp3]

updated list of bits of the tube (& adjacent tfl trains) network i personally think are fake regardless of whether or not i’ve actually been on them to prove otherwise

central line ealing broadway branch. what’s the point

the central line in general honestly. i think it was made up as some sort of monster to scare people who work in the city

the hammersmith and city line. get your own identity. also why are you pink? bit gay.

district line to kensington olympia. self explanatory. has anyone ever actually used this service

turnham green station (piccadilly line only)

the seats on the metropolitan line that face forwards/backwards like normal trains. bro thinks he’s the bakerloo line 😂🫵

the bit of the jubilee line that’s not the fancy extension especially when it’s above ground. what are my beautiful fancypants trains doing out in the open without any platform doors or coldly futuristic architecture. it’s like seeing a thoroughbred horse grazing up some random hill somewhere

all the clapham stations that have underground island platforms 5cm wide. that’s what tube platforms look like in my nightmares about getting crushed into a smoothie by a passing northern line train

obviously that random overground line that goes from romford to upminster

honestly the whole overground network that goes out of liverpool street. especially their needlessly complex bicycle rules

acton main line station on the lizzy line. if you tell me this is your local station that you use daily i won’t believe you. especially as there’s more than enough actons to go around

the bit of the piccadilly line up towards uxbridge that doesn’t run early mornings for whatever reason. i get not everyone’s a morning person but get a grip?

the heathrow terminal 4 loop

vaguely related, but marylebone in general. you cannot convince me that’s a real terminus

[djmossback]

Spacebar 20 May 2023

Third Space Saturday

The Set 2100 to 0153

Sade, Hang On To Your Love (12”, Long Version)

Joe Jackson, Steppin’ Out (12” 45 RPM CUT)

INXS, The One Thing (Extended Version from the Deka-Dance ep)

Cameo, Back and Forth (7” edit, on the 12” single)

Prince, I Wanna Be Your Lover (7” 45)

Haircut One Hundred, Love Plus One (7” 45)

Police, Roxanne (7” 45)

UTFO, Roxanne Roxanne (7” 45)

Soho, Hippychick (12” Cut)

Lakeside, Fantastic Voyage LP CUT

Mark Morrison, Return Of The Mack LP CUT

Bee Gees, Jive Talkin’(7” 45)

Alan Jackson, Chattahoochie (7” 45)

Michael Jackson, Workin’ Day And Night (7” 45)

Bay City Rollers, Saturday Night (7” 45)

S.O.S Band, Take Your Time (Do It Right) (7” 45)

David Bowie, Let’s Dance 12” cut, long version

Stealers Wheel, Stuck In The Middle With You (7” 45)

Average White Band, Pick up The Pieces LP CUT

Amii Stewart, Knock On Wood (12” Cut)

Human League, Human (12” Cut)

Orb, Little Fluffy Clouds (12” Cut)

Commodores, Lady (You Bring Me Up) (7” 45)

Mos Def, Ms. Fat Booty (12” Cut)

Scritti Politti, Sweetest Girl (12” Cut)

Abyssinians, Declaration Of Rights LP CUT

Kate Bush, Sat On Your Lap (7” 45)

Cheryl Lynn, Got To Be Real (7” 45)

Soft Cell, Tainted Love (7” 45)

Generation X, Dancing With Myself (7” ep )

Dry Cleaning, Scratchcard Lanyard (7” 45)

Tommy Tutone, 867-5309 (7” 45)

Junior, Mama Used To Say (12” Cut)

Siouxsie & The Banshees, Peek-A-Boo (12” Cut)

Kylie Minogue, Can’t Get Blue Monday Out Of My Head (12” Cut)

DEVO, Snowball (remix) (7” 45)

TLC, No Scrubs (12” Cut)

Vince Staples, Norf Norf LP CUT

Apollonia 6, Sex Shooter (12” Cut)

Pet Shop Boys, West End Girls (12” Cut)

Nazareth, Hair Of The Dog LP CUT

Rufus Thomas, Walking The Dog (7” 45)

ZZ Top , Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers LP CUT

Bob Seger System, Ramblin Gamblin Man LP CUT

Cure, The Walk EP CUT

Sleaford Mods, Nudge It LP CUT

Presidents Of The United States Of America, Lump LP CUT

Ruts, Babylon’s Burning LP CUT

Cramps, What’s inside A Girl (12” Cut)

Cypress Hill, How I Could Just Kill A Man (12” Cut)

Killing Joke, Follow The Leaders LP CUT

Stooges, Loose LP CUT

Bad Brains, Pay To Cum (7” 45)

Rick James, Super Freak (12” Cut)

Climax Blues Band, Couldn’t Get It Right (7” 45)

Cyndi Lauper, Girls Just Want To Have Fun (7” 45)

Link Wray & His Ray Men, Rumble LP CUT

Thin Lizzy, Boys Are Back In Town LP CUT

Jay-Z, 99 Problems LP CUT

Gap Band, You Dropped A Bomb On Me LP CUT

Cars, Gimme Some Slack LP CUT

Booker T & The MG’s, Hip-Hug Her LP CUT

Ice Cube, Amerikkka’s Most Wanted (12” Cut)

Leroy Sibbles, Express Yourself LP CUT

Heatwave, The Groove Line (7” 45)

Fred Schneider & The Shake Society, Monster (12” Cut)

G.Q., Boogie Oogie Oogie (7” 45)

Devon Russell, Move On Up LP CUT

The Clash, White Man In Hammersmith Palais (7” 45)

Ray Bryant Combo, Madison Time LP CUT

Eddie Cochran, Twenty Flight Rock LP CUT

Moon Mullican, Seven Nights To Rock LP CUT

Fugazi, Song Number One (7” 45)

Laid Back, White Horse (12” Cut)

Kendrick Lamar, YAH LP CUT

I was late. Did yardwork and took a walk, and got my wife out the door to her night shift. Then I dozed off. Woke up, got going.. Did not prepare anything different for the night. I just took an extra box of 45's. I need to get the library together! I have a lot of records, in no real order…..

Order. Maybe that’s not who I am. I have to try. Who knows whether I will keep it together, but I’m going to have to try, just to honor the creators of these records, to serve the interests of the people who provide the theater of operations I’m working in, and to the people who wander in, to have a drink, to play a game or make a connection somehow. At the very least, do no harm to the vibe.

LEAVE THE VIBE CAMPSITE IN BETTER CONDITION THAN YOU FOUND IT!

[28dayslater]

Train announcer sounds like it’s stuck on loop saying this is a Hammersmith and city line to… Hammersmith! The next station is… Hammersmith! Okay bro we get it 😂🤣😂🤣

[europeposts]

Baker Street

Underground station in London, England

Entrance to Baker Street tube station. Taken during my Circle Line Tube Walk.

A Hammersmith and City Line train to Barking arrives at Baker Street's oldest platforms opened in 1863

Baker Street is a London Underground station at the junction of Baker Street and the Marylebone Road in the City of Westminster. It is one of the original stations of the Metropolitan Railway, the world's first underground railway, opened on 10 January 1863. 

Address: Baker Street Underground Station Undergound Ltd, Marylebone Rd, London NW1 5LJ

Opened: 1863

Architects: Sir John Fowler, 1st Baronet, Charles Walter Clark

Entry number: 1239815

Fare zone: 1

London borough: City of Westminster

10 January 1863: Opened (MR)

10 March 1906: Opened (BS&WR, as terminus)

Added to list: 26 March 1987; 36 years ago

External links: TfL station info page

Listing grade: II* (since 28 June 2010)

Baker Street tube station - Wikipedia