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"THE BUCCANEERS" (1995) Review
"THE BUCCANEERS" (1995) Review
Years ago, I had anticipating watching for the first time, "THE BUCCANEERS", the 1995 television adaptation of Edith Whartonâs last novel. After all, I have been a major fan of "THE AGE OF INNOCENCE", Martin Scorceseâs 1993 adaptation of Whartonâs award-winning 1920 novel for years. But my eager anticipating nearly ebbed away, when I discovered that "THE BUCCANEERS" only managed to rouse a lukewarm reception from many television critics.
The five-part miniseries turned out to be an unusual production from the BBC. One, it was based upon a novel written by an American author â namely Edith Wharton. There have been other British television productions based upon the literary works of an American, but they are very rare. Another interesting aspect of Whartonâs "The Age of Innocence" is that the author did not finish it, due to her death at the age of 75. Fifty-six years later, Wharton scholar Marion Mainwaring finished the novel, which was published by Viking. Around the same time, the BBC hired screenwriter Maggie Wadey to adapt and finish the novel for the television adaptation. As a result the novel has two slightly different endings. Another aspect of this miniseries that struck me as unusual was that instead of hiring British actresses to portray four of the five leads, the BBC hired four Amercian actresses â Carla Gugino, Mira Sorvino, Alison Elliott and Rya Kihlstedt.
The plotline for "THE BUCCANEERS" is very simple. The story begins in 1873 Newport, Rhode Island; in which two sisters of a noveau riche businessman and their two friends are introduced â Virginia "Ginny" and Annabel "Nan" St. George, Conchita "Connie" Closson and Elizabeth "Lizzy" Elmsworth. Whereas the Brazilian born Conchita manages to snare Lord Richard Marabel, the dissolute second son of the Marquess of Brightlingsea, the other three girls struggle to find a place amongst the members of old New York society. When a prank committed by Ginny and Lizzy backfires, Nanâs English governess Laura Testvalley proposes to Mrs. St. George that Ginny and Nan have a London season amongst the upper-class British. She argues that their acceptance by the British high society would assure them a place amongst the upper-class New Yorkers. Due to their friendship with the vibrant Conchita, Virginia and Annabel are introduced to Lord Richardâs family â the impoverished Brightlingseas and their neighbors, the equally impoverished Sir Helmsey Thwaite and his son Guy. As they get settled to conquer British society, Ginny and Nan are surprised by the arrival of Lizzy, who has arrived in Britain for her own season.
Although the girlsâ original purpose for visiting Britain was to enjoy a London season, a friend of Laura Testvalley has other plans for them. Thirty years earlier, the American born Jackie March had been engaged to a British aristocrat â namely the very young Lord Brightlingsea, who abandoned her at the altar. Miss March remained in Britain and became something of a sponsor/matchmaker for young society girls. It was Miss March who recommended that the visiting Americans rent a villa owned by one of her former sponsors, Lady Idina Hutton. She also recommended that the girls do more than just enjoy a London season in order to impress old New York society. She recommended that they consider marrying into upper-class British society. Miss Marchâs plans eventually come to fruition:
*Virginia or namely her fatherâs wealth attracted the attention of Lady Idina Huttonâs lover and Lord Richardâs older brother, Lord Seadown.
*Lizzy ended up marrying a self-made aspiring politician named Hector Robinson
*Annabel fell in love with Guy Thwaite, but ended up marrying the very wealthy Julian Folyat, Duke of Trevennick; when Guy left Britain to find his fortune in South America.
As I had stated earlier, most critics were not initially kind to "THE BUCCANEERS". Most British critics dismissed it as a costumed soap opera of the second-rate kind, with an ending that had been "Hollywoodized" (happy ending). These same critics also accused the miniseries of mocking the British aristocracy. The American critics, at least those who considered themselves Wharton purists, accused the miniseriesâ screenwriter, Maggie Waddey, of changing the elements of the authorâs story by including topics such as marital rape and homosexuality. Personally, I found all of these arguments irrelevant. Most dramas about personal lives â whether first-rate or not â tend to possess soap-operish elements. This hostility toward soap operas has always struck me as infantile and irrelevant. And why are all Hollywood productions guilty of having a happy ending, when that has not been the case? Other literary works and their adaptations have mocked the British aristocracy. Why was there such a big hullabaloo over how the aristocracy was portrayed in this particular story? As for the additions of marital rape and homosexuality, these elements did no harm to the story, as far as I am concerned. And I must admit that I have become increasingly weary of demands that all movie or television adaptations should be completely faithful to their literary source. Such demands strike me as impractical.
My complaints about "THE BUCCANEERS" are very few. In fact, I only have two. The first time I ever saw actress Gwen Humble on the television screen was in a miniseries called "THE REBELS", an adaptation of a John Jakes novel. Although I had no problems with her performance in that particular production, I must admit that I had a problem with her performance as Virginia and Annabelâs mother, Mrs. St. George. I understand that Mrs. St. George was supposed to be a shallow and somewhat silly woman. But I feel that Humble went a little too far in conveying those certain traits. Her performance struck me as exaggerated and a little amateurish. Another problem I had with "THE BUCCANEERS" is a rather minor one. It has to do with Virginiaâs husband, Lord Seadown. His father is a marquess â which is ranked somewhere between a duke and an earl (count). As the eldest son, he is entitled to a courtesy title. But what was Seadownâs courtesy title? His younger brother was called Lord Richard Marable, which is correct for the younger son of a marquess. The courtesy title for the eldest son of a marquess is usually an earldom â namely Earl of Something. Was Seadownâs name a courtesy title - Earl of Seadown? Or was he supposed to be regarded as Lord Seadown Marable? If the latter, what was the courtesy title he used? I found it all slightly confusing.
However, "THE BUCCANEERS" has been one of my all time favorite miniseries, ever since I first saw it. And there is so much about it that has made it such a favorite of mine. One, producer-director Philip hired a production crew that did justice to Whartonâs story. The miniseries featured some elegant locations that served as the storyâs various settings. Some of these locations included Castle Howard, Burghley House and Newport, Rhode Island. I also enjoyed Remi Adefarasinâs photography. It had a deep and rich color that did justice to a story filled with emotions and passion. Colin Towns provided an elegant and entertaining score that remained memorable for me, since the first time I heard it years ago. But it was Rosalind Ebbuttâs costumes that really blew my mind. She provided exquisitely outfits that were beautiful and elegant â especially those for the lead actresses. More importantly, her costumes not only reflected the fashions wore by the American and British upper-classes during the 1870s, they also reflected the change in the main charactersâ status and in womenâs fashion throughout the decade, as the following photographs show:
Another one of the major virtues of "THE BUCCANEERS" turned out to be its cast. Whartonâs novel is filled with interesting characters. And Saville and his casting director did an excellent job in finding the right actor/actress for the right role. Aside from Gwen Humbleâs portrayal of Mrs. St. George, there were so many first-rate performances in the miniseries that it would take me another article just to describe them. But the supporting performances that stood out for me came from the likes of Sheila Hancock, whose portrayal of the Dowager Duchess of Trevenick struck me as an expert mixture of cool haughtiness, sharp wisdom and long suffering; Michael Kitchen, who skillfully conveyed both the charming and shallow nature of Sir Helmsley Thwaite; Jenny Agutter, who was excellent as Lady Idina Hatton, Lord Seadownâs insecure and tragic mistress; Dinsdale Landen and Rosemary Leach, who both portrayed the Marquess and Marchioness of Brightlingsea with a mixture of class haughtiness, charm and great humor; Peter M. Goetz, who seemed to personify the self-made 19th century American businessman; and Connie Booth, who gave one of her best performances as the ambitious and sharp-minded Jackie March.
Richard Huw gave a humorous, yet intelligent performance as Hector Robinson, the ambitious young Member of Parliament who ends up winning Lizzy Elmsworthâs hand. And Mark Tandy was pretty solid as Lord Brightlingseaâs heir, the mercenary Lord Seadown who marries Virginia for Colonel St. Georgeâs money. I was very impressed by Ronan Vibertâs portrayal of the dissolute Lord Richard Marabel, Conchitaâs husband and Lord Brightlingseaâs younger son. But the two male performances that really impressed me came from Greg Wise and James Frain. The latter portrayed the haughty Julian Duke of Trevenick, who manages to win the hand Annabel St. George (much to the surprise of her governess), before alienating her with his lack of skills as a husband. Frain could have easily portrayed Julian as a one-note villain, especially when one considers the act of marital rape that his character committed against his wife in Episode Three. Being the skillful actor that he is, Frain conveyed all facets of Julianâs personality â both the good and the bad. And his assertion near the end of Episode Four that he is "not a monster" may have been one of Frainâs finest moments on screen. Greg Wise probably gave one of what I consider to be three of his best career performances in his portrayal of Guy Thwaite, Sir Helmsleyâs only son. His Guy could have been one of your typical handsome, romantic heroes. But Wise did an excellent job in revealing how Guyâs insecurities regarding his lack of funds led him to lose Annabel to Julian. And he also conveyed how in the throes of love, Guy could be a slightly selfish man with no thought to how his "friendship" with Annabel might affect her social standing. Thanks to Wiseâs performance, his Guy Thwaite proved to be equally complex.
We finally come to our five leads in the story â the four American heiresses and Annabel St. Georgeâs English governess, Laura Testvalley. I have noticed that whenever someone brings up Cheri Lunghi, he or she inevitable brings up her role in "THE BUCCANEERS", the Anglo-Italian governess Miss Testvalley. I certainly cannot blame them. Lunghi proved to be the glue that held the story together, skillfully serving as its eyes and narrator at the beginning of each episode. Rya Kihlstedt gave a charming and solid performance as the blunt and level-headed Lizzy Elmsworth, who seemed more impressed by Hector Robinsonâs ambitions than any aristocrat. She and Richard Huw managed to create a very credible screen presence. Alison Elliottâs Virginia St. George proved to be one of the most complicated characters in the story. Thanks to the actressâ excellent performance, she conveyed Virginiaâs haughtiness and obsession with being connected to an aristocratic family; and at the same time, garnered sympathy by expressing the characterâs love for her husband and disappointment upon discovering that he had only married her for money. And less than a year before she won her Academy Award, Mira Sorvino proved just how first-rate she could be as an actress in her portrayal of the Brazilian-born Conchita Closson. Her Conchita was a delicious and complicated minx torn by her desire for the luxurious and glamorous lifestyle of the British aristocracy and her contempt for what she deemed as their cold personalities. If Cheri Lunghiâs Laura Testvalley was the storyâs eyes and narrator, Carla Guginoâs Annabel St. George aka the Duchess of Trevenick proved to be the heart and soul of "THE BUCCANEERS". Thanks to Guginoâs superb performance, the actress literally transformed Nan from the childish and naĂŻve sixteen year-old girl, to the bewildered nineteen year-old bride and finally to the weary twenty-one year-old wife, disappointed by a failed marriage and in love with another man. There are times that I wondered if any other actress could have accomplished what she did. It seemed a pity that none of the major television and critics awards organizations never acknowledged her performance with a nomination.
Many critics have heaped a great deal of scorn upon Maggie Wadeyâs adaptation of Whartonâs novel. Frankly, I believe this scorn was undeserved. I may not have been that impressed by her other works, but I honestly believe that "THE BUCCANEERS" was her masterpiece by far. Many accused her of failing to adapt Whartonâs "spirit" or "style" by including marital rape and homosexuality into the story. Since both topics where added without any tasteless sensationalism, I had no problems with these additions. And Wadey also made sure to give the storyâs happy ending something of a bittersweet edge. Despite leaving Julian for the man she loved, Guy Thwaite, Annabel found herself ostracized by society and especially by her sister Virginia â as was proven at the Marquess of Brightlingseaâs funeral. Annabel and Guyâs elopement also left the latter disinherited by his father, Sir Helmsley. And her assistance in the elopement left Laura Testvalley rejected by Sir Helmsley and unemployed. So much for the "happy ending". Because the story revolved around four American heiresses marrying into the British upper-classes, "THE BUCCANEERS" also proved to be an interesting study in culture clash between two Western nations in the mid-to-late nineteenth century. But in all of the articles I have read about the miniseries, I find it surprising that no one has bothered to noticed that the topic of the continuing decline of the British aristocracy was also mentioned . . . more than once. It almost became a secondary theme. The Brightlingseasâ interest in the St. George family certainly seemed an indication that they were more willing to marry money â regardless from where it came â rather than find a way to earn it. This seemed like a far cry from Guy Thwaite, who preferred to create his own wealth with two years in South America, rather than marry it. And the character of the Marquess of Brightlingsea literally became a symbol of the aristocracyâs decline in scenes like a heated conversation between him and Hector Robinson; and a speech by Guy Thwaite to the House of Commons during a montage that featured of his death.
Now that I think about it, why should I care what others feel about "THE BUCCANEERS"? Every time I watch it, I always fall in love with the miniseries over and over again. Maggie Wadey wrote an excellent adaptation of Whartonâs novel â probably her best work or masterpiece, as far as I am concerned. Led by the likes of Carla Gugino, Cheri Lunghi, Greg Wise and James Frain, the cast proved to be first-rate. And Philip Saville did justice to both the cast and Wadeyâs screenplay in his direction of the miniseries.
#edith wharton#edith wharton's the buccaneers#the buccaneers#the buccaneers 1995#maggie wadey#philip saville#carla gugino#cheri lunghi#greg wise#james frain#alison elliott#mira sorvino#rya kihlstedt#mark tandy#ronan vibert#richard huw#dinsdale landen#rosemary leach#gwen humble#peter michael goetz#conchata ferrell#michael kitchen#elizabeth ashley#james rebhorn#sheila hancock#jenny agutter#gilded age#victorian age#emily hamilton#connie booth
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Sian Phillips, Joanna Lumley, Marjorie Bland, Niall Buggy, Ron Cook, Charlotte Cornwell, Greg Hicks, Gwen Humble & Harold Pinter (Director) â Complete Signed Theatre Programme â âVanillaâ â The Lyric Theatre, London â 1990
#Sian Phillips#Joanna Lumley#Marjorie Bland#Niall Buggy#Ron Cook#Charlotte Cornwell#Greg Hicks#Gwen Humble#Harold Pinter#Theatre Programme#Vanilla#The Lyric Theatre#London#1990#1990s#1900s#Playbill#Jane Stanton Hitchcock
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Currently imagining Arthur + Gwen + the knights asking someone (maybe druids?) who this famous "Emrys" is and they proceed to do a version of "We Don't Talk About Bruno" while Arthur, Gwen and the knights grow increasingly more distressed with each line and Merlin hyperventilates in the background
#bruno is VERY merlin-coded fight me on this#these lyrics were MADE for him#he walks in with a mischievous grin: THUNDER#grew to live in fear of him stuttering and stumbling#i can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling#it's a heavy lift with a gift so humbling#grappling with prophecies we couldn't understand#someone says the SEVEN-FOOT FRAME line and by this point gwaine looks paler than a paper sheet and elyan wants to cover his ears#cue to them all heading back home later agreeing that they never should have brought up emrys#merlin passed out for a second but they were all too scared to notice#lancelot however had the time of his life#he's considering writing a full musical#merlin is considering turning him into livestock but that's going to have to wait until he can breathe properly so maybe 2-3 business days#merlin emrys#arthur pendragon#guinevere pendragon#gwen#the knights of the round table#knights of the round table#bbc merlin#we don't talk about bruno#encanto
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âIn life, you always have a choice. Sometimes, itâs easier to think that you donât.â
âI donât want to be brave. I just want to be myself.â
âSome lives have been foretold, Merlin. Take heart, for when Albionâs need is greatest, Arthur will rise again.â
âThere is not right or wrong. Only what is and what isnât.â
âAn half cannot hate what truly makes it whole.â
âNo young man, no matter how great, can know his destiny.â
âIâm happy to be your servant, until the day I die.â
âSometimes, you have to do what is right and damn the consequences!â
âYouâre a son of the earth, the sea, the sky. Magic is the fabric of this world, and you were born of that magic. You are magic itself.â
âEverything hereâis so full of life. Every tree, every leaf, every insect. Itâs as if the world is⊠Vibrating. As if everything is much more than itself.â
âI donât want you to change. I want you, to alwaysâbe you.â
âUntil then, we go unmarked in death as in life.â
âYouâre wrong. Donât think I donât understand loyalty just because Iâve got no one left to be loyal to.â
âYouâre like two sides of the same coin.â
And in the same show, youâve got an episode where the entire castle suffers from flatulence, Uther goes bald, the court physician slaps the king across the aforementioned bald head, more than once, while being possessed by a Goblin, the prince Arthur Pendragon gets donkey ears and brays, and another one when Uther, none other than the King of Camelot, marries a Troll.
The duality.
#i live for it honestly#they killed a character the previous episode and then apologised with a goblin#pure gold if you ask me#also peak comedy in my humble opinion#but these quotes are iconic? like hello?!?! they go hard?! what the fuck#merthur#bbc merlin#merlin#arthur pendragon#merlin bbc#merlin x arthur#especially mordred#it hits home honestly#merlin quotes#and gwen and morganaâs quotes too? damn#how did they come up with this genius and then gave us that horrible finale#somehow#i do wonder
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camelot has a betting pool that everyone has participated in at least once (including actual children) about when and how merlin and arthur are going to get together (and one about whether theyâre together already or not). after arthur and gwen get engaged, a new betting pool is made - how long until that marriage falls apart
#bbc merlin#merthur#merlin emrys#arthur pendragon#gwen#guinevere#idk why but im in an anti-arwen mood#not anti gwen!!! i love and adore her!! just not with arthur!!!#she has two hands for morgana and lancelot#arthur has two hands for merlin bc GOD is he a handful#should i post my other anti-arwen post?#these arent even really anti-arwen. theyâre just me hardcore not shipping them#gwen and arthur are good as friends#not so much in a relationship#in my humble opinion anyway#everyone knows how much merlin and arthur love each other#arthur proposing to gwen was a curveball absolutely no one was expectibg#expecting*#they are shocked and appalled and feel bad for merlin#some who are close enough to the inner workings of the castle or the gossip wheel#also feel bad for morgana and lancelot#for reasons listed in previous tags
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Gwen in Yor accessories :3
Im not good with traditional art, the sticky note didnât make things that much better lol
#I love when people draw Gwen with Anusiaâs headband sm#aubsposts#AubsArt<3#gwendolyn bouchard#gwen bouchard#the magnus protocal#tmagp#the magnus protocal fanart#tmagp fanart#yor#pen sketches#humbled by traditional art#traditional art
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Spiders in varying degrees of distress
#life hit me really fucking hard with the humble stick today so please take some extremely low effort doodles#e x t r e e m l e y low effort#miles morales#ben riley#gwen stacy#spiderman#my art#digital art#sketch
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How the Spider society members look after Mayday-
Peter B- "I love her so much, I'll let her do anything and make sure to take photos of everything AND be gushing over every one of those photos" 10/10 approach, never not take hundreds of photos of your bapy if you have one, also put them in stupid hats like you will NEVER regret silly hat photos
Miguel- *is a serious faced climbing wall* (when nobody is there to look at what mayday's doing he's so good at diverting her to nonsense tasks that it's jealousy inducing, he can keep a child occupied with just scrap paper, let me tell you it's a skill)
Gwen- *just tails the child nervously* "M-maybe we shouldn't bite that? Ye?... Can you... try spitting it out?" (Is anxious around children from experiencing first hand the chaos they bring, but has not figured out how to deal with it yet)
Pavitr- does magic tricks, showes her diffrent types of shiney things, gives her different types of paints and craft supplies to play with with supervision, plays her songs, give her stuff like xylophones and trys his best to teach her to play, she just ends up making baby tunes (random noises). The thing is, whoever is in charge of cleaning up spider society HATES him.
Hobbie- definitely has taught her to dance and head bang, lets her play tag to her heart's content, takes her and goes for these showy swings around the city to entertain her, but of course while making sure he knows what he's doing. (It's like adventure sports to the kid, and she likes it very much)
Extra interactions~
Jessica- "Everyday I'm doubting if I'm prepared enough."
Lyla- "Now what do you want Mayday?? =]" "What cat say" "Dear I've been meowing for half an hour and cannot comprehend how you find this entertaining still"
Ben Riley- Best story teller out there, he reads her childrens stories and the child is always captivated by his dramatics
#astv#across the spider verse#Mayday#mayday parker#peter b parker#humbling reality Spiderman#miguel o'hara#astv miguel#spiderman 2099#gwen stacy#astv gwen#ghost spider#pavitr prabhakar#astv pavitr#spiderman india#hobbie brown#astv hobie#spider punk#jessica drew#ben riley#atsv lyla
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itâs stand on business oâclock, cz i know yâall sick gw*les & p*nkflower shippers + delulu gwen stans ainât try to run my girl bree (@breeandhermunches) off her blog⊠you got me all the way fucked up and ima tag this in ALL the categories. you canât do anything about it đ€Ł if youâre upset, then scroll ho. if you know iâm not talking about you, then have a great day! 𫶠if the shoe fits, then wear it.
iâm getting disrespectful. ima return the energy you hoes dished out n you better take it like some mf champs. yâall wanted to fuck around so now you gotta hear my mouth and find out. read it ân weep. clearing you bitches gives me life.
such a shame weâre back here, but yâall are mad, mad miserable. like, iâve never seen a fandom so chronically online. are you even trying to mask the fact that you rarely step outside anymoreâŠ? đŹ
let me making it so very clear why iâm making this post in the first place, bc yâall seem to struggle with my main concerns never clicking in your heads.
yâall have the time to sit in somebodyâs inbox and complain about their hatred towards fictional ships, meanwhile the people yâall complain about stay on their pages and mind their business? đ€š those people being US. ion recall none of us going directly to YOUR pages to hate on punkflower and gwiles. if we hate, itâs on our pages. i donât go looking for a mf fight, thatâs mad childish. yâall were riding breeâs dick like crazy. at this point, her hate for gwiles must keep yâall up at night. talk to a therapist about that. itâs not healthy. iâm gna address ALL the bs yâall be on.
so now that you know why iâm posting this, let me set few things straight for yâall.
âdonât use the ship tag to hate! đ€Źđ€Źâ the day you copyright and trademark the tag, present me with an official âtumblr etiquetteâ rule book or, show me proof that you own tumblr is the day iâll stop. ima do wtv i want whenever i want, please get that thru ya hollow ass heads. yâall arenât entitled to anything. not respect, not no damn âcommon courtesy,â ESPECIALLY not over dysfunctional ships/fictional characters đ€Ł i donât owe you SHIT.
some of were yâall tryna go back and forth with me at the grown ass age of TWENTY. over GWILES. a sixteen yr old vs a twenty yr old, see your life đđ itâs truly alarming. go get employed. if you alr are, then call your manager and pick up some more shifts bc you clearly ainât doing enough. if college graduation rates begin to decline, i know exactly who to come to. everythingâs going up and even tho you should be standing on some mf business so you can afford the cost of living, youâre arguing with teenagers online instead. a lot of you have too much free time.
âyou posted this publicly under the tag, you canât expect people not to want to argueâ yes i can! block me and scroll. we donât have to argue. i donât remember starting an argument? i was never on your pages. i only reblog shit when it appears on my dash. like i said, iâm not searching far n wide for no damn fight. đ€·ââïž nobody told yâall to bitch, whine, and reblog mine or breeâs shit. your issue is that you have no self control. you donât know when to hold yourself tf back, so you feel obligated to reply. god forbid someone has a differing opinion. my post was never even about the flaws in miles and gwenâs relationship. i was talking about how it is disappointing to see milesâ story be reduced to a love story. unfortunately, yâall forgot to put your glasses on beforehand and read âi hate gwiles.â yes, i hate gwiles!!! but that was not the point of my post. yâall are either illiterate or trying to let off some serious steam. iâm not having any of it. maybe yâall are upset i called you delusional, but youâve effortlessly proven my point.
this is the internet. you have the tools to avoid seeing what me n bree hv to say, so why are you throwing a tantrum like a goddamn child instead of utilizing them?? youâre not special. the world doesnât revolve around you and what you want. people are dying n youâre worried about a hate post under a ship tag?? mind you, that was the one and only âhate postâ iâve EVER put under that fuckass tag đ bree will make one post about gwiles, and yâall are the ones whoâll drag it out, then call her âobsessed.âweâre doomed bc yâall are doomed.
the white mfs complaining ab the term âsnow bunnyâ⊠jesus đ€Šââïž ts didnât even mean what you think it meant in the first place. it was originally used to refer to female skiers. some of yâall swear up, down, n all around that being âracistâ to white people is the same as racism towards black people, and itâs not. letâs use âsnow bunnyâ and the n-word as examples:
snow bunny had an alternative use before it was used to refer to white people. thereâs no significant history behind it at all, unless you count tiktok as history. the n word has always been the n word. itâs always been derogatory, and anyone will a brain would know itâs mad history behind the word. it roots in deep hatred. people continue to use this word to belittle those who are black, or use it lightly around their friends nd behind closed doors as if itâs a common cuss word. yâallâs experiences with âracismâ are nowhere near comparable to the experiences black people have BEEN facing and will be facing for fucking ever. white people have and always will be seen as the superior race, therefore, you face minimal to no âracismâ outside of the internet, and iâd do anything to be able to say that. donât even @ me talking about âđ„čđ„č that doesnât make racism against white people okaââ i donât care. at all. drink some water. youâll be fine.
âyou guys hate women!!!â âyâall hate gwen bc sheâs white!!â like, you sound so fkn dumb nd all i can do is sit and stare at you.
me nd bree are black girls. people from EVERY race and EVERY ethnicity hate black people and EVERYONE hates black girls. hell, not even black men like us. why on godâs green mf earth would we ever want sb else to feel that way??
yk what yâall need to do? yâall need to quit whining and accept the fact that bree doesnât like gwen because of what she did to miles. itâs as simple as that. stop trying to complicate things bc you so desperately want to deem her and other people who hate gwen âracistsâ or âmisogynists.â no. i fw gwen heavy, nd me and bree are able to coexist bc neither of us are fucking delusional and regularly touch grass đ€·ââïž same thing with all my other mutuals.
meanwhile, you hoes get your panties in a twist when sb calls gwen a snow bunny as if sheâs a sentient being whoâs going to cry over ts, like, no. your feelings are hurt? take a fucking walk! nobody has to like her.
and punkflower, oh my god đ iâve never been homophobic and i never will be. iâm literally queer. iâm not about that friendly fire before yâall try and call me homophobic. my thing is, if hobie was originally supposed to be a nineteen year old, n now his age is unconfirmed, why in the hell would we go and age him down to sixteen?? all yâall wna do is ship that man with miles or write smut about him. some of yâall wanna do both!! you change his age when itâs convenient to you. if you donât see an issue with that, then i canât help you. youâre weird. until i hear otherwise from one of the directors, heâs 19.
ghostflower or gwiles đ the reason y yâall are sobbing or wtv. i thought yâall were exaggerating when you said gwiles was your religion, but itâs looking like i was very incorrect. real talk, ion like that fuckass ship. i donât have to and neither does anybody else. just like you lames do with gwen, you dig deep in your ass for every problematic reason possible. âyou have a racial bias!!!â âyou hate interracial relationships!!â the fuck?? đ do you cunts read what you write before you post it?? âtheyâre more obsessed with gwiles than we areâ âthey must be in love with ghostflower & gwenâ
âŠhuh? covid really set some of yâall back tremendously because it seems a concerning amount of you lack critical thinking skills. in reality, just like hating gwen, the reason we dislike gwen and miles together is SO very simple. it all boils down to the fact that gwen did miles dirt. and iâve made a separate post, iâve talked about why they would never work imo. when i present yâall with my logical reasoning, you dgaf! so the only thing you can do now is shut the hell up, unclench, and cope. since you wna get in your feelings bout it, fuck gwiles, n fuck you too.
yâall even got some of your own people agreeing w me, props to yâall btw đ itâs never you iâm talking about.
i hate that yâall made it this deep bc it didnât need to be. this is a fucking movie. none of this is real, yet you continue to harass me and bree like we murdered your immediate + extended family + the family dog that had cancer. i find myself hoping that one day yâall will realize how dumb you sound, but then i remember some of you niggas are already grown, so itâs looking quite improbable.
and also, donât b up in my reblogs chattinâ it up about shit iâve explicitly stated that idc about. i wonât repeat myself because you canât read. if this post hasnât shown you i donât give even half of a fuck about you or your feelings regarding ANYTHING at this point in time, then i donât really know what will đ€·ââïž
if i made you mad, go ahead nd suck it up fa me. we wonât be going toe to toe and debating on MY blog because youâll be actively wasting your own time, as i am not willing to hear anyone out. itâs been that way from the start and it wonât change. if you send an anon message or any type of inbox w some bs then itâll sit there until the end of time or be swiftly deleted. if you reblog this post trying to invalidate anything i just addressed, i wonât even give you the time of day, bc i said everything that needed to said. i was very articulate and extremely clear. know that i canât and wonât be swayed in the slightest. weâd just go back and forth until you decide to shut your mouth or block me. so block me now. ian the one.
if you donât get it, then you donât fucking get it, but what yâall arenât gna do is treat people the way yâall were treating bree just because she hates two ships + gwen stacy. you complain about how the fandom sucks like youâre not the same people who make being in fandoms in unenjoyable.
you usually have to go to a therapist and pay for reality checks. luckily for yâall, i gave you one for free! you needed to be humbled and i happily did the humbling. lil piece of advice: stop trying to force people to gaf if they clearly do not. block and move on with your life. you gon get tired one day. leave me, bree, n anyone else you bother tf alone. spend your energy trying to change peopleâs minds on REAL ISSUES that actually matter, not fucking spider-man.
whew, ANYWAY⊠i hope i never have to speak bout this again. act right in the near future n i wonât have to âinvade your tagsâ with long paragraphs in which i set you fools straight, thank yewww! đ«¶
god bless!! đ
#ash spills đ#fuck all of yâall#you need help#itâs no etiquette with me baby#it should never be this serious#weirdos who get no vitamin d#yâall all gon catch these strays today#sb had to humble yall#stand on business đŒ#asap#anti gwiles#gwiles#anti atsv atp#anti punkflower#ghostflower#punkflower#miles morales#gwen stacy#hobie brown#atsv#spiderverse#itsv#gwen x miles#spiderman#spider-man#get a hobby bc over analyzing every gwiles scene doesnât count#and btw this is why nobody likes yâall#hope u find peace of mind tho
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itâs starting again isnât it
#this is probably just another ~gwiles variant cover~ but it sums up what the goal of the 616 move is#once more i am humbly hoping for sgtgs to flop get cancelled and gwen to escape 616 before the gwiles contagion spreads any further#it's fuck gwiles all day every day#and fuck the spiderverse movies for breathing life into this cursed ship and dragging gwen back into it when she was just about to come out#spider gwen salt
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Just wanted to advertise this Miles/Gwen edit because itâs my favorite and deserves more attention. It has this ethereal vibe that perfectly encapsulates their relationship. Itâs so good. đ„č
#it really should have at least 100K+ views in my humble opinion#Iâve lost count how many times Iâve rewatched this#Iâm just enthralled#miles x gwen#gwiles#ghostflower
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Character archetypes: T9S edition
Leia: The Innocent
Gwen: Combo of The Outlaw and The Explorer
Nikki: The Ruler
Ozzie: Combo of The Ruler and The Everyman
Jay: The Everyman and The Sage
Nate: The Jester
#that 90s show#leia forman#gwen runck#nikki garcia#ozzie chen#jay kelso#nate runck#the '90s circle#the new gang#for ozzie i put everyman for the authentic part#lmao i love him but that man is not humble nor super friendly#jay is the jester at times but i feel like he's more serious and responsible#nate is self explanatory
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its essential to gwendolyn trevelyanâs character that she seems So cool and refined and distinguished and put together but its bc shes never been out of her comfort zone in her entire life and the moment she is she is such a fucking loser
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guy at the store today saw me buying a resident evil mug/pin, two bcs/brba shirts, a beavis and butthead pin, and a futurama lanyard and went, âthatâs certainly a mix of thingsâ IMAOOOOO
#i have very varied interests <3#i feel like ppl are probably dumbfounded by me sometimes#like i donât think half of those things mix lol#had a convo with him about RE and bcs/brba which was fun#teen me who was afraid to breathe out near someone is quaking in her boots rn#funniest guy simply for the fact that he paints figures as a hobby and one of them was him and his wife and another was him as ash#from evil dead (complete with dad bod)#he was super talented! he paints so many sick ass figures and heâs so humble about it!!#iâm not even talking little d&d figures i mean like full size shit#it was crazy#i bet by the time i can get the lady d i wanted sheâs been sold :(#bc iâm probably not gonna go back for another few weeks bc iâm going on holiday :/#but he said heâd probably make me one! which!! holy shit dude!!!#thatâs so much work just for me#but he seemed cool with it so weâll see#all in all a good day âșïž#gwen rambles#gwenposting
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I humbly request a Dyhard staredown with one of them sat on a desk, your honor
gwen is Short(TM) so obviously she has to be the one up on the desk
[ID: A digital drawing of Gwen and Alice from The Magnus Protocol having a homoerotic staredown. Gwen is a white woman with long blonde hair in a high ponytail, and she is wearing silver earrings, a grey sweater, white button-down, grey tights, and a tight black pencil skirt. Alice is a lanky white trans woman with freckles, shaggy brown hair, and silver piercings, and she is wearing pink glasses, a navy hoodie, burgundy plaid skirt, and a couple bracelets. Gwen is sitting on a desk, propping herself up with her hands, and Alice is leaning on the desk with her hands on either side of Gwen. Gwen looks annoyed while Alice is smirking at her inches from her face. Both are blushing slightly. The background is a giant dusty pink heart. end ID]
#fg's art#the magnus protocol#tmagp#gwendolyn bouchard#alice dyer#dyhard#fg's answers#asks#requests#alice looks. EXTRA long here somehow AJHSDADJHAJHSD
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Wanna know why I don't like Peter B.?
Because when Gwen was actively forced into homelessness in front of him, he literally didn't help at all. And then it gets framed on JESS.
Gwen asks for help. And Peter says this:
Jess asks him to stop talking.
And from this moment forward, Peter makes no effort whatsoever to help Gwen.
Mind you. This is AFTER Miles' escape. After the whole 'shocked Peter' gif. Peter knows Miguel is willing to get violent.
But that line is his only attempt to help.
Even as he watches Gwen be fully restrained and physically forced into the machine. He stands there and watches.
He doesn't try to web her. He doesn't try to stop the machine or talk to Miguel. He stands there in silence. Watching Gwen get sent home to a universe he knows she is homeless in.
And the movie just lets him. Despite the fact he's known Gwen longer than anybody in this room.
Instead, Jess is the only mentor at fault. We're told to blame her.
During this scene we never pan to Peter, standing there literally motionless as Gwen gets dragged away. He's not panicking, or trying to talk Miguel out of it. We're just expected to absolve him of blame.
It's Jess' fault. Jess is her 'failed mentor' - despite the fact that Peter has known Gwen longer, is shown to have a better relationship with her, and we're given no reason as to why he wasn't her mentor to begin with.
Jess says this, and we're supposed to judge her for it. While Peter said nothing at all. At most he made a joke and then shut up when he was told.
Jess might've believed she couldn't help Gwen - but what was Peter's excuse? Standing there and watching this happen? He doesn't feel the need to do anything, say anything, or even leave the room.
For him, watching this is fine. And Gwen NEVER confronts him about it.
We're not supposed to blame Peter for letting Miles and Gwen down, repeatedly.
Even when Gwen is being physically forced into homelessness in front of him.
We're told to blame the black woman when the white man who has known Gwen longer literally stands beside Jess motionless.
Had Hobie not left Gwen the watch - We're left to assume that Peter would've just... let her be homeless in her dimension.
He watched her get sent home, said nothing, then went home to his wife and kid to ponder whether or not he was a bad mentor.
Not if Gwen was okay. Or whether he should go check on her????
That's NOT OKAY???!!!! THAT'S TERRIBLE!!!!!!! And this is the man we're supposed to be routing for? This, the dude who shows NO signs he was even gonna go and check on Gwen? The dude who lets child abuse go down in front of him TWICE and he just stands there blinking? That's our Peter Parker?
And I'm supposed to be thrilled to have him on the team??? Despite the fact Gwen had to come TO HIM. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND???? Gwen doesn't see a problem with that?????
I'm supposed to be happy he's here? Forreal???
Oh joy. Thank you so much, Humbling Reality Spider-man. We love you.
I hate Peter B. ALL MY HOBIES HATE PETER B. (Not a typo)
#no proofread lol#Peter B watching child abuse be like 'đ§đ»ââïž'#fuck peter b.#ALL MY HOBIES HATE PETER B#Peter parker#atsv#across the spiderverse#across the spider verse#spiderverse#gwen stacy#Miles Morales#spiderman#spider man#spider gwen#ghost spider#spidergwen#miguel ohara#miguel o'hara#jessica drew#jess drew#spiderman 2099
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