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[frog-cultist]

If you like any of these terrible old men you’ll like the one next to them

[blackcrystalbride]

The Black Crystal Bride [68-69]

oh boys I sure do hope this isn't an EVIL wedding invitation And with that, the forty-one nights have officially begun.

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[lolirockenjoyer]

Okay seeing him so scared makes me feel bad

And the way he instinctively covered himself with his hands when Gramorr shouted and clenched his fist

I've noticed Gramorr had much less patience and more outbursts of anger towards Mephisto than towards Praxina. Praxina always seemed to take her brother's place in speaking to Gramorr, correcting and explaining his every word. Maybe she wants more attention from Gramorr or she was trying to protect Mephisto from him. Or both.

[blueflyingturtleontheway]

@savvyzelda for Morgaine and Gramorr from Lolirock

Gramorr stopped by the corner of the bookshelf and hesitated for a moment. Was that... crying? He scowled. He didn't have the time to deal with some "poor, heartbroken soul" right now, he had to find his book before anyone else recognizes it belongs to him... Then again, something about this crying made his gut tighten.

He sighed, and finally walked out of the aisle.

"Morgaine...?" He asked, barely believing his eyes.

But there she was - his best friend, absolutely broken down, sobbing on the library floor.

"Morgaine! What happened? Did someone hurt you?!" He fell to the floor and reached to push her hair from her face. He could feel his blood rush in his vains. When he gets his hands on whoever hurt her... "Morgaine, who did this to you? Just tell me and I'll take care of it..." His voice trailed off when his gaze fell on the book she was clutching in her arms.

He knew this book. It was his book. His book of dark spells.

"Please, tell me why." Morgaine finally looked up at him. Her eyes were red and her teeth clenched and when he met her gaze, it was as if a sharp claw clenched on his heart. But it wasn't pain that showed on his face.

He immediately drew back and turned away. He felt himself scowl.

"I should've seen it coming," his voice sounded so sharp, it made Morgaine flinch. "Of course you'd side with them."

Morgaine stared at him.

"What side? What- Gramorr what are you even talking about?! Please just-" her voice broke. "Just tell me what's going on? What's wrong? You know I won't tell anyone, we can just get rid of this thing and no one..."

"No!" Gramorr practically roared and ripped the book out of her hands, with a strength he wouldn't even suspect himself of.

Morgaine fell back and for a moment they both stared at each other with wide eyes.

Gramorr hugged the book closer to himself and his brows fell over his eyes in a look of resentment. He found his book and didn't even think of coming with it to him. First she evades him for months and now she tries to play the good friend again and treat him as some kind of traitor? He was right, she wouldn't understand.

The pang in his chest once again disappeared under his anger.

"That's right, you won't tell anyone," his voice was quiet, but it was overflowing with hatred. "You will just forget that you ever saw this book. We'll just go our separate ways and you'll leave me alone."

"Gramorr..." Morgaine started, but he cut her off.

"I don't want to even see you again! Just disappear like you do best - I'm sure the king and queen need you more than I do." He took a deep breath and his face once again fell into an unfeeling mask.

"Goodbye, Morgaine." He turned around and walked away.

"Gramorr... Gramorr!" She was yelling after him.

He pushed the book closer to his chest, and slammed the door behind himself to cut off her voice.

Oh Gramorr is going Through It™ I hope I managed to convey that he's being corrupted by some evil influence that makes him misinterpret every slightly unpleasant thing that happens to him as a direct and intentional attack (the amount of headcanons I had to put here. What even is canon of this show anymore.)

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed it!

Prompt lists

[sozzledjuja]

Mephisto & Praxina - A Relationship Analysis

Because part of me wishes that the twins' dynamic had been more explored in the show, while Mephisto was still "alive".

There are honestly so many scenes, especially in season 2, where you could feel the main underlying issues between them, but they were never actually adressed or explored.

Also, feel free to add your own thoughts, maybe stuff that I missed, or things you disagree with as well.

Let's start with this scene, from Cute As A Doll, which I'm surprised not more people are talking about:

So, Praxina gets hurt by Auriana's blast, and Mephisto immediately stops his chase for Iris to teleport next to his sister, to make sure she's alright.

Aaaaanddd- she yells at him for caring/worrying, telling him to just go after Iris.

LOOK AT HIS FACE BRO. Homeboy was truly worried, but then immediately gets back in the game.

It's easy to just look at the dismissive and "careless" way in which Praxina treats Mephisto most of the time, and rule her off as "heartless". However, this sentiment seems to also be present when HE tries to "connect" or worries about her.

We see this again in Forget You:

She sees attachments and emotions as a sign of weakness and vulnerability, and clearly doesn't allow herself to feel it and lashes out whenever her brother does.

This refusal to accept love and affection is usually born out of an inherent lack of trust in people. It comes from a place of fear. She seems to prefer to remain impartial and formal as much as possible, regardless of how much her brother (or anyone else, for the matter) wishes to get close to her.

When it comes to other people, I believe she simply doesn't trust that the gestures of affection are real/genuine.

Good!Praxina, in Forget You I believe, was less of a "possibly redeemed" Praxina and more of a "blank page" Praxina, as in, what she would've been like had none of the Gramorr or the other bad stuff happened.

Still, let's not forget that Good!Praxina still clearly had some concerning instincts, so some of her less pleasant characteristics like her destructive behavior, lack of empathy, difficulty accepting affection and praise, and connecting with people, were probably already there since the beggining.

Iris said it herself:

Remember, Good!Praxina still didn't like the idea of helping people when the girls first tried to teach her how to be a good person; Only AFTER being exposed to good influences did she actually begin to redirect her energy torwards "good" goals, and I think this proves that, in a different, more positive enviromnent, she would've definetly turned out differently.

But, alas- she didn't, so here I am, writing this big ass psychological assessment. Which is mostly her fault.

Also Mephisto clearly has some issues of his own when it comes to how his sister treats him (which, let's be honest, while I wouldn't call it abusive, she definetly isn't an easy person to care about).

Also the fact that she seems to think he's incapable of doing anything right definetly bothers him more than he lets on.

It's easy to laugh these moments off but there's definetly something much deeper going on.

Again

And again

And again. and this one was fucked up

And in many other times.

Oh- and the fact that she always blames him for everything. Which is another one of Praxina's biggest flaws: an inability to admit fault or take any sort of accountibility. Aaand shifting the blame.

Which he knows, and this is clearly something that he takes and takes, until he snaps.

This moment in If You Can't Beat Them was also really telling on how he actually feels about how his sister never actually shows any appreciation for his contributions, and seems to think he's weaker and less capable of reason as she is.

I genuinely do not know what goes through Praxina's brain to make her do this. I don't know wether she actually genuinely believes he's stupid and fucks everything up or not.

And Gramorr, although he doesn't outright show much preference for Praxina in spite of Mephisto, seems to share the sentiment, given that he appears to be slightly less patient/harsher towards him than his sister.

What I can say is that Praxina definetly believes that he is the weakest link between them (which might seem like it's true at first glance, but I wouldn't be so sure as to state it), which, given the previous statement, might also be a result of Gramorr himself thinking/saying it, since they've probably been training under his wing for quite a long time, which would make her (and Mephisto) easily influenced by his opinion, as an authority figure.

And he might pretend it doesn't effect him, but we all know that deep down it does, and that he's kinda insecure despite all his bravado.

I think Mephisto's always been more sensitive and more "emotionally-inclined" than his sister, even before Gramorr. I believe that both twins have the potential to be good, but Mephisto is definetly more "hardwired" for it than Praxina.

And we already know what she thinks about that: emotion=weakness.

And part of her wants to keep reminding him she's better too. The girl's got a big ego to stroke.

Mephisto also seems to have more morals than his sister.

We can see that throughout the show he's helped the princesses sometimes: Iris, with whom he teamed up with to save his sister in If You Can't Beat Them, in which he even told her he'd be honored to serve her as queen of Ephidea, had circunstances been different, which I truly believe he meant;

And Carissa, in Statue Game, who he ALSO teamed up with to save his sister, and who, let's not forget, he gave the other evil amulet back to, so that the princesses could reverse the spell that turned that human girl into stone.

And when Gramorr got the last gem, Mephisto seemed to actually be horrified by what was happenning.

He clearly wasn't totally fine with enslaving the entire planet.

Praxina, on the other hand, seemed pretty okay with it.

Ecstatic even.

She's relishing in what's happening, that's what she wants. To bend other to her will, to be feared rather than loved, to have power over others.

Maybe not what she needs, but what she WANTS.

Mephisto realizing that is GOLD from a storytelling prespective.

I feel like he looked at her in hopes she'd be as concerned as he was, that they were on the same page about the situation, only to find her- well, laughing. I joked about this being his "oh shit, these people are actually evil" moment, but I think part of him was only surprised with Praxina. Maybe he hadn't realized just how far this "lifestyle" had actually shaped his sister.

We know for sure that Mephisto has higher levels of empathy than Praxina. And common sense. This is why I always disagree when people say that Praxina is smarter than Mephisto. She might be more "logical" and "rational", but neither of those things equate to cleverness. Mephisto seems to be more astute and more intuitive.

Him starting to realize Gramorr was probably not gonna give them shit is a great example of this.

Which Praxina did NOT even think about. She was on a high, thinking about all the power they were gonna have now that Gramorr was free and back in action. Miss girl, you are delusional.

Honestly Praxina's fatal flaws deserve their own separate post.

Because let's be clear: I'm trying to debunk all of the twin's relationship issues, and everytime, it's clear who's actually responsible for everything going badly in the emotional realm.

I love her but she IS the problem. Not saying Mephisto is a poor innocent baby who never did anything wrong his whole life (I'm looking at you, lolirock fandom). He definetly has a lot of flaws and bad traits himself, but he's not the one to blame for anything regarding his and his sister's relationship.

To conclude,

THIS is normal sibling behaviour.

All the rest I showed above this SHOULD. NOT. BE.

This is not me saying they have a bad relationship, but I am saying that they don't have a fantastic one either.

Also, I blame dark magic too. The Team has confirmed it makes them more irritable, so there's that too.

They really care about each other, and I don't doubt that BOTH of them would do anything to keep the other safe. But they got lots of unspoken stuff to talk about.

And are both in desperate need of therapy

[lolirocksstar]

my first post and first time drawing Gramorr ! I got a new sketchbook on Christmas and was rewatching lolirock, so I drew him for fun :3

[marise-eternal]

Dark! 'Father' Gramorr x Young Princess! Reader

Young Princess! Reader: *in her tower/bedroom* Dark! 'Father' Gramorr: My dear daughter, what are you doing? Young Princess! Reader: *Making a blanket fort* Making a blanket fort! Dark! 'Father' Gramorr: Allright? Young Princess! Reader: You wanna join? Papa? Dark! 'Father' Gramorr: *Joins in with making a blanket fort* One hour later Mephisto and Praxina walks in to see Young Princess! Reader and Dark! 'Father' Gramorr having a tea party in the blanket fort

[diamondcz27]

They are similar right? 👀

[iamelflink]

At first, I loled

Then I serioused.

Yes I will in fact start drawing more in digital now that I have a pen for my phone. No more finger.

[frog-cultist]

Hello to like the 5 remaining belos and gramorr fans, please, take this small offering you poor starving beings

[blackcrystalbride]

The Black Crystal Bride [66-67]

Gramorr invites you to a Canterlot Wedding!

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[gedascrown5768]

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[sozzledjuja]

Give me corrupted Praxina in S3 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

I mean, we saw Gramorr's (sorry) state without his mask, like- DANG

And I don't know about you guys but I LOVE the phyiscally corrupted character trope-

Prax gotta join the club

[arrowheadedbitch]

I don't think it needs to be said that Gramorr seems to be the only person to look after the twins, for a decent amount of their lives, it might be more accurate to call him a father figure than to call him a boss at this point, and it definitely shouldn't need to he said that if he's a parental figure he's a BAD one and abusive, and even if he's not a parental figure as all three of them would probably tell you if asked, he's definitely at the very least an abusive boss. What I'm getting at is no matter what he is, he definitely counts as ABUSIVE

All of this is to say, have you seen the way Gramorr appears behind them? No matter where they are, he can see them really easily. Hear everything they say, see everything they do, no matter what they're doing or where they are and it often jumpscares then no matter how many times he does it. He just...appears behind them and scares the crap out of them.

What I'm getting at is, imagine how that must feel? Your abuser can appear you no matter where you go, there's always a chance that he's appeared behind you and is listening to your every word and you just haven't realised yet, there is no escaping him EVER

Even if they wanted to run away, get out of there, get away from Gramorr, they can't because he can find them anywhere they go with magic and they've seen it. If they wanted out? Well, there's no use running, Gramorr would just find them and their punishment would probably be fierce

Can you even really fault them for working for him? What were they, 5 or 6 when he took over Ephedia, and they can't get away from him no matter what? I know they do some bad things and that they come up with a lot of their plans on their own, but I don't even care if they seem to enjoy some of the evil stuff they do, they will never be bad guys in my eyes.

Mephisto and Praxina, you will always be in the right to me, please stay safe you poor kids

[marise-eternal]

DARK! ‘FATHER’ GRAMORR X PRINCESS! READER

Gramorr first met you when you were four years old

Gramorr came to your kingdom to take all of your family’s land and kingdom

But before he could take you under his wing the king and queen your father and mother sent you to Earth to be safe

So when Mephisto and Praxina say that the princesses; Iris, Talia and Auriana had a new little princess by your name, to the twins confusion Gramorr told them to take you to from Earth and bring you to him

And that’s what the twins did: they kidnapped you and brought you to Gramorr, “Ah princess Y/n, It’s been so long. How long has it been again? Five years? No, it's been ten years!” Gramorr said in an awfully cheery tone, “Gramorr.” you said in a cold voice although you couldn’t see his face you could tell he was hurt by your cold tone of voice. “Now, now, what's with the cold voice? Are you still upset because I killed your mother and father?” Gramorr said to you, “Yes! You took my family’s land and kingdom!” You said in an angry voice, you were getting mad and madder as the time went by, but the anger and rage will be gone, your dear old father Gramorr will make sure of it.

[lovinglapislazuli]

This is how I imagine it went when Gramorr got trapped in the throneroom! I love this audio a lot for how funny it is, so a while ago I made this animatic :D

The original video seems to be lost so here's the animation that inspired me to make this: