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lolirockenjoyer · 3 months
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Okay seeing him so scared makes me feel bad
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And the way he instinctively covered himself with his hands when Gramorr shouted and clenched his fist
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I've noticed Gramorr had much less patience and more outbursts of anger towards Mephisto than towards Praxina. Praxina always seemed to take her brother's place in speaking to Gramorr, correcting and explaining his every word. Maybe she wants more attention from Gramorr or she was trying to protect Mephisto from him. Or both.
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blackcrystalbride · 3 months
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The Black Crystal Bride [61-63]
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@savvyzelda for Morgaine and Gramorr from Lolirock
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Gramorr stopped by the corner of the bookshelf and hesitated for a moment. Was that... crying? He scowled. He didn't have the time to deal with some "poor, heartbroken soul" right now, he had to find his book before anyone else recognizes it belongs to him... Then again, something about this crying made his gut tighten.
He sighed, and finally walked out of the aisle.
"Morgaine...?" He asked, barely believing his eyes.
But there she was - his best friend, absolutely broken down, sobbing on the library floor.
"Morgaine! What happened? Did someone hurt you?!" He fell to the floor and reached to push her hair from her face. He could feel his blood rush in his vains. When he gets his hands on whoever hurt her... "Morgaine, who did this to you? Just tell me and I'll take care of it..." His voice trailed off when his gaze fell on the book she was clutching in her arms.
He knew this book. It was his book. His book of dark spells.
"Please, tell me why." Morgaine finally looked up at him. Her eyes were red and her teeth clenched and when he met her gaze, it was as if a sharp claw clenched on his heart. But it wasn't pain that showed on his face.
He immediately drew back and turned away. He felt himself scowl.
"I should've seen it coming," his voice sounded so sharp, it made Morgaine flinch. "Of course you'd side with them."
Morgaine stared at him.
"What side? What- Gramorr what are you even talking about?! Please just-" her voice broke. "Just tell me what's going on? What's wrong? You know I won't tell anyone, we can just get rid of this thing and no one..."
"No!" Gramorr practically roared and ripped the book out of her hands, with a strength he wouldn't even suspect himself of.
Morgaine fell back and for a moment they both stared at each other with wide eyes.
Gramorr hugged the book closer to himself and his brows fell over his eyes in a look of resentment. He found his book and didn't even think of coming with it to him. First she evades him for months and now she tries to play the good friend again and treat him as some kind of traitor? He was right, she wouldn't understand.
The pang in his chest once again disappeared under his anger.
"That's right, you won't tell anyone," his voice was quiet, but it was overflowing with hatred. "You will just forget that you ever saw this book. We'll just go our separate ways and you'll leave me alone."
"Gramorr..." Morgaine started, but he cut her off.
"I don't want to even see you again! Just disappear like you do best - I'm sure the king and queen need you more than I do." He took a deep breath and his face once again fell into an unfeeling mask.
"Goodbye, Morgaine." He turned around and walked away.
"Gramorr... Gramorr!" She was yelling after him.
He pushed the book closer to his chest, and slammed the door behind himself to cut off her voice.
Oh Gramorr is going Through It™ I hope I managed to convey that he's being corrupted by some evil influence that makes him misinterpret every slightly unpleasant thing that happens to him as a direct and intentional attack (the amount of headcanons I had to put here. What even is canon of this show anymore.)
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed it!
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sozzledjuja · 2 months
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Mephisto & Praxina - A Relationship Analysis
Because part of me wishes that the twins' dynamic had been more explored in the show, while Mephisto was still "alive".
There are honestly so many scenes, especially in season 2, where you could feel the main underlying issues between them, but they were never actually adressed or explored.
Also, feel free to add your own thoughts, maybe stuff that I missed, or things you disagree with as well.
Let's start with this scene, from Cute As A Doll, which I'm surprised not more people are talking about:
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So, Praxina gets hurt by Auriana's blast, and Mephisto immediately stops his chase for Iris to teleport next to his sister, to make sure she's alright.
Aaaaanddd- she yells at him for caring/worrying, telling him to just go after Iris.
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LOOK AT HIS FACE BRO. Homeboy was truly worried, but then immediately gets back in the game.
It's easy to just look at the dismissive and "careless" way in which Praxina treats Mephisto most of the time, and rule her off as "heartless". However, this sentiment seems to also be present when HE tries to "connect" or worries about her.
We see this again in Forget You:
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She sees attachments and emotions as a sign of weakness and vulnerability, and clearly doesn't allow herself to feel it and lashes out whenever her brother does.
This refusal to accept love and affection is usually born out of an inherent lack of trust in people. It comes from a place of fear. She seems to prefer to remain impartial and formal as much as possible, regardless of how much her brother (or anyone else, for the matter) wishes to get close to her.
When it comes to other people, I believe she simply doesn't trust that the gestures of affection are real/genuine.
Good!Praxina, in Forget You I believe, was less of a "possibly redeemed" Praxina and more of a "blank page" Praxina, as in, what she would've been like had none of the Gramorr or the other bad stuff happened.
Still, let's not forget that Good!Praxina still clearly had some concerning instincts, so some of her less pleasant characteristics like her destructive behavior, lack of empathy, difficulty accepting affection and praise, and connecting with people, were probably already there since the beggining.
Iris said it herself:
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Remember, Good!Praxina still didn't like the idea of helping people when the girls first tried to teach her how to be a good person; Only AFTER being exposed to good influences did she actually begin to redirect her energy torwards "good" goals, and I think this proves that, in a different, more positive enviromnent, she would've definetly turned out differently.
But, alas- she didn't, so here I am, writing this big ass psychological assessment. Which is mostly her fault.
Also Mephisto clearly has some issues of his own when it comes to how his sister treats him (which, let's be honest, while I wouldn't call it abusive, she definetly isn't an easy person to care about).
Also the fact that she seems to think he's incapable of doing anything right definetly bothers him more than he lets on.
It's easy to laugh these moments off but there's definetly something much deeper going on.
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Again
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And again
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And again. and this one was fucked up
And in many other times.
Oh- and the fact that she always blames him for everything. Which is another one of Praxina's biggest flaws: an inability to admit fault or take any sort of accountibility. Aaand shifting the blame.
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Which he knows, and this is clearly something that he takes and takes, until he snaps.
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This moment in If You Can't Beat Them was also really telling on how he actually feels about how his sister never actually shows any appreciation for his contributions, and seems to think he's weaker and less capable of reason as she is.
I genuinely do not know what goes through Praxina's brain to make her do this. I don't know wether she actually genuinely believes he's stupid and fucks everything up or not.
And Gramorr, although he doesn't outright show much preference for Praxina in spite of Mephisto, seems to share the sentiment, given that he appears to be slightly less patient/harsher towards him than his sister.
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What I can say is that Praxina definetly believes that he is the weakest link between them (which might seem like it's true at first glance, but I wouldn't be so sure as to state it), which, given the previous statement, might also be a result of Gramorr himself thinking/saying it, since they've probably been training under his wing for quite a long time, which would make her (and Mephisto) easily influenced by his opinion, as an authority figure.
And he might pretend it doesn't effect him, but we all know that deep down it does, and that he's kinda insecure despite all his bravado.
I think Mephisto's always been more sensitive and more "emotionally-inclined" than his sister, even before Gramorr. I believe that both twins have the potential to be good, but Mephisto is definetly more "hardwired" for it than Praxina.
And we already know what she thinks about that: emotion=weakness.
And part of her wants to keep reminding him she's better too. The girl's got a big ego to stroke.
Mephisto also seems to have more morals than his sister.
We can see that throughout the show he's helped the princesses sometimes: Iris, with whom he teamed up with to save his sister in If You Can't Beat Them, in which he even told her he'd be honored to serve her as queen of Ephidea, had circunstances been different, which I truly believe he meant;
And Carissa, in Statue Game, who he ALSO teamed up with to save his sister, and who, let's not forget, he gave the other evil amulet back to, so that the princesses could reverse the spell that turned that human girl into stone.
And when Gramorr got the last gem, Mephisto seemed to actually be horrified by what was happenning.
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He clearly wasn't totally fine with enslaving the entire planet.
Praxina, on the other hand, seemed pretty okay with it.
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Ecstatic even.
She's relishing in what's happening, that's what she wants. To bend other to her will, to be feared rather than loved, to have power over others.
Maybe not what she needs, but what she WANTS.
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Mephisto realizing that is GOLD from a storytelling prespective.
I feel like he looked at her in hopes she'd be as concerned as he was, that they were on the same page about the situation, only to find her- well, laughing. I joked about this being his "oh shit, these people are actually evil" moment, but I think part of him was only surprised with Praxina. Maybe he hadn't realized just how far this "lifestyle" had actually shaped his sister.
We know for sure that Mephisto has higher levels of empathy than Praxina. And common sense. This is why I always disagree when people say that Praxina is smarter than Mephisto. She might be more "logical" and "rational", but neither of those things equate to cleverness. Mephisto seems to be more astute and more intuitive.
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Him starting to realize Gramorr was probably not gonna give them shit is a great example of this.
Which Praxina did NOT even think about. She was on a high, thinking about all the power they were gonna have now that Gramorr was free and back in action. Miss girl, you are delusional.
Honestly Praxina's fatal flaws deserve their own separate post.
Because let's be clear: I'm trying to debunk all of the twin's relationship issues, and everytime, it's clear who's actually responsible for everything going badly in the emotional realm.
I love her but she IS the problem. Not saying Mephisto is a poor innocent baby who never did anything wrong his whole life (I'm looking at you, lolirock fandom). He definetly has a lot of flaws and bad traits himself, but he's not the one to blame for anything regarding his and his sister's relationship.
To conclude,
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THIS is normal sibling behaviour.
All the rest I showed above this SHOULD. NOT. BE.
This is not me saying they have a bad relationship, but I am saying that they don't have a fantastic one either.
Also, I blame dark magic too. The Team has confirmed it makes them more irritable, so there's that too.
They really care about each other, and I don't doubt that BOTH of them would do anything to keep the other safe. But they got lots of unspoken stuff to talk about.
And are both in desperate need of therapy
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holymilky · 4 months
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Soooo first things first
I have exams and till now I've had little time for art unfortunately...
And I've been playing Limbus Company , so this is an au I've had in my mind since damn february.
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Colouring is NOT my forte! For Iris the demon possessed me and for Talia i was in utter pain colouring
Now, to do some explaining because i must be the only person at the intersection of PMverse and Lolirock
Fixers are mercenaries for hire except for when they're not and either work in groups or alone
the biggest groups are called associations and there are like 12 of em each w/ their own speciality
Shi Association specializes in assasionation
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Zwei Assoc. specialises in protection , they're bodyguards w/ a twist in that the way they offer protection is discreet, they disguise themselves as civilians n either walk around or sit at a distance and intervene when necessary
That's why i chose the twins n Gramorr for Zwei lol
For this au Grams is not evil just a grumpy old man who's also a smoke war vet (n that's where he lost his arm n screwed his face so that's why he keeps the mask)
As for the drawing, colouring is pain and zwei uniform is annoying so i gave up halfway through 😔
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story here is that the twins r assigned to protect this guy n Iris's job is to assassinate said guy
really scuffed but i just wanted to get these ideas out of me so i can study without being pestered by the voices in my head
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Lev is ofc their annoying coworker
(in the last one he kinda looks like Light Yagami but I can't be bothered 😭)
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And last but not least here's Nathaniel
Seven specializes in espionage but a chunk of their employees also run a café part-time
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And some vanilla stuff cause i don't have where else to shove it
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lovinglapislazuli · 1 month
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This is how I imagine it went when Gramorr got trapped in the throneroom! I love this audio a lot for how funny it is, so a while ago I made this animatic :D
The original video seems to be lost so here's the animation that inspired me to make this:
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bluewings55 · 10 months
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Lolirock
So I recently watched the entirety of Lolirock
And it was... Okayish
The story itself wasn't bad, but a lot of it feels very incomplete.
So let's break down a few points:
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Story:
The story itself wasn't too bad. I liked a lot of the ideas. But since this is directed to a younger audience, a lot of story plot was very predictable sadly enough.
And it didn't bother me that much that Iris was in the centerstage most of the time. Unlike later season Bloom, the creators didn't make things that aren't related to Iris about Iris. There were a few moments yes, but I never thought "wait, why is it about Iris, it's not about her!" Unlike (sadly) with Bloom in Winx where she gets the Spotlight for no reason
Princesses:
I do really like the transformation and animations for the princesses. Although I do feel odd about Lyna and Carrisa having different animations and songs. They look good, but since they don't have a similar transformation like Iris, Thalia and Auriana, I feel like it just says that they aren't part of the group. Which is kinda true since they are absent for 75% of the time in season 2. (Fr, where are these two the entire time?)
And I get Iris is the main character and all, but the creators make Talia and Auriana look so useless and weak for most of the time. And then Talia is able to beat their asses on her own, yet struggled to do so five minutes before.
Also Talia is the best, defo my fave from all of them.
Like her transformation? Goregous
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Also:
dark princess's
Omg, I love their design, I need more of them
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Magic and Ephidia:
Similar to the story: it felt incomplete. Like things aren't being explained:
What's Ephidia? Is it a continent, is it the capital city? Who created it, what's so special about it?
What are the oracle gems exactly? Are they amplifiers or a key, WHAT ARE THEY? and why do they only show up in front of Iris? Is it cus she's the crown princess or why? Who knows: things aren't getting explained.
And how does the magic work? Is it just crystals? Can they use elemental powers as well? We see them use levitation and time spells as well soooooooooo?
And what about Dark magic? Do you have to be born from it, is it an emotion you redirect, how does if work?
And can we talk about Iris's different transformations? They look epic af but.... How? Can only she do it? What exactly is it? Like a different stage or is it a temporary a power up? Can other princesses do them as well or not?
And what exactly is Amaru? A dog, a pegasus? A shapeshifter animal? How does his magic work? Why can he summon a giant battlefield out of nowhere?
And what about the other magic kingdoms? We only saw a tiny bit of Xeris, but what about the others?
I wish they not only explained a little more about the magic, but also showed us more about the magical world. By doing that, it feels more alive, more
Villains:
Alright imma say it:
Gramorr is the most useless fucker there is
He's being portraited as this all mighty powerful wizard but then he just sits in the throne room doing God knows what, maybe looking at tarot cards with Banes who knows....
He doesn't do anything, just screams when an oracle gem gets to the crown, and yells at Praxina and Mephisto bc they are so 'useless'
Like dude.
If they are so terrible at their job and you are "oh so powerful":
DO IT YOURSELF?!?!
Also, stop blaming everything on the twins cus of your laziness!
Speaking of blaming
Praxina is the worst.
Her newest design is amazing tho.
She looks more threatening then Gramorr ever could
And the butterflies? Amazing, I'm really excited about how she's gonna act in season 3
But if there's a problem she immediately blames it on her brother, but as soon as there's something she can be proud of, she steals the credit, like, bitch stop being so toxic.
And stop blaming Mephisto for everything???
He's the one literally working with the enemy to save your ass TWICE and even almost died a few times (or just.. died after what happened) and what does he get? Not even a thank you. Girl, your bro almost died, wdym? You're siblings, he supports and helps you multiple times yet here you are scoffing, rolling your eyes and blaming him for every inconvenience happening in your life.
Don't give me the "that's how twins act" or "that's cus she's evil" bullcrap cus I got siblings myself, I know what it's like.
So yeah, I'm here in the Mephisto support group.
I also decided to adopt him.
He doesn't know that yet tho.
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I'm personally not a fan of the comedian character, but I just feel really bad for him with all the crap he's going through: A shit boss and a shit sister.
Respect to him that Gramorr stab them in their backs AND THE TWINS WENT BACK TO THEIR BOSS TO SERVE HIM EVEN THO GRAMORR REPLACED THEM.
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Also he's so sweet? If u can look past all the evil things he did, you realize that he's really sweet and not that evil and he really cares for his sister (even tho she's a bitch).
And the time he and Iris worked together and said that he would be honored to serve her if he was on her side?
Listen, if he's not on Team Lolirock and just dead in season 3 imma be so pissed.
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xielianslver · 3 months
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If Praxina at the end of season 3 doesn't get a redemption arc and become part of the group (+ a backstory for her and Mephisto) I'm going to fight someone.
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ghost-missy · 3 months
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Dark! 'Father' Gramorr x Young Princess! Reader
Young Princess! Reader: *in her tower/bedroom* Dark! 'Father' Gramorr: My dear daughter, what are you doing? Young Princess! Reader: *Making a blanket fort* Making a blanket fort! Dark! 'Father' Gramorr: Allright? Young Princess! Reader: You wanna join? Papa? Dark! 'Father' Gramorr: *Joins in with making a blanket fort* One hour later Mephisto and Praxina walks in to see Young Princess! Reader and Dark! 'Father' Gramorr having a tea party in the blanket fort
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iamelflink · 2 months
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hey chat,,, i give yall the evil gang ovr here 😔‼️‼️
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blackcrystalbride · 3 months
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Apologies that this isn't an update, but it is still related to a future update >:)
What color palette for this concept outfit for gramorr in Black Crystal Bride is your favorite? I think I already have one, but I would like to know your thoughts!
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lolirockconfessions · 5 months
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"Its so funny and great how willing the twins are to overthrow graymorw when they get a chance"
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sozzledjuja · 2 months
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Give me corrupted Praxina in S3 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
I mean, we saw Gramorr's (sorry) state without his mask, like- DANG
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And I don't know about you guys but I LOVE the phyiscally corrupted character trope-
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Prax gotta join the club
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holymilky · 10 days
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ok so
been not daijobu the entire summer and the fact that i animate once in a blue moon resulted in 1 m and 7 s being too much for me
its been one month and a half since i started this and i thought its about time i accept the L and just post these 30 seconds i have
the audio is from the famous shadow the hedgehog fandub by SnapCube on yt
i feel like i approached this wrong, maybe some other time i'll complete it...
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anisandwalker · 1 month
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Gramorr's theme but it's from an epic dark fantasy game
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Morgaine & Gramorr
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