#goop monster belos

[cantpickafandomtbh]

wait okay so apparently belos simps exist

what?

i mean no offence if u do simp for him but like-

he’s 400+ years old and turns into goop without warning and he tried to kill thousands, if not millions of people all at once and you’re simping for him of all people in that show?

still that’s not the point. the point is HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS BEFORE??

[kaadaart]

Into the fiery pit that is the Wittebane fandom you go-

**throws fanart at you**

Idk I just think he is neat

[amoritasart]

Ok I don’t know how to explain this but I think Philip might have initially carved the glyph symbols on his skin as a form of punishment?? Puritans had like, severe punishments , and they were very creative with their methods too. Whipping, public humiliation, branding… These people hanged real people for witchcraft .. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think Philip internalized these things as a kid and he grew up thinking if people do bad things they deserve to be hurt. Because like, I think of how he didn’t need to physically harm himself to do magic, he also didn’t have to literally cut off his ears (he wears a mask all the time anyway, has long hair, and concealment stones exist? ).

Like I’ve seen people say that he didn’t think it through and was kinda stupid (could very well be the case, or just impulsive), but knowing him I feel like suffering was the point? You want to learn and do magic like a witch, you will suffer like one too sort of thing. He didn’t spare Caleb for being in love with one. I don’t think he’d spare himself for becoming one.

[onedeadkitty]

Delicious. Another!

[traggalicious]

Side view and both together! Yayyyy

[wingedarrows]

I find it REALLY funny how the show with the puritan witch hunter as its antagonist has its finale on holy saturday

[clawedthorns]

i’m so on the fence about palisman-related things regarding hunter.. on one hand i don’t want him to get a new one right away (maybe after a timeskip) but i also don’t want him to suddenly acquire normal magic after absorbing flapjack? if he were to have any abilities i think harpy mode would be awesome but do palisman souls function similarly to literal wild animals? eda’s owl beast was like.. an actual beast. not carved from a tree. does the same logic apply here… i do not know

[tds-rb]

my eyes copletely skimmed over this im very sorry 💀

one on one, no help allowed (unless we count an extra person for belos to possess. NO TITANS, only just like. a normal fucking guy. maybe a grimwalker.) undyne gets her spears since they're her magic, belos gets his goop and nothing else, this is like after the sigil and before the boop. who wins in a battle to the death?

[demilypyro]

have your opinions on Belos changed?

I mean he's still just some guy who's got this hate boner for witches for some reason. But also he turned into a big goop monster which I guess was fun?

Eh, not all villains need to have depth.

People kept acting like there was some big twist that makes him super extra horrible and scary but that kinda didn't happen. I mean he cloned and killed his brother a lot I guess? Was that it? Idk, pretty standard villain fare, didn't make him much scarier to me.

[sepublic]

People still ask how Belos died from being stomped on when he survived something similar in King’s Tide. People, Belos was still healthy enough to defeat the Hexsquad even when he was being drained of magic; He hasn’t retained any physical damage from the fight until the Collector steps in.

In S3 Belos is dying just from existing and needs a host, he’s still breaking down even when inside the host because he emerges from Raine in a worse state than when he entered;

(At the very least, Raine whistling Belos out of their body whittled down his form even further.)

It’s almost as if the crew emphasized in For the Future what a terrible state Belos was in, with him saying aloud he needs a host, to set up why he can’t survive the same injury he did last time. It’s like these details were here for a reason. Belos hasn’t had a Palisman in two months (something the show emphasizes he needs) and both the Day of Unity and Vee also drained his magic, the former doing it for a decent while uninterrupted no less. He did rebuild himself, but then Belos began to fall apart from starvation; He tried to address it by absorbing Flapjack —the show’s way of reminding you what’s missing�� but Hunter stopped him and contributed to Belos’ death.

(So not only did Hunter assert his agency, he helped kill his uncle without having the additional trauma of directly doing/seeing it, and it led to Flapjack’s life force being left to save Hunter; So Hunter got Belos killed, saved himself, and stood up for himself!)

And after failing to absorb Flapjack, after leaving Hunter, does Belos try to fight Hexsquad despite not having to worry about a draining spell killing him, and having already won the first time with it? No, he runs away; Because despite initially looking the same, he’s much weaker and can’t win a fight in his state. And that leads to the next episode’s reveal that he’s dying and crumbling apart even after regenerating, or rather because he used up his energy to regenerate.

Even if Belos survived being stomped on, he’d just be a puddle of goop but be unable to build himself back up as he continued breaking down. There was nothing around and even if Belos possessed something, he’d still keep degrading the whole time until he dies truly, and at that rate the host might just wait for Belos to perish without needing someone to save them. Belos is dead, he knew he was dead.

People also ask how Belos can turn back into Philip at the end and not only is it a literally paper-thin facade and the curse is there underneath. But they forgot he already did the same thing in King’s Tide by turning his face back around Hunter (but not his whole body, he’s being killed by his draining spell at that moment); But it falls apart fast, esp when angry. Only Palisman essence can fully turn Belos back into a human.

And we see the curse was overtaking him even in that state, and when Belos hides the mold on his face it re-emerges when he’s angry. He’s always had this ability, but it’s superficial and doesn’t last long. Belos can’t even truly hide the mold on his face when he’s human, he couldn’t tangibly turn back into a human when he was fully transformed, and he’s never going to, he can only create a facade. Maybe Belos could’ve briefly turned young, but he always defaults back to his ‘natural’ state, which at first was an old human but over time has become the curse beast.

Finally, why didn’t Belos possess the Titan from the start? I don’t think he even knew he could do that until he had to figure it out during the two-month gap. He didn’t even turn into a monster yet when he decided on the draining spell with the Collector, his eyes just went blue as we see in the memories with Caleb, or his flesh writhed.

Belos always reverted his curse form with Palismen because he loathed and didn’t want to experiment with it. But after S2 his body began to break down, Belos had no other options, so that’s how he figured it out, and then applied that realization to the Titan’s heart in his castle after the Collector reminded him of it.

[sporesgalaxy]

teehee. erm. so i was looking at this image from the promo ^_^

and i was like gee. whats with the eyes? what creepy plants! Are they in a drained lake or soemthing?

and there's more eyes in the bg. a lot more. and they look like Belos' monster form eyes. and it kind of. it kind of almost looks like.

like the goop is . um. crawling to cover the trees.

uh oh sisters! looks like the Belos Possessing The Titan Corpse Theorists were onto something!

[cantpickafandomtbh]

the fact that Belos had the nerve to say “we’re human, we’re better then this” while he was goop and melting just makes me laugh at random points during the day

[autumnspumpkinsandtea]

TOH SPOILERS!!!

Okay, but that one scene, when Belos is trying to manipulate Luz one last time and he is in his human form, and then it starts raining and he melts revealing his monster form, because even if he is pretending to act like it was not his fault and he IS a human - he is just a miserable goop monster inside.

I love this show.

[volvolts]

Since belos is juat goop, can he not shapeshift his form? Like he did with kid belos and his original look?

(im assuming you mean in my au?) unlike canon, belos can go into a human form! when he's breaking into houses it's easier to be a goop monster to slip in and out of houses and intimidate if need be which is why he's like that in the beginning. but when he's alone or "safe" he'll default into looking more human

i've said this in an old ask but since belos has merged with the palisman beast, his curse is more stable and so he can remain human looking without too much trouble. he just can't fully get rid of his antlers

also as for shapeshifting into kid belos and OG!Philip? i dont remember him actually being able to do that except for in his mindscape and as a last ditch survival attempt against Luz. idk tbh his powers are all over the place in the 3rd season so im just kinda picking and choosing what would help my story lol

[witchkingfromthe1600s]

Plwease consider Belos having his “oh fuck I’m the bad guy” moment and IMMEDIATELY THE GG ghosts/hallucinations start dunking on him

It's funny you say this cause he does in fact have a break down after finally having it click in his brain. And you know what happens when old man Phil experiences intense emotions!

BIG GOOP MONSTER COMES OUT

Goes a bit crazy, a bit cooky, the rage goes over into sorrow and my dude just kinda passes out due to exhaustion after his temper tantrum.

And then he dreams, but this time it's a LOT more worse than usual.

So yea , you're pretty spot on with that idea lol

[penny-anna]

Belos’s daemon is a hunting dog. Unassuming and normal and fits with both the fact that he Settled in a Puritan witch hunting cult and who he winds up becoming. The real question is whether she’s still around in the modern day as she was then since belos has very clearly fucked up whatever you may conceive of a soul as.

good concept!!

my HC for Belos's present day daemon is that she's still around but permanently stuck in her equivalent of his Goop Monster form and he keeps her out of sight for that reason