#good omens production pause

[inezrable]

Hey, ineffables. Whatever happens, remember they're in love

[firephoenix2305]

so like is there any reason you want to be so loud about how you obviously care more about your own feelings and desire for season three than doing right by any of the victims or???

I knew this or a similar ask was bound to wind up in my inbox, and I also knew that when it did I would respond in the most polite way possible.

I understand there are a lot of different positions and views and opinions of this whole affair, and of course I respect each and every one of them. There are people who would rather not have Season 3 made because of the accusations against Neil Gaiman, and I completely understand that.

That said, I do want to make clear that I have not at any point said or meant to imply that I do not care about the victims. I will never, never, as long as I'm alive put a single word in support of someone who has committed an atrocity like sexual abuse.

To be completely honest, all I want is to know how the story ends and to be able to experience that with this whole wonderful fandom. I don't understand why that has to mean that, at the same time, we can't have justice for those four women.

I genuinely don't think those two things are contradictory.

Okay, yes, I will admit I might have come off as a little selfish with my recent posts about the subject and my feelings towards it; but those were never in any way about Gaiman.

Because of course he has to face the consequences of these accusations. Of course he's the one in the wrong here. Of course I don't want him to direct or produce this. Of course I'd love it if there was some way he didn't get an economical gain out of Season 3.

But I care about the characters, about our ineffable idiots, about the story; and about that ending that was lovingly crafted so long ago by Terry Pratchett- may he rest in peace.

And about the fandom, which has given me so, so much. That's what those posts were about.

Not about Gaiman.

In my mind, art and artist are two separate things.

So, really, the summary is this: Why can't it be Season 3 and justice for those four women at the same time?

Why can't I want season 3 and support those poor victims at the same time?

Honestly, I only made those posts because I was worried my favorite show might get canceled.

[sixshotsinatumbllr]

Self Care Checkpoint

Has everyone taken a nap since the production pause news came out? Because I just did, and my body really appreciated the chance to rest.

[nimbusalba]

Pay attention people:

NG has offered to step back from Good Omens S3 so it can resume production.

Those would be the best news we could hope for. The unnamable author would be out and the show could go on.

In my opinion, to produce S3 with NG after the accusations against him, would have stained the show. And the cast and crew would have been in a horrible position, having to work side by side with that person under the circumstances.

If this is confirmed we should be able to sleep at night again.

[e-rated-beardo]

Good morning, and welcome to another upset in the fandom. 😥

I've been seeing some very distressed and anxious posts from GO fans today and I've been online for less than an hour. I worry whether people are okay. (Some aren't. I know that. Shit.) ❤️❤️

I don't know how productions work and there's lots of great discussion with more insight elsewhere; in general people seem to agree it's too early to worry and the wording of that article is actually cause for hope. But if you worry, you worry. One sentence from me isn't going to change that.

Um. I don't know how to do this. And I realise maybe all of five people are even going to see this post? But. If you think it could help you to shout into a stranger's DMs (about this, or about something else fannish, or idk, social issues? French phonetics? Maths? We all know I like maths), perhaps I could help? I might not be online all day (I won't be), but I'll read when I am, and I do get notifications. I'm not a mental health hotline but I'm a person who's got intimate knowledge of what it feels like to feel like shit. And maybe that's enough?

[lickthecowhappy]

Joy Suspended

GOetry club prompt Form: Elegy

Weekly GOetry Prompt Repository | Main Poetry List

You found me when I needed you the most Spoke gently to me with your words of hope Alighting joy within my darkened ghost You gave my wretched soul a way to cope

Then came the day you went where I could not I wished to follow you until the end I would have given everything I’ve got The price too high for any soul to spend

And now I face a future without you Just holding on to life despite the crack I face each day with heart torn nigh in two I’ve no idea if you’re coming back

Weekly GOetry Prompt Repository | Main Poetry List @isiaiowin

This poem is also available on AO3.

[that-doe-main]

I was planning on being Beezlebub for Halloween. I even wore the costume before for conventions..

Now I don't know if its even ethical right now. 😔

[weirdly-specific-but-ok]

for whom good omens is being written

Hey maggots and the rest of the fandom, it's the Good Omens Mascot here. Today I read a post about this tweet:

The accompanying video genuinely made me cry. And I've been thinking about this for a long while, as far back as February, when I saw a lot of conflicting opinions on what people wanted from the third season. It really is true that no matter what you do, some people will be dissatisfied. But what matters is that Neil is writing this for Terry.

And I was reminded of some paragraphs from the Good Omens TV Companion, which I'd read in Amazon's sample excerpt of the book. I know this is a long post, but I really truly do think you all need to read these, I've done my best to select only the most important parts. Here you go:

'His Alzheimer's started progressing harder and faster than either of us had expected,' says Neil, referring to a period in which Terry recognized that despite everything he could no longer write. 'We had been friends for over thirty years, and during that time he had never asked me for anything. Then, out of the blue, I received an email from him with a special request. It read: “Listen, I know how busy you are. I know you don't have time to do this, but I want you to write the script for Good Omens. You are the only human being on this planet who has the passion, love and understanding for the old girl that I do. You have to do this for me so that I can see it." And I thought, “OK, if you put it like that then I'll do it."

'I had adapted my own work in the past, writing scripts for Death: The High Cost of Living and Sandman, but not a lot else was seen. I'd also written two episodes of Doctor Who, and so I felt like I knew what I was doing. Usually, having written something once I'd rather start something new, but having a very sick co-author saying I had to do this?' Neil spreads his hands as if the answer is clear to see. 'I had to step up to the plate.' A pause, then: 'All this took place in autumn 2014, around the time that the BBC radio adaptation of Good Omens was happening,' he continues, referring to the production scripted and co-directed by Dirk Maggs and starring Peter Serafinowicz and Mark Heap. ‘Terry had talked me into writing the TV adaptation, and I thought OK, I have a few years. Only I didn't have a few years,' he says. 'Terry was unconscious by December and dead by March.'

He pauses again. 'His passing took all of us by surprise,' Neil remembers. 'About a week later, I started writing, and it was very sad. The moments Terry felt closest to me were the moments I would get stuck during the writing process. In the old days, when we wrote the novel, I would send him what I'd done or phone him up. And he would say, "Aahh, the problem, Grasshopper, is in the way you phrase the question," and I would reply, "Just tell me what to do!" which somehow always started a conversation. 'In writing the script, there were times I'd really want to talk to Terry, and also places where I'd figure something out and do something really clever, and I would want to share it with him. So, instead, I would text Terry's former personal assistant, Rob Wilkins, now his representative on Earth. It was the nearest thing I had.'

(...) As Neil himself recognizes, this is an adaptation built upon the confidence that comes from three decades of writing for page and screen. But for all the wisdom of experience, he found that above all one factor guided him throughout the process. 'Terry isn't here, which leaves me as the guardian of the soul of the story,' he explains. 'It's funny because sometimes I found myself defending Terry's bits harder or more passionately than I would defend my own bits. Take Agnes Nutter,' he says, referring to what has become a key scene in the adaptation in which the seventeenth-century author of the book of prophecies foretelling the coming of the Antichrist is burned at the stake. ‘It was a huge, complicated and incredibly expensive shoot, with bonfires built and primed to explode as well as huge crowds in costume. It had to feel just like an English village in the 1640s, and of course everyone asked if there was a cheap way of doing it. 'One suggestion was that we could tell the story using old-fashioned woodcuts and have the narrator take us through what happened, but I just thought, “No”. Because I had brought aspects of the story like Crowley and the baby swap along to the mix, and Terry created Agnes Nutter. So, if I had cut out Agnes then I wouldn't be doing right by the person who gave me this job. Terry would've rolled over in his grave.'

And, finally, this paragraph:

"Once again, Neil cites the absence of his co-writer as his drive to ensure that Good Omens translated to the screen and remained true to the original vision. 'Terry's last request to me was to make this something he would be proud of. And so that has been my job.'"

I think that's so heartwrenchingly beautiful, and so I wanted you all to read this, too, just in case you (like me) don't have the Good Omens TV Companion. It adds another layer of depth and emotion to this already complex and amazing story that we all know and love.

Share this post, if you can, please, so that more people can read these excerpts :")

Tagging @neil-gaiman, @fuckyeahgoodomens and @orpiknight, even if you've definitely read these before :)

[vidavalor]

Good Omens people... this is a good thing. 😊

Pause: Not a cancelation. Which they easily could have done instead. Pauses are good things. It means they want the new season and see the value in making it, rather than in just canceling it, but they are smart enough to know that what they don't want is the disgusting creep attached to it and all the baggage that comes with that.

Neither, probably, do any of its lead actors.

Neither, of course, do we.

There are ways to get rid of him and we can tell that is likely what Amazon is working on making happen, based on the article also mentioning...

"Production changes": This is a way of saying that a producer's ass is getting fired. There's exactly one person whose ass could be getting fired in this situation.

It's speculative but I think a pause for some "production changes" might indicate that they're working on getting rid of him and buying some time to make that happen. It could take some time for Amazon to extract him from the process of S3, which would explain the pause.

If they didn't think they could do it-- or if they didn't see the value in trying-- they would have just canceled S3 outright, which they have not done. They also went out of their way to emphasize the "production changes" part of it so that's a good sign.

This is the best possible news right now.

[e-rated-beardo]

OMFG are you kidding me it's fucking happening!??

(link)

[fuckyeahgoodomens]

Neil Gaiman is understood to have offered to step back from the third and final season of Amazon Prime Video‘s fantasy drama Good Omens.

Deadline revealed on Monday that pre-production had paused on the BBC Studios-produced show in the wake of allegations made by four women against Gaiman, which he denies. This came after Disney’s planned feature adaptation of Gaiman’s 2008 YA title The Graveyard Book��was also put on pause.

Now, we understand that Gaiman has made an offer to Amazon and producers to take a back seat on the latest season so that it can continue amid crisis talks over the Terry Pratchett adaptation’s future.

Amazon is understood to be considering Gaiman’s offer and no final decisions have been made. Good Omens S3 is currently in the early stages of pre-production. Gaiman has previously said the show, which is made in Scotland, will shoot from January 2025. Amazon declined comment.

[inezrable]

*Pokes amazon with a stick*

Come on, resume good omens 3 production...

[firephoenix2305]

There. I had to. I feel better now. Phew.

I'm now going to be able to sleep tonight. And I will now proceed to shut up about all this because I don't want to be a pain in the ass either.

But I'm scared.

More than about it being cancelled (which also), about the fandom falling apart because of it. I dunno, my stomach just drops at the thought, so...

Anyways, yeah, shutting up!

<3

[somehow-a-human]

you know in retrospect i hate that i posted this lol…

if anything just let me read the script n we’ll be good. surely there is a good samaritan who’ll leak it if it goes under

Insane that they cancelled Dead Boy Detectives. This is why I expect I will never watch Our Flag Means Death, and why I will treasure the fact that Good Omens is getting its final season. It's such treacherous territory to fall in love with new media just for it to be cancelled for a little tax break.

[smudgeandfrank]

Good Omens S3 has been officially put on a production pause.

To all of my Good Omens darlings out there, take a breath and feel the comforting hug I'm sending your way. 💖🫂💖 Everything will be alright. 💖🫂💖 Production pauses happen, and this one, I think, is perfectly reasonable.

After everything that has come out about Gaiman, it would be a blatant disregard of moral standing to keep him on the project. As he is the present show runner, removing him is a big upset to the show's production structure. It will take time to make the proper adjustments if that's the issue at hand. (I'm pretty positive that this must be the cause.)

So, don't panic, my darlings! 💖🫂💖 Give this time to breathe, and trust that the right choices for GO and its cast/crew will be made behind the scenes. I love you all dearly! 💖🫂💖

[paperclipninja]

I've seen a few posts about production of Good Omens being paused (reported in Deadline here) and people seem mostly pragmatic about it but I've also seen some worry/concern floating about and figured that as someone who has seen many different scenarios unfold in fandom over the years, I'd add a couple of points:

- the article is vague and literally states "Deadline is hearing there are discussions about possible production changes". That's like me saying, "I'm hearing there are conversations about this thing happening". There is zero confirmation of anything at this stage.

- production changes can mean many things, though I think we all know one change that seems most likely/necessary under current circumstances. But the key words here is changes. Changes implies the intention to continue, but with a few tweaks.

- a pause is just that. A moment to take pause, think about how to proceed, make changes. It's not the "C" word.

- this story is a co-creation. I imagine there are a lot of ppl committed to ensuring Terry Pratchett's story is finished.

- the show is profitable and popular, so Amazon want to make it (cynical? Maybe. I think probably realistic though).

I guess the point of this post is to say: this news doesn't mean a whole lot until we get some clarity or confirmation. But it's also not dire.

So hang in there fam, keep creating and sharing art and fics and insights and general brilliance 💛 It's all we can really do for now.