#gibeon

[azuremoonns]

WE WERE RIGHT OOMF

Why I do think Crave could be Amethio's father (because I love him and I need him to be included in the plot ok? Don't judge).

Yeah I already made a post about this topic but I'll make another one because why not?

All right first of all, Crave appears on the same episode (ep 54) Amethio is revealed to be Gibeon's grandson and on the same episode where the boy mentions his father for the first time.

Crave was also shown wearing a wedding ring, it's a very brief moment but you can see it, which is a curious detail to give a character.

Not to mention Friede already knows Crave which would be a similar situation to him knowing Liko's mom, Dot's mom and Roy's grandfather.

Now let's move to physical similarities between Crave, Amethio and Gibeon:

We can immediately notice that the hair colour is the same, even the eyebrows and the expression are very similar (Crave has the same frowning expression of Amethio).

The eyelids are also very similar.

Now Gibeon:

I think Crave resembles Amethio more than Gibeon but you can still see similarities between them: the eyebrows and the shape of their faces.

One thing Crave doesn't have in common with the other two are the eyes (colour and shape) but I don't think this necessarily means anything.

They could have chosen to make them different so that it isn't too obvious that Crave is related to Amethio and Gibeon or it just isn't important to give him the same eyes since the eyes resemblance was mostly a thing to anger Terapagos and give us a hint on Amethio and Gibeon's true relationship.

Another interesting thing is the hair:

Crave has those two locks combed behind the ears indicating he has long hair which is also slicked back.

Imagine him with loose hair, you can easily picture it being kinda long and similar to Amethio's and Gibeon's.

See my vision?

They all have the same locks lol.

Also Amethio's hair colours seems like a fusion between Gibeon's and Crave's (I don't think we have ever seen anyone in Horizons with that exact hair colour other than Crave and Amethio anyway).

Those are my thoughts! Thank you for reading and feel free to add more similarities if I forgot anything!

[trelinha9]

So... Are we talking about this?

[aurelicar]

Explorers member comfort Amethio, ig?

[bubbledcoffee]

My hand slipped and I drew kitty pokemon horizons stuff

[l00rem]

something something the way amethio faces gibeon in his first bit in the op but then is walking towards friede (as he also walks forward) in the next shot…

[ritinja-draws]

I wonder what is happening in Amethios heart right now.

In his core he doesn’t want to do harm, he tends to do right things, has a moral compass.

And it was his desicion to start conversation with Liko, he choosed the right words to say to Liko (what shows also his own believes), he cooperates with her, helped her to get out of the cave (my boy is such a gentleman), warned her About Spinel once more.

He is a good person

Who wants to do right things

How bad should it feel, being punished for him doing good and right things. His own Grandfather, someone who is clearly for now the only family member Amethio can “rely on”, is disappointed in him.

Poor boy

poor poor teenager, who just wants to be loved and be “enough” to DESERVE recognition, but instead got sabotaged and kicked out to his lowest

Can’t wait for his mental breakdown

RVT, please, adopt him

[buoy-base]

Getting banished by your (grand)father isn't helping you beat the Zuko allegations, Amethio...

[arjengelly]

Ok hear me out lol

I just find them a bit similar

[the-spam-specialist]

Gibeon: Amethio, you must seize Terapagos and Rayquaza and fulfill your duty as heir of my blood.

*sees a video of Amethio being a decent person*

Gibeon: On second thought, fuck you

[ballonleaparadise]

Family, Blood Ties and Redemption in Pokemon Horizons

I really felt for Amethio in episode 65. Spinel will do anything to get rid of him, huh? I can definitely see Amethio joining forces with the rvts in the future, either as a member or as an ally.

I want to call this a 'redemption arc' but I don't even know if that's the correct wording. Amethio is not being redeemed because he was never bad to begin with. He is a kid who has been manipulated by his own grandfather. I think this really showed during his conversation with Liko, where he said that his goal is to simply fulfil Gibeon's wishes. In addition to this, Amethio has shown numerous times to care for other's safety, regardless of whether they side with him or not (ie. When he saved Liko from Rayquaza's attacks in episode 45, and when he subsequently teamed up with Friede.) In other words, Amethio is a good person who has been taught to do bad things.

In this sense, Pokemon Horizons highlights both the importance of family and the dangers of blood ties and manipulation. The rvts are a family who care for and trust each other. Meanwhile, the Explorers are built from selfishness, deception and greed. Amethio does what Gibeon demands because he is his grandfather. When someone close to you treats you badly, it can completely bypass you because you care about them and their behaviour becomes normalised. Amethio seems to have been raised with the Explorers, so it's no wonder why he has been so loyal to them. As a result, Gibeon has been able to use Amethio for his personal gain. It reminds me of N's dynamic with Ghetsis in Pokemon Black and White.

Out of context, I found it funny how the plot of this episode was Liko and Amethio trying to get out of a cave. Whether that was a reference to Plato's analogy of the cave or coincidence, who knows. Either way, Amethio has seen the light (literally). He has seen Gibeon's true colours, Spinel's real intentions, and gained insight from Liko.

If Amethio does switch sides, I don't think this will be immediate. As he said to Liko, he is on a different path to her. Even though he is banished from the Explorers, he has still been loyal to Gibeon for so long. It makes me wonder what really happened to his Dad- did he willingly leave the Explorers or did he 'disappoint' them in the same way that Amethio did? For now, Amethio needs to decide whether he's prepared to join the other side, even if it means completely betraying his grandfather.

[jadeazora]

Our promo info/screenshots for tomorrow! I wonder, with them highlighting Gibeon, if we'll get a better sighting of him. 👀

[ecargmura]

Amethio and Gibeon's family tree

Now that Gibeon being the board chair of Exceed is revealed, I do wonder about Crave, the director.

He has black hair and that Amethio has half of his hair black, I just can't help but wonder if Crave is Amethio's father and if he is, is he related to Gibeon or is he an in-law?

On top of that, Amethio said that Gibeon is his grandfather, but is he just a grandfather or is he a great-great grandfather like how Liko is to Lucius?

[yasii3]

Why does young Gibeon and Amethio look so similar… I’m gonna cry…

[smilingperformer]

IF Crave is Amethio's father, then he has to be an in-law relative to Gibeon, because Crave doesn't look like Gibeon at all. Not like Amethio does. So, I wonder if HZ075 will give us more answers relating to Gibeon's lineage. Because the RVT folks have a point, Gibeon is way too old to be just a grandpa of Amethio. Either he is great-great-grandpa like Lucius is to Liko, or something else is going on.

But I highly suspect that Lucius as well is alive in Rakua, probably also partly pink now lol. As it would seem Rakurium can cause eternal life, if we are to believe Gibeon to be the same Gibeon Lucius knew.

[l00rem]

same energy

[trelinha9]

I loved today's episode. I loved it, loved it, loved it!!!!!

Spoilers below the line, as always, and let's go to all the incredible points of this incredible episode in this incredible anime with incredible characters!

Spoilers below the cut!

1 - The episode begins where we left off, with Liko and Ametio trapped together in the cave. This opening scene is short but important. Terapagos is yelling at Amethio, and Liko tries to calm him down without success. Ametio takes a deep breath, steps forward and tells Terapagos that he wouldn't do anything, to trust him. I like how Amethio kind of prepares himself to say this sentence, as if he doesn't know how to handle the situation

2 - Terapagos apparently realizes that Amethio IS NOT Gibeon, despite probably looking a lot like a younger Gibeon. The small sparkling legendary turtle is clearly confused, but he simply turns his back and heads back to Liko. At that moment, Amethio sighs, he is relieved to have solved that problem

3 - The cutest scene of the entire episode: Ceruledge watching Floragato collect grass to help Liko stay warm, and he decides to use his blades to warm Amethio too! It's like, the cutest thing in the world. I love these two so much. I need more fics with these two. Ceruledge cares so much about Amethio, it's so beautiful

4 - Liko asks Ceruledge to burn the grass to make a fire, and Amethio agrees. The two sit together and do something that no one thought Pokémon writers would be able to do: THEY TALK!!!! Like, they ask each other questions, and they answer those questions, and they both end up understanding each other better in the end. Here are the notes, because it was my favorite moment of the episode by far:

5 - One thing I really liked is that Amethio is the one who starts the conversation. He asks why Liko was ready to give up when he terastalized Ceruledge, and Liko explains that she failed the terastal application test. Liko says she thought she would be more useful if she had passed. Amethio then asks if she's going to give up (HE ASKS IF SHE'S GOING TO GIVE UP OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS EPISODE SO MUCH). His words (in the Brazilian dub) are "Are you going to give up just because you tripped once and you think you won't be able to help?" Amethio clearly identified with what Liko said here: he lost to Friede, he lost to Rayquaza twice, he lost to Hamber, and in the last episode he lost to Spinel's Umbreom. He had to recover from all these losses if he wanted to continue to be useful to the Explorers. Faced with Amethio's words, Liko reflects and says that she doesn't want to give up.

6-It's Liko's turn to ask a question, and it's interesting when she says that she always wanted to ask him that: because he saved her in the battle against Rayquaza. Amethio says that he didn't save her, and Liko says "But I was saved. You saved me" (which, coupled with the fact that she thanked him, shows that she is grateful to Amethio for saving her, since she thought on the subject).

7 - Liko says that the Explorers are "bad" people who are after Terapagos and Rayquaza, but she feels that Amethio is different in some way. This is in the episode. I'm not making it up. It's 100% canon. I'm normal. I'm fine.

8 - Liko asks why Amethio needs Terapagos and Rayquaza, and Amethio explains that, to fulfill his grandfather's, Gibeon, dream of finding Rakua, he needs them both. (Note, Amethio explicitly says that he wants to make his grandfather's dream come true. This is the first time we hear him say that he wants something, in this case, to make someone else's dream come true).

9 - Mini note: the moment Ceruledge kneels next to Amethio when he says "I want to make my grandfather's dream come true" is so... Sweet. Interesting. As if Ceruledge is saying "I'm with you on this, you're not alone"

10 - Liko and Amethio continue to bond over the fact that they are both following their grandparents' legacy, and how their path is similar.

11-One of my favorite moments of the episode: Liko says that she was happy to have had that conversation, because before she only thought of him as an enemy. Amethio responds that he only thought of her as "the girl who has Terapagos". This tiny moment is actually huge. It is explicit in the text that Liko and Amethio's view of each other has changed. The two talked, opened up, and ended up understanding each other. Now THAT'S what I call a wholesome bonding scene

12 - My greatest wishes were fulfilled in this episode: Amethio gets up and says "Let's get out of here, Liko". LIKO. LIKO!!! HE CALLS HER BY HER NAME!!!!! I'M SO NORMAL ABOUT THIS.

13 - Amethio and Liko come up with a plan to enlarge a hole in the ceiling of the cave so they can get through safely. Ceruledge and Floragato climb onto Corviknight and use their attacks to open the hole wider. The two work very well together, and Amethio and Liko successfully exit the cave (also, considering the fact that the exit was on the roof of the cave, we can assume that Liko and Amethio rode Corviknight together, which is cute to imagine )

14 - I loved how Amethio reaches out to Liko and helps her get out of the crack they created. He is a gentleman indeed

15 - Amethio warns Liko to be careful with Spinel, because he would definitely try something like that again, which is nice of him. He hates the guy, that's a fact.

16 - Another super interesting conversation was when Liko asks Amethio why the Rising Volt Tacklers and the Explorers don't come together, since they both want the same thing, and Amethio says it's impossible. Amethio says that, even though the goals are the same, the paths are different, and that he will continue in his own way.

17 - The scene where all the admins, especially Spinel, stab Amethio in the back is heavy. Spinel and Agate did a great job of pretending they didn't know anything, and Coral and Sidian, too. To clarify, no, Amethio was not kicked out of the Explorers, at least it is not said in the episode. Gibeon says that he was disappointed in Amethio, that even Amethio was turning against him, and tells Amethio to leave, that he doesn't want to see his face. This one is HEAVY. First, we get some hints about what happened to Amethio's father (he probably betrayed the Explorers), and second, the fact that Gibeon doesn't even give Amethio the benefit of the doubt to explain what happened is horrifying. He's his grandson, you should believe what he says!

18 - The episode ends with Amethio literally shaking. He was betrayed by his colleagues, and neither his mentor nor his grandfather wanted to let him explain himself. Additionally, he has been compared to his father. This boy needs therapy.

Episode 10/10 for sure! I didn't mention the scenes with Roy, Dot, and Friede throughout the episode, because the Ameliko content was the highlight of the episode for me and is more relevant than anything else. I can't wait to see how Liko and Amethio's relationship will develop in the next arc, and what the writers will do with Amethio's character.