#gg 3x22

[autumnrory]

1x21 / 3x22 / 6x06

[nineteenthmay]

Something that bothers me about a lot of Dair stans and is part of the reason why I don't like Dair as much (even though apart from the fandom I realized on rewatch Dan and his ships are more problematic than I thought) is how they co-otp Serena's abuse from Chuck and pretend to care about the issue and her when they generally don't care as much or are ignorant but ignore how emotionally abusive Dan was to her by verbally degrading her, especially later, and will hate on her outside of that and act like the abuser was all her and exaggerate how good he is cause he comes off better than Chuck. They also lie so much about canon that I've had to distance myself to keep brain cells. Like for instance they often claim Serena in 6x4 said Dan enjoyed being part of the sex tape even though she used present tense and was talking about him enjoying writing slanderous articles about close ones:

S: Wow, I can't believe I ever loved someone who could write such awful things about his friends and family.

D: Right, 'cause you were thinking about my feelings when you made that sex tape.

S: You know what? The worst part is you actually seem to be enjoying it.

They also ignore that Dan committed a sex crime by posting a picture of Serena's tits being visible when they were 15 and the few that do acknowledge claim he can't be blamed for it cause it's OOC for his character and "Gossip Girl reveal" was a last minute decision while blaming Serena for the sex tape which can easily be argued as OOC, which I believe to be less in character than Dan. That logic is faulty to me cause Dan slept with a girl that he knew roofied her multiple times while already drunk and tried to have an adult force himself on her and record a sex tape that she tried to blackmail her over. Yeah after Serena found out they had sex at NYU she told Dan she was ok as long as he's happy and keeping her at a distance cause Georgie had issues but he got his dick wet the first time without finding out Serena's feelings. And he was a serial cheater so cheating again was unsurprising. But because he committed a sex crime with the picture I'd say whatever sex he had with Serena before she found out about GG was dubious consent as argued for the sex tape case but I've never seen anyone call out fuckboy Dan for the questionable consent. Also Dan was said to kiss her while giving her wine in 3x22 despite the emotional state she was in because of being in a low place with her dad and family, Nate, Jenny, etc and the fact that he knew in addition to her mental health she had a history of substance abuse and poor decision making or getting taken advantage of by adults under those circumstances that she often agonized over and I feel it's worth mentioning that Serena was the first and also more in expressing guilt over what happened that Dan was quick to take personal offense and even while guilty and depressed she tried to reassure him. I don't understand how Dair fans can claim Chuck/Jenny was noncon because of her emotional state when Chuck was in a similar state (it'd be more credible if that wasn't the case) but ignore that Dan was mentally stable unlike Serena when he kissed her and immediately flirted when she showed regret. They also lie that Serena made him drink even though I doublechecked the ep and she never asked or told or handed him a drink; he was already shown drinking cause it was a party. What Serena did was bad, but unlike him who posted her picture for the world she had the decency to delete the video although Georgina unfortunately stole her phone and found it in her recently deleted and was shamed before and after the tape was released and she apologized to Blair the tape and admitted she "acted really badly" out of insecurity. She should've apologized to Dan too but then again he didn't apologize to anyone for the picture and romanticized it as getting power to move up and had the moral high ground the whole time and said Serena manipulated him as if he didn't manipulate her and he barely called out Georgina after she released the tape but tormented Serena and acted like she was the biggest attention whore. Found it weird how Dan was happy he was getting female attention from the tape while Serena wasn't happy about being hypersexualized over his GG post. I like Serena better cause she didn't act like she was morally superior to him while hiding her skeletons to him. Dan is a terrible boyfriend, terrible brother, and terrible writer and I don't like Chuck either, but I hate how fans shame others for who they like and act like Dan is a better person than he actually is.

I assume that this the same message split in two parts, so I put it together. :)

What can I say? I think those dair fans you discuss here have some alternative series going in their head, they don't understand what they watch, they don't understand the characters and they only care about their own fantasies that have little to do with the actual series. It's useless to argue with these folks and I can only recommend to ignore them and enjoy what you like.

Obviously I like Chuck better than Dan for many reasons. One reason is that Chuck had more character development than any other character and his character demonstrated uplifting trajectory. I think it's often forgotten that Gossip Girl is a coming of age story, when we first meet the main characters they are teenagers and by the end of the story they are adults in their early twenties. By the rules of the genre, they are supposed to have issues, to make mistakes, to learn along the way, to grow up, to mature, to fix their issues. And Chuck did just that. He owned his wrongs and mistakes, admitted them, learned from them, felt remorse, worked on his issues, and that all helped him to make his life better, to grow up, to become more stronger, mentally more stable and to not repeat his wrongdoings. If we compare Chuck in Season 1 and Chuck in Season 6, we can see the difference and how much he has matured, like we don't see him doing anymore desperate and crazy actions he was prone to do earlier under similar circumstances.

With Dan it's opposite. His story, for me, is about moral degradation. Like, Dan, although not without his flaws, in Season 1 is more likable, than older Dan in Season 6 where he throws temper tantrums left and right and blames everybody but himself for his troubles. And don't even get me started with Dan's career as Gossip Girl. I don't accept the argument "the Gossip Girl reveal was random and ooc and we will ignore it", first, because I don't think that making Dan Gossip Girl was a random decision, second, because however poorly it was executed, Dan being Gossip Girl is the series' canon and should be taken into account discussing his character. But even without the Gossip Girl matter (for which, btw, he didn't feel any remorse or regret, but instead congratulated himself smugly in the finale like for a well-done job), Dan had plenty of flaws, wrongdoings and mistakes. But more often than not, and the series nearing its end, he refused to admit them. Like that bit of a dialogue between Serena and Dan regarding the sex tape is actually very characteristic to Dan. Did Serena wrong by filming them having sex? Yes, she did, she shouldn't have done that. Does it make ok Dan writing those articles? No, it doesn't, Dan is doing wrong as well. Furthermore, Serena didn't force him to have sex with her, it was his decision as well. Yet, Dan refuses to take any responsibility for it and admit that he did wrong regardless of what Serena did, and shifts all responsibility to Serena. He has a very similar dialogue with Blair too in 6x05 when the sex tape is revealed, making Blair to realize that he is a total hypocrite and it's better to be alone than with him (btw, it was not the first time Blair calling out Dan's hypocrisy, she did it in Season 2 finale too).

Dan envied Upper Eastsiders for their wealth, privileges, and power and wanted to be a part of their world while considering himself morally superior to them, he was self-righteous, he lacked self-reflection and tended to exploit people around him for his writing purposes without any remorse. I find it hard to sympathize with him in the end.

[blairwld]

Dan and Serena deciding that they should keep their kiss secret smash cut to Gossip Gril sharing a photo of them sleeping in the same bed while "Dead man's party" plays in the background of everyone finding out is an underrated piece of comedy

[viktorrotkiv]

favorite gossip girl looks 9/?: this is all a single outfit and i'm in love

[gossiprelated]

[jessmcriano]

https://literatigifs.tumblr.com/post/180279452892/jess-is-that-you-jess-im-pretty-sure-its-you

“Goodbye brown eyes. Goodbye for now. Goodbye sunshine. Take care of yourself. I have to go. I have to go. I have to go. And leave you alone. But always know. Always know. Always know that I love you so. I love you so, oh. I love you so, oh.”

— Goodbye by Avril Lavigne

[strideofpride]

DAIR APPRECIATION WEEK 2021 DAY ONE: Why do you love Dan and Blair?

I broke down what I love about Dan and Blair into five parts under a read more below. The tldr is: their compatibility, their parallel arcs, their slow burn, the larger message it would've given GG if they were endgame, and finally their mature, adult relationship (aka "pure and simple love").

Warning: I basically wrote a fucking essay lmao. Cited my sources and everything.

I. Compatibility

Dan and Blair have great chemistry sure, but they have something that I don't think any other pairing on the show really had: common interests. They were pseudo-intellectuals who could talk about books, literature, art, etc. with each other ("Dan and I have a real connection. We did things like visit the Dia and debate Charbol versus Rohmer..."). And I know in TV world all anyone cares about is chemistry, but in the real world the key to a long lasting relationship is common interests.

And yet they are also still an opposite attracts pairing, just in the best way, where they are opposite in personality and background, but still share lots of common interests. Blair was the rich mean girl from the Upper East Side and Dan the "poor" loser from Brooklyn, but they still can relate to one another, they can still find stuff to talk about together, they still come to enjoy each other's presence and friendship.

And back to their chemistry: it isn't steamy chemistry 100% all the time (although they can certainly go there). Their's is a sweet chemistry, a chemistry where it's clear that they respect each other, that they know each other on a deep level, that they understand each other more than anyone else. It's a chemistry that you believe could lead to a satisfying marriage one day.

And I know I've said this before, but to me Dan and Blair are just soulmates.

II. Parallel Arcs

I am such a sucker for when two characters' life journeys parallel one another and Dair had that in spades. In season 1 especially, they were both dealing with the abandonment of a parent (Dan's mom/Blair's dad), they both lost their virginities and entered into sexual relationships with much more experienced partners (Serena & Chuck), and they both had their sights set on one school (Yale & Dartmouth - although come season 2 this became Yale for Dan, giving them even more in common).

I've also already talked on here about how you can parallel all of their other romantic/sexual relationships to one another, as well as how they both were abandoned by their best friends sophomore year. And, they both have a bad habit of going back to the same person over and over again (again, Serena & Chuck).

To me, Dan and Blair are almost narrative foils. Dan's relationship with his father starts out pretty solid but deteriorates over time - Blair's relationship with her mother is the exact opposite. Dan pines, while Blair loves to live in denial. Blair sees her life as a movie, Dan sees his life as a novel.

And that makes it all the more satisfying to see them come together, to learn to appreciate their differences, to accept their similarities, to see them grow together (albeit briefly) over seasons 4 and 5.

III. Slow Burn

A lot of people on here use this word incorrectly. If the characters kiss during season 1 (unless it’s under false pretenses) it’s not a slow burn! But Dan and Blair are a true slow burn (whether or not that was intentional).

From that hallway scene in 1x04, it's clear that Dan and Blair have a deeper connection and understanding of each other than they are letting on. We get brief glimpses into that in 1x15, 2x08, 3x18, and 3x22. All of that very slow build up makes it all the more satisfying when they become friends in season 4.

I truly think the W arc is the best written arc of the entire show. You very slowly see them accept their common interests, grow to begrudgingly respect one another, even begin to accept that there might be an attraction there. It never feels rushed, when they kiss in 4x17, it's earned (I use this word a lot - buckle in).

And then, yeah, the Louis arc was fucky (I stand by that they should've kept the love triangle Dan vs. Chuck, or Dan vs. Louis, all three was too much). But Dan standing by Blair through everything she went through that season was beautiful, to see her depend on Dan in her darkest moments, to see her realize that he's the one who will always be there for her...it just really, really worked.

And so that moment when Blair finally calls him "Dan" to his face, when it becomes clear they are finally going to be together...it's one of the single most satisfying moments in the entire show. Because, again, it was earned.

IV. Larger Message

As this video essay posits, the showrunners were left with a choice after the 2008 economic recession: "Either adjust to the times or lean further into an escapist fantasy where extreme wealth is the status quo...and lean they did. For the sake of providing their audience with an escape, the dark underbelly of extreme affluence became the show's core theme. The more it began to sell cynical opulence as standard escapism, the more the writers and fans turned on the less wealthy characters."

Furthermore, by revealing Dan as Gossip Girl, "It transitions him from pretentious soft boy to borderline sociopath, actively ruining the lives of his friends, family, and crush just to get a foothold in Upper East Side society. And then the show did something it had seldom deemed to do for a less wealthy character: it rewarded him...And thus, the show presented us with the most insidious message of all: wealth, privilege, and power corrupt...and that's okay."

By having Chuck & Blair and Dan & Serena as endgame, GG became one of the most cynical shows on the planet, where (to quote Constance Grady) "all relationships are transactional".

But yet: "The sole bright spot in the midst of this cold universe in which relationships are bought and sold like real estate came in the form of Blair’s brief season four romance with Dan...it marked the last hurrah of the first version of Gossip Girl: In a world in which money is so powerful that it makes romantic relationships indistinguishable from prostitution, Dan and Blair were working to create an authentic, meaningful bond outside of the influence of wealth and privilege."

If Dan and Blair had been endgame (and Dan hadn't been GG - although we all know that one is bullshit anyway), it would've been a rebuke to that ideology, it would've shown that there is more to a good marriage than a shared tax bracket, that a genuine connection is more important than wealth and privilege. That abuse does not equal love.

But alas, that was not the story they wanted to tell I guess.

V. Mature, Adult Relationship (aka "Pure & Simple Love")

I am personally not much of a fan of grand romantic gestures. I often find them shallow, childish, and showy. To me, it is far more romantic for Dan to have secretly written a book about Blair, for Blair to submit Dan's article to Vanity Fair, for Dan to say "it wouldn't to me" when Blair asks if it would matter if she was pregnant with another man's child (especially since this moment is (take a shot here), you guessed it, earned - we know he's being honest because we already saw him do this with Milo).

Now, I am personally not as much of a fan of the Met Steps moment as everyone else (Blair's desire to be royalty is probably the thing I like least about her), but that was probably Dan's grandest romantic gesture and yet...it's still so simple. It's really just a plastic tiara and a cab ride. Which is what makes it so beautiful. Because it's not about the money or the extravagance or showing off to anyone else...it's about Dan showing Blair he truly knows her. And to me, that's the healthiest way to do a romantic gesture.

I also love their bad sex arc in 5x18 because a) it's real - most real world couples don't have earth shattering sex the first time together, it takes time to learn what your partner likes and needs and b) because they actually (after getting drunk at Dorota's & Nate's) communicate about it and work out their problem like adults.

Because that's the thing about Dan and Blair - it's a real adult relationship. It's not a never-ending game of cat and mouse, it's not a fallback, it's not a bad habit...everything else just melts away when they're together. They grew and changed together...they learned to put aside their prejudices and see each other beyond their facades. They became better people together. They always had someone they knew they could turn to.

And that's what true love is supposed to be.

[gossipgirls]

oh i totally agree with you on chair and treacherous, it fits them insanely well. i feel like begin again really only works when the couple join the show later (like brulian in oth) so it would be really hard for any gg ship to fit. would you do the same thing with ships/characters for folklore (or any other album lol)?

it's in my s1 chair playlist! the entire second verse is so crazy for them. and begin again is so cute for brulian 🥺

sure, i'll do folklore!

the 1: serenate (i made a gifset of this), but MAJOR rufly vibes too. a bigger dair fan than i would understandably love this song for them, and i do think this feels like how dan would always think about her. "i guess you never know, never know, and if you wanted me, you really should've showed."

cardigan: chair (again, made a gifset), especially imo in light of her s5 arc. but this song mainly screams van der baizen to me, because she knew him, leaving like a father, running like water... ugh. "you put me on and said i was your favourite."

the last great american dynasty: i edited this in response to one of the most galaxy brain requests that anybody on this website has ever gotten––the rhodes women! "free of women with madness, their men and bad habits, and then it was bought by me."

exile: serenate 3x22-s4. it really suits serenate's "right person, wrong time" angst and that dull, anticlimactic, disappointing way in which they ended (which was... pretty on-the-nose for serenate, as far as s3 goes). i also think of danessa with this one, but it would be more them if dan had actually like... seemed to care at all when they broke up. also, rufly? "it took you five whole minutes to pack us up and leave me with it, holding all this love out here in the hall."

my tears ricochet: chair in 3x17... "cursing my name, wishing i stayed, you turned into your worst fears."

mirrorball: this song is so serena it hurts. i also made an edit for this. this makes me soooo l3k2;423ljr2orj2lrl. "i'm still on that trapeze, i'm still trying everything to keep you looking at me."

seven: i think the nostalgia of this is so blair; that feeling that you peaked long ago, that you've been as good as you're ever gonna get. which is so tied up with her relationship with serena in ways i'm too tired to express, but... it's a blairena love song on some level. "i used to scream ferociously any time i wanted."

august: serenate and nobody but serenate ever. there has never been a more accurate, more perfect song for serenate. every word is them. for so long, nate was really just... SO CONTENT TO LIVE FOR THE HOPE OF IT ALL. a year and a half later and it still makes me go UGGGHHHHHHHHHH. i made a gifset for this too. "wanting was enough, for me, it was enough to live for the hope of it all."

this is me trying: this song could be from the perspective of literally any character, honestly. blair (i was so ahead of the curve, the curve became a sphere), chuck (could've followed my fears all the way down), nate (maybe i don't quite know what to say), dan (my words shoot to kill when i'm mad, i have a lot of regrets about that), jenny (i got wasted like all my potential)... but mostly, i always think of serena. and i always think of this as her song to blair. "i didn't know if you'd care if i came back, i have a lot of regrets about that."

illicit affairs: i mean, serena and tripp is the obvious answer, since they're the show's only big, full-fledged affair plot, and the condescension mentioned in the bridge definitely fits. but i don't really wanna give tripp this song that i love so much, so i’m gonna give it to s1-2 rufly! "it's born from just one single glance but it dies and it dies and it dies a million little times."

invisible string: okay, so similar to what the ask here says about begin again, this song only really works with couples that meet later in life, so serenate, despite being the main ship that imo has the truly sweet, easy vibes that this song demands, is out. dair can suit this one nicely. and rufly, maybe. "were there clues i didn't see?"

betty: nate and blair is pretty obvious here (especially with august being serenate), but there was some discussion last summer about this as a 2x01 chair song. my favourite interpretation would be blairena. :') regardless, baby blair is clearly a certified BETTY. "i'm only seventeen, i don't know anything, but i know i miss you."

peace: there's something to be said here for chair's whole "we could never be boring thing" for sure, but that's not really the core of the song. i really see this as a potential serenate song, not really because we actually saw them deal with topics like this (though we did see the roots of this in 3x14), but because i feel like if they'd gotten back together and been endgame, this would have been the most compelling and mature direction in which to take them. nate being so easy and sweet and loyal and serena feeling so... Not That and coming to terms with her self-destructive instincts and the fact that she is way more a hurricane human than she likes to think lol. BLAH, IT JUST WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IS ALL. "your integrity makes me seem small, you paint dreamscapes on the wall, i talk shit with my friends, it's like i'm wasting your honour."

hoax: chair, big time. "don't want no other shade of blue but you, no other sadness in the world would do."

the lakes: this is kind of serena's lifelong dream, finding the right person to run away from it all with. so, van der baizen. "i don't belong and, my beloved, neither do you."

[mrs-nate-humphrey]

Thinking abt how dair quite literally watched each other’s hearts get broken. Once in 1x18 and another in 3x22

1x18? i’m assuming you mean 1x17 because from what i’m finding, the only interaction d&b have in 1x18 is ‘taking down georgina.’ but yeah, 1x17 has this moment & “i didn’t want to have to tell you this, but she doesn’t want to see you.” 

also god, 3x22... blech. i would actually say that dan watched blair’s heart get broken in 3x18 -  3x22 was definitely something, like a moment of blair realising that chuck isn’t who she thought he was, and it’s honestly disgusting that the gg writers made her blame jenny for her own predatory ex’s unacceptable behaviour. idk, not to go here right now, but freedom of mobility is a basic human right, literally granted by the universal declaration of human rights (1948). blair denying jenny access to the city she grew up in is fucked up on SO many levels. 

in a similar line to d&b seeing each other’s heartbreaks, their reaction to natessa in 1x15 is such a good moment. i think what dan felt for vanessa & what blair felt for nate were probably comparable: both of them thought they were ~in love~ by virtue of never have being in any other serious relationship (tho dan wasn’t dating vanessa at the time, but still). so for them to see nate & vanessa, and then to just silently look at each other.......... blair didn’t want to date nate at that point, i don’t think. and dan was happy with serena. but it would’ve still been a moment of feeling like the rug has been pulled out from under their feet. so the way they look at each other and just don’t need to say anything...... that quiet moment of understanding.............. underrated moment. SUCH an underrated moment.

[terrainofheartfelt]

do you think serenate was ruined in 3x22

Oh. No. No I do not.

I mean, I do think, being at where Serena was as a person, choosing to break up with Nate actually showed a lot of maturity and introspection? Like, I cannot be a real partner right now, and the fact that I pushed you away and sought comfort from someone else is a sign that I should be alone for a while. That all made sense to me. It's sad (because it's not lack of love that breaks them up), and particularly heartbreaking after the summer when the show tells us that Serena actually didn't take time for herself. She had a Hot Girl Summer when she needed a Healing Girl Summer, yk?

but to the word choice of "ruined," idk I don't think any character or ship is "ruined" for me, honestly. even if a ship isn't endgame (like any of my gg ships), or a character is retconned into oblivion (evil!dan and evil!serena my beloathed), if I'm still creating content about it, writing about it, it's not ruined for me. but, ruin is subjective I guess.

[austennerdita2533]

I just started rewatching GG again (yes, AGAIN---don't judge me!) and am always eager to torture you with questions: 1. Three ways in which Lorelai and Rory are similar and three ways in which they're very different? 2. Same question, but substitute Luke and Jess for Lorelai and Rory. 3. Your 3-5 favorite, most rewatchable episodes from each of the first four seasons? 4. Your 1-2 least favorite episodes from each of the first four seasons?!

It’s always lovely to revisit Gilmore Girls, no matter how many times we do it! 😁

Lorelai and Rory Similarities:

They both can be rather self-absorbed, entitled, without realizing it. They don’t always take the time to consider how their decisions/actions will affect other people.

They appreciate/depend on the trust and constancy they have between them as well as the sense of community they’ve found among those of Stars Hollow.

They’re hardworking. Ambitious. They push themselves, strive for success.

Lorelai and Rory Differences:

Lorelai is an extrovert whereas Rory is an introvert. They both talk a lot, but the latter’s a lot more reserved in crowded settings. She’s apt to observe surroundings rather than command attention from those around her. Lorelai does far more commanding than perceiving.

While Rory can and does make impulsive decisions throughout the course of the series, she’s much more level-headed and detail oriented compared to her mother. Hence her notorious to-lists. She has a methodological mindset that’s similar to Luke’s, actually.

Lorelai is far more emotionally immature than her daughter. She has a tendency to use humor as well as sarcasm as a defense mechanism to keep people at bay, preventing them from getting too close.

Luke and Jess Similarities:

They’re both emotionally repressed. Neither one of them are particularly expressive about their thoughts, about their feelings, meaning they tend to keep them pressed close to their chest. Their affection and care is demonstrated in quieter, less bombastic ways. (Which is why it’s perfect they read the same self-help book about how to convey their love!)

They both harbor a lot of cynicism. They’re seemingly moody or grumpy in temperament on the surface, but underneath, they’re big ‘ol softies.

Neither one of them is what you’d call a “people person” in that they’re never enthusiastic about crowds or town events or the like. Their circles of trust, their comfort zones and/or people with whom they genuinely want to be around, are small. They keep to themselves more often that not.

Luke and Jess Differences:

Luke has a rigidity about him that I don’t think Jess possesses. He’s systematic in a lot of ways--in thought, in action, in values. He always struck me as a more stringent type of person, you know? Someone who tends to see in black and white, right or wrong, yes or no. Luke likes order. Certainty. Steadiness. More often than not, he operates from a place of practicality, of traditionalism. Jess, on the other hand, who is intellectually introspective in nature, isn’t afraid to cross let alone to push boundaries. There’s an unconventional pulse in him that allows him to think outside the box or pursue career/life paths that aren’t straightforward. That aren’t always “by the book,” so to speak.

I think Luke is largely set, comfortable, in who he is at his core whereas Jess has a lot of personal skeletons to combat before he’s able to get there. Sometimes I see them as Secure vs. Insecure archetypes. That makes sense to me when I consider how Luke is far more likely to stand still, to stay in the same place (Stars Hollow), but Jess is more likely to drift, amble, seek. I believe a lot can be said for the latter’s waywardness/running throughout the series in that regard. 

They’re both meditative, only in different ways. I see Luke thinking through things with an elaborate, laborious, dig-into-all-the-details, point-by-point methodology that keeps him from making any kind of rushed or rash decisions. That can inhibit him at times. Keep him rooted inside his own head. Jess, though he thinks hard and long and quiet himself, has a more extrapolated tangential manner of contemplation that allows him to lean into risk instead of away from it. He’s not afraid to think or act impulsively if/when the occasion calls for it.

**It’s so hard to pick least favorite episodes when the first 4 seasons are my favorite! But I tried to choose the ones I rewatch/have rewatched the least.

Favorite s1 Episodes:

1x01 Pilot

1x05 Rory’s Birthday Parties

1x10 Forgiveness and Stuff

1x12 Double Date

1x16 Star-Crossed Lovers and Other Strangers

Favorite s2 Episodes:

2x07 Like Mother, Like Daughter

2x10 The Bracebridge Dinner

2x13 A-Tisket, A-Tasket

2x16 There’s The Rub

2x19 Teach Me Tonight

Favorite s3 Episodes:

3x07 They Shoot Gilmores, Don’t They?

3x09 A Deep-Fried Korean Thanksgiving

3x13 Dear Emily and Richard

3x17 A Tale of Poes and Fire

3x22 Those Are Strings Pinocchio 

Favorite s4 Episodes:

4x05 The Fundamental Things Apply

4x11 In the Clamor and Clangor

4x13 Nag Hammadi Is Where They Found Them

4x21 Last Week Fights, This Week Tights

4x22 Raincoats and Recipes

Least Favorite s1 Episodes:

1x04 The Deer Hunters 

Least Favorite s2 Episodes:

2x04 The Road Trip to Harvard

2x06 Presenting Lorelai Gilmore

Least Favorite s3 Episodes:

3x05 Eight O’Clock at the Oasis

Least Favorite s4 Episodes:

4x04 The Hobbit, The Sofa, and The Digger Styles

4x15 Scene in a Mall

[autumnrory]

when rory walks away from dean after presenting him with the catalog it really felt like such a final goodbye whyyyy couldn't that have been the end of it

[zalrb]

“We never see who Elenawas before her parents died” this seriously. They make out elena to be this other person and even if the flashback in 3x22 she’s the same. It’s not like she was “old Serena” in gg

Yeah, it’s always bothered me.

[andsmile]

i saw you spoke about this a couple times and i think what bothers me about what they did with serenate in 3x22 is that it seemed like such a cheap way to belittle serena’s feelings for him :( like the kiss doesn’t bother me because that was just one of serena’s coping mechanisms but the whole ‘people don’t kiss because they’re upset’ bs was soo stupid and contrived especially considering chuck literally slept with jenny in the same ep because he was upset 🙄🙄

lol yeah, but that’s bad writing and bad writing was everything that GG was lol luckily for me i’m over all of it 😌 i love serenate forever with or without the dumb writing. 

[xsecretblastsx]

tbh i wouldn’t rlly consider what happened w/ serenate in 3x22 that bad? for gg standards it was probably the least harmful form of ‘cheating’ that happened (on serena’s part anyway), and from the way they described it, it was barely even a proper kiss it sounded more like a peck than anything. for me, the fact she didn’t come clean right away was worse than the actual kiss (i understand that she was just scared) & i think nate more hurt by that & the fact she was pushing him away

Yeah, the worst thing about that kiss was the fact that she tried to hide it because by that point Serena hiding things from Nate was a really big issue in their relationship.

Nate was already bothered by a lot of other stuff and that was just the icing on the cake. But I think if she had been honest since the beginning he would probably be upset but not as hurt

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