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Wyatt: Youā€™re not staying here again tonight-.. in fact, I donā€™t even want you in this country. Kian: Wha-ā€¦ [Kian spluttered over his tea for a moment before regaining his composure and setting it down] Kian: What on earth do you expect me to do? Wyatt: I really donā€™t care-.. whatever you were doing before you arrived? Kian: Well, I spent most of my probation languishing at the penthouse, but it didnā€™t feel right. [Wyatt squinted, perhaps Kian had learned something-..] Kian: You know, like it wouldnā€™t be the same until we got everyone back together-.. eh, almost everyone. Wyatt: [scoffs] Thatā€™s what you want to do? Kian: Donā€™t you? Wyatt: All that time wasting away in prison and you want to jump straight back into the lifestyle that led you there? Kian: We wouldā€™ve been just fine if it werenā€™t for that traitorous redheadā€¦ [Kian trailed off and held Wyattā€™s gaze expectantly, as though it were a given that his brother would agree. Wyatt wondered if Kian had conveniently forgotten his own involvement in the downfall of their father-.. and Ashtonā€™s, not that he really knew about that part, or whether he was too brain dead to have noticed amongst the chaos] Kian: Arenā€™t you tired of playing house out here? Itā€™s all but forgotten, we could go back and-ā€¦ Wyatt: You are not my family. Kian: But weā€™re brothers-.. youā€™re literally the only family Iā€™ve got left. [Wyatt laughed dismissively; he couldā€™ve vomited at the sight of Kianā€™s hurt expression] Wyatt: If youā€™re suddenly so compelled to act like my brother, then leave-.. get as far away from here as possible and donā€™t come back, and donā€™t you dare mention my whereabouts to anyone who bothers asking. Kian: Where do you suppose I ought to go from here then? Wyatt: Really? You finally have complete freedom and youā€™re asking me what to do with your life? Honestly, Iā€™d love to suggest suicide but I doubt youā€™d have the wherewithal, nor the guts. Kian: Thereā€™s no need for that, my god-.. whatā€™s the matter with you? Father would-ā€¦ Wyatt: Father this, father that, heā€™s been dead for over a decade, Kian; get over it or go and fucking join him. [Kian scoffed, shaking his head with such similar derision to their father that Wyatt wanted to choke him senseless] Kian: I shouldā€™ve expected no less than your typical hostility-.. ten years and you havenā€™t changed a bit. Wyatt: That makes two of us. Kian: I suppose Iā€™ll be the bigger man as usual and do as youā€™ve asked, shall I? Wyatt: [tightly] Mhm, do that. Kian: Itā€™s a good job I didnā€™t finish unpacking. Wyatt: Perhaps you arenā€™t completely lacking in forethought after all. [Wyatt clenched his fist around the handle of his mug, fighting the urge to launch it at his brotherā€™s giant, disgusting head-.. he definitely wasnā€™t worth the mess though, and the tea within was nowhere near hot enough to cause satisfactory damage]
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DRDT Chapter 2 Episode 13: First Impressions
Woo! DRDT! It is time! Time for despair! Letā€™s go! My excitement has not faded in the slightest from last week; if anything, itā€™s stronger than before. Here are my first impressions of this weekā€™s episode!!!
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Spoilers for CH2 EP13
CW Suicide, violent murder, mafia mention, suicide, hanging, self-harm.
Itā€™s starting! Leviā€™s got some explaining to do. Will someone (say, Eden) have an interesting reaction?
Alright, Jā€™s not the one I expected to have first reaction, but cool.
ā€œYouā€¦ā€ Is Ace okay?Ā 
ā€œAh. I didnā€™t expect that.ā€ Roseā€™s legendary reaction.
YOU CANNOT ā€œTHATā€™S WACKā€ THIS SITUATION WHIT
Oh, so people know, but the court struck it. Interesting.
Ah, thereā€™s the Ace reaction. Also, ā€œno way Hopeā€™s Peak scouted a murdererā€ but you have a poisoner on another secret and an art forger, at least. Not the same level maybe, but still.Ā 
ā€œDonā€™t make the mistake of switching cause and effect.ā€ Of course Hopeā€™s Peak is responsible, that was my first gut instinct. God, itā€™s so shady in this universe.
Woo, Levi backstory! Three ā€œold enemies?ā€
ā€¦ Bro??? I donā€™t think any of us actually expected more than one murder, but I might be wrong on that. Self-defense, then two first degrees, huh?
ā€œWere you in the mafia or something?ā€ Thanks J.
ā€œI donā€™t think I need to elaborateā€ No, you do. You really should elaborate. Please? For me?
ā€œWho did you even kill?ā€ Andā€¦ Levi!Accomplice is looking rougher by the second. Then again, maybe she didnā€™t know.
Levi tracked two of them down, but doesnā€™t know who they were? How?
ā€œThat car I blew up once?ā€ HUH???
ā€œThatā€™sā€¦ kind of a lot to admit all of the sudden.ā€ True, Rose. Iā€™m trying to see what heā€™s cooking, but I canā€™t tell.
How do you forget this? Jeez.
ā€œHow could you forget?ā€ You know, Arturo, I was kinda irrationally worried Charles was about to throw in his secret phrase, but itā€™s cool that you avoided that. Thanks.
[For the uninformed; itā€™s theorized the characters will, at some point in the series, say the quotes hidden in the source code of their dedicated pages out loud, since Min and Arei both said theirs, and Xanderā€™s could be in a flashback. That means that if a character says their secret quotes, their chances of dying go up drastically.]
ā€œIf you donā€™t care about murder, you could be the murderer.ā€ (Paraphrased) Yes thanks Veronika not the point.Ā 
ā€œAlmost as if you donā€™t careā€¦ā€ Great. I didnā€™t know where Levi was going with this, now I donā€™t know where Veronika is going with her schtick.
Iā€™m surprised Ace is taking it relatively well [as in, not outwardly terrified]. I guess near death does that to someone.
Woo! Time frame! Junior high school!Ā 
Interesting, so he didnā€™t start fashion because of the murder. Thatā€™s kinda what I was thinking, but I was wrong.
Weā€™re getting our first crumbs of Hopeā€™s Peak being ultra shady in main series! After Roseā€™s backstory ig. Unfortunately the ā€œpretentious revolutionariesā€ arenā€™t here to ā€œhand out tickets of leadā€ ā† LGI brainrot
ā€œIt could also refer to the time I murdered my father.ā€
ā€¦Ā 
???????????????????????????
You didnā€™t lead with that?! Also, what?! I laughed out loud at the fucking absurdity of the statement, but what?!
ā€œItā€™s a bit of a bother.ā€ The bothersome part is that theyā€™re phrased vaguely and not that they reveal youā€™re a murderer, got it.
ā€œGo back!ā€ Thank you J.
What do you mean I think. Bro how many people have you killed? What in the name of Kirisaki Shidou [/ref]?
ā€œNot even the police cared about a man like him.ā€ ??? Also, wasnļæ½ļæ½t your dad a bad influence? Youā€™ve mentioned him before, it didnā€™t sound that bad- Wait, is he lying? No way heā€™s lying. Hold on, let me watch more.
[In retrospect, I doubt heā€™s lying, but his story is certainly weird]
ā€œI see no reason to remain hung up-ā€ Then why are you bringing it up. I still canā€™t fucking tell what youā€™re trying to accomplish here.
Edenā€™s reaction isā€¦ neutral, I guess? Makes sense either way?
Eden!Culprit has always been hard to maintain during the trial, huhā€¦ Still took the tape though. And I guess itā€™s potentially interesting sheā€™s getting this much dialogue about Leviā€™s thing. Terukoā€™s yet to speak this episode.
ā€œI wonder if I should really tell the truthā€¦ā€ Bro what do you mean thereā€™s more truth to tell?
Oh, hey, speaking of Teruko. And it seems she and I share a mind.
ā€œI donā€™t care about people at all.ā€ Ooooh, I like this. Some kind of condition?
I feel a little bit like Veronika, interested in hearing his experience with this. Feeling like Veronika is probably a bad thing.
ā€œYouā€™re still a stranger to me.ā€ Leviā€™s quickly climbing the ranks of fave characters, btw. This is super interesting.
ā€œBut youā€™re a good person-ā€ DO NOT ā€œgood personā€ right now, Eden! Thatā€™s a point to Levi!Accomplice, maybe? Maybe not? I donā€™t know whatā€™s happening. And I still donā€™t get what Levi is trying to do here.
Double ā€œgood person?ā€ Bro what is happening.
ā€œI donā€™t personally care what happens to Ace.ā€ Mood (thatā€™s a joke I like Ace).
PFT- Aceā€™s reaction lol.
ā€œBut it is ā€œgoodā€ to make sure someone else doesnā€™t die-ā€ Goodbye Levi!Accomplice! I liked you, but Iā€™m probably gonna go try to find other theories after this episode :p (This is a joke, btw; if I didnā€™t discount theories like Hu!Culprit when the new alibis came up, Iā€™m not going to completely abandon Levi!Accomplice over this. But, just saying, there might be a few revisions to be made)
ā€œHaha. Youā€¦ā€ Ace breakdown! Breakdown! (I'm absolutely acting like Veronika now).
ā€œI was right all along.ā€ Yeah, Ace ā€˜can tell a hawk from a handsawā€™ Markey, nice one. (Does anyone even know/remember why Iā€™m referencing that line or is LGI too far in the past for that?)
New Ace sprite! Cool one too. Clutching his heart, Acevi shippers eating ig.Ā 
ā€œGood thing I didnā€™t fall for it. Not one bit.ā€ Oh theyā€™re eating GOOD good!
ā€œThereā€™s only one person in my whole life who Iā€™ve ever been able to call my friend-ā€ IS THAT A FUCKING TAYLOR REFERENCE?!?!?! Holy shit, I donā€™t know how many people are even gonna remember we have a canon name for that dude. I hope someone still has the screenshot of the deleted answer from the CH2 Part 1 Q&A.Ā 
ā€œI really hope you fucking die.ā€ We are active in Trial 2 Part 2, huh? Between Arturo telling him to ā€œshut his whore mouthā€ and this, Leviā€™s getting verbally jumped!
ā€œYouā€™re quite the interesting person, Leviā€ Please Veronika, give me the psychoanalysis.
Dude, thatā€™s three ā€œgood personā€ drops all on Levi. Chat the importance of this phrase may have been slightly overexaggerated by me (then again, the list of ā€œgood personā€ people has yet to grow from last chapter).
ā€œYou act like a big pushover because-ā€ This is the psychoanalysis I came to see!
I donā€™t know if Iā€™d call it ā€œintuitive understandingā€ but I guess Leviā€™s not fully wrong about Veronika.
Four ā€œgood person.ā€ And thatā€™s not counting Veronikaā€™s ā€œgood people.ā€
Five. Also, this continues to be interesting. Why did Levi bring this up again?
ā€œAfter looking at David, I thought being honest-ā€ Okay thatā€™s hilarious.
ā€œTry looking in a mirrorā€¦ā€ First David line of the episode, right? And itā€™s a nice one of course.
Thatā€™s six cases of ā€œgood personā€ in this chapter alone holy shit. At least itā€™s David, who still had counts.
ā€œI apologize for this tangentā€ Then can you please explain why the tangent exists in the first place? Or is it really just because being honest is "good"?
[Spoilers. It really was because of that. What]
ā€œI canā€™t believe there was a time I liked you.ā€ Yeah Acevi is still eating good. I doubt the hostility is gonna drive the shippers away; thatā€™s what theyā€™re here for, right?
And of course Whitā€™s first line makes him look suspicious. Bro you have an alibi for the time of disappearance of fish and you didnā€™t take the tape from the gym, stop pretending to be the killer.
ā€œLetā€™s not jump to conclusions.ā€ Thank you Hu, but let me jump to a conclusion. Is Levi not gonna explain why he revealed his secret beyond the honesty thing?
Okay Jā€™s response is good too.
ā€œNo, [Arei] didnā€™t [talk to Levi about the secret]ā€ Bro what the fuck are we even talking about anymore.
ā€œI donā€™t have a defenseā€ (Paraphrased) No but seriously what. Iā€™m this close to ripping out my hair. What is he doing.
ā€œWe donā€™t have evidence [Levi is the murderer]ā€ Thank you Teruko Tawaki for being one of three competent people in the building. This is affectionate, one of my favorite parts of the DRDT cast is that they all suck at class trials lol :p
Bro Whit is trying REALLY HARD to look like the murderer rn. Iā€™m still not letting him convince me. Yet.
ā€œI realized that motives alone are not concrete evidence.ā€ Yayyyy! Progress!
ā€œI feel a sneeze coming onā€¦ā€ Dude David and Teruko need to get into comedy, theyā€™re fucking hilarious.
ā€œOne second please.ā€ Hu I trusted you. Why. Youā€™re revealing your secret, right?
ā€œ...I didnā€™t want you all to think less of me.ā€ Aww, poor Hu. No oneā€™s gonna think less of you, youā€™re doing awesome (I am assuming she has hopeless child btw).
ā€œI wanted to believe the past never happenedā€ Butterfly motif and ā€œwater as rebirthā€ symbolism go brrr.Ā 
ā€œIā€™ve always been a selfish person, havenā€™t I?ā€ Hu please, youā€™re really nice, even if you go overboard at times.
ā€œI will share my secret if you promise to immediately move on.ā€ (Paraphrased) Good idea. It would probably be good to talk about it if she wants, but this is kinda not the time.
ā€œI have Veronikaā€™s secret, and she has mine.ā€ Okay I did NOT expect her to reveal she had Veronikaā€™s, but alright! Thatā€™s two more on the board, and two more most of us got right! At least the theorists are doing well on the secrets.
[Veronika agreeing to the pact] Bro what pact, how did you communicate that? Also, ā€œI have such little interest in both of our secretsā€ is wild, but it makes sense given her personality. Recap foils go brr, Iā€™ll sit down and think about this later.
ā€œMy own so-called secret isnā€™t even the worst thing Iā€™ve done.ā€ Uhā€¦??? Itā€™s just bombshell after bombshell, these episodes!
Oh, we are questioning the pact. I kinda thought theyā€™d managed to do that in the trial, now Iā€™m really curious. Please tell me we arenā€™t gonna have to ignore that question because of what Hu asked of them.
Shit.
ā€œWeā€™re not gonna talk about me?ā€ Oh, Vero, I would love for them to talk about you, but I donā€™t think itā€™s gonna happen.
ā€œAreiā€“ Achoo!ā€ WHEN I TELL YOU I CACKLED LIKE A MADPERSON HOLY SHIT
ā€œBless me! Also, excuse me! Wow, thank you for your support everyone!ā€ WAIT IT GOT FUNNIER.
ā€œI have another interruptionā€“ā€ Either it just got even funnier or heā€™s about to reveal Terukoā€™s secret and shit got serious, letā€™s see.
Oh, right. But, dude, Iā€™m relatively sure the last two unclaimed secrets canā€™t be hers. Maybe the survivorā€™s guilt one, even though that felt like Xanderā€™s? Are you absolutely certain you donā€™t have her secret?
ā€œMy family.ā€ Figured sheā€™d try that one. [She probably feels it's true to some extent].
Oh, now THATā€™S a David sprite alright. Pretty sure that settles it, the most common theories for secrets during hiatus were all correct.
Iā€™m guessing Davidā€™s still not gonna reveal it. We still need to see a Teruko teacher CG, and I donā€™t think weā€™re gonna have time for that if he brings it up.
ā€œWe did it!ā€ Yeah he ainā€™t revealing shit.Ā 
ā€œSir Light Pollutionā€ is actually crazy. Do his eyes really emit light like a flashlight? Thatā€™d be really fucking funny actually.
Oh, it was actually funny because Whit is a boyfailure. Alright, joke understood. I smiled.
ā€œI am truly impressedā€¦ by how bad that was.ā€ And there I laughed!
ā€œIā€™ve started to detect this trial isnā€™t about me.ā€ Iconic of you, Sir Attention Whore /affectionate
Thank you J.
Eden bro can we please let Teruko speak. Also you are not helping the culprit allegations miss Tobisa.
ā€œWhat happened between you and Arei?ā€ Jesus, we really cannot get to the fucking murder, huh? Fair, though, Iā€™m really curious about this too, though I feel weā€™re gonna skip past it without an answer or Davidā€™s just not gonna respond seriously.
ā€œI know that sheā€™s dead and that sheā€™s never coming back.ā€ Weā€™re getting worryingly close to your secret quote wording here, Eden. You sure you wanna go this route?
What are we, on seven ā€œgood personā€s now?
Oh shit are we actually getting an answer?
YES! YES! YES! LETā€™S GO! I wasnā€™t expecting this!
Eight. Though I think this oneā€™s repeated, though I might be wrong.
Yeah, this is old dialogue.
Man, Areiā€™s and Edenā€™s VAs did amazing work this episode!
ā€œThat makes me feel really relieved.ā€ Lie. She didnā€™t say that. Thatā€™s my gut reaction, anyways, I could be wrong.
ā€œI was pissed at you for a bit.ā€ Oh shit chat Davidā€™s not getting cut off. This might actually be true. What the fuck?
Oh, also. Nine. David again.
ā€œThereā€™s not even anything positiveā€¦ā€ Okay this hurts a fucking ton. If Davidā€™s lying, I want him dead. If this is true, holy shit this is sad.
ā€œA metamorphosis like thatā€¦ā€ Jeez this is actually getting sad sad. Auch.
ā€œIā€™ll never be a good person.ā€ Ten, and the tenth hurts a LOT. I donā€™t think Davidā€™s lying, members of the jury. Holy shit this is sad.Ā 
ā€œIt turns out that you might be a total piece of shitā€¦ā€ Holy shit I miss Arei already.
Eleven.
ā€œLike Santa Clausā€¦ā€ Didnā€™t Charles bring up something like that talking with Teruko in the computer room? Interesting connection. I guess not ā€œall that glitters,ā€ yeah.
ā€œItā€™s okay that Iā€™ll never be a good person, because no one else can be either.ā€ Okay, first; twelve. Second, ouch.
[I know my commentary's not exactly thrilling. Forgive me, I'm suffering]
ā€œEven Eden.ā€ And what does that mean?
[Eden with blood on her hands CG]
ā€¦
HUH????????????????????????????????????????
I canā€™t- Words- Not working. Hold on, I gotta see what the fuck is happening here.
[Pan to fork]
Iā€™M EVEN MORE CONFUSED THAN BEFORE! WHAT THE FUCK?!
It has four prongs, which matches the Xander one. Did Eden take out Xanderā€™s eye? How in the actual fuck? No chance, right? Iā€™m just going insane?
ā€œIā€™m sure even Eden has hurt someoneā€ (Paraphrased). Brain is still not working. Sorry.
ā€œEven someone like her must have made a mistake she couldnā€™t take backā€ WE ARE GETTING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO SECRET QUOTE WORDING!
Weā€™re just moving on? That shit didnā€™t happen? Iā€™m fucking sorry?
I canā€™t even- Does this imply fucking MM!Eden? I donā€™t think so, she doesnā€™t look like she wanted to- WAS it Xander she stabbed? Again, how? What? Iā€™m so confused. YOU CANā€™T DO THIS TO US DEV! I NEED ANSWERS!!!
ā€œSecond ever friendā€¦ā€ Ouch ouch ouch-
Another ā€œgood peopleā€ btw.
[Arei CG] Thatā€™s the fucking- THAT LOOKS LIKE THE FUCKING GIRL FROM LGI?!?!?!
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Like, obviously they look different, but thatā€™s the same pose, with the hand and everything- WHAT?!
Is Arei/David a ship? Itā€™ll probably be one after this.Ā 
ā€œNothing-ā€ You absolute piece of shit. Holy shit David, when I get my hands on you Davidā€¦
ā€œNothing else happened between us, I promise.ā€ Wow. Who wouldā€™ve thunk this is how I come to fucking despise a man so much while he simultaneously rises in my fave characters ranking, huh? Holy hell.
ā€œOne hundred percent promise-ā€ I get more mad every line. Thatā€™s good character writing, folks. Jesus.
I canā€™t read Eden this episode. Still think sheā€™s the culprit lol.
ā€œFinally.ā€ Yeah, Teruko. Same.
[By the way, the next section has a lot of me rambling about my own theories, so if you don't know them, here's a link to the latest, now likely outdated version]
ā€œFrom that low of heightā€¦ā€ I like where weā€™re going.
ā€œIā€™m starting to realize how long it's taken to get here.ā€ (Paraphrased) Yeah, Whit. Yeah.
ā€œSome people had to wait one year and five months-ā€ PFFFT- Also Whitā€™s reaction means heā€™s not fully fourth wall aware, which is cool.
NON-STOP DEBATE! LETā€™S DO IT!Ā 
[Sees truth bullet] Yes! The jugs were used as weights! Tell me Iā€™m right about this!
YEAH! I GOT IT RIGHT! Also Veronikaā€™s ā€œconsentā€ animation isā€¦ uuhā€¦ very ā€˜Ronika if you catch my drift. I love it!
ā€œThose jugs ended up breakingā€¦ā€ You know it! I wonder if maybe they didnā€™t have time to clean the fish? But they could have gotten water literally elsewhere, so they clearly did use them for alibi.
ā€œThe jugs alone arenā€™t enoughā€¦ā€ (Paraphrased). Yeah, we gotta go higher. Like, the girders at the topā€¦?
ā€œ... rafters on the ceiling.ā€ Yeah!!! Wrong name but I also got this right!
ā€œIt must have been one long ropeā€¦ā€ Or two, because you need the stopper.
ā€œOh, wait, youā€™re agreeing with me. Yes.ā€ Funny, laughed.
ā€œThe rafters were way too highā€¦ā€ Ball of clothes, come on.
ā€œ...something like a pulleyā€¦ā€ Yeah, Whit knows what Iā€™m talking about! The fact heā€™s being helpful makes him less suspicious. Finally, he managed to open his mouth without incriminating himself of something!
ā€œHigh locationā€¦ā€ Are we actually doing stopper rope? My guess is that thatā€™s when weā€™ll get teacher Teruko.
ā€œIn drop hangingā€¦ā€ Okay, first, love the monologue. Second, is there a reason you know so much about drop hanging? Did your motherā€¦? I guess itā€™s not necessary. I also came to the same conclusions and I donā€™t have any history with the stuff.Ā 
ā€œWe also know she didnā€™t hit the ground-ā€ Does anyone have a counter of tasteless Whit jokes? Just checking.
ā€œArenā€™t I so smartā€¦ā€ And weā€™re back to kinda incriminating ourselves, because you're denying pulley method. Fantastic.
WOO! ANOTHER NON-STOP! Let me guess, ā€œspinny thingā€ is the truth bullet?
ā€œTape on carousel.ā€ Close enough. Although, hold on, are we actually gonna go ā€œstopped with hands?ā€ No chance, right?
Also am I stupid or does Arturoā€™s VA sound different in the debates?
Yeah btw Levi!Accomplice is dead and buried, I need to find other ways for Eden to have done this.
I like that Teruko still calls it a spinny thing :p
Wow, everyoneā€™s correcting her, huh? I guess Iā€™m the only one that appreciates her smh.
ā€œ...when I need to correct the killerā€™s grammar.ā€ Funny comeback, but you know, the letter does actually have quite a few spelling errors.
Yay! Teacher Teruko! She looks so cute with glasses!
Also I cannot believe it. These Microsoft-Paint ass diagrams remind me of when I did them too lol.
Oh, shit, under the seesaw! Thatā€™s a good one, Teruko! I didnā€™t catch that. (Then again, I always thought the seesaw was in a different place, but oh well).
Is that dog ears Whit? My guy, you know Charles dislikes dogs, right? Then again, you do canonically have negative rizz, so :p
Oh, tying the rope! Not quite a stopper rope, but same concept. Yeah, would work. Good one Teruko!
ā€œThe carousel is made of smooth metal.ā€ THATā€™S WHAT THE TAPE WAS FOR! Clutch.
Oh shit, is the cliffhanger going to be the tapeā€™s origin?
ā€œIā€™ve seen this murder method before.ā€ Okay, wait. One, no origin of tape. Thatā€™s big for Eden!Culprit: My current guess is that someone (ie Veronika) will want to discuss the Ace-Nico thing, which will lead to them discovering Eden took the tape. Two, what the fuck do you mean youā€™ve seen this before?!
ā€œYou have?ā€ Looking kinda worried there, Edenā€¦
ā€œAnd so have you.ā€ Okay am I forgetting something? Minā€™s execution wasnā€™t like this, what the hellā€¦
ā€œMe?ā€ Eden, honey, the allegationsā€¦
ā€œWeā€™re going to talk about a different caseā€¦ā€ Oh shit Terukoā€™s got the Ace method figured out? I would really love to hear that because I have no idea what the hell was happening with that one. Also, I called it! Didnā€™t expect it to be Teruko who brought us back to the Ace case, but still.Ā 
ā€œExplain yourself, Nico.ā€ YEAH!!!! Iā€™m actually really excited. Iā€™m gonna look into revising my theory on that case before the next episode, see if I can figure it out, since I think the old methods Iā€™ve discussed with others donā€™t quite line up with what Teruā€™s describing.Ā 
What an episode!
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General Thoughts:
Holy shit. Just. So much happened. Itā€™s too much peak.
The Eden CG is the first thing on my mind; thatā€™s crazy. Did she really take out Xanderā€™s eye? I have zero idea what else I would be looking at. Certainly not MM!Eden, too obvious, but I donā€™t know whatā€™s happening there. No fucking idea. I might make a more detailed post when I get my thoughts in order, but all Iā€™m saying; the possibility the girl she kissed was Mai? That Mai told her about Teruko, and Eden attacked Xander in the pre-prologue killing game to protect Teruko? Hmmā€¦
The secrets are huge, too. Nothing wild, given like 75% of the fandom had assumed these secrets anyways, but still nice to get them all. The Levi explanation was fascinating, but I donā€™t know what the fuck it has to do with the trial. Was it really a pointless aside? I donā€™t knowā€¦
The Arei scene was fucking insane even outside the Eden CG. Stabbed through the heart, havenā€™t felt that sad since Minā€™s death, and, yeahā€¦
Not to mention, the fucking ā€œIdeal Country Woman from LGIā€ looking ass frame. At least I finally got my answer; it was a wrist bend, not a glove.Ā 
And David. David. Why are you like this. I genuinely canā€™t tell why he does anything anymore.
Finally, I love the Taylor mention, thatā€™s insane. And Veronika has a darker secret? She really wants those MM allegations, huh? Jokes aside, Iā€™m really curious about both those things. I kinda wonder if somehow the students will see the motive videos from Trial 1, since weā€™re hearing about Taylor and Iā€™m hoping Alyssa later.
Justā€¦ Holy shit this episode was awesome. Cannot wait for next week.
First Impression Murder Theory Updates
Itā€™s looking like Levi!Accomplice will end up being a nice AU and nothing more, although Iā€™m not 100% ruling it out. That said, Iā€™m still pretty confident in Eden!Culprit, especially with how we mentioned the tape on the spinny thing was easy to grip, but no oneā€™s made the connection to the gym yet.Ā 
The big thing to solve in the Arei case, then, is how Eden got the fish. Thereā€™s a few other accomplices she could have, but those are looking rough unless she somehow got Arei to do it. That said, Iā€™m considering the possibility that she took the minnows ultra early, before Nico started feeding them. That would explain how they didnā€™t notice there were a few missing the night before; they just never counted the ones in the jugs in the first place. That has issues too, but Iā€™ll see about it.Ā 
That said, Iā€™m pretty happy with myself! I got a lot of the major points of the pulley system right. The only thing is the ā€œstopper rope vs tie a knotā€ thing, but the principle is similar enough. Weā€™ll see about things like the ball of clothes to put the rope over the rafters. Thereā€™s still plenty of murder to discuss.Ā 
As for the Ace caseā€¦ Itā€™ll need a full review later. If itā€™s supposed to be similar to Areiā€™s case, I really have no clue what the hell was happening there. Though I guess the ridiculous wire circuit I made might actually have some merit, given we're doing some kind of pulley?
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... Maybe not :p
I have no further insight; I just need to look at it again.
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Anyways, hope you enjoyed! Watching this episode took me like two hours and a half while writing thisā€¦ this almost 4k word postā€¦ soā€¦ yeah. Gods save me if there actually is an hour long episode left. See yaā€™!
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xtinaangelicax Ā· 1 year ago
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J Being on the Chapter 2 Title Card?? Theorizing (sorta... I'm clueless ;-;)
Can we talk about the fact that J is on the chapter 2 title card rn?? Like... I see ALMOST NO ONE so far in the fandom theorizing about what this could mean. We know that her secret about Mariabella being her mom was revealed during this chapter, but... I don't really feel like that's big enough to warrant her being on the title card yet so far? I think? It's an important secret, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't rly rival the importance of the actual murders going on imo.
I mean-- Teruko and Xander were on the first chapter title card. That is a big deal. Xander died after trying to kill Teruko, and got killed by Min instead: Teruko's our protagonist. Being on the title card is obviously the most indicative clue of a character being insanely important to the narrative for that chapter, possibly even a culprit or victim, but we all just been sleepin on that clue lately and ignoring it lol wut--
Like... I mean, J tries enlisting Teruko's help getting away from Arturo for a minute in this chapter- the dressing room scene- and has a frigging knife pulled on her. She got her secret she desperately wanted to cover up, probably for a large portion of her life, exposed by some jerk in the very same, what, 24 hour period? And she's constantly now being stalked by said jerk, too. Poor gal.
I don't know if J maybe snapped from it all, and murdered Arei. I'm not sure how she WOULD have, given Arturo stalking her. So... maybe it's... something else? But like? SOMETHING is being set up with J here, and if anyone has any ideas feel free to suggest, cuz I can't figure out what it is yet. I'm thinking randomly off the top of my head of stuff we know... like...
J was the first to go to Arei's room to check for her body, after they realized she was missing? Also, J was the first to complain about Teruko possibly being in cahoots with the culprit and choosing who guards the body based on that. After which, J was then promptly chosen to guard the body as well. Important? Possibly. Maybe. Idk...
She goes on a whole spiel about how serious murder is that gains a lot of spotlight for a few minutes, when she was talking to Nico... also, she has this new sadistic grin sprite after revealing Arturo's secret. UH is that sprite gonna be used again for something?
I think there's literally no way J isn't gonna have some sort of big reveal of significance to the plot during the rest of the chapter 2 trial.
There's a bit of evidence that could point to her being the killer, but I don't wanna say I believe that for sure. Just that... SOMETHING'S up.
J being on the chapter 2 title card is definitely important.
ALSO FINALLY: J's hidden quote is "Please don't call me your daughter ever again."
????????how the frick is J going to say this quote?? So far, all the hidden quotes have been said a little while before the character dies, before/during a pivotal moment in the plot and their development... therefore, J is gonna say this line at some point. That's indisputable.
But??? How?? Will it be said during a flashback where she said it to Mariabella in the past? Or... are we gonna see J get in contact with her mom somehow? Is J the culprit, and MonoTV calls in a 'special guest viewer video call' right before her execution just to rub it in her face, and it's her mom, and... J says her hidden quote there?
Is one of the future motives gonna involve being able to communicate something with your family, maybe, and then J says it?
I'm probably gonna look back more and see if there's any other sort of hints or foreshadowing going on with J, but... I just wanted to point all this out and possibly open up discussion/theorizing about this :)
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spyrkle4 Ā· 2 years ago
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hooo boy ep 10 had some moments
spoilers under the cutĀ 
-Okay so I def am convinced Arei is dead now, I was on the fence bc of the switch theory... but after this ep, itā€™s sunken in for me nowĀ 
-that moment w/ her and Eden AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Even if Arei didnā€™t have much time to change... she was trying her best in the time she had left
-David I am onto, sure he wasĀ ā€œpoor Arei :ā€™(ā€ in the trial, but heā€™s def acting shifty
(If Ace actually guessed his secret I will scream)
-Also J comitting revenge was slightly hilarious, but scary
-Iā€™m very curious on the details with Arturo and his sister, to pull a Veronika here, Iā€™m guessing he had very strict parents and when he ditched home to fufill his own path in life, his sister got the brunt of the pressure and unsubscribed from living when she couldnā€™t take it anymore, and Arturo got blamed for it by extended family
-Thatā€™s my theory at least, and Arturo has been coping unhealthily, like not cool man, how dare you threaten Eden like that >:T
-poor Eden omg she has been feeling so much guilt, it wasnā€™t her fault Min committed murder, it wasnā€™t her fault someone killed Arei, but she still blames herself for these things : (
-Anyone else here scared of Veronika? I am *raises hand* Iā€™ve described her asĀ ā€œJunko but she copes with despair addiction with horror moviesā€ and that feels SO accurate... I am getting so many chapter 3 vibes from her, will be surprised if she lives past Chapter 3
-I was lowkey thinking weā€™d get a scrum debate while everyone accused Arturo but maybe thatā€™s next ep,Ā 
-This was really enjoyable, and the flashback fleshed out Arei even after her death, then again despair time has a thing the dead cast haunting the narrative (Min got mentioned in the trial), so even if sheā€™s gone... sheā€™ll still be around in some sad way
-Really :ā€™( Arei never got a chance to improve and make friends, maybe she did before the killing show started, but who knows, we might find out if thereā€™s a bonus video...
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thebadjoe Ā· 2 years ago
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BAD JOE'S DRDT CH.2 CRIME SOLVING THEORY PART 2
Hello! I'm the dude who made a ridiculously long theory post about the culprit for chapter 2 by bringing a good amount of points that makes sense, but also makes it hard to believe for most. Just like previously, the post I'm gonna make is gonna touch the big spoilers territory, especially if I end up being right. More importantly though, a good chunk of this post will CONTAIN HEAVY Ch.2 Ep.10 SPOILERS, SO BEWARE!!!
For those who haven't read my theory yet, here it is. Click me!
MAKE SURE YOU CLICK ON THIS LINK AND READ MY FIRST THEORY POST BEFORE READING THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY.
So, a while ago, my theory post was made after watching Episode 9, but not Episode 10 since it wasn't released yet at the time. And then once the stream of that episode came live, it was time to put my theory to the test, to see if there would be any reveal that would make my theory difficult to work.
For the most part, it's still holding strong. There is however something in that video that throws a wrench into my theory. More specifically, it messes up with my motive. Today, I am here to explain in details what I mean by that as well as giving you alternate solutions to that problem. Also, I'll be discussing a few other holes in my theory (that was there before ep.10 existed) as well as giving you a few more reasons why my theory could work.
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Step #1 : The note & the flashback
Yeah... let's start with that.
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To remind the readers just in case, my theory is all about Eden being the culprit of this case. And... you can already see where I'm going with this.
Eden was pretty nervous and hesitant with revealing the noteĀ­. But she eventually shares the note in a reluctant manner. Turns out... it's actually a pretty incriminating proof for her. But then... why would the note be found in the trash can? Why wouldn't she keep it instead of throwing it away if she was the culprit? Why would she help Whit and Rose to match the pieces of the puzzle being the ripped out note?
It seems so weird, but she claims right before that whoever made this note, they're trying to impersonate her. Makes sense, but she's still a tad suspicious. But then this happens...
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We learn that the secret "Your younger sister killed herself, and you're the reason why." actually belongs to Arturo which is later confirmed by Eden herself. And to put icing to this messy cake, we also get the full explanation as to what happened back then which we get to view it as a flashback!
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So yeah, with that explanation (flashback), not only do we learn why Eden was scared and hesitant in revealing that secret, we also learn that she became friends with Arei. Which screws up with the motive I had set up for Eden. For those who don't remember, it was supposed to be "She killed because of all the bullying, the overly excessive bullying from Arei was the final straw for her."
Because of that note and flashback, my motive doesn't really work on that theory anymore... or does it?
Nonetheless, there is a much bigger issue regarding Eden being the culprit. Thanks to this note and flashback, it makes Eden look a lot more innocent than usual. The odds of her being the culprit seem so... unlikely at this point, right?
Heck, there's even someone who made a poll asking who they think is the culprit after watching episode 10. Wanna know the % of votes towards Eden being the culprit? 1.6%. I repeat. 1.6%!!!! Like man... a lot of people don't think she is the culprit, moreso thanks to this episode.
Then... does that mean you're giving up on your theory?
Heh, not at all. I have an explanation for all of this. It's gonna sound crazy, but please, hear me out.
What if... this was all part of Eden's plan?
....what?
That's right! You heard me right! This was all part of Eden's elaborate plan and the reason why she would pull such a complicated plan is precisely because she seriously has the intention to win this killing game! Therefore, she pulled this grandiose scheme so that she would look the most innocent individual within this class trial and she pulled it off perfectly (so far).
Don't believe me? Then let me explain a few things. Let's consider this following fact first : the beginning of that flashback, from Eden sharing the secret to Arturo, to Arturo threatening Eden to Arei coming in to save the day and kick his ass, all of that is the truth. Otherwise, Arturo would've called it out if Eden was lying.
Now, let's get into Eden's pov and pretend that she's indeed the culprit. Considering how complex that murder scheme is, that part with her meeting up with Arturo to share the secret was also part of her plan.
She intentionally arranged that meeting to conflict so to create the possibility of Arturo blackmailing her. Add a convincing motive that Arturo commited the crime.
What about Arei coming in to save Eden?
That... it's hard to say. Easier answer would be no and that it was a very convenient timing that she ended up coming in to save Eden. It's also possible that she planned for her to arrive somehow. Probably not with a letter since they were not on good terms yet at the time. It's possible that Eden was keeping an eye to her surroundings to see if someone could hear her and Arturo in that medical room.
I know... it seems kinda weak, but I have a counterargument for this. Let me just finish explaining Eden's plan first.
So after being friends with Arei, she proceeded with the setup for her murder scheme, then knocked Ace unconscious with the turpentine. Then after this, eitheir two things happened : Eden wrote the letter to lure Arei into the playground to knock her out or Eden snuck up on Arei, knocking her unconscious, set up the rest then created a fake letter.
Regardless of which situation it was, she made sure to use a different handwriting than her usual for the note, ripped it and put it in the trash can. Whether it gets found out or not doesn't matter because she can easily claim that it wasn't hers.
Cause if we think about it, why would the culprit incriminate herself by leaving such letter out in the open? They could've hidden it somewhere much safer instead, but no, there was a reason for that. She did this because she knew the class would think that it wouldn't make sense for her to write that note and also be the culprit. So by leaving that proof in the open, she actually looks more innocent rather than suspicious.
And then if you take into consideration that she's super kind and sweet, the fact that she was acting nervous in the trial because she felt "threatened" by Arturo, her deception has paid off and now she looks incredibly innocent thanks to that buildup.
Eden is a lot more deceptive and terrifying than we can imagine if all I said ends up being the truth (for the most part).
What about that weak point of yours?
Right! It does seem like Arei saving Eden was not part of the culprit's plan for the most part, but it worked out really well for her. But did you know that even if Arei didn't save Eden, her plan would still work just fine?
Essentially, all Eden needed was someone to pinpoint as the prime suspect with a very valid motive. She only needed to meet with Arturo, to have him threaten her and the rest works out just fine.
It's just that if it happened that way, Eden would've instead snuck up on Arei, knock her out with the turpentine, murdered her, then fabricate this letter, or at least, something very similar.
It's also because of this that I don't think my original culprit motive is not quite thrown out of the water. Because if her plan actually didn't involve Arei saving her, then Eden wanting to kill to end the bullying would definitly work there. It's just that on top of wanting to end the bullying, she also wants to end this killing game, by winning on her own terms.
Now then, let's discu-
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Step #2 : Holes in my theory? Where?
Bro! I don't approve of your disguise theory! Eden is much smaller compared to Arei, so people would've known!
*sigh*
Yeah, this is an issue, but it's not impossible to explain. Let's start by saying that she couldn't hide her real height with heels simply because Arei only wears shoes.
I also doubt there's any kind of special powers or chemicals or skills that allows someone to be temporarily higher in height than usual and that would be a lame solution to this problem because I would be using hints that was never presented in the story on top of using things that doesn't exist.
So instead, there are 2 likely scenarios that could "probably" explain that issue.
People weren't paying attention enough to Arei during lunchtime because of all the arguing. Arei never spoke (obviously cause someone disguised can't replicate her voice) and no one ever spoke to her as far as we're aware. So it's not improbable to think they haven't really paid that much attention to her.
She was sitting down at the time, so it was harder to tell the height difference. I know what we saw were standing sprites, but we can imagine she must've been sitting down most of the time since they're at a cafeteria, surrounded with tables and chairs.
So yeah, not my strongest counter argument, but hey, it works!
Eden has different eye colors compared to Arei!
For the eyes, easiest solution to that problem is that she wore contact lenses of a color matching Arei's eyes.
But everyone has rather unique eyes, you couldn't replicate it with simply colored contact lenses!
Probably not, but it doesn't really matter. Look at this sprite!
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See something interesting? You don't quite see her eyes very well, don't you? The disguised culprit could've easily hide any imperfections of the eyes with this pose.
What about the skin? Eden looks nothing like Arei!
Like I said before, makeup kit. I haven't watched these videos in details on youtube, but it's actually very possible to change a skin tone with foundation. Of course, since she'd have to do it on all her exposed body, it'd take a very considerable amount of time and effort.
Ah! I gotchu now! You just said that applying all this makeup would take a lot of time. There's no way she would have the time and energy to carry out a failed murder, a real murder, set everything up and take a long time to disguise yourself! It's impossible!
No, that's wrong!
Actually, it's very doable for someone like Eden. In fact, it's exactly because of this that she's likely one of the only classmate who could've carried out this whole plan.
I have the proof for you right there!
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This goes way back. Prologue Episode 2.
"Sometimes I can work up to a total of 15 hours without breaks!"
I'm sure technicly anyone could do this with the proper motivation and determination, but take into consideration that she's used to doing this. She's done it before.
It's possible that she stayed up all night to carry out the plan, get her disguise ready and accurate for morning/lunchtime and then went to bed afterwards to take a nap before meeting up with Hu for cleaning duties.
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Step #3 : One more thing before I leave!
I know that some of you don't believe it's her despite everything I've thrown at you and that's perfectly fine. It's just a theory after all. I'm also perfectly fine with people coming up with different culprit theories, some more crazy than others and whatnot. I'm all down to uncover all kinds of possibilities we can uncover about this chapter.
However, I think it's also important to remind everyone of certain things that are probably facts to make sure we don't get too much off track.
So I'd like to give you guys a few pointers regarding what I believe would be the rules of a danganronpa murder mystery.
Based on my experience with this series and some of these fangans, I think there's a certain guideline and logic to follow. I personally think that from the beginning of chapter to the end of an investigation of that chapter, it's possible to solve the murder mystery with just that information.
Maybe not in regards to the whydunnit, but definitly for the whodunnit and howdunnit.
Although it's not usually easy to figure that out until you learn more information during the trial. They make it pretty challenging, but also solvable. I'd like to think that this applies to chapter 2 as well.
I think the creator intended it to be solvable with all the information given from the beginning until the end of the investigation of chapter 2.
This is one of the reasons why I seriously think Eden is the culprit in that murder mystery. I can only manage to solve it with Eden as the culprit.
But maybe you guys can with a different culprit. There's probably a perfectly explainable theory that I'm not seeing quite yet that could be plausible.
I'm looking forward to see what's about to happen in episode 11!
If you guys have any questions or anything you'd like to point out that I might be wrong, let me know!
Thank you!
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moorheadthanyoucanhandle Ā· 1 year ago
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COMPLEX CHARACTERS
Opening today:
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Freud's Last Session--The "session" in question is fictional, or at best nervily speculative--a meeting of the titular psychoanalytic pioneer with the Christian apologist C. S. Lewis. It's September of 1939; England has just declared war on Hitler's Germany, and Freud, who has fled Austria for England with his obsessively devoted daughter Anna, is in the agonizing homestretch of terminal mouth cancer. Irked by Lewis' parody of him inĀ The Pilgrim's RegressĀ (1933), Freud has invited the young Oxford don to his house in London for a civil but contentious chat.
Freud is played by Anthony Hopkins; Lewis is played by Matthew Goode. The direction is by Matthew Brown from a script he co-wrote with the American playwright Mark St. Germain, based on St. Germain's play (which I saw well-produced by Arizona Theatre Company in 2013). The play is a two-hander, but this handsomely-produced movie expands on it with scenes involving Anna (Liv Lisa Fries) and her partner Dorothy Burlingham (Jodi Balfour), flashbacks to Freud's childhood traumas and to Lewis' PTSD from the trenches in the earlier war, his eyebrow-raising cohabitation with Janie Moore (Orla Brady), etc.
But the juice in the film is still in the theatrical sparring between the two leads, especially Hopkins as the chuckling, cheerfully furious Freud. He's as lovably cantankerous here as he was as Pope Benedict in 2019'sĀ The Two Popes. For his part, Goode is smart enough not to make Lewis saintly or jolly; he gives him an edge of defensive aloofness alongside a deep decency.
It's hard to say which, if either, of the two men's viewpoints St. Germain and Brown are most in symapthy with. Many of us are likely to feel ourselves somewhere between Freud's staunch and bitter rationalism and Lewis' somehow rather half-hearted pose of orthodoxy. But the point of the film seems to be that what underlies both is, at least partly, existential terror, of a sort to which intelligent, intensely imaginative people like these two are particularly subject. Neither strict nonbelief nor strict belief seems to offer much deliverance.
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Mean Girls--"It's a cautionary tale..." So the Greek chorus characters Janis and Damian sing to us at the beginning of this musical remake of the well-loved 2004 teen comedy, pared down from the 2018 Broadway version. This may be the secret ofĀ Mean Girls, in each iteration: it reallyĀ isĀ a moral tale with a cautionary point, and the heroine really does go to the dark side.
As you'll recall, Cady Heron (Angourie Rice) is a smart kid who grew up in campsites in Africa; her mother (Jenna Fischer) is a researcher. When she lands at a suburban American high school for junior year, the divisions in cafeteria clique and caste strike her as similar to those in the animal kingdom. She gets sucked into spending lunches with "The Plastics," a circle of glamorous sycophants led by uber-mean girl Regina George (RenĆ©e Rapp). Cady agrees, initially, at the urging of artsy girl Janis (Auli'i Cravalho) and big gay Damian (Jaquel Spivey) to serve as a double agent in a revenge plot against Regina. But gradually, of course, the plastic begins to take over for real.Ā 
Or maybe the secret is just that the film, scripted, like the original, by Tina Fey (freely adapting a book by Rosalind Wiseman), is funny and sweet, but not so sweet that it forgets to be, you know, mean. Or maybe it's that most of the songs, by Nell Benjamin and Jeff Richmond, are delightful, and buoyantly staged by directors Samantha Jayne and Arturo Perez, Jr.
Overall, these actors don't have the vibrancy or distinctive personalities of the original film's cast, but they make up for this with terrific musical performing. Rapp brings such a baleful moan to "Meet the Plastics" that she really is a little scary, and Rice shades herself from guileless to conniving very believably. A few vets are around; Fey and Tim Meadows reprise their roles from the first film, and Busy Phillips and Jon Hamm contribute funny bits. The standouts, however, are Cravalho as Janis and Spivey as Damian, both equipped with gorgeous voices and the ability to act while they're belting.
Fey's generous-hearted--and sensible--take on popularity and self-esteem has provided a solid and unsentimental piece of role modeling for teens (and the teens that endure within most adults) for twenty years now. Maybe this movie will extend it for another twenty.
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a-student-out-of-time Ā· 2 years ago
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As an opponent of switch theory, I will try to answer the points that you present. 1. Firstly, the fact that Teruko prosopagnosia is mentioned in chapter 2 does not mean that it will play an important role in chapter 2, that if the author thought if Teruko prosopagnosia was mentioned in the chapter where this aspect is used, it would be very obvious, so they placed this mention on one chapter earlier in the hope that the reader might slightly forget, thus making the mystery harder for himself. and by the way, THE OTHERS DON'T HAVE prosopagnosia THEY WOULD NOTICE IF J SOMETHING IS WRONG AND HOW THE THEORY of conspiracy failed, how do you explain it?
2. To show that Teruko still feels pain for Min's death and that although she can pretend that she doesn't care, she will feel pain for people's deaths.
3. Isn't the CG where Arei epicly opens the door, the hair isn't the same length? artistic approach.
4. Why weren't we shown the wigs during the investigation? Maybe because they are not involved in the murder at all? during the search for the body of Arei Teruko, she would have noticed that something was missing here and the investigation returned in time, but if this did not happen, then they are unlikely to be connected with the crime. and what if wigs play a part in chapter 3 where teruko prosopagnosia comes into play.
One of the reasons why I don't like this theory is that it's not Arei's character to follow what plan is not clear, seeing as Eden the person she worries going through a difficult time thinking she's dead. Did Arei continue to pretend to be J after seeing this? NO it's not the character of Arei, it's not only an OOC theory for Arei but a theory of a completely waste character J that hasn't even started going through the character path.
//First of all, thank you for taking the time to offering some counter-arguments. It's nice to have someone addressing the points I've made.
//But I still don't see these as particularly strong ones for a few reasons. And by a few, I mean I've gone into a lot of detail as to why:
1A. It doesn't matter because, as I've talked about before, the only people who actually examined Arei's body were Teruko (the person who can't differentiate faces) and Arturo (who we've learned had reasons to half-ass the investigation, if not kill her himself). Not to mention they didn't exactly do a good job investigating her actual death regardless of those details, and what they found was very surface-level. Nobody would've found out it's not her because nobody would've known to check if that wasn't her body.
1B. The idea that they're placing that detail a chapter early, where it isn't going to be relevant, feels very wasteful to me. Yes, they did place setup in the prologue and chapter one, but those were small moments and would've come off as just comedy if you weren't paying attention. Xander's super strength was relevant to Chapter 1, after all; it proved vital in decoding the murder plan. Veronika asking probing questions about the details of Teruko's prosopagnosia is very different from Teruko not remembering Charles until Hu mentions his hair color and outfit. DR chapters are often each self-contained stories, and the details we get are always relevant to the case, no matter how small, and potentially the cases that come later. There's been no DR game that includes character details that don't become relevant at all until the next chapter. Putting in details that won't have payoff until later, unless we're talking about contributing to a larger narrative, doesn't happen here. That's not just a DR thing, that's a basic good writing thing; let the information we get in the middle of a story be relevant to that story, not just serve as setup for a different one.
2A. If it were as simple as that, why not just include a brief flashback to Min. Xander has gotten plenty of mention this chapter, such as when Teruko was playing with cacti and very clearly roleplaying a scenario where she defeats him and begs for forgiveness. That's definitely a sign she misses Xander. But if Teruko was referencing Min there, she would've said Min and Min would've appeared. Instead, the screen went black and we got no mention of what she was reminded of. I'm actually not fully convinced it was Min because...
2B. Something I haven't really discussed in detail here is the scene with Charles and Whit in the computer lab, where they're doing some hacking. Teruko asks about Charles' brother, the one he doesn't even remember, and Charles proceeds to ask her if she knows what Childhood Amnesia is. That also got no follow-up, as Teruko was hungry. I'm starting to think Teruko wasn't reminded of Min, but someone else from her past, which I'm certain is going to be VERY important given the nature of her motive secret.
3. Yes, but she was actually herself in that CG. I'm not talking about when she confronted Arturo, because that was very clearly Arei. I'm talking about the corpse found in the playground, whose hair is clearly longer than it's supposed to be. That was before the window of time where the two of them could've switched places, and thus the body found. And as I've said before, you can't just assign artistic license because Xander's look wasn't subject to that.
4. Again, the idea that things are only here for setup in Chapter 3 is unsubstantiated. This floor was created for Chapter 2, thus the things here- like with every other DR game- are going to be relevant to Chapter 2. Not only that, but we saw the wigs on three separate occasions in this chapter: when they first entered and got new clothes, when Teruko asked Rose about her secret, and when J tried to get Teruko to help her get away from Arturo. After that, the one time they went back there- when they were looking for Arei- it didn't pan over to show the wigs again, and that was the last time we saw inside the dressing room. That doesn't strike you as suspicious? Furthermore, why can't the wigs be relevant here and now, rather than later?
//To be honest, it sounds more like you're specifically trying to discredit my theory rather than offer a solid alternative. You can't just look at this and say "Well, none of it is guaranteed to be relevant now." Why not? What makes you so sure it isn't?
//You also can't just say "No, you're wrong" in a debate without some kind of solid basis for why I'm wrong. Otherwise, it comes across as you disagreeing on the grounds of "I don't like what you're saying."
//I'm not trying to be petty, I'm just offering my stance on debates. You need to work on your counter-arguments, though I really do appreciate you taking the time to offer them.
//And I can understand the disagreement, I honestly can. It's a crazy theory and I don't even expect to be right about everything, and I totally get why you'd see this as nonsensical and that it would come at the cost of another character who's comparatively gotten much less development. But let me offer you an alternative to your final point of disagreement.
//Arei said several times in the flashbacks that Eden is someone she needs to protect. We don't know what exactly happened on her end of things, before or after she confronted David, or how all the other moving parts of this chapter fit together. We don't even know how the murder actually happened yet.
//With that in mind, we can't make the assumption that, if Arei is really disguised as J, that there would be zero risk of her exposing herself. As I've said before, that would be an easy way for David and/or the Blackened of this case to pin the crime on her, because all she'd really be able to defend herself with are hearsay on her part.
//And given that she knows David's, Arturo's and one more person's secrets, would it really be a stretch to say that she could convince J to help her? That maybe the two of them worked together to try and protect the others? Especially since J, knowing that Arturo pulled a knife on Eden, seems like the kind of person who'd want to take action.
//I never suggested the story sacrificed J so Arei could live. I'm suggesting that, much like we saw with Arei in the flashbacks, plenty of things could've gone on behind that scenes that show the two of them were major players in what went on. The flashbacks with Arei and Eden were phenomenal, so the very same could be true with J.
//That feels more interesting to me than "J gets stalked and harassed by Arturo for a chapter, and then gets to dunk on him in the trial." Yes, I'll be sad if she's actually gone, but what matters is how it actually happened and the circumstances that lead up to it.
//Again, we've gotten basically no details on the murder itself as of yet. Nothing that suggests things couldn't have played out like this, or, like with David, there isn't more going on here than appears from the surface. We can't say anything is ooc for anyone, because we don't know the full story here.
//When we actually start getting into the meat of this chapter's murder plot, how it happened and who was involved, as well as the last secrets, then we can start to analyze the strengths and weaknesses of my theory.
//If my theory is wrong, then it's wrong. But if I'm right, this could be an amazing trial that would rely on those themes of rebuilding trust. Especially if, like I said, Arei's goal was to help protect Eden, and unmasking herself now would threaten that goal. And for Teruko, it means having to actually put genuine trust in someone and hope they're not lying.
//Before we start considering what is or isn't setup for the next mystery, we should try and solve this one first with the tools we've got our disposal.
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perpetual-canon Ā· 2 years ago
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Perpetual Canon
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summary: This is as grand as it gets - Ace landed the gig with Gorillaz, and it's a chance of a lifetime for him. It is as clear as day - Murdoc landed himself in prison, and it's a chance for everyone to move on.
There's nothing more to it. Right?
Or: How to make sense of life when all its stories are sung at the same time?
Or all of them were part of the same song all along?
about the story: This is an AU where most of the Gorillaz insane lore is alt-reality storyline they come up for the fans & publicity stunts. The reality behind the lore is somewhat similar but not always as epic.
The timeline is a bit more sensible - in 2017-2019 (phase 5) when the story is taking place, it's been about 13 years since D day.
The story is full of creepy supernatural lore and fae laws and, no joke, is nearly 50% flashbacks.
Expect the feels, the funny, and the drama.
Ace has his ice powers, but with a twist. Same for some other characters.
Aaand, big spoilers, this is an AU where Ace is Murdocs son! But no one knows about it yet :D
This silly little idea is one of the main reasons the story exists, and so we share it in advance because we can.
Ages at the start of chapter 1: Stuart - 32,5 Russell - 31 Murdoc - 38 Noodle - almost 23 Ace - almost 22 Snake - 21,5 Big Billy - 19 Grubber - 20 Lil Arturo - almost 16
Damon Albarn & Jamie Hewlett - 40
pairings: 2doc, 2ace (one-sided), (past) Russell/Dell. This is not as dramatic as it sounds, promise :'D
pairings (that are slow burn and SPOILERS): Snake/Ace, Russell/Ace, Russell/Snake, Snake/Russell/Ace. This is the hill we built and are going to burn on, you guys are welcome to join :'DD
warnings: There will be warnings for each chapter/parts of chapters, when needed.
generally there may be: drug abuse, mentions/discussions of child abuse, discussions of trauma, suicidal ideation, unhealthy coping mechanisms.
about the format: There will be comics, short stories, text with illustrations, shitposts, basically anything that'll work for each piece. Updates will not be regular after chapter 1, but we are very much set to finish this project!
tags guide: PC!story - for the story bits PC!art - for the additional art PC!not in text but in spirit - for shitposts and inspo stuff PC!spoilers - idk, may need this one
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You may recognise the comics from couple years back, and yeah, this is doublebassstory (now with a proper name! that is also a pun, yes :'D).
The hiatus and real life got us, but the story didn't let go, it's too fun, and totally doesn't hold us at gunpoint (: So we're back at it, and the goal is to get this whole thing out, and have some fun along the way (':
Most of the story is already planned out - plot, chapters, episodes and all (g-d help us).
The links to read Perpetual Canon, and the chapter plans can all be found HERE.
Feel free to hit us with any questions you may have.
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pedroalonso Ā· 3 years ago
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i finished watching lcdp 5 andĀ 
i fucking LOVED IT, thank you.
The stuff from part 3/4 were really good in terms of the flashbacks between berlermo and the brothers and their trio as a whole, but the bank stuff back then was kind of draggy which sucked because the bank should have had the intense scenes.
But then along came part 5 volume 1 and HELLLL YES!!! The action was intense and thrilling. The stakes were high. The emotional moments were perfectly squeezed in between the scenes and they were all so potent. The ending was beautifully foreshadowed and Tokyo went out with fucking style. An absolute icon. (RIP BABYGIRL I CANT BELIEVE THEY TOOK YOU AWAY FROM ME WHEN WE WERE JUST STARTING TO GET ALONG. What injustice.)
Also, I CANā€™T BELIEVE THE GANG FINALLY UNDERSTANDS THE MEANING OF TEAM WORK??? AHHH MY HEART. MY BABIES. MY RAGTAG BUNCH OF MISFITS.
Part 5 really made me appreciate the whole gang. I realize that I have my favorites of course, but I LOVE THEM ALL, okay. ALL OF THEM.
I will say though, that as much as I love Pedro, the Berlin flashback scenes were really odd and felt out of place. Sure it was FUN, but I couldnā€™t connect it to anything that was going on in the main heist, nor did it add any emotional depth to what was happening there (unlike Tokyoā€™s flashbacks where we learned more about her character and empathized with her RIGHT BEFORE THEY KILLED HER OFF lmao)
But I said this before, I honestly donā€™t care about Berlinā€™s son, and I was hoping the flashbacks were going to make me change my mind by seeing how it affects the whole story. But it DIDNā€™T, not at all. It felt like AndrĆ©s had his own thing going on that had NOTHING to do with the bank, which sucked seeing as how his flashbacks in parts 3/4 showed that this was the heist he loved the most. This was his obra maestra. This was the heist Sergio (and to a certain degree MartĆ­n), decided to do in order to honor his memory. And seeing him running around Copenhagen with his newly introduced son and sidecharacters he barely interacted with before, supposedly POST MONASTERY, without his brother or MartĆ­n? Well. Put that on the list of TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYALS.
I am hoping though that SOMEHOW theyā€™ll tie his plot together with everything else and there will be payoff. But for now, Iā€™m afraid to say that IN A SURPRISING TURN OF EVENTS, I liked the Berlin flashbacks the least. I still enjoyed them because of Pedro, but it was definitely the weakest link in the series. Sorry mi amooor.
ANYWAY, here are some of my favorite bits:
ANY SCENE WITH PALERMO. God damn, Rodrigo de la Serna steals every scene heā€™s in. He doesnā€™t just hit the mark, he OBLITERATES IT. His expressions, his eyes, the changes in his voice. Every tiny bit of micro acting heā€™s doing absolutely adds to the moment and he just fucking NAILS IT. My god.Ā  It made me miss the energy he and Pedro had, bouncing and playing off each other in the previous season. Hoping to get a little bit of that soon before the show ends. UGHH i miss my boys
the gandia fist fight with Bogota was exactly the kind of chaos Iā€™m into yes PLEASE
Palermo/Lisboa In-Laws Slash Co-Leaders Power Duo MORE OF THAT TOO PLEASE
i really liked Monicaā€™s arc this season and I love her for shooting Arturo to near death. RIP to her but i wonā€™t feel guilty lmaoooo. Esther Acebo really brought it this season DAMN
I liked the Tokyo flashbacks bc Miguel and Ursula are both hot RIP hot people
All of the AndrƩs scenes were thankfully in character and despite hating the plot, I loved seeing him be a petty, evil, chaotic bastard
AndrƩs insisting Tokyo be in the heist was hilarious because we ALL KNOW how THAT turned out
Manilaā€™s backstory was touching!!! I didnā€™t like her trying to mess with Monver though
ALICIAā€™S LABOR LMAO I JUST -- It was also hilarious as hell ok.
Also Marsella is too sexy for his own good THERE I SAID IT
That bit when Tamayo mocked Angel by making weird noises. I was likeĀ ā€œMans has officially gone off the railsā€
The hostage escape was stressful but It WAS FUN. TEAMWORK
Sergio saying Raquel is the sexiest woman in the world but he loves her for her brains. LMAO.
That scene where Sergio apologizes to the gang for being caught and his voice started cracking when he saidĀ ā€œLo Siento Palermoā€ MAYHAPS I SCREAMED.
Tokyoā€™s death scene. Definitely just as jarring as Nairobiā€™s but as awesome as Berlinā€™s. It was a shock but it felt well done to me.
I NEED VOLUME 2 NOWWWWWWWWWWWW
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facelessfrey Ā· 3 years ago
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One other thing about this show in general that is still very much a problem this season...
I really feel like character development and relationship development is just not a priority. Most shows are able to weave in character and relationship development with the plot but Roswell seems fairly incapable of that. They get tiny little bits in here and there but it sort of feels like pulling teeth.Ā 
For example, in this episode, we got that tiny little scene between Isobel and Liz talking about Lizā€™s feelings for Max...which...duh, but it was this barely there scene. And we got two seconds of Rosa talking to Dallas that I suppose could be seen as character development but was all really vague so I donā€™t know what we were really supposed to learn there other than that she talks to a priest sometimes and hopefully that means sheā€™s taking her recovery seriously? And the only other thing in this episode was I guess Greg gushing over Maria in his fundraiser speech but because thereā€™s only a few cute scenes to back that up, itā€™s nothing more thanĀ ā€œaww thatā€™s niceā€.Ā 
And I donā€™t even feel like the plot should be taking up that much time either that these kind of scenes need to be sacrificed but I feel like so many of the plot scenes feel slow? There just always seems to be a lot of standing around talking about sciency things or what theyā€™re going to do and I feel like a lot of that could be trimmed down in place of actual action and characters scenes. I feel like even in a thirteen episode, heavy plot season, they should still be able to fit this stuff in.Ā 
Isobel should be able to have that female love interest we were promised. There should be tension there about what to tell someone new. We should see her trying to split time with alien hijinks and trying to have a relationship. IsobelĀ ā€œdating a womanā€ shouldnā€™t be reduced to one offhand line in the premiere episode about her sex life.Ā 
We should see more of Maria and Greg together and see that relationship building between them so itā€™s more than just some cute scenes and having to assume theyā€™ve spent a lot of the last year getting reacquainted. We should know how Greg fits into the group and what he knows about the plot, if heā€™s been trusted with any of the alien stuff.Ā 
We should see more of Alex and Gregā€™s relationship. That one scene we got of them talking at the drive in was lovely but it was one scene. I feel like they put that in there and goĀ ā€œjob doneā€ and call it a day. I want to see them interacting. I want to know if Greg is worried about Alex constantly disappearing. I want to know more about how theyā€™re both doing with Jesseā€™s death. We got Alexā€™s approval of Greg and Maria like it was a thing heā€™s been waiting for even though it was the first weā€™d ever heard of it. But Iā€™d love to hear Alex talking about his relationship feelings with his brother. Maybe we could have found out more about him and Forrest dating over the year gap. Maybe we could find out how he feels about the current state of him and Michael.Ā 
We should see Michael and Alex being actual friends or at least being awkward friends. It shouldnā€™t be reduced to two scenes where Alex makes veiled love confessions under the guise of protecting Michael. I want to see their relationship build before theyā€™re just back together cause theyā€™ve said enough epic things to each other at a certain point.Ā 
I still want to see Maria and Liz being actual friends. Iā€™m glad Liz is at least at her bedside but I still feel like we have more Liz and Kyle friendship scenes than weā€™ve ever had of Maria and Liz and thatā€™s just not okay. I believe more this season that they actually are friends but I still want to really see it. Give me Liz and Maria talking about Mariaā€™s feelings for Greg and maybe even addressing some of the Michael stuff from last season and how she feels about Alex and Michael possibly getting together in the future again. Let me see Liz talking to her about Max.Ā 
I still donā€™t believe Alex is really friends with Liz. That scene where they talked about Kyle was so awkward because they literally never have scenes together. I need to see them have friendship scenes. I need to know what Liz thinks of Alex and Michael. Iā€™d love to see them have a conversation about her getting in too deep with the science and him getting in too deep with looking for his answers.Ā 
I kind of hated most of the Maria and Alex scenes last season because they all felt like weird set up for the threesome, but Iā€™d be interested to see them interact now. I want to see them smooth things over in regards to Michael. We got decent friendship scenes with them in season one and I feel like they all just disappeared once Maria found out Michael was museum guy. Like give me him teasing her about Greg or her telling him to go for it with Michael because itā€™s obvious they still love each other.Ā 
Iā€™d also love to see more with the parents. I know theyā€™re adults in this version so parents are less necessary but Arturo is great and heā€™s been so sidelined this season. I wish he was suspicious of all of this alien stuff and eventually let in on the secret. Then he could thank Max for bringing Rosa back to life (and also kind of yell at them for how it happened in the first place) but at least heā€™d know how and why she was back instead of believing itā€™s just some sort of miracle or whatever they decided he should believe through Isobelā€™s mind control. But I want to see Arturo be a father figure to everyone. Just give me group scenes at the diner at the beginnings or ends of episodes where he gets to feed them all and they all get to talk like the friends and found family they are.Ā 
Iā€™d also love to see more Walt with Michael instead of just one or two scenes a season. Heā€™s part of the mythology of the show. He knew their mothers. He knows about all of the alien stuff for the most part. He should get to be more involved. Maybe he could talk to Michael about his Dictator Dad feelings. Iā€™d also love to see him with Isobel or Max or Maria. Or telling Alex he approves or something.Ā 
I feel like weā€™ve barely seen Ann Evans. She just sort of shows up once a season but I have no concept of her relationship with her children really. I wish I did.Ā 
Iā€™m sad that they just sidelined Michelle when I feel like she just never really got to be anything despite being the sheriff. She should have gotten to find out the alien secret.Ā 
Which goes back to my whole lack of tension about the alien secret in the first place because it seems like everyone already knows or it doesnā€™t matter. Why is it not a dangerous secret? I feel like the whole Rosa thing in the flashback in season one was so that they werenā€™t found out and thatā€™s why it was scary that Max healed Liz and exposed them. But then just...none of that matters. We donā€™t really get into how they feel about people knowing or any fears they might have.Ā 
I just feel like these things should be a priority for the show, to make a better show and theyā€™re just not. If they used their time better, I feel like you could fit a lot of this in. I just want more. I want better and I donā€™t think Iā€™m ever going to get it, which is a shame. Itā€™s better this season but thereā€™s still so much more they could do.Ā 
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blorbosexterminator Ā· 3 years ago
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Tbh I don't want to see anything from them post-kiss but I WOULD love to see how Berlin and Palermo met. Like I'm genuinely interested in MartĆ­ns past and whether he was a criminal before meeting Berlin (I'm taking his line about killing Arturo and his conscious already being dirty as an admission that he's straight up murdered people before)
It's unlikely that they'll shoot flashbacks so far back in the past, but a mention of their early relationship would be nice! I like the room we have as an audience to imagine the different scenarios that might have brought them together though and I'm not sure that I'd love a DEFINITE answer, you know? But like you, I am very interested in getting more information about MartĆ­n's past generally speaking, out of the all main characters, he's the one we know so little about. I was sure that we would get something this volume because of that scene in season 3 of Tamayo holding Palermo's picture and saying that the key for them to win this is to know who this man is. But either that was just one of the many useless foreshadowing scenes that went nowhere or we'll get something in volume two.
If they do intend to kill him though, I'm sure we will get some good stuff about his past the way we did with Tokyo. And I have some hope for that because it seems MartĆ­n is involved in a lot of flashbacks next volume and because of the fact that they weren't spread out in both volumes, I like to think next volume will have a lot more focus on him the same way this volume did on Tokyo.
Let's hope it's because they intend to kill him lmfao.
(and I actually think he meant Nairobi here not his general past. But I'd be very interested to hear about his past killings if there are any lmfao. Actually I'd love that for both him and AndrƩs. If they straight up killed people before I want to know lmfao.)
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lovecolibri Ā· 3 years ago
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Things that did NOT Spark Joy-3x04
Not a whole lot of salt this week which is great and a marked improvement, but there is ALWAYS something to be salty about and Iā€™m sure you can guess most of what it is, so join me in the mine, everything is well-seasoned down here! As always, good vibes are here.Ā 
WHERE IS THE MALEX CONTENT?! WHERE IS IT? (for references purposes Iā€™m still yelling like Bug!Edgar in MIB. I have yet to find a gif to suit this specific reaction need. Ironically, where is it?!)
Why is there a dog that still does not belong to Alex?! Did they learn nothing from Buffy-gate?! #Get Alex Manes A Dog 2k21 (I would not be opposed to Michael keeping Lucky and him becoming THEIR dog eventually. I AM opposed to Max getting the dog because goddamn it Alex has earned this!)
Arturo my beloved, where are you?!
I am...so confused about what the point of thatĀ ā€œtripā€ dragging out all episode was? The room with theĀ ā€œsecretsā€ only ended up telling us about 1) Isobel wanting to start a self-defense gym (could be dropped in anywhere like during a talk with Michael), 2) about Jones which the audience already knew and was a dumb way to do the reveal to m*ria given that we didnā€™t learn anything else significant during this thing so it was basically a waste of time before getting to the funeral vision, and 3) we for some reason had Louise and Roy and the baby all together which I guess was supposed to be m*ria wanting to be included with Isobel, but it wasnā€™t very clear and felt more like needing to justify having them around for the Jones flashbacks so they used them more. We didnā€™t actually confront anyĀ ā€œbigā€ secrets that couldnā€™t be addressed outside this space so, what was the point when that screen time could have gone to any myriad of other things?Ā 
I just...could not care less about m*ria feeling ā€œlonelyā€ because Isobel hasnā€™t brought her into the fold. She's hated Isobel for a decade based on nothing but something Rosa said, and then she broke up with Michael and now she's whining about how Isobel isn't hanging out with her and making her part of the family?! Sorry, Isobel's been a little busy hanging out with her brothers this past year, one of whom clearly doesn't want to see m*ria or deal with her, and one who probably sees m*ria as a reminder of Liz. So now, weā€™re back to where exactly she fits into the narrative. If they are going to pair Isobel up with Kyle and still be focusing on the Pod Squad of which 1 very much doesnā€™t seem to want to be around her (and I donā€™t think Isobel would stand for hearing the way m*riaā€™s been speaking to Michael), and if they are putting Kyle with Isobel and heā€™s with Max trying to save him, and helping Liz (who is busy with Max dying and Heath and her job and how thatā€™s going to tie into what Alex is working on), and watching out for Rosa (who has her own stuff with Wyatt going on), AND working with Michel and soon Alex on all the Deep Sky stuff, that doesnā€™t leave a lot of time for him to do anything other than doctor work for m*ria, Michael doesnā€™t want to be around her and heā€™s busy with Jones and Max and Kyle and soon to be Alex, Max has his own stuff with Jones and with Liz going on and soon that reporter lady and the racism storyline, and so unfortunately, we are stuck with the only characters available to prop her up being Alex and Greg. So not only are we not getting the space and emotions Alex should be allowed to have, we are having this friendship forced on us (although we didnā€™t have to see any of that this episode or listen to m*ria insult Michael for the umteenth time which was nice, but please stop making be dread seeing Alex please!) and now we have thisĀ ā€œoh but Iā€™m loooonely!ā€ scene thrown in to make us feel bad for her. Stop trying to make her a sympathetic character while not addressing the reason her character isnā€™t liked!Ā 
Speaking of, I see the funeral vision is still just characters making wild conjectures likeĀ ā€œItā€™s Lizā€ only to be proven wrong immediately because they are just throwing out theories without taking all the information into account. Maybe Michael needed to hear Alex say he wouldnā€™t react that way, but also someone assuring him that Alex was way to0 calm would have been a nice way to tie Alex into the story and talk about him. Why are we still not taking Alexā€™s reaction into account? You think, even if him and Kyle WERENā€™T friends, that he wouldnā€™t be upset at losing a childhood friend?Ā 
And about the vision,Ā I'm confused and struggling to see the point of this plotline. Alex as been pissed every time which he wouldn't be for Kyle or Michael, so I'm not sure if their actions actually ARE changing anything in the vision. And if it's going to happen regardless, then what is the point of spending all this time on it when we could be focusing on all the other things like Deep Sky and how Liz, and Kyle's radio connect to that, and on Jones and the alien lore. It might all be coming together at some point, but right now it just feels like they needed a way to find a place in the narrative for m*ria because c*rina never bother to give her one, but because Isobel basically has the same powers now they need something else for m*ria to do and again, itā€™s also something with Isobelā€™s mind abilities that could easily belong to her so again, m*riaā€™s character feels superfluous.Ā 
Can Alex and Michael be allowed to share a single frame on screen this season? Just let them sit next to each other at the funeral!
I think itā€™s going to tie into everything with the vision somehow but this racism plot is just too much on top of everything else. Maybe we could focus more on Lizā€™s story and how it connects to Deep Sky and how THAT connects to Kyle and Caulfield, and how Jones fits into everything, and save the Wyatt/racist golem/force m*ria into the center because we donā€™t know what else to have her do, storyline for season 4. Iā€™m just so much more interested in everything else going on. But at least it does seem tied in with everything and not totally a side plot, but Iā€™d rather have time for the other storylines we have going.
Rosa is an addict, but season 1 m*ria and Liz were totally fine smoking pot and stuff which I always thought was a Weird Choice given Lizā€™s concerns about being like her mom and sister, but now suddenly m*ria is opposed to CBD and thinkā€™s itā€™s sketchy? Girl please. (Yes Iā€™m fully aware this is aĀ ā€œlook at her over there eating her crackersā€ level of petty but that always annoyed me about season 1 and yet nowĀ m*ria has a problem so Isobel can look like the ā€œcool/funā€ friend? šŸ™„)
And now for my little nit-picky gripe. Am I the only one just like...not super impressed with them giving us Michael's supposed to growth this episode? Because it's still kind of came out of nowhere. We know he talked to Alex but we didn't hear him say anything like ā€œa good friend of mine once told meā€ which would have brought Alex into the conversation even when heā€™s not in the episode, and would show that it was something Michaelā€™s been thinking about, not just having him spout off an entirely different philosophy than he had last episode which was only like, a day ago. And how could they NOT bring up Alex when having Kyle and Michael talking about family legacies?! Or, we could have seen Michael talking things out with Max and showing heā€™s struggling by trying to absorb Alexā€™s words and change his way of thinking, or Max could have mentioned he seemed more settled and Michael could have taken that time to talk about Alex. Again, we are missing steps in the middle. Iā€™m happy to see Michael growing, but they are missing so manyĀ little, easy ways to tie Michael and Alex together in the narrative when they arenā€™t sharing scenes, and we knowĀ they can do it because they are doing it with Echo, so them NOT doing it with Malex hurts even moreĀ because itā€™s not that they canā€™tĀ itā€™s that they wonā€™t. And Iā€™m....Iā€™m just so tired. I still have faith and I know Tyler and Vlamis will give us The Most when they do interact, but like I mentioned in a comment today, thereā€™s that song lyric that saysĀ ā€œthe opposite of love is indifferenceā€ and that was the problem all last season was, unless they were in their bubble, Michael was indifferent to Alex, and now Alex seems pretty indifferent to Michael except for the one sentence where he said heā€™d burn down the world if anything happened to Michael. Talk about going from zero to 100! Even if they donā€™t see any hope or think the other doesnā€™t care about them anymore, we should see themĀ still caring, Like Liz being pissed and then quietly mentioning she was waiting for Max to come for her but he didnā€™t. We need these hints that Malex are still thinking about each other, even if right now itā€™s just sad, longing, and thinking the other doesnā€™t care. Because we the audience get to see that they both DO care and we get to sit back and call them clowns and wait for the delicious ohĀ moment when they both come to their senses. I want to see the longing! Let them yearnĀ for more than they think they can have! Even something like Michael looking at that picture of them in season one was more than weā€™re getting right now. Bring that picture back or something. Also, please let Alex have the same picture but battered from carrying it with him on his tours, and let us see it and have them talk about it! I am no longer asking.
finally, MY SWEET SON KYLE DID NOT DESERVE THIS!! I should not have to see this with my own two eyes! Someone get him a vacation package out of Roswell STAT and then maybe everyone will realize heā€™s doing The Most and will start helping out a little or at least not make his life even harder.
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1moreff-creator Ā· 1 year ago
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#WHY IS THERE ANOTHER NONSENSICAL CHARACTER ORDER.#I ALREADY PULLED CHARACTER CREATION ORDER OUT OF THIN AIR I GOT NOTHING HERE (<- prev tags)
Alright before you freak out I don't think this order is as nonsensical as the cast list lol. I think it's just to build a narrative when you read the quotes in order, so I hope you don't mind if I ramble about it a bit because I love being a nerd about writing and DRDT!
So you start with Teruko because:
Teruko:Ā Some years ago, she was searching for someone named ā€˜Teruko Tawaki.ā€™
It's the one line that talks about Mai's past, and also you want to inflict as much psychological damage as early as possible!
This line haunts me.
But also protag privilege. Of course she's first.
After that, you have a bunch of quotes that establish who Mai is as a person, an introduction basically.
Charles: A girl who loves her family. Rose:Ā She remembers everything that is important to others. Arturo:Ā A girl who sees the beauty in everyone. Levi:Ā A girl with a floral tattoo on her arm.
The exact order is probably unimportant, but it's nice the recap duos of Charles & Teruko and Levi & Arturo stick together, as well as the Memory Duo of Charles and Rose.
From there you have a few lines explaining her relationship with the rest of the cast.
Whit:Ā A girl with many friends.
Here's the man of the hour, establishing first and foremost that Mai had friends, which works as a set up for the following lines:
Eden:Ā She kept calling the number, even though no one picked it up. J:Ā She kept it a secret, and told no one. Hu:Ā A girl who wanted to keep everyone safe. Nico:Ā Everyone confided in her.
Eden's line is still as confusing as ever-
what the fuck does that mean eden please i am begging you on my hands and knees what the fuck are you talking about
-but it can be read as "she's very patient with her friends." J and Nico bring up her tendency to keep secrets, and Hu establishes she wanted to keep everyone safe. You might notice they're starting to get a bit more ominous as they go on, starting to talk in the past tense. Building up to:
Ace:Ā A girl who had a bright future.
Apart from the recap duo of Nico & Ace staying together, we reach the point where we start seeing something went deeply wrong. We started with one line about her past, then moved on to talking about how she was during Hope's Peak time, and now in theory we talk about what happens in the last stage of her life (not confirmed dead but come on).
Arei:Ā She doesnā€™t like it when her friends fight. Min:Ā An average girl with nothing special at all about her. Xander:Ā She couldnā€™t stand to do nothing. Veronika:Ā A girl who didnā€™t foresee the consequences.
I say we talk about her last moments in theory because Arei's and Min's placements have always confused me a bit. Xander is very clearly talking about whatever he and Mai were doing together, and Veronika can thus be inferred to be talking about the consequences of said thing. So are Arei's and Min's lines also related?
I've always had the mini-theory that Min pushed against the HPA Operation Xander and Mai had going on, and that's why she seems so insistent Mai didn't have anything special at all about her. She angy at her girlfriend. If that's the case, then Arei is referencing Min and Mai/Xander's disagreement on this. Also Min & Xander recap duo.
But again, that's a pretty out there theory based on very little except this, and my hope that we'll get a flashback at the end which will heavily feature Min. Please?
In any case, this all leads to the climax:
David:Ā She forgives everyone. MonoTV:Ā Itā€™s all your fault.
Naturally Protag Foilman David gets to be the last of the participants, opposite of Teruko and giving out a horrendously ominous line given the placement. The idea that Mai forgives everyone also serves as nice contrast to MonoTV blaming Teruko someone for Mai's death something.
Hope that made some sense! I've wanted to ramble about that for a while now, you just gave me an excuse lol.
Okay I noticed this recently and it's been bugging me. It's nothing important, but it's slightly inconveniencing me.
So you know the list of favorite and least favorite colors the dev gave us in the latest Q&A?
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(Order: Teruko - Charles - Whit - Rose - Arturo - Levi - Eden - J - Hu - Nico - Ace - Arei - Min - Xander - Veronika - David)
Well, turns out the characters are actually listed in the order their quotes appear in the source code of Mai's page (and allow me to momentarily ignore the implication that this order has not been forgotten and is therefore important to an extent):
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(The order I'm referring to is Teruko - Charles - Rose - Arturo - Levi - Whit - Eden - J - Hu - Nico - Ace - Arei - Min - Xander - Veronika - David - MonoTV)
Except, for some ungodly reason, Whit. Who has moved from in between Levi and Eden, all the way to right after Charles.
Why? Why would dev do this? To annoy me, personally?
Am I supposed to assume Whit has the power to change text from beyond the fourth wall, and he uses this universe-shattering power just so his name can be closer to Charles? Cause he likes him? Is this the power of the Ultimate Matchmaker at play? Is he a Monika DDLC kinnie? What is this?
This also happens for the ice cream flavors btw, except here Ace is also somewhere else. But at least he has the excuse that he didn't say an ice cream, so it's at the bottom for comedic effect.
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This implies the Mai Akasaki order can be broken for at least two reasons:
To further the Charwhit agenda.
To dunk on Ace Markey.
Why though.
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achubbydumpling Ā· 3 years ago
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Alright, I just finished Destroyer (2018) and a bottle of wine and I have some thoughts about this movie and lots of thots about Chris. Why am I writing this? Why not! I love reading other people's opinions, so here are mine.
Let's get into it!
(if you just want ~800 words of chubby kink brain rot skip to the +++ under the cut)
Thoughts and semi-serious movie review
(I don't know nothing about movies, so this is very subjective, but I'd love to hear your opinions, if you disagree with anything or just have something to add)
First, I went into this film completely blind. I had no idea what this film was about, I only knew that Seb was in it.
It starts off promising. Alcoholic detective who knows more than she lets on, an unidentified body and an old antagonist from our detectives past reappears. Plot is being set up, we get to know Erin, the story advances at a good pace and then 15 minutes in everything grinds to a halt.
The movie is very good at building tension, but has trouble reaching satisfying conclusions. Almost every scene just fizzles out into an anticlimactic or abrupt end. The characters seem static, with no real development apart from a few pieces sprinkles throughout, which makes emotional scenes feel unearned.
The movie drags on through it's 2h runtime. By the end I was honestly wishing for Erin to just die already, which probably wasnā€™t the intention with this character-driven film. Weā€™re told that she is consumed by anger, but to me she just seemed bored most of the time. Like she was trudging from plot point to plot point.
Most of the characters in this movie felt like less than side characters, even Chris, whoā€™s death is the inciting incident for Erin wanting to get revenge on Silas. Arturo was the only other character that stood out to me, but he only really got to shine in the Russian Roulette scene.
The flashback scene at the end was probably the best part of the movie. Not just because we finally got to see Chris for a bit longer, but because Erin finally has someone to play off of and even though she still seems quite stiff in her acting, this is in my opinion her best performance in the movie. 2/5 stars
"omg Sebastian Stan is so hot in this movie"-review
And now let's talk about Seb's look in this movie, because damn does he look good. Stuff I liked in no particular order:
the beard in the flash backs
the shaved head in the less far back flash backs
smoking. doing drugs! cocaine!!
rings
fake dating?? yes please (giving me ideas)
Seb's fucking silent movie acting, hmm jaw clenching and intense staring (his line delivery wasn't the best in this, but it might've been the phrasing)
"Nice ass." "It's all yours."
the grey sweater
rings
Chris' body language being all loose and open, going with where Erin pulls him, draped all over her back, arm around her waist
hnng Erin pulling down the big sweater and showing of his chest-shoulder-collarbone
+++ (weight gain, belly kink and more feedist nonsense from here on out) +++
that shirt is pretty big on him though, isn't it?
and his jeans are way too loose as well, "Nice ass"?, yeah, it'll be real nice with about fifty more pounds on him, when those jeans look painted on
he could maybe hide his double chin under the beard, but his love handles would be peeking out under the hem of that grey sweater, his belly creasing his waist band where it hangs over it, his lower belly hanging out as soon as he moves his arms and he constantly has to pull his shirt down, otherwise it works its way up until the entire spare tire around his hips is on display
idk if everyone is just short, but Seb looks so tall in this movie, imagine he's so tall that he starts out at 230lbs looking jacked, all brawn, functional strength, low insertion muscles, all stretched out, y'know?
and then he packs on weight, still working, still moving, but putting half the time he used to spend exercises, into eating, he eats what you put in front of him and then some
it's not like it's a burden, eating until he's full and then pushing himself a bit further, but your encouragement and the obvious lust on your face whenever you watch him eat, is an added bonus
when Erin suggests he steal the money with her, he refuses, he's got you and you'd never ask him to risk his life on the off-chance that you might be able to pull this off, so he gets out, back to being an FBI agent, back to you, and finally back to eating what he wants
ohhh he'd thought when you first explained to him how you liked bigger guys that he'd be doing this just for you, settling down, putting on a few pounds, it was probably inevitable anyway, but once you started, once he actually gained weight, he liked it, he really liked it
Chris caught himself sneaking his hand under his sweater to play with the tiny bit of fat that was starting to hang over his waistband
he'd always been confident, but feeling heavier made him feel more powerful, instead of rushing everywhere he took his time, long, unbroken strides, nothing could shake him
he was an excellent fighter, not easily swayed, but they take him out of the field when he gains more weight, he gets out, gets a job as private security instead and keeps gaining
300lbs and he's finally getting a real belly, but you could still see some muscles moving under his ribs when you trailed your fingers over them, he's tall, so all the weight has lots of places to settle
350lbs and his legs are straining aganist his jeans, the fabric between his legs thinning from the constant friction, looking at him you'd guess he was 250lbs, maybe 280lbs
but you didn't care too much about him looking smaller than he was, because when he got on top of you and let you feel all the weight you'd put on him, how heavy he was and you were just struggling to catch your breath with 350lbs of absolute beef cake on top of you, you couldn't really form a single coherent thought
it didn't take long for him to reach 400lbs, and you were all over it, you kept him pinned to the couch by the weight of his stuffed belly every night, riding one of his thick thighs until he'd finally digested just enough, that he could think about anything besides the dull ache in his stomach, you could see his eyes lose some of that hazy fog, his body going from boneless exhaustion to pressing his thigh up into you, matching your rhythm
as much as you loved Chris weighing you down, you had learned the positive sides of being on top of him over the last 50lbs he's gained, he was an impressive man, quietly commanding every room he was in, but you could make him fall apart, come undone beneath you and make him give up all this control
he didn't just do it for you, when you saw his eyes flutter shut and his jaw work to deal with all those overwhelming sensations, you could see him get lost in it, going elsewhere and yet giving himself up even more completely to you
he'd beg for you to touch him, to fuck him, to "please make me come, baby", even though he could easily take all that he wanted from you, he only ever asked for it and how happily you gave it all to him
lotsa text, but he's just too hot in this movie, like you can just imagine undressing him and finding a nice little belly under all those baggy clothes
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roccinan Ā· 3 years ago
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Finally finished S5 vol. 1! Hereā€™s a quick rundown of my thoughts if anyoneā€™s curious:
I felt kinda betrayed by the Andres flashbacks because I kept paying attention to them expecting some kind of connection to the main plot. And there just wasnā€™t LOL. I can only hope that Rafael will do something extremely helpful for everyone else in vol. 2. Tatiana still doesnā€™t have a personality?? I was looking forward to her smh. Andres was idk, trying too hard to act like himself but the whole flashback just felt like a VR game or something where you play as Rafael and Andres is your father for some reason, and he has the same dialogue for every player.Ā 
That said, the flashback heist itself was fun to watch. It was just bizarre seeing it in the middle of the bank heist for no reason. @ alex pina, you could have just removed all of it and cut it together into a side-story for release next month. Youā€™re welcome for that brilliant marketing idea!
I still donā€™t see the relevance of berlinito? They could have completely replaced him with Sergio in the flashback or just had Tatiana be Andresā€™ partner. Just not a fan of this subplot. Even weirder is how it looks like Andres is actively trying to get his wife and son together- why would you do that and then act betrayed later??Ā 
That said, the 2-min flashback of Sergio and Andres in the last ep. was objectively superior to all of the above and the only scene where Andres actually felt like himself instead of some NPC.
ANYWAY, the bank heist!! Not a lot to say because overall I was pleased. It was fun, intense, and emotional, and everyone played really well off everyone else (for the most part lol). As an ensemble and as a whole, I loved it. I just didnā€™t like the individual bits and pieces, like-
Was expecting to see more negotiation on Raquelā€™s part. Martin didnā€™t really have the chance to be unhinged, like the writers were purposely pushing him to the side whenever a situation could use his craziness. I felt like Monicaā€™s reactions were realistic (even though I was likeĀ ā€œseriously!?ā€ when they tried to save Arturo) but the execution was very awkward.
Please donā€™t cancel me, but I honestly forgot Helsinki and Palermo were together until they mentioned future dates asdfasdf. Maybe because I started shipping Bogota and Martin halfway through ep. 1- these two honestly had a lot Chemistry to me!? Is it just me :ā€™D Like, they seemed to mesh very well to me. Iā€™m sorry but I wish Bogota/Palermo was canon insteadĀ 
Speaking of Helsinki, I was hoping to see more of him! Was legit so scared when that happened to him. And hmm, personally I thought that Martin wasnā€™t angry enough at the people who threw the grenade. He worried for a couple scenes, and then went on being perfectly calm. which isnā€™t that big a deal, but really man? You kept trying to punish your own teammates last season but you donā€™t hold grudges against this? I wanted to see him go Feral and avenge Helsinki by blowing up someone elseā€™s leg.Ā 
I was hoping to see more Nairobi too :ā€™) And so unfair that Oslo didnā€™t get a spotlight flashback asdfasf
Aliciaā€™s water breaking arc worked better than I expected, so no complaints there! Not sure how I feel about them pairing her with Marseille(?) but itā€™s not something Iā€™d complain about, I guess. The Manila-Stockholm-Denver triangle though... I did feel for it, but I was also like,Ā ā€œManila read the room.ā€ Monver are not breaking apart but I have a feeling Denver might die next volume
Lastly, Tokyoā€™s arc was beautiful. Everything I wanted for her and more. The surprise-twist Berlin parallel. The flashbacks to her ex-boyfriend. How she fell in love with Rio. Her love for her found family. How she went out so gracefully but so epically. Cannot think of a more Tokyo way to go :ā€™D I donā€™t tear up often, but Tokyoā€™s death really made me feel. Iā€™m still really shook over it. She was my favorite female character and top favs- I loved her, flaws and fucked up choices and all since the beginning, so her death really really got me. But it was so beautiful that I wouldnā€™t change a thing :ā€™)
OK one last complaint: those Suicide Squad TM military special forces were so overhyped. youā€™d think with those introductions, they would be this elite amazing squad and they were just some guys in the end. Also miffed that they got the wholeĀ ā€œthese are UnHinGed criminals!!ā€ intro. when that was supposed to be the angle on the banda from the outside. It just felt like they were shoehorned in there to make the banda look like sane, clean heroes by comparison. S1/2 Berlin could have taken on every member of thatĀ ā€œeliteā€ squad by himself and won, okay. These guys werenā€™t even asĀ ā€œdangerousā€ as regular olā€™ Suarez and co.
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lambourngb Ā· 5 years ago
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Post finale thoughts: I watched live, I never do that since I am usually spending time with my partner on Monday nights, and he doesnā€™t watch the show. I pulled the ā€˜it was just my birthday during the plague cardā€™ and won. (Or lost?? hahaha) Anyway. Long rambling thoughts under the break.
Itā€™s like they heard my complaints about the pacing of 2x11 and 2x12, and said ā€œhold my beerā€ for 2x13. So much happened, and happened so fast, I could barely get invested or get mad about it. Is that a victory?Ā  Are we not allowed to sit and breathe in any of the emotionally destroying scenes?
I listened to malex shippers through this season say ā€œdonā€™t worry, Miluca is breaking up in the finaleā€ and I kept shaking my head going, ā€œNo? Like they seem solid? They really care about each other?ā€ and then it actually happened- immediately after an ā€œI love youā€ exchange no-less... and Iā€™m like, what the hell? Donā€™t get me wrong, Iā€™m happy thatā€™s over but it still felt emotionally empty. But no time for that feeling because thereā€™s more to go---
I absolutely loved the 1947 stories though, and now I wonder about Tripp. He really loved Nora. How did he survive watching her pace the cage in Caulfield? Pre-season 2 I was very meh about the flashbacks because I had enough to feast with the main cast, but now, I take it all back. I would have loved more of ā€˜47 and less of the Stef storyline. I want to know how long that skeleton was there. Do we have only Jesseā€™s word that Tripp was an old man in 1987? Does Arturo remember him? Also Harlan is a moron because a body under a wooden floor would have had some significant decomp smells for weeks and months. I guess no one walked by the shed while that was going on....
ETA: Okay Alex told Michael when the shed was built by Harlan when he was 70, so what year was that ? Tripp was alive in 1987 according to Jesse but I still donā€™t trust anything Jesse said about Tripp being factual since he was only sharing that to manipulate Alex into trusting him (and somehow getting the ship piece from Michael). I want to like Tripp but....yeah.Ā 
Liz- I love her and still do, but I was rather waiting for the hubris of science experiments to come into play and I felt rather robbed it didnā€™t materialize, that the conflicts between her and Max were very set in the relationship dynamic? Wanting to know who she was outside of him? Lots of build up over ethics and exposure, but then it came down to it, it was boundaries and preservation of self while in a soulmate relationship....Though if anyone studies Stef and her recovery too closely, that hubris card will still be in play.
Other things I was looking forward to and was left a little empty by- Jesse Manes dying. It was... very quick and I could barely enjoy the moment. I will have to re-watch the town gossip scenes to figure out how a veteran getting shot during a fire is dying a hero? Was Michelle Valenti just so happy Jesse was dead, she didnā€™t investigate the discharge of a firearm? Again, Iā€™m happy heā€™s dead although it was something I didnā€™t anticipate happening with how the show was trending toward redemption messages. Jesse was a lost cause, but Flint is not? Both radicalized young but one you still have time to save? Okay.Ā 
I absolutely loved the shed scene. Michael going for the hammer, Alex still flinching a bit away from it, before he is reassured by Michael? I could have lived in that scene. Maria sending Michael with food- what a choice, bringing a casserole to the family of the man who killed yours- I loved that growth for Michael. He showed up for Alex and for Gregory. Good god I would have loved the look on Gregā€™s face when Michael shoved a dish in his hands, ā€œthanks for killing him but also I really wanted to do that myself, here have this meatloaf?ā€
As for the song and the ending Malex scene, I enjoyed it. I didnā€™t want Michael hopping from one relationship to another, so I get why he didnā€™t immediately drop to his knees with a marriage proposal. I do wish he had stayed in the bar, listened to the song, let Alex know that he was still working on meeting him halfway.
And the Forrest stuff? So I dunno if this is unpopular or what, but I do not ship it for the same reasons I never shipped Maria and Michael. I am an OTP diehard, cosmic soulmates or bust. I blacklisted Forlex last October once his name was released and have no intentions of whitelisting it. With the departure of Jesse, thereā€™s room for a reoccurring guest star, and as much as I would love Gregory Manes stepping in, I am pretty sure those minutes are going to go to Forrest in S3. My pre-season 2 thoughts were, ā€œokay they can both date other people at the same time and move back together when the time is rightā€ and now itā€™s shaping up to be another round of ā€œwatch one date and the other be aloneā€ ? Do not want. I didnā€™t like it with Alex, and I donā€™t like it with Michael.
Also some of the discourse around that final scene- the whole ā€œgood itā€™s time for Michael to pineā€ or ā€œMake Michael stew in jealousyā€ - makes me intensely uncomfortable and itā€™s directly counter to what Alex wrote in his song- he doesnā€™t want to keep score anymore with Michael. So can we just stop with that idea that Michael needs to be punished while he sits on the sidelines during this whole Alex dates Forrest thing? I get why people want it, because thatā€™s how fandom saw Alex while Maria and Michael dated but itā€™s not what the character Alex Manes wants?
Anyway, still have no idea what this show is supposed to be about. Is it cosmic soul mates with alien imprinting? Is it you can love many people at the same time? Is it have fun with someone else until you settle down forever?
Final thought- Listen, I can write a fixit with a dead girl coming back to life and Noah getting flambĆ©ed. That fit very nicely with a crime story/investigation frame. What am I supposed to do with clone (?) Max? Or Maxā€™s dad? How am I supposed to make that make sense?
Staring down the barrel of a long hiatus with the carrot of ā€œhappier and lighter Malexā€ in s3 held out in front again, with the whole promise that Carina wants Malexā€™s reunion to be emotionally earned.... and 2x13 is littered with unearned plot resolutions. So. Still a clown I guess. Still here.
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