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i keep seeing so much content of sanji being raised by a warlord and brought to the meetings and desperately need more abt that. depends on who his parents is, but what are his relationships with the other warlords in one of these aus? how many recognize him, how many are still fond of him, how many turn a blind eye to the boy who used to pester them as a child?
come to think about it- is it possible to have an au where sanji is raised by all of the warlords at once? i have no idea how this would happen, but sanji is just. passed between warlords like a child of divorced parents (fuck he would have to grow up with croc AND mingo oh dear). all of them end up getting attached to him and are conflicted when he becomes a strawhat pirate. his crew mostly just want answers on how all these powerful enemies clearly know their cook, who keeps dodging all their questions cause he doesnt want to face the backlash of the warlords' collective ward becoming an enemy of the wg
So I'm going to answer this ask in two parts because that's so funny. I'm going to skip Donquixote!Sanji just because he has the most interaction and detail in regards to Warlord meetings and Dad!Mihawk never brought Sanji nor did Boa. So unfortunate they don't get time to shine.
1. How the warlords react to a kid being the meetings.
With Fishman!Sanji everyone thinks he's cute and quiet and his snacks are so good. Doffy uses this Sanji to try to sway Crocodile into kidnapping a child with him. Crocodile is just "anything raised by you won't make it to twenty, no." Boa thinks Fishman!Sanji is fine. He thinks she's pretty and says it but Sanji is more interested in the libraries and Marines than anyone there. Crocodile absently pats Sanji as he passes where as Doffy holds him to the sky and Boa is like "ew" for the most part. Gecko Moria is probably disinterested in all of the Sanjis and will avoid him. Perona is interested though and will play with Sanji when she's there too. Mihawk will actually smile at the boy and talk to him about cooking and will bring a bento for the boy sometimes. Kuma doesn't have his humanity so.................................
Croc!Sanji basically says hi to everyone and then reads quietly. Mentions every once in a while how dumb or inefficient something is. If Doffy comes at him he runs for it. The first time Sanji comes to a warlord meeting in a dress or whatever Boa is like "is he making fun of woman?" And Croc is like "my son has no gender" which makes Boa take him shopping properly. Mihawk and Jinbei will leave cook books or something. Perona does Sanji's make up whenever he's in a dress.
Perona stands in for Gecko Moria I feel like. He just seems more interested in zombies than children. Which, I get. Big Sister Perona comes in when she's old enough.
Readmore for divorced polycule parenting. It does get to marineford,
2. The Warlords(Except Kuma, for obvious reasons) all co parent Sanji. Let's start with which warlord finds Sanji!
I am screaming. OH NO! Mihawk showing up to a warlord meeting, holding a child and apologizing for his delay? Doffy asks what that thing he's holding is and Mihawk is like this my son, Sanji. Everyone is staring at him. Boa asks what the fuck he's doing with a kid.
Mihawk explains he got Sanji and Redleg off a rock and Sanji went with him and the kid is like ten and so small. Doffy somehow cajoles Sanji to be held by him despite his fear and it's like a whole thing and Mihawk is amazed because he's been bitten so hard it draws blood. Everyone is amazed. Crocodile is genuinely concerned about the fucking man holding this kid who is maybe a tenth his size at best. He even gets Sanji calmed down more by moving his coat enough to hide Sanji in it while he holds him.
After the meeting Sanji is properly introduced to all who care, even if Boa is a bit standoffish. Crocodile asks if he'll be a regular attendee to the meetings and Mihawk says yes because he doesn't want to leave Sanji alone on Kuriagana with the humandrills. Jinbei asks Sanji a few questions which they all attentively listen to the answers of. Sanji stutters out about opening a restaurant on the All Blue and being the first to find it.
The next meeting Sanji is gifted cookbooks by the other four warlords and Sanji thanks them quietly with tears in his eyes and ohhh they were not expecting that. Nope.
"What the hell, kid? You can't expect us to believe Mihawk is the first person to be nice to you." Crocodile puffs on his cigar and when Sanji doesn't answer Boa grabs Sanji and holds him for the meeting. Afterwards Doffy uses his strings to take Sanji around. Mihawk is frowning the entire time as Boa tries to turn Doffy to stone and Jinbei tells her not to do that for Sanji's safety. Crocodile manages to lure Doffy back with the promise of a meal.
The next meeting Mihawk has to go on a job that will take a few weeks and he doesn't want to take Sanji so Crocodile offers to take him to Alabasta and return him at the next warlord meeting. So Sanji goes with him and at the next meeting Daz and Bon Clay are there and Bon Clay is explaining to Mihawk and Boa that Sanji isn't just a boy. Boa squeals in delight and after the meeting she and Mihawk take Sanji shopping. Sanji is confused because it was just something he thought he could only do in Alabasta but Mihawk is like "Why would I do anything to stop you from being happy?" And Boa is so happy because she has new little person to spoil with fine dresses and stuff and Mihawk is trying to explain that Sanji is training physically and Boa is like "AND???? LET ME SPOIL THEM MIHAWK!!"
The next time Doffy takes them despite Crocodile and Jinbei saying he shouldn't but Doffy just flips them off and basically kidnaps the kid. Sanji comes back with three carton of cigarettes, fifteen bentos and looks like he hasn't bathed in a week despite Doffy and Sanji saying that they just took a bath. Everyone is looking at Sanji and the cigarettes and Sanji is like "Doffy's family gave them to me as a going away present. Baby 5 kept hitting me."
"You gotta hit her back!"
"That isn't appropriate let alone with their trauma." Jinbei says.
"We'll train them." Boa proclaims proudly.
"Oh no." Mihawk whispers to himself.
Jinbei takes him next because everyone but him is on a job and Sanji is marveling at everything in Fishman island and excitedly tells everyone when the next meeting happens. At this point they all stay after the meetings to hang out with the kid and if they're staying the night to get breakfast together. But it's weird for the marines to see the Warlords, some of the most feared pirates on the seas be sweet to this kid.
Boa gets Sanji last. Sanji comes back with so many dresses and skirts some make up and their hair styled. Doffy picks them up and proclaims them as "Cute" while displaying Sanji to the marines around them. Jinbei laughs in agreement. Mihawk is pinching the bridge of his nose and practicing his breathing techniques. Thus begins the rotation because Sanji is just being passed around by the warlords because they all went to spend time with Sanji equally.
Perona eventually finds out about this but instead spends the weeks Sanji is with Mihawk with them and enjoying her time on Kuriagana. She and Sanji play dress up. Sanji cooks all the time too. Perona talks about zombies and Mihawk listens. They all paint nails and Mihawk says they should be doing this on Amazon Lily and not Kuriagana. Both Sanji and Perona stick their tongues out at the man.
Sanji still has set backs and the warlords will have calls to check in on Sanji. Like it is insane how caring they all are for this kid. Sanji's ptsd with bugs? Doffy has someone whip an anti bug cream. Nightmares? Jinbei will tell him stories and teach him some techniques to calm down. Mihawk explains haki and how to hide and use it to his advantage. Crocodile teaches him all about finances and shit. When Sanji is dysphoric Mama Boa is all about taking them out and spoiling them and just affirming their gender and will let the others know.
Sanji is suddenly calling four men variations of "dad" and Boa is "mom" and being taught multiple different fighting styles, languages, and is working on his haki. And when he starts at the Baratie all the Warlords will come visit him and on his birthday? It's a mad house. It's insane and Zeff, Patty, and Carne are looking at the guy calling five different warlords 'Dad', 'Papa', 'Papi', 'Mama', 'Pops' and just watching them cater to the eggplant as if he's so good and when Sanji tells them Zeff won't let them berate women for incidents with food wastage Doffy brings Baby 5 and Perona to Baratie and Sanji fears for his fucking life because this is a no win situation.
When Sanji joins the Strawhat crew on the phone with Crocodile in Little Garden he disguises his voice to the best of his abilities and it doesn't really fool the man who since he knows what's going thanks to Robin being at Whiskey Peak. Crocodile calls the other parents and is like "Guess what our child is doing" Mihawk mentions he let the greenhaired one live when he was at Baratie. Boa screams that Mihawk is dumb and suddenly everyone on the call is yelling at each other except Jinbei who is laughing his fucking ass off.
In Impel Down Crocodile Jinbei obviously convinces Luffy to get Crocodile out and when they're all at Marineford Jinbei yells to the other warlords that Luffy is Sanji's captain, Ace is Luffy's brother, and Sanji is missing thanks to Kuma. Mihawk asks if that's why Roronoa is at Kuriagana.
"Probably, so change of plans?" Crocodile asks.
"Change of plans." Doffy nods.
"Boa, you do know Luffy is seventeen, correct?" Jinbei asks her and she's frowning.
"No, I don't read the paper."
"WOMAN YOU ARE LITERALLY A QUEEN NOW LET'S DO THIS BEFORE EVERYONE GETS KILLED!" Crocodile yells and suddenly there's two extra warlords helping in the fight and the Marines are like 'fuck' and Ace and Luffy are confused because no one has mentioned this. At all. So the Warlords take over the fight to get the fleet. Jinbei gets Ace and Luffy out and promises to explain when the other's join them even if they're fading in and out from everything that happened and both of them still taking lava punches.
Shanks shows up and ends the war and finds out on the television that five warlords, two of which were in Impel Down started fighting with Luffy to save Ace and he still ends the war. When he asks them about it they just go "He's our child's captain." Shanks and Buggy are blinking at them confused because what the fuck.
#black leg sanji#vinsmoke sanji#dracule mihawk#jinbei#jimbei#sir crocodile#boa hancock#donquixote doflamingo#warlord!sanji#answers#perona#fishman!sanji#croc!sanji
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I've been a longtime kagepro fan but I feel like u understand the actual lore details better than me so I gotta ask HOW THE HELL DID KONOHA END UP IN HIBIYA AND HIYORIS DAZE ? konohas state of the world is one of my fave songs from the entire series but I've never understood that part and I'm really hoping u do 😭
you know i was gonna write a post abt this a few days ago cause i was thinking about it. this is frankly, probably the one thing or one of the few things i genuinely CANNOT understand. i seriously just have no fucking clue how konoha gets trapped in it with them. basically, i personally headcanon the daze sort of "glitched" both because konoha is there and because hibiya and hiyori's wishes were overlapping.
hibiya and hiyori's timeloop happens because they both fit the wish/eye ability of focusing eyes, so the daze has a difficult time choosing which one to let live, from my understanding at least. it finally decides when hibiya sacrifices himself. in second manga route, hiyori gets it though. so they both fit it. which is. funny. because every ability is related to a wish, and the daze chooses who survives based on wishes fitting an eye ability, for example kido wanting to disappear from the kido mansion, then gets concealing eyes, or kano wanting to hide his mother's abuse, getting deceiving eyes. but hibiya and hiyori FROM WHAT I KNOW don't even HAVE canon wishes like these.
like we dont actually KNOW why they both fit focusing eyes, it's probably because they wanted "to find each other" in that very specific moment rather than a general wish. so, konoha wanting to save them/also find them, is ALSO fitting this wish which is how he gets swallowed by the daze right then too. since konoha is literally just awakening eyes, it wasn't recognized as a person so that's why the 3 of them get inside the daze together (even though in manga route 2, ayano and her parents also enter the daze together. ugh. i hate second manga route it's so fucking stupid). and since it's a snake, it technically can't have a wish (even though it does end up getting one in the good end), so "he can just stand there and watch" as hibiya puts it, angry konoha never actually helped during the loop. so we know konoha was there, hibiya and hiyori knew he was there, he just literally could not do anything even though he tried.
sorry i couldn't actually explain it, maybe i'm wrong and i just didn't understand it well. but i think generally, hibiya and hiyori's whole thing is pretty much the most unclear and messiest part of the story or the one that has the most "plot holes" (right behind it, haruka/takane/ayano's aug 15 follows with the weird ass plot holes. but i also have my hcs for that one lol)
it's one of those things that really reminds you kagerou project was A PROJECT, and jin was seriously writing as he went. this is why i like calling it a clump story. jin had many characters in mind and generally did a pretty good job linking them all together, but with hibiya and hiyori, they feel a lot more disjointed from the story. like hibiya isn't even related in any way to ANYONE, only to hiyori, who is only related to the group because she's a side characters' secret little sister. then they get related to konoha, who's entire existence also requires some prior understanding (even today i'd say some fans don't know konoha =/= haruka) so it's like... a Reach. i feel like jin had the good idea to write the plot for the kagerou daze song and then had a really hard time actually fitting it into the story he ended up polishing.
#ask tag#kagexplain#not really. i didnt explain shit i think. but whatever im putting it in that tag
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Do you have any favourite ships? Any media you're interested in or just duo that you enjoy the dynamic of!!
Ok I barely join some popular media they're more like the quiet ones sooo
So uhh Napolington -
I usually stick to one ship in a fandom and call it a day,but in the end Love is love and as long as it's not really problematic I'm fine,Like when I first joined the Napoleonic fandom I stayed with my pairs till this day and those pairs were..(It may be in order)
And these pairs were pure gambles :D aka
I assumed relationships in FANART😨😨😨(Thank you Amino)
•Napoleonic
-Lannes&Ney:I feel like this Pair isn't talk ABT often😔😔😔My only history with them is that they're the first Marshals I found and paired
-Bessimu:Ill tell you a silly story of how I may have shipped them but I like their contradicting personalities!(they're literally the "inside you are two wolves" meme)
....uhhh ok after some thoughts this ship is sort of my guilty pleasure.Like it's literally corroding my brain
-Massoult:OK GUYS HEAR ME OUT-
ok but genuinely I was relieved knowing they're relationship was pretty good (yk more support to the ship rather than just saying they both liked looting-)The letter from Massena also helped and I like imagining them interacting in my head which IM NOT TELLING YOU OR I WILL GET TAKEN TO THE PYSCHE WARD/but genuinely every knew irl or fannon interaction thats positive makes genuinely ecstatic and full of Dopamine(overall I like a tired grumpy man with a...tired...and old man idk)
-I have more actually it's just that I can't explain all since they did say"Media"so my generals but Classical music ig is next
{A ship I feel like my reasoning should just be kept since I'm on thin ice with this is Bethomoz,thank youu}
•Choliszt:Classic, literally unrequited love,I feel bad for Liszt ngl he seemed so genuinely sweet to Chopin (irl)and Chopin is just annoyed(from what I read)this is also the next ship you'll see in the fandom
Berlix- I heard somewhere Berlioz just casually calls Mendelssohn "Love" or something like that overall they seem quite nice for eachother that's all
Prokshos:I love them SM (Rns_williams drop another Prokshos fic and MY LIFE IS YOURS/SRS)I love the escalation from admiration to rivalry between them and even in the end Shosty still cared for Prokofiev:)
{Some rarepairs}
Vivaldi&Bach:They seem honestly so sweet for eachother.Bach's admiration for Vivaldi was so big he transcribed a handful of his concertos (And I think transcription is like a compliment since your spreading the work of an artist you think is great)Oh and look! They're blue and red what a twist
Paganini& Vivaldi: Literally those "AngelxDevil" gacha trope, They're also both Italians and from what I read Vivaldi was considered a Virtuoso before Paganini came in,Id like to see more stuff ABT them
Paganini &Mozart:Mostly a twist thing I genuinely don't hold that much love for it but I do find them funny and silly!
-Some other pairs(Pairs that I don't really think ABT but still pairs)
•Alberose(Genshin)
•Saintpierre(Frev)
•Saintmoulins(Frev)
•Robesmoulins(Frev)
•Madohomu(Madoka Magica)
•Zhongven(Genshin)
•Gakukai(Vocaloid)
•Skk(BSD)
•Shin Skk(BSD)
Anyways thats maybe all I can cram:,)✧・゚:❀✧・゚✧・゚:❀✧・゚Thank you to whoever asked ABT this!Maybe we can even talk further if anyone who saw this happened to have something to say!!!🌸🍓🫶🫶
-yours truly
Oh once again I'm sorry for unorganised and probably worng wording so if you want clarification pls tell me😭😭😭😭I'm scared I got something misunderstood
(ANYWAYS WHAT A TRIP THAT WAS AMIRIGHT????){pls laugh/j}
#napoleonic era#napoleonic shitpost#classical composers#frev#fandom ships#saintspierre#bessimu#massoult#michel ney#jean lannes#napoleon’s marshals#joachim murat#jean baptiste bessières#andre massena#jean de dieu soult#maximilien robespierre#camille desmoulins#antoine saint just#choliszt#chopin#franz liszt#niccolo paganini#hector berlioz#felix mendelssohn#antonio vivaldi#sebastian bach#js bach#rarepair#answered#just girly thoughts
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aight so i finally want to give my thots abt s3 so here we go..
don't get me wrong i like it but i couldn't enjoy it as much as i did with the previous seasons :/ let me explain tho
it all happened to have something to deal with BEN. during the majority of s2 he was in a lot of pressure because he's the only one that found out about brooklynn's existence, as the season ended the rest of n5 finally knew the truth and even had the chance to reunited with brooklynn again! (even for such a short period of time)
i love how the first ep showed direct/indirect consequences of brooklynn's existence to n5. and that went for ben too as he didn't tell the others from the start, kenji's obviously still mad at him cuz not only that he's goin through a lot of grief and depression, but because he has trusted and had some bonding moments with ben during s2. darius already understood ben and focusing on brooklynn instead. and i feel it's understandable because in his' case, he literally carried GUILT over brooklynn's death, he loved her and it was her death that haunts him with regret. sammy decided to isolate herself from the others and would try to stop any further convo about brooklynn because she has been left by a lot of important people within her life (in a way when she needed them the most), i really feel her feelings of being betrayed and hurt :( yaz and ben (yes ben, even after kenji or the rest of n5's response to his action) were the ones that without a doubt, wanting to reach out for brooklynn and make sure that she's okay. i personally kinda confused on why yaz didn't even want to doubt brooklynn's actions like darius, i mean it's really heartwarming to see her support on brooklynn but it ended up making her not being able to see nor consider sammy's perspective :(
anw going to ben, i feel like what he'd gone through before just VANISHED right after he got with gia, and no, NO! i DO NOT hate gia, if any of y'all come at me and talk shit about her imma block you asap >:( i feel like ben DESERVED to be angry towards brooklynn this season. and if not, i want to see him AT LEAST pouring his feelings and thoughts out about the whole situation (with gia nor anyone he's able to talk to at sum point, a genuine heart to heart talk like darius-kenji and yaz-sammy), the second ep really showed that to n5 except for ben?? like OKAY i get it, ben's got gia now and but that ain't ALL of ben's story, it's like many chemistry between ben-gia were poorly placed, neither with the absent of ben's opportunity to have a heart to heart talk abt brooklynn or the harsh cut from their cute moments into yasammy breakup, i love em but i'm sorry it's really hard to swallow :(
(if anyone who reads this sees any misinterpretation of ben's characterization please let me know!! as my writing comes off from a biased standpoint towards s2 akdjsllksd)
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Season 8 was like 6 years ago(I feel old) and I know ppl have differing opinions on the Mr Echo thing (but it was intended, made it to storyboard and blocked animation and then dropped, soooo) but. I can see his recruitment p easily tbh. Bc the whole reason Dr J was in that lighthouse was because he was resurrected, forced there, and ordered to build Skulkin vehicles by Samukai. But Samukai in the flashback we see has already been deposed as leader of the Skulkin/Underworld. Which means the orders to do so most likely came from Garmadon.
And since Mr. E is one of the head honchos, he's likely an early arrival to the team, so I don't think Harumi has a whole lot figured out at this point, she's just got her Trauma and some Bad Influence Friends and an obsession with Lord Garmadon. So. Like. Plausible deniability road trip that she's just visiting important markers of Ninjago's recent past, all of which involve Lord Garmadon in some meaningful way; its sightseeing, its cathartic, and it gives her time to develop her dream Motorcycle Gang/Resurrection Cult. She's not looking for anyone at the Lighthouse, but she is looking for vehicle blueprints so she can be the Koolest leader on the block. But oops she looks in the basement and there's an Echo.
And she's flipping out bc??? A Ninja???? In the Lighthouse basement??? I mean it makes sense that it would be this one but???
Except this rusty old robot has no idea what she's talking about with this Ninja stuff, he's just waiting for his dad to come back.
And Harumi pauses.
Because how long has he been waiting? He's not sure, he had no proper way to measure time in the basement, and he doesn't have the best view of his clockwork heartpiece. But it was after his father saw a strange ship docking; Echo was worried it was the People who had locked up his father in the first place, but instead his dad sounded happy when he saw whoever was out there. It could have been a front, though, as clearly it was never safe to let Echo back out. Then Dr J popped down briefly, while everyone above was resting, to tell Echo he was desperately needed elsewhere, that it wasn't safe to bring Echo, but that he'd be back in no time.
And the pieces are fitting together for Harumi. And she's like. Your dad's dead, bro.
And he's like. What? Did he die doing what was needed of him?
And she's like. Oh, no. He died a few years later.
And he's like. Why didn't he come back for me????
And she's like. Probably because they kept him away.
And he's like. Who's they?
And she's like. The Ninja I was talking about earlier.
And it surely can't be hard in universe to find pictures of Zane and Dr J post s2-pre s3, so she pulls one up and shows Echo who is freaking out bc why is that one kind of like him and Harumi explains that that was the droid his father created first, that he became a Ninja, and that hes probably the one who took their father away and kept echo waiting for years.
But Echo has doubts, shocked as he is abt a new older brother, he wants to believe the good in the situation so he's unsure. But Harumi mentions that the Ninja's failures to uphold more than their self preservation/interests has led to uncountable losses and devastation in Ninjago time and time again, before delving into her own story. And she seems so kind, and so hurt, and I do think there's a genuine connection btwn these two that forms from this shared emotional torment that they decide came from the Ninja, and now Echo is more receptive.
And then Harumi gets to start her Garmadon pitch because wait! If Echo was made here, then that could only have happened because of Lord Garmadon. And she reiterates that he's the reason she and her city could have even survived The Great Devourer. And maybe Echo's family-by-creation left, maybe they were untrustworthy and lacking, but that's OK bc if you look at it all a certain way, Garmadon is more of a father to Echo than Dr J was. And Echo is a vulnerable, overwhelmed mess who just found out his dad fucked off for years without him and also died, and also he has a brother??? Who their dad clearly seems to have favored??? Did they even know about Echo??? Did they delight in their life free of him???
Basically. Kinda Spinel-core but getting abandoned and left completely alone does that to you. Especially when the first person to find you after being abandoned is a deeply hurt and misguided teen who is probably kinda desperate for someone, anyone else to see the Ninja the way she sees them.
#i was thinking abt the idea of citrusshipping#and how it could have flowed into Mr Echo. with morro as the vengeful influence tinting these#one sided experiences to associate ninja with loss#but theni was like 'wait a sec tho bc Harumi does that also and its her gang called the sons of garmadon#and if youre very carfeully squinting and cherrypicking out pesky details and nuance. like harumi would be.#echos existence is thanks to Lord Garmadon. and there is no better replacement dad than garmadon. you should be a son of garmadon.#and echo would probably listen and she could get him out the lighthouse and off the island'#and anyway i kinda ship Harumi and Echo now?#i like citrusshipping its funney but i think i actually ship this dynamic now#its. fucked and manipulative but its also like. genuine and just. two scarred young people and harumi gives echo her distorted view#of the world as the gift of her love#so its like she wasnt trying to manipulate echo. not like she was trying to manipulate Lloyd.#but she did take someone in a v fragile state and begin shaping his worldview to match hers. unconciously but still done.#like i can also see her bringing him to the mainland and she and UV and Killow are his tethers which means everything he sees radicalizes#him further...and draws him in closer to the fold#anyway if he and harumi smoochie kiss then shes why he got rebuilt in Crystallized. also i think mr F stands for 'Mr Fun Guy'#echo zane#harumi jade#ninjago harumi#quietmystery?#idk what the ship name would be but im here for it#mr e ninjago#mr echo#echo/harumi#tbh i said i kinda ship it now but it could also be friendship#sons of garmadon#...ok til abt the morro-echo-harumi trio hcs and Yes#this is just more of a like. canon compliant ish take where morro is still gone from the narrative#love the idea of the 3 in a vengeance trio tho
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i know an anon suggested ocd to you the other day, and i didn't see the original message but i know it was a bit fraught. but i am a longtime follower who has ocd who also thinks you may have ocd. and with the reblog you just did i'm like well, maybe i can say a little bit.
i've been sitting on sending a message for a long time because (1) trying to diagnose someone on anon is so fucking weird, i am very aware and ashamed of this weirdness in sending this to you, don't worry, (2) it seemed so obvious to me and you've already talked about other mental health issues and such that i was like "no, surely she must already know she has ocd and is just choosing not to talk about it (completely understandable, i don't do it on main), and then i would also be weird for forcing her to out herself".
the thing with morality-adjacent ocd is that a lot of the base thoughts, in a vacuum, are fine. if you hurt somebody some level of shame is good so you can reflect and correct your behaviour. caring about doing the right thing and refusing to do things that violate your principles is good. it's the intensity and all-consumingness of the thoughts that is the problem.
i mean i say morality but it applies to other ocd too. you should wash your hands and keep your place clean as much as you can, but obsessively avoiding contamination by washing your hands for half an hour straight... etc. it's ultimately egodystonic - it takes the thing you hate the idea of the most and convinces you that is what you really are.
like you are genuinely an admirably principled person, more than many, and it's good that you do the right thing instead of the easy thing. but your anguish about like, not contributing enough good to the world as a comics artist and things like that screams morality ocd self-punishment to me... and repeatedly talking about it feels like a confession compulsion. which i also have, kind of! i feel the compulsion *to* confess, but i don't, because if anyone forgave me or told me it wasn't a big deal they obviously haven't formed a sound judgment because (1) they are morally depraved themselves, (2) i didn't explain myself properly and they didn't understand why it's bad, (3) they're my friend and being more permissive with me because they like me, so they're too biased.
this was long, sorry. but you're a good artist and i like your work and i hate seeing you suffer like this. and if you really don't have ocd, well, i'm just another weirdo armchair psychologist anon vanishing into the void.
i appreciate this and thank you for being kind+brave enough to send this while medication juggling is really making me insane new ways. i have not been diagnosed w/ocd and only started kicking the idea around not too long ago when cornered by the inescapable nature of my thoughts/feeling, the fact that no one understands what the hell i'm ever talking about, and seeing signs of it in someone else very close to me. and i guess incidentally learning more about how it develops/is treated.
lol your bit abt internally responding to how ppl try to comfort your "confessions" rings very true. i never thought of my posts as confessions but like im desperately trying to get a hold on a reality that makes sense to me because when reality doesnt make sense, it feels perilous and fleeting. like, doesnt anyone else feel like this? why am i the only one who sees this? how am i supposed to understand what i'm supposed to be doing to live a life that isnt equivalent to a sewage drain that empties out into people's houses if i cant even understand whats happening?
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hi curly 🙂 uhh gonna be kinda sappy here for a sec lol, sorry. this is gonna sound crazy but u genuinely helped me quit smoking. LOL. among a bunch of other things... idk what it is, but you've been this like, force of comfort and encouragement in my mind ever since i met(?) you? learned abt you? idk don't think too much abt it lmfao but yeah.. i just want you to know that you've helped me get through some tough times recently; ive started to stand up for myself and take better care of my health, im even trying to get into working out a little bit (no promises that that'll stick tho, i have poor discipline LOL.) i guess i see a lot of myself in you, good and bad. you make me want to be a better person, and you motivate me to put in the work to make it happen. i cant explain how, but you just do, and im immensely grateful. i know you might not feel like a great friend or captain right now, but... if it's any consolation at all, you've at least helped this random stranger from another world to be a happier, healthier person. i hope that's good for something. im gonna keep trying to get better, for me and for u too. from the bottom of my heart, thank you. thank you.
Hey… Wow. That’s, uh… I’m not sure what I did, but I’m glad it helped you. Give yourself some credit though, yeah? Quitting, learning to stand up for yourself… That stuff’s not easy. You should be proud.
At the risk of sounding incredibly fake, working out doesn’t have to be a chore. Gotta find the routine that works for you. Don’t listen to what anyone else says you should be doing, yeah? It should be fun. Should be work, but it should feel good.
Well, happy to help, even if I don’t understand how. Means a lot hearing that, honestly. I’m glad I could do something right. Proud of you, mate. Keep pushing through.
Thank you, too.
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Hi! So it's evermore anon here and... a LOT of things happened from the last time.
Basically I got a bunch of bravery out of nowhere and told my parents basically everything. Unexpected? Yes (for me too 💀). Explaining a bit better, one morning going downstairs for breakfast my mom tells me that she needs to speak to me (I was terrified). Basically the issue was that she found my school diary, and she found some music lyrics containing the word "bitch". I saw nothing wrong, because from my perspective if I'm good at school, I have good grades and a good behavior, some ramdom lyrics that I scribbled down will definitely not ruin my reputation. But from her (+my dad) perspective, that's something TERRIBLE, not respectful and other shit. Sigh. I hate how they assume that they're right js because they're older, and how they give too much weight to things that are completely weightless for me. But ANYWAYS, after that I went to the bathroom (I cried because I constantly feel like they only care about my school results, while they don't see everything behind what I do to actually achieve those grades) I said to myself "se non ti apri adesso quando stracazzo lo fai? Quando ti ricapita una situazione del genere?" (=If you don't open up now, when the hell are you going to? When does a situation like this happen to you again?). So I sat down and told them about me being atheist, me maybe having adhd and my sexuality. Sigh. That was hard as fuck. And yes, they were alright w it, but it wasn't a clear "we love you anyways", they started telling me lot of things that I in fact did NOT understand at all. Things like "maybe one day you'll feel god calling you" (?? Like? Dad wtf??) and "okay, you could be lesbian, but don't think abt it only in that way, stay open to have also a relationship with a boy!" (Mom??! What the hell. She was basically telling me that I'm too young to know it) Sigh. But what's important it's that they don't hate me!! I still have a home!! And for the adhd thing, my mom's searching if there's any centre near us that we can go to before actually going to a specialist.
I'm pretty happy about this result, even tho I feel to much exposed, knowing that they actually KNOW things about me. Now I gotta tell my friends. Sigh. (I'm also in physical and mental need of a gf 😖)
Uhhh thank you SO MUCH for "listening" <3
also in 8 hours I will be closed in prison (my school). I genuinely wanna cry. I hate having to socialise with too much people and being forced to speak to teachers. (I would love to do homeschool, but my mom would never accept it) I already have anxiety for all of the tests 😞.
<3
Hi!
I'm glad your parents were as accepting as you could have hoped. Hopefully in the future they realize that this is not a phase and it's a part of you. I'm also so glad your mom is looking into a possible diagnosis for you!
Remember that you don't have to come out to anyone until you're ready <3 You don't owe that to anyone!
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omg forgive me for using your askbox as a dumping ground for my rant but you're one of very few people with common sense so I'm sending it in anyways feel free to ignore or delete 🫶
as someone who's been in the mogai community for three whole tiresome years and who has also been heavily involved in communities which literally engage in child exploitation (as a victim LOL I gotta clarify 😭😭) there's a lot of overlap even if some people refuse to admit it
like is it emiko rei asano from the real hit show I Dressed Up As A Drop-dead Gorgeous Model for a Day and My Entire Class Fell In Love With Me?!?!'s fault that predators would decide to target them for their typing quirks and the way they present themselves? no, absolutely not, and it never will be. but is it still relatively their responsibility to make sure that what they're doing doesn't genuinely border on ageplay? yeah, I would say so, because if as many of them are involved in sfw age regression as they claim they should know what's commonly in those sfw communities and what's typically only limited to ageplay—yet they don't.
if you dance around in a landmine field, eventually something is going to explode.
a really common tactic used by child predators which I'm gonna like explain super briefly and avoid giving too much info abt is that they expose people to explicit things under the guise of it still being sfw, and gradually move on from there. if you are a predator and you are entering the editblr community all you need to do is scroll through an anime list, pick one, pick some shitty dividers from canva to slap onto a character and add a psd coloring to it. it isn't that difficult to talk in third person ꒰⑅ᵕ༚ᵕ꒱˖��, it isn't that difficult for your one and only idol to start dming u abt how cool && awesome ur work is and how they wanna get 2 know u better ^–^ none of this s××t is difficult to replicate xD
and I'm not saying it's their fault if a predator comes up to them. but I am saying that editblr puts a large focus onto fake personas that everyone holds up no matter what, and a lot of them are all-knowing goddesses who are meant to fear nothing—so what happens when you mix that with someone who knows how to use that to their advantage? an explosion.
I'm not gonna sit here and claim that everyone on editblr is pedobaiting or predators because most of them are lonely afabs with no irl friends looking for a safe community they can reside in and be seen as cool. and that's fine. but when you worship a 15 year old and treat their work as if it's the greatest thing to ever touch the tags.. that is going to cause issues. that could potentially cause disorders, or at least traits of disorders which cannot be "fixed" or "cured", for lack of a better word, without a fair bit of therapy.
teenagers are easy to manipulate. lonely teenagers who don't get attention from anyone other than one community are the easiest, because they'll go all the way to get what they want. and when they go too far, get ostracized from the community and end up alone again.. it opens up more opportunities.
I wholeheartedly believe that the emphasis on the personas, the layouts, the typing quirks, the aesthetics and the most important aspect everyone tries to live up to, perfection, will cause the downfall of the community.
I do also think it's funny that everyone is caught up on the dyslexia thing considering half the people in this community are faking disorders and saying slurs they can't reclaim just because nobody will question them for fear of being attacked but uhm that's a different personal topic !! btw for a group all abt acceptance they certainly do hate it when people aren't white or "japanese" (you know fully well why that's in quotes) .. lol .. kinda funny how that works !
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Anon here! first of all, i have to apologise, i was a little drunk when i wrote that and probably didn't explain what i was saying—noted abt the tag for the first, thanks! i feel like no.1, the ben rut part was like, borderline, because stuart said yes, but he didn't know what he was signing up for the entire team (first go) he wanted it to end and was in genuine pain. that's not ...? but disregarding that, the whole part where Piet. throws his antarax and has that convo—pretty much rape threats, are they not? + the part before ben steps in. like i said that's not even my issue, you've tagged ccntw and that is enough. i don't think you're inciting "enjoyment" from that section but at the same time that is a very very dubiously consented-to sex scene.
All good - to be fair your ask addressed a few things I'd questioned before I posted regarding tagging, plus it gave me a lovely reason to post my little explainer which always helps me align my ideas and make sure they're coming across as intended. Honestly I just really didn't people thinking I wrote r*pe in an explicit nature because I never would and really didn't think I had.
I still thing DubCon covers it. Yes, they're are threats of r*pe, do not get me wrong. I am by no means shying away from that. I guess for me, as it never happens (and if it did I would 1000000% put a TW on the chapter) I didn't see the need to tag it. Due to the nature of omegaverse pieces and people losing their mind needing sexual exploits, consent is just a grey area as nature of the universe I'm writing in.
Put it this way - before I write anymore, it's wrong, so so wrong and a topic I will be exploring in later pieces as the attitude to omegas shifts - in a court of law, if an alpha had had an omega whilst they were in heat, the court would not rule it as r*pe. It's the shit way omegas are treated in omegaverse (definitely mine); they have no rights, no ability to demand anything, no right to an opinion. It would be said that the omega in heat should have kept themselves away from the alpha to avoid a bonding, not that the alpha shouldn't have touched the omega.
Think of it like the shitty dress code thing that happens in schools in the States. A girl has a shirt that hangs off her shoulder and it's not 'boys, don't look at her like a sexual object' it's 'girl, cover your shoulder you're making the boys horny'. The right isn't with her to wear what she wants, the 'right' is with the boys who are distracted by some exposed skin. Omegas are the girl and alphas are the boys.
In terms of if Kevin gets Stuart to heat and mates him, I still think it falls to dubious consent, not r*pe. No, Stuart wouldn't want that in his non-heat riddled mind, but heating he'd open his legs for anyone. That is consent. Massive fucking grey area, do not get me wrong, but Stuart has consented. Consent under an influence feels it fits better, which is why I use DubCon.
It's a really really hard line to toe - trust me I'm trying to walk it xD - but this question of consent is a massive thing in overse because of how mating happens, flash heats and trigger ruts. All I can say is IN VERSE, I don't consider it r*pe, I consider it DubCon. I can see your point, and I can only say that if you don't feel comfortable reading those kind of things overse fics might not be for you.
Hopefully that makes sense? Please ask anymore questions if you have them, but that's why I won't be tagging r*pe (unless as said it does actually happen and if it does it will not get any form of explicit discourse) and that, as a blanket cover, DubCon should be taken as probably throughout the series.
As a final note, there is no planned r*pe in this series. DubCon, as I've now said too many times, feels like a bit of a given because of the universe, but not intentions for r*pe.
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Hi hi! Here for rambling :D Babysitter being forced to play make believe and realizing, 'ah shoot, do I regress?...' meanwhile their poor caregiver is watching in the background like 'Do I need to be concerned? I think I need to be concerned' because their game of make believe is just a very much what happens when kids play through their trauma. Anyways just been working more on my own oc's and posting stories on my blog for them and yeah take a little sneak peak of my babies :3
“What are you three doing?” Their game is cut off by a disbelieving voice, three pairs of eyes whipping up to stare at the adult who walked into the room. Cassandra stares back at them, hand on her hip and confusion written all over her face.
“Umm… playin’ house?” May says, sounding less than confident. Lawrence nods- and Tristan… Tristan is pretty sure he wants the floor to swallow him whole.
“Dear Lord… I’m not dealing with this… I can't deal with this...” Cassandra mutters under her breath, not that it helps, she’s still loud enough to be audible. “You kids will be the death of me…”
Tristan can watch in real time as the elder woman gathers herself. He joked along with the others that most of the crew enter what they call ‘mother hen mode’. He’s never been on the receiving end of it. Never realized just how soft her features turn.
“Let’s play a different game for a while, hmm? One that isn't so..." She seems to struggle to find the right words. "I just don't think it's a good idea anymore.”
And where he’s fully expecting her to turn, ask for him to maybe help carry the other regressor, clean up the toys, something, even just to leave now that she's here- instead Cassandra's face softens, humming questionably as though to say ‘now how do you fit into this…’
The problem is, he doesn’t. He doesn’t regress, doesn’t need to, doesn’t want to. He’s no caregiver either, terrible with kids that aren’t his sister. There is no reason to be here and no reason that he isn’t saying anything. No reason as to why his heart is beating erratically, no reason why he feels so exposed.
And because his brain decides to betray him further, his first instinct is to tip his head forward, hide his face behind his bangs and the stuffed animal in his lap, not helping his case at all.
“I was forced against my will to be here.” He mutters, because maybe if he could just explain-
“Of course.” Cassandra says not missing a beat. Nodding seriously in a way you might to appease a child.
It's infuriating, because it's wrong, and it makes him feel, feel... small. He doesn't know if he wants her to keep being kind or to quit acting like he's included as one of her kiddos.
okay this was long- I am sorry >///< (hides away now)
NO DONT BE SORRY I LOVE YOUR WRITING AND IM SO EXCITED TO BE SEEING MORE AND HEARING MORE ABT YOUR OCS!!!!
literally always feel free to be like tl i posted a story abt my ocs or i posted an art of my ocs like in my dms and ill zoom over to find it as soon as i see it and this honestly goes for anyone who wants to share something idk i just. i rlly genuinely love seeing ppls creations and ocs (fandom ones count too idm if idk the fandom)
OKAY BUT
ive said it b4 i think one of my fav things abt ur writing is how quick and easy it makes it to grasp the context of the story, even just from a blurb, and how you write out the emotions with descrptions that its like. idk. its so understandable and clear cut to me at least, esp that last part of Not Knowing what you want
thank you so much for sharing mayliz i love it <:)
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very personal (arguably oversharing) but vague on details talking about. CSA and experiences in my life that idk how to like. Organize my thoughts on them. 👎 And also I genuinely couldn't care less Abt who reads this (minus like. Pls keep urself safe y'know) here's a mahjong tile 🀄 because idk
Thinking abt CSA is fucking weird bc there was an instance that (clothed and minimal physical contact. I don't wanna over share but Id feel weird not clarifying). I have trouble personally labeling bc like in my mind there wasn't intent to harm or like. Full Awareness of what what happening bc the other ppl involved were also my age. So I don't want to label them as abusers but at the same time I do think it affected me. But, besides that, the thing is I don't think the event was The Big Thing that fucked my relationship w sex/sexuality as a kid bc really That One Was The Internet. Like the reason The Thing happened was bc all of us as kids were exposed to porn at a young age and we didn't have the ability to really process what that meant and idk Abt them but my parents just tried to keep me away from that stuff rather than actually helping me process what I was seeing?
Especially since it wasn't even something that I really actually... Idk i sought it out bc I didn't understand it well more than actually being aroused by it so. Yeah I do wish my parents had given me more info there.
But to summarize basically I don't think that even was uniquely traumatic in that like. I don't want to downplay the fact it obviously still affects me but it honestly feels like. Idk it wasn't anyones fault directly it was just decisions that we all didn't have the proper context for (my peers and I lacked the info and experience to have informed consent when it came to sexual stuff and my parents didnt know how much sexual stuff i was seeking out bc I actively hid it from them) so like.
The way I'll put it is that if someone has The Exact Same Experiences I wouldn't say they Were Wrong to label it as CSA (specifically COCSA) but personally I think that label doesn't capture the way it registers and therefore affects my relationship w sexuality. I feel like I struggle with that in some ways bc it's a sorta... Hard to define gray area and I don't Like That. I want things to be defined and like fully dissected to I can understand them.
Then there's. Like. Another incident in which my dad exposed me to a movie that. Idk it was about strippers so it wasnt that it had A Sex Scene it was About Sex Work and shit. Also one of the fuckin. Trailers for other movies they put on DVD had a "please be 18" joke (it was a racecar driver getting flashed) that. Now idk if it was meant as like hopeful or worried? But I had to ask my dad to explain that to me and he did??????? And I barely remember his explanation but man what the fuck
Anyway it's another case of I don't want to call it CSA bc that implies there is An Abuser and that. Doesn't feel right. I guess. And not just bc like oh he's my dad he wouldn't do that
It's like i wasn't forced or coerced into watching I was just curious so I watched it. And I think the problem is the fact he didn't like. I don't know
Because I was getting exposed to sexual shit on my own, so I don't even think making me Not Watch it wouldve helped in the long run. I guess it's more that fuckign. Both of these things are singular incidents that are easy to remember bc of the fact they are identifiable as Incidents
But like. The thing is that I genuinely don't think those Incidents are the problem, because even if they didn't happen I would have still been exposed to sexual material that normalized fucked up ideas of consent and sexuality and sex. Like.
I guess the problem is less Abuse and more... Neglect? In that I wish adults around me had done more to explain consent and that sexual shit isn't Bad in some nebulous way but is like. Dangerous in the way a knife is.
Because the problem isn't the fact a knife is sharp the problem is that you arent careful when using the knife and hurt yourself or someone else (or someone else hurts you) and a knife can be used to hurt people because it's dangerous but that doesn't mean it's always bad it's just Dangerous. And also it should be kept out of kids' reaches until they understand how to safely interact w it
Also tangent: I don't think asexuality should b like pushed on kids or whatever but I think it's worth telling kids about because learning about asexuality as a (pre?)teen when I had known about sex since I was probably 7 ish? really helped prevent my relationship with sex getting worse
Mainly bc it taught me it was normal to not want sex and never want sex, and I think while some kids might think they're ace when they're just y'know. Kids who aren't interested in sex. I think it does help kids who have been exposed to sex contextualize their experiences more
Like. Explicitly having confirmation that sometimes people just don't have sex (which isn't exclusive to ace ppl there's just a lotta overlap) or experience sexual attraction Ever was helpful for me to fully understand the different parts of sex. And also I don't think it's the end of the world if some eleven yrs old thinks they're ace and when they become an adult they realize they were wrong or whatever.
#CSA ment#SA ment#COCSA ment#Just. General discussion of CSA and ''grey area'' experiences (not like I'm trying to downplay but I'm not sure ''abuse'' is the most#helpful way in terms of like. Personal Recovery + Understanding to define my experience. Complicated)#And not incest but I talk about how my parents not explaining Sex Better ended up w me.#Having a fucked up relationship w sexuality#And finally some shit about how learning Abt asexuality helped me personally in the end. Goodbye and stay safe
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another post abt my personal life sorry :/
had a reallyyy heated argument with my sister earlier. worst once since we were kids. this environment is awful
what basically happened was she asked me to do something and when I didn't quite do it how she wanted she stormed off and shouted at and insulted me and I retaliated and it escalated. she's a moody teenager with a short fuse and I don't really ever wanna be around her, my parents assure me that she's just a moody teenager and I hope they're right because if how easily annoyed she gets now is just a part of who she is I cannot continue to have her in my life long term. I simply cannot
I was a moody teenager. I get it. but by the time I was her age I knew better and actively worked on how irritable I was because i knew that at that age, being that moody wasn't acceptable anymore. I was awful as a teen, looking back I feel awful for anyone who I flipped out on for no reason other than I was a moody teenager
I feel my parents constantly excuse her behaviour with "that's just the way she is!", that is not how it's going to work in the real world. we have been so patient with her and we have tried so hard to understand that she's a teenager and she's hormonal but it's genuinely starting to get to a point where she's unbearable to be around and we don't ever wanna be around her
when her and I get on it's so good and we can talk for hours and it's lovely. but all it takes is me not even realising I've done something to annoy her and she's shouting at me and insulting me, if this was any relationship other than brother and sister - I would not put up with it I would have cut her off a long time ago because it's draining knowing someone like that, I feel like im walking on eggshells constantly. I often don't eat my evening meal til late so I don't have to be near her
it's something I really hope she grows out of because it's a horrible trait that she has. I am not proud of how I acted earlier, I still have some things to work on even though I am not as easily irritable/susceptible to anger as I was when I was younger. I have come a long way from when I was younger but I still have some work to do. she doesn't even acknowledge how horrible she can be
when relaying the situation to my mother she manipulated the story to make it seem like it was all my fault, seemingly because she doesn't wanna feel like she did anything wrong. she said I started shouting at and insulting her, when I didn't. I keep my head down and mouth shut when here because I'm so fed up of conflict that I dont speak unless spoken to, so I couldn't have possibly started it
I feel like im constantly walking on eggshells
I feel like im constantly walking on a tightrope that's about to snap
everyone in this household is someone who gets angry quite quickly, im the only one working on it. I have before now, especially in my teen years, said and done things that I'm really not proud of. I grew up in a house where my parents would (and still do) fly off the handle at a moments notice and you are a product of your own environment, so as soon as I realised that that's why I felt anger in the way that I did, I started working on it
this environment is so toxic and I'm miserable about it. I've tried to explain to my mother that if we all talked about things instead of all just getting infathomably angry and getting at eachothers throats then we'd create a better environment but she's like 'that's the way it is unfortunately', it doesn't have to be!!!! trying not 2 cry as I type this but I'm just so tired and fed up and generally upset about everything
I can't sleep cos of stress. I'm drinking alcohol every day. I wake up everyday and remember what my life is atm and get a sinking feeling in my chest. I just. I know there are others who have it harder and at least I have a roof over my head and food to eat and like I should be thankful for that but I just. ugh. I need to get out of this environment
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i'm very new here, would it be okay to ask of you to infodump about "dez"? they seem very blorbo material and i'm curious :3 (if not i'll totes understand if you wanna keep things hush-hush due to spoilers lol)
OFC ILL INFODUMP ABT DEZ DEAR ANON HE'S MY BOY

his names Desmond O. Arkady and he’s the main protag of SE and is…tbh the only normal person out of the entire cast. he’s just a normal superpower-less kid who gets involved in world altering events on accident becuz everyone else is mean to him and likes using him cuz he craves validation and can’t say no :( unfortunately for all the ppl who like pushing him around, he’s got extremely serious, repressed anger issues (due to his dad's emotional/verbal abuse and his mom abandoning the family) and is eventually pushed beyond his breaking point which at some point involves making a nuclear bomb so. good work guys-

he’s also super fucking smart and loves everything to do with science even tho he isn’t too good at math. he excels at biology and chemistry and likes to take home dead animals to cut open and look at. he also practices necromancy- he’s a distinguished little victor frankenstein just. one who doesn’t steal dead bodies v-v he particularly likes reviving dead cats (one of which becomes a supporting character at a later point) but other than natural sciences he's pretty adept at taking things apart and putting them back together. he can look at a radio and know exactly how it works and what the components are that make it function. he also loves fun facts and will randomly drop them on people, especially morbid ones that he finds 'funny and interesting' but isnt to others :( so while he's pretty intelligent he doesnt do well socially which resulted in him being bullied VERY badly when he was younger but he tries to take everything in stride....even tho he almost drowned once becuz of it and one other time almost beat someone unconscious during one of his 'rage blackouts' (he definitely fucking cried for like 3 days straight after that even tho he doesnt rmm)

while relatively normal he’s related to like, arguably the most powerful person in the world which is something he’s super unaware of. he’s the heir to a shit ton of scientific endeavors and intended future owner of ALL ANDROIDS. but again he’s unaware of this so when “certain things” tend to happen to him or around him he just tends to brush it off and doesn’t think it concerns him. the person who he’s related to, Lupe, is struggling to get into contact with him cuz 10 years ago she astral projected so hard she caused her subconscious (i’m not explaining) to time travel so. she’s just been in a coma for a long while annnnd she very much might never wake up again so OH WELL looks like her TRILLION DOLLAR FORTUNE is just in fucking limbo for now >:/

hmm what else..very much a people pleaser, he's got this really weird inclination to freak the fuck out if he thinks people don't like him- he also ignores a lot of his feelings?? like if he feels anything intense other than happiness he's prone to crying fits and throwing up which his bodyguard francis thinks is INSANE and STUPID. despite ppl treating him like shit he's genuinely a very hopeful person and loves the world and everything that takes up space in it. like he tries to and does see the good in everything and while the events of the story kinda wear down on him he ultimately doesn't think humanity or Martiankind deserves pain and/or suffering; he persistently keeps a strong sense of justice/morality and thinks that anyone or anything is ultimately capable of good.
hrrrrm thats all i can seem to say off the top of my head for now...anyway yeah he's literally the best :3 like out of the entire cast of SE he's definitely the guy the root for imo v-v

waaaa but tysm for the q
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BTS SCENARIO: you try to make them jealous
---Maknae Line Ver.---
Jungkook
Definitely seems all innocent and put together on the outside.
Won't even tell you he's jealous if you asked him to his face
Honestly he probably won't even hold a grudge abt it if you make him jealous but it'll still be in the back of his mind
My advice would be to NEVER actively try to make him jealous bc one of 3 things will happen
He gets jealous, yeehaw
He gets sad and internalizes it on himself.
Ignores the situation entirely and then feels a little insecure abt it later on
He's not likely to view you as his "property" if you will, but he views your relationship as a togetherness where you just sorta belong to each other in the first place.
So when he sees you all enthusiastic and smiley and happy with another guy, he doubts that you really belong to/with him at all and maybe it's just him who really felt the togetherness
However, if you take it too far trying to make him jealous, he will get SO SAD.
Not even angry, not even insecure
He's just hurt
He genuinely is oblivious to your plan so don't blame the guy, but he really thinks that the reason your lowkey flirting w another guy is bc you forgot about jk and he just didn't mean enough to you to consider his feelings first.
After that, he'd just wanna be alone
So when you find him sulking and letting a few tears slip in an empty room, he needs a lot of reassurance
And that is your time to explain that you were trying to make him jealous
And then he's a happy boy :)
JIMINIEEEE
Omg he's so cute
Would 100% notice what your trying to do immediately
And he'd do it right back, even better than you did in the first place.
Sending you winks, and little smiles
He would honestly find it so cute that you tried to keep up with him and continue the little act you had going on
But then it wasn't about you anymore, and the guy actively flirting, touching, and whispering in your ear was what got to him
Since he can see through your act, he wouldn't feel insecure about your relationship but it really pisses him off when other people come on to you
And then it's not so playful and cute between you two anymore and he'd make it a point to tell you that
Like deadass he would walk up to you and the guy, kiss you infront of him, say nothing, and just walk away holding your hand smiling at how flustered it would make you
After that I think he's clocked out with all the flirting and teasing for the night and he's ready to go home
And yall know what happens at home.
He shows you who you belong to, what else can I say?
After the fact, he's all cuddles and kisses.
Lowkey just forgets about the whole situation with the other guy lmao
TaeTae
He just doesn't understand
Why would you want to make him jealous at all?
He shows you his unconditional love and passion for you at every waking second
like istg this man is so loving its fucking crazy
You really don't even get the chance to properly talk to anyone else so your whole "make him jealous" plan is just a hard one to solve
He seriously will follow you around like a lost puppy and if you even talk to another man, he'll just start asking questions
"Where did you meet him? How long have you known him? What's his name? How old is he? Where does he work?"
And he doesn't even intend for it to sound interrogative, he just wants to know the people you know
I really don't think he sees other men as a "threat" to your relationship bc he's just very confident in it generally
What I'm trying to say is that just because you claim to have a guy friend, taehyung is not the type to make any assumptions about his feelings towards you or really doubt that he's more than a friend
So in conclusion, taehyung is too infatuated with your love for each other to doubt it
Therefore, he's a hard one to make jealous
But on the rare occasion that you succeed,
It will probably consist of him leaving the room and coming back to find you and someone else, the other person flirting with you, and you allowing then to do so.
Which makes him mad
And Tae is not a hot tempered kind of guy, he prefers to talk things out
But this is not just jealousy bro
Like he actually is upset w you for letting someone do that
And of coarse he'll let it go eventually but he cant help but feel a little betrayed
With enough praise and I love yous and you listing all the reasons you love him, he'll forgive you
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I see posts and twits (even from the people who don't like JC) about how JGY and XY are evil but JC is not, and I just don't understand?? like, if he was just a basic bitch, jealous and resentful and bitter, I would understand, but the guy planed and lead a siege to kill his 'brother' and people he knew where not a threat, knowing there was a toddler there! and then he spent the next 13 years (openly) being a serial killer who tortured and brutally murdered people routinely just because he could and knew he would get away with it, with no regrets, no empathy, not even a hint he had doubts about his actions. He used his power to target people who didn't have any chance against him, who were vulnerable; he trained his sect into being experts in abducting his victims, he tried to teach it to his kid nephew! How could that not be evil? Even if we ignore everything else he did, how can a serial killer be anything but evil?
I understand that the author said he is not, and maybe it's just me projecting, but she seemed to say it to avoid his fans? like she was reluctant to speak much about him at all? for me, the fact that she compared him to XY says more than anything that yes, he is evil.
sorry for the rant, I guess I'm just trying to understand. If you share this viewpoint about him, would you mind explaining why? (not that you need to explain anything, I'm just genuinely confused and don't know who else to ask. I trust your opinions, they are always clear and intelligent, so I decided to chance it.)
byw, I understand that he was a minor villain or an antagonist, whatever. He was boring and dumb. I just don't think it exempts him from being evil.
complex villain mastermind? no, he is too dumb and boring. But that doesn't exempt him from being evil.
If you happen to think he isn't evil would you mind explaining why? not that you need to justify your feelings and thoughts, but I'm genuinely confused about it. i know the author said he wasn't evil, but I always had the impression she was reluctant abt speaking of him at all, bc of his fans. That she compared him to XY says a lot, I think.
Ahah it's funny, I also felt from the interview that she didn't want to come right out and say something negative about jc and provoke his fans.
"In my mind, Jiang Cheng does have some fans, and these fans are really vocal about him in the comment section. So, I think there’s a lot of people who like him. They don’t treat him as the bad guy." (x)
lol Because the interviewer asked her several times if she doesn't think he's bad lol. But naturally that's just a vibe. She did something similar in the novel postscript:
Everyone should know what Jiang Cheng’s keyword is without me saying it. In the beginning, I thought with with XY’s existence, Jiang Cheng’s negative energy would definitely seem skimpy.
I'm like, no no tells us the keyword lol! But in the end it's really just negative energy. She thought XY would make his seems skimpy but it wasn't the case lmao! Another comparison to XY.
Male Host: So what do you think was Xue Yang as a person? Just as you have described Jiang Cheng?
MXTX: A person with a distroted world view. An unhappy childhood, someone who …deserves to be beaten by the protagonist. (x)
lol & that's the thing, "evil" is a pretty subjective word- like "love". What's "evil" to me or you may not be "evil" in the eyes of someone else. For example I don't think jc is capable of love, because he's too self involved to feel empathy for anyone else. Similarly, I suppose I wouldn't call jc purposefully malevolent. I think he's bad in the way particularly shitty people are bad when they have the power and privilege to give their faults free rein without fear of consequences. Because of his social position, wealth and strong cultivation the deep flaws in his character are enabled to do extensive, permanent damage unchecked. It's after all something that his father worried about and tried to instruct him against. That's why I think words like "evil" are ultimately useless to classify things. jc is not purposely setting out to do evil on a grand scale but he's deeply damaging nonetheless. Instead of helping his people jc is busy trying to still track down and kill WWX after he already caused his death and the death of everyone he was protecting. His own people are too terrified to seek his help. He demands things from others but doesn't repay his own debts. He only talks about what he's owed. He doesn't take responsibly for anything but only blames others. He's filled with envy and resentment for those who are better than him instead of striving to be a better person himself. His parenting not only did a number on his nephew emotionally but pushed him to repeatedly put himself in life threatening situations. He's so incredibly self absorbed, his concerns revolve only around himself. In that way, more than being evil, I just think his existence is damaging to others and I'd see zero drawbacks to humanity in having less people like him walking around.
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