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vvalliu · 2 years ago
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Game of Thrones 7x04
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winnie-the-monster · 1 year ago
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whateverthedragonswant · 2 years ago
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Was literally this
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Bronn shot Drogon. Jaime was going to kill Dany with another spear but more appropriate for her human size compared to the Scorpion vs Drogon.
Jaime was going to do exactly what he did to Aerys, right down to Dany's back being turned. He was going to kill the dragon.
The parallels are insane.
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youngglittersoul · 2 years ago
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Well, I re-watched Game of Thrones with one of my cousins. I didn't speak at all about Jonsa during S6, I decided that I would only ask after the parentage reveal. My cousin is not the average viewer, she is brilliant and she can immediately spot themes in the show. She even theorized that Jon Snow was Lyanna and Rhaegar's back in S2.
When I told her about the possibility of Jonsa, she told me that she did find the romantic tension in their scenes. She spotted it during the reunion hug, but didn't think much because she thought that this could just be the natural reaction of people who was apart for so long. Then she began to be confused because she remembered that they weren't even close, she told me she was a little bit weirded out by their scenes together (especially the cloak scene.) She remembered Ygritte and Jon's fascination with red-heads. She knew the Starks were not Targaryens or Lannisters to have sibling-incest and she was a bit terrified that the Jon and Sansa would go that route. So when the parentage reveal happened, she was happy that her theory was right and she was stoked about Jonsa because they made sense.
In S7, when the JxD scenes were happening I was really nervous. I told her the marketing about JxD being the Great Romance of the series. After S7, she told me that she didn't believe the "Great Romance" BS. She told me that she can see it in Jon's eyes that whenever he was around Sansa there are so many emotions of love, guilt, etc., but when he's around Daenerys his eyes seem lifeless. I told her about the Political Jon theory and she was able to connect that to what Sansa said about "being smarter than Robb and father."
She's not a Daenerys worshipper, she likes the character but she doesn't see her as a hero saviour goddess like most fans. Staring from S1 when Viserys was killed, she was already suspicious of the character. We talked about her ruling capabilities a lot during the seasons, and we pointed out how she never left the pyramid (in rare instances of public trials/executions or fighting pits), and that she doesn't understand the people and its customs. My cousin was disgusted by the former slaves wanting to be back to slavery, for her this just shows how incompetent Daenerys is at ruling. She likes how Daenerys can handle herself around men, but hates her overall attitude. We agreed that the "battle" in 7x04 was a massacre instead of a battle. We hated how she burned the food despite Daenerys needing that food for her army. She concluded that she wanted Cersei Lannister defeated, but she didn't want Daenerys to have the throne.
For Sansa, she was annoyed by her during the earlier seasons but my cousin came to respect her since S6 of the show. She was really proud of her character development and found her to be a capable ruler. For Jon Snow, she thought that he was a good man who always chose duty over love (over Robb and Ygritte). She has always liked his character as he was ascending to his leadership role. She really wanted Jon and Sansa to rule the 7K in the end.
During S7-S8, I pointed out that they will conceal a lot of the POVs particularly Jon. She noticed the weird cuts during the 8x01 reunion scene, and the weird love triangle framing. Since it was clear to her who Jon loved in S6-S7, she had no doubt about Jon's answer in the office argument. She lived for the drama in the office scene with jealous Sansa being too obvious about her feelings. During the "Who manipulated whom?" scene, she noticed that Daenerys only came for Jon and not for the good of the 7K. The manipulation theory solidified after that conversation between Sansa and Daenerys. She was entertained in watching Jon's facial expressions around Daenerys, she laughed at his disgusted face that time in the war council in 8x02 when Daenerys spoke.
When the Long Night episode happened, she hated that montage sequence. She thought that it was too long, particularly the part with the NK and Bran having stare down. We laughed so hard because one shot each of Bran and NK staring was enough, we wondered why did they have to repeat the same shots again.
She noticed the drama during the great hall celebrations. It confirmed that Sansa was in love with Jon, and that Daenerys knows it. But she was so happy that Jon turned around when Sansa left, and didn't look at Daenerys again. She hated how Daenerys kept on invading Jon's space and making him uncomfortable. She thinks Jon's "My queen" etc. has the same energy as Sansa's "My beloved Joffrey."
She was happy about Jon being a candidate for the 7k throne because she thinks he deserves it. She hated how Arya and Sansa's reaction to the parentage reveal was concealed since she was really excited about that moment. My cousin wasn't that surprised about the burning of KL, because she knew who Daenerys was. She wasn't surprised about Jon killing Daenerys, but she was weirded out by the dialogue during the throne room with "girl who can't count to 20." She thinks that came out of nowhere.
For the ending, she was surprised about Bran being King. Although Tyrion had points about Bran, she really expected that they would have chosen Sansa. She was really mad about Jon Snow being posted back to the Wall, because she thought that NW has no more purpose because NK dead and Free Folk are friends now. When she saw Grey Worm leaving, she said that Jon could just go home any time he wants once they leave. During the goodbye scene, she expected like a kiss between Jon and Sansa. She was really hoping for it, and got disappointed. I told her that the name of the last book that this season was based on was "A Dream of Spring" and that the ending wouldn't show the happy ending but a hope for a happy ending. I pointed out the last look between Jon and Sansa, and she is still pissed that the two people who saved 7K wasn't happy.
When we were watching the montage of the Starks, she noticed that Sansa was unhappy sitting in her throne. She was happy that Jon acknowledged Ghost again, but she was unhappy that he was going beyond the wall. She thinks that Jon deserves the throne and have lady wife and kids. She really wants a sequel just to see these two happy. She thought Arya had a good ending, but she wants the Starks to stay together!!
Overall, she thinks that the show was good. She noticed the decline in dialogue quality and quantity, and hated whenever there is a scene that pandered too long. She liked that the creators managed to create parallels from the last seasons, but she hated how they had to hide the point of views of characters in the story for shock value. She hated the ending for Cersei, Jaime, Brienne, Bronn (because he doesn't deserve it), Jon, Sansa, Bran, and Tyrion. She hated how S7 and S8 was shorter, and hated how they focused on Daenerys when the Starks were the heart of the story.
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zelroy · 2 years ago
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I just watched Game of Thrones 7x04 "The Spoils of War"
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dreaming-for-an-escape · 2 years ago
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I always laugh at Jamie in episode 7x04 when he charges at Daenerys. Ha!
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vantablackemo · 7 years ago
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This episode was fucking amazing
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manders1984 · 7 years ago
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For @waxedpaperdoor :)
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talesofalamia · 7 years ago
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GoT 7x04 *Spoilers*
I am so frustrated with the GoT fandom right now. For SEVEN FUCKING SEASONS we been itching to see Dany use her dragons in Westeros. We finally get the first sight of it and everyone flips! Not because it was awesome (it totally was) but because now people wanna act like she's turning into the mad king. Like really?! She could have burnt all of Kings Landing, but she went straight for a strategic military operation. Unlike Cersi, Dany found a way to achieve her goal without slaughtering unarmed non-combatants. The battle was amazing and exactly what we have all been waiting for for years! I am worried about drogon. I assume someone is going to fish Jamie out and take him captive. On the Stark side.... HOLY SHIT ARYA!! Another reunion and lots of badassery. Bran giving her that dagger was some cold shit. We all know that he knows Petyr is a worm and Arya doesn't like him. He knows that she will use the dagger to end the man that started so much of this shit. That fight with Brienne was beautiful! I'm not sure how much more shock poor Sansa can take lol. Little Finger is clearly shook. And Arya is just told ya so! Overall This episode was amazing and I am still processing.
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nonameinanytongue · 7 years ago
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Review, Game of Thrones 7.4: The Spoils of War
“I didn’t expect it to smell like that.”
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I haven’t come that close to a panic attack during a TV show since Breaking Bad staged a train heist in its nerve-wracking (the lukewarm ending aside) final season. As a genre, horror aims to elicit a physical response from its viewers, and few sights can compete for raw, appalling disgust with the charnel house Drogon and the Dothraki make of the banks of the Blackwater Rush. Add to that the tension of watching virtually half the cast placed in mortal danger and the mouth-drying suspense of seeing Drogon, a creature as achingly beautiful as he is hellish, a living icon of the majesty and cruelty of fantasy that is the show’s beating heart, in the sights of one of Qyburn’s scorpions and the episode’s climactic battle sequence is a physical and emotional ordeal.
Just before hell breaks loose, Bronn and Jaime speak to Dickon Tarly, Sam’s dashing hunk of a brother, about his take on the storming of Highgarden, his first ever battle. Dickon at first pretends to have found it stirring and glorious, but after some prompting his face falls, confusion creeping into his voice as he admits the smell of spilt bowels unsettled him. There’s no glory to be found on the battlefield. There’s no virtue in conquering your enemies. The ruin Drogon unleashes on the Lannister army is a visceral nightmare, a wasteland of boiling smoke, flying cinders, and men transformed into screaming, flailing torches. For all Missandei’s talk of a queen the people chose, Daenerys is as much a butcher as any of her enemies.
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The battle sequence is a work of dreadful art. From the ululating charge of the Dothraki, to the panicked screams of two horses stuck in the traces of a burning wagon, to Tyrion’s helpless terror and frustration as he watches his brother charge Daenerys as she tends to the wounded Drogon, the camera places us squarely in the quaking boots of the battle’s participants and observers. Bronn’s flight from a particularly persistent Dothraki screamer, a scene that reads like a flame-wreathed remix of Jon’s immersion in the mud-spattered chaos of the Battle of the Bastards, stands out as a brilliant example of the show’s ability to spin stories in which no possible conflict could leave us feeling good. There’s a thrill, of course, to seeing Drogon loosed on the world, but does anyone really want to see Jaime and Bronn run down or incinerated? In letting us live for so long with each of these characters, in taking such care to let our empathy for them grow, Game of Thrones helps us understand the truth of war as the death of love. No joy can come of it.
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No less moving is Daenerys’s first scene. Her journey with Jon into the obsidian mines under Dragonstone is like something out of Fellowship of the Ring’s Moria sequence as Jon reveals by firelight not just the dizzying galleries of stone hidden away under the earth but an ancient chamber decorated with the carvings of the Children of the Forest. His tale of the alliance between the First Men and the Children against the White Walkers is poignant, but behind it hovers the ugly truth that to the Children, the First Men were the same apocalypse the Walkers and their army now represent to Westeros. Even the blood-soaked weight of history, though, can’t stop the chemistry blooming between Harington and Clarke as the slow thaw of last episode’s first impressions gives way to a frisson of lip-biting sexual tension. The lighting, the paradoxical intimacy of the cathedral-vaulted cavern, the wonder Daenerys feels at knowing they stand where the Children once did; it all imbues the scene with a deep, gorgeous heat.
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In another season Arya’s return to Winterfell, her thrilling practice duel with Brienne, and her reunion with her siblings would have been an episode’s centerpiece. Here it’s part of a mosaic of wonder, sorrow, and human connection leading into the literally searing climax. It’s a treat to watch the two women square off, Brienne a juggernaut of destruction, Arya a reed in the wind. To Sansa, though, there’s more than a little melancholy in the sight of a sister transformed into a weapon by her experiences during their time apart. The three Starks in Winterfell have been reforged by life’s cruelty, broken down and reassembled as people who in essential ways no longer recognize each other. Sansa a canny and paranoid manipulator, Arya a dyed-in-the-wool killer, Bran no longer even truly Bran. His empty, emotionless farewell to Meera Reed, his tireless companion and a woman for whom he once harbored an embarrassed, boyish affection, is one of the episode’s saddest notes.
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Arya should never have had to learn to kill. Bran should never have been forced to break his own mind on the altar of destiny. Sansa may have been groomed for command by her captors, but at what cost to her soul? In their power, as in the furnace hearts of Dany’s dragons, is a reminder of the essential ugliness of the world in which they live and a warning not to let the horrors of the battlefield become our heart’s desire. The spoils of war aren’t glory or freedom; they’re fire and blood.
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vvalliu · 2 years ago
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Did anyone else notice that bran, sansa's brother, had a scene with LF and Sansa was not brought up once? Compare this with jon who never misses an opportunity to have Sansa thrown in his face by her love interests.
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whateverthedragonswant · 2 years ago
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7x05 vs 8x05 - Mirroring Scenes
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Not only is this the surrender of the Lannister army twice (in 7x05, it has their allies like the Tarlys as well), but it also shows you just why you should have been concerned at the Tarlys' execution no matter how much of a jerk Randyll was to Sam.
First we start out with Dany "addressing" her defeated enemies from a high vantage point (above them all):
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(Also it's no coincidence that we are shown in 8x05 the scared KL citizens first when Dany lands instead of the Lannister soldiers - this shows you exactly the intimidation Dany was using not only here but also back in 7x05 - Dany is very well aware of how her dragons scare people & she uses it as an intimidation tactic every time, she has always used fear)
"I offer you a choice. Bend the knee and join me. Together we will leave the world a better place than we found it. Or refuse and die."
Not enough people made the choice and bent the knee were intimidated/conquered & saw her for being a savior in 7x05 so Drogon flexes and sure enough we see:
In 8x05, the Lannister soldiers have not surrendered yet so we see Drogon flexing again (at Dany's command through their bond):
In 7x05, Dany orders Randyll to step forward and after some back and forth between he and Tyrion, she asks him "You will not trade your honor for your life?" (which calls back to what Dany asks Jon in 7x04 "Isn't their survival more important than your pride?" while withholding her help in the NK war until Jon bends the knee) Randyll straight up tells her that she is not his queen and so he seals his fate.
When Dickon refuses to bend the knee, Tyrion tries his best to convince Dany to put him in a cell. "I meant what I said. I'm not here to put men in chains. If that becomes an option, many will take it." (which shows right here that she always intended to rip the old world out "root and stem" & not truly win the hearts and minds of her people or rule with love or even love mixed with some fear) "I gave them a choice. They made it." -> in 8x05, people cry out for the bells to be rung in KL, to surrender, just like the Lannister army was given the choice to lay down their swords & when they made that choice, it sealed all of their fates
"Your Grace, you start beheading entire families--"
"I'm not beheading anyone."
Which is the uninhibited and terrifying (Dany POV-less) version of this scene en masse:
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And is it any wonder that we see Cersei and Jaime in the 8x05 scene before Dany makes her decision, more specifically Jaime picking up a sword as he makes his way through the city to get to Cersei? Especially when:
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(and Jaime is a mirror of Jon in a way which considering Dany's end and how it comes about is important to keep in mind especially since "You can forgive them all and make them see that they made a mistake. Please, Dany" & then Tyrion and Jon are mirrored later on as well, right down to the relieved expressions on their faces when they both see surrenders happening from their different vantage points)
We all already been knew but when you pick apart these scenes and see just how much they mirrored these two events, it becomes even more evident where they were headed with Dany's story in the end. While the execution of her dark turn was rushed (and then the moral & impact of her arc was negated by that Emilia-insisted reminder of season 1 Dany in the 8x06 throne room scene dialogue because she was too close to it), this was always where she was headed. They did everything but put up a big sign in neon lights telling you where this was always going.
And say what you will about the writing, the last season, the show, the showrunners, etc., but connecting scenes like this through mirroring was absolutely brilliant.
Dark!Dany was always coming.
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huffledove · 7 years ago
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Everyone who knew his face is dead.
We’re not.
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crazy-writer-ramblings · 7 years ago
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i thought i was the only one freaking about about jon and dany touching in this episode and turns out tumblr is freaking out with me. Just wanted to say how grateful I am for all of you jonerys trash out there. LOVE Y’ALL
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strawberrymilkiscalcium · 7 years ago
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brienne: who taught you how to do that?
arya: no one
syrio forel: i'm calling the police
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