#gaius scribonius curio

[catilinas]

in fact here is wilson joyce’s translation of the whole final passage of book 4 because it makes me go aaauufhhghhhdghhghhhhh

[seianusfanboy]

mark antony the moment curio dies in 49 bc

[garland-on-thy-brow]

[Giulio Cesare in Egitto, Giacomo Francesco Bussani.]

@soldatrose so Curio in Bussani's libretto really is meant to be Curio, not Curius! The author says he is THE Curio who as tribune of the people failed to secure the consulship for Caesar.

Caesar is not beating the necromancy allegations. Not when the undead Pompeian Lentulus is also working for him (in Cleopatra e Cesare).

Since Curio has a crush on Cornelia Metella, it does not seem that his death taught him any self-preservation.

[theromaboo]

So you remember Mark Antony sneaking into Curio's house through the roof? Here's the best quote I've ever read about it.

Antony compromises the integrity of the household as an architectural unit.

HELP! I can't...

Antony compromises? The integrity? Of the household? As an architectural unit?? By sneaking in through the roof? To meet with Curio??? This is so funny to me I can't. Compromises the integrity of the household as an architectural unit, huh.

Actually, I think the entire chapter that quote came from is a work of art. Look at this part.

The scenario Cicero conjures up features plot elements of romantic New Comedy, suitably blackened, with the youthful libertine (Curio Junior) and his lover (Antony) running foul of Curio Senior, who, playing the strict father familiar from the comic stage, repeatedly chucks his son’s homeboy out of the house — to no avail.

TO NO AVAIL

I'm looking at this book's table of contents and I think I have to read it. Just look at some of the chapter titles!

Family Therapy: Cicero as Counselor

Hitting 'Fast-Forward,' or: How to Pull Off a Praeteritio

Antony Adrift

Caesar's Approach to HR, or Why Antony Has What it Takes

Antony Augur, Addled and Addling

Antony Colonized a Colony!

Antony's Enrichment Activities

HELPP

This book is Cicero, Philippic 2, 44-50, 78-92, 100-119: Latin Text, Study Aids with Vocabulary, and Commentary by Ingo Gildenhard.

[catoswound]

i hate gay halloween wdym you're dressed as gaius scribonius curio sneaking into the home of a young mark antony

[xxmarvelouslifexx]

Last day of pride month :( Hope Mark Antony and Gaius Scribonius Curio had a great time.

[queerasfact]

Happy bi week! Julius Caesar was described by contemporary Gaius Scribonius Curio as “every woman’s man and every man’s woman.”

Learn more

[Image: marble bust of Caesar]

[scriboniuscurio]

QUICK HISTORY LESSON MOTHERFUCKERS

Gaius Scribonius Curio was already dead by the time Caesar was assassinated.

[procaelio]

I found this Japanese ancient Greece/Rome "dictionary" site, it's a hobby site and it comes with the disclaimer that it's more of a random collection of personal notes than an actual learning resource. Still, it doesn't come across as being like completely made up or anything, even if it does uncritically repeat shittalking of ancient authors. Like I can tell pretty easily where most of the information come from, like "Oh that was in Plutarch," and "Oh Cicero said that." Which is understandable because there are a lot less easily accessible resources for these topics in the Japanese language so I'm not going to be overly critical of a random personal site working with limited sources for a personal project.

BUT there is one thing in the Curio entry that I have absolutely no idea where the claim came from and I'm just like "what did they mean by this"

Gaius Scribonius Curio. 84 BC-49 BC. A leader of youth gangs. Catulus/Catullus's sworn enemy. Originally an Optimate. In 61 BC, he obstructed the assembly of the senate as a follower of Clodius. Quaestor in 54 BC. Tribune in 50 BC. In 50 BC, he took a massive bribe from Caesar and became his follower. In 50 BC, he delivered Caesar's ultimatum, marking the beginning of the Civil War. Racked up enormous debts from 50-49 BC due to elections. Became the guarantor of the debts of Antony, his lover. He was Caesar's mouthpiece in Rome in 50 BC. In that same year, he supported his sworn ally, Antony, in the election for Tribune using Caesar's money. Killed in battle in Africa in 49 BC.

CURIO IS WHO'S SWORN ENEMY? The names Catulus/Catullus can't really be distinguished in Japanese, so it could be either one, but....neither option really makes sense.

For Catulus, the 78 BC consul? There's not really a lot of overlap in their political careers. Maybe a mixup with Curio pater? More overlap in their political careers, but I don't think there's evidence for them being "sworn enemies." They're both Sulla guys doing Sulla guy things.

A lesser known Catulus?

If they meant Catullus, that's the infinitely funnier option. But if they really were enemies I think Catullus would've told us. Op do you have any forbidden lore you'd like to share with the class. Please.

(Obviously I know a random sentence on a random website doesn't actually have to mean anything but I'm still intrigued by what original piece of information got corrupted here. Like I could tell you where every other sentence here was sourced from, whether or not I think it's 100% true, I at least know where it came from, but the Catulus/Catullus thing I genuinely have no idea how idea how it got here.)

[voluptuarian]

#cicero accused antony of having an affair with gaius scribonius curio who was one of fulvias husbands#the web grows larger still

And it's the husband I didn't know anything about at that!!

Must hand it to Mark Antony for successfully pulling two of the baddest bitches in Republic-Era history (if not ancient history period) almost back to back. Also if we consider that alongside Cleopatra's marital tko of Julius Caesar and Antony, and Fulvia having bagged Clodius Pulcher previously its almost a serial relationship chain of the most interesting and happening people in the world at the time. More historical dramas should focus on this aspect I feel

[history-hoes]

[catilinas]

hhrrrnnghhgh quirites i’m trying to insert an intercalary month into the year but i’m an eloquent but immoral politician and the clap of the massive bribe i just accepted from julius caesar keeps alerting the senate

[yixi-shan]

Antony+Curio+Clodius🍻

[garland-on-thy-brow]

[Matthew Leigh. Varius Rufus, Thyestes and the appetites of Antony.]

Turns out Lucan's line about Curio who sold his country is haunted by a line in the Aeneid that borrows from what Varius Rufus wrote about Antony during the proscriptions of 43 bce (Varius' Rufus work, in turn, borrows from Cicero's Philippics).

Sure, Curio can haunt Antony but I see that Antony also can haunt Curio. As a treat.

[asoftblush]

Why did Cicero have to slut shame Mark Antony so hard? Leave the guy alone! Yeah, maybe Curio was his sugar daddy, maybe Cleopatra was his sugar mommy, so what about it?! Mark Antony was just living his best life, my dudes.

[gracchisuggestions]

Pointless imagining of the day

We’ve talked about how much Clodius conformed to his cognomen. Along that line, i picture Curio Junior as tiny, delicate-featured, and fastidious, over a head shorter than Antony. 

That would explain why Cicero dubbed him “Curio’s little daughter,” and adds an extra edge of ridicule to his accusation that he was the one sticking his dick in Antony.