#gaiden ep 2

[despair-to-future-arcs]

The Orphan's Final Resting Place

Location: Elizabeth Saunders Home, Ōiso, Kanagawa Prefecture

Time: 7:21 PM

*The car then stop*

So this is the place, yeah?

Yeah it is and damn, I can still smell it here...

Smell...what?

It's... not something you want to see, but you better cover your noses; as there's a lot of bodies...

*As Akane lead them, the 2 came across bodies of bodies of children, ranging from the ages of 5 to 12 years old, all rotting corspes*

*covers his noses* What the shit?! Holy hell, the bodies smell bad here!

*covers her noses as well* Well... I guess we were warned, we should bury the bodies after we take care of the robot...

Yeah, just step inside, he'll be ready...

*As the group walk in, another taxi stop a bit far off*

DRIVER: That's as far as I go, sorry...

No no, it's fine - thank you very much for driving us here, I'll be sure to pay for your services...

*As then the car drove off*

Alright, I think I see the Future Foundation Car here, I believe they should be here, correct?

Yeah, c'mon - let's see... *As the 2 wander in, suddenly...*

Wh-Whoa, holy shit! Damn that smells...! *covers his nose*

*covers her nose too* Dear god, that smell... rotting bodies...

This...this is giving me a headache, how does anyone deal with this - let's get this-.

GUYS, LOOK OUT IT'S COMIN'!

*As then jumping from the air was a robot that jumped to the ground which then formed...*

[X]

*A giant robot with a glowing red eye appearing, it's sites were set on the intruders which then swung a fist at Juzo*

WHOA!! *Juzo quickly jumps back*

Looks like we got ourselves, guys shoot for the eye! *readies for his position*

EVERYONE: UNDERSTOOD!

*As then everyone kept shooting at the the robot with their hacking guns as Juzo kept rushing over and punching the eye*

That's a robot...isn't it? They look like Towa Corp...

Ye-Yeah and it looks really tough too, how are we gonna get pass this?

*WOOOOOOSH!!!*

*As then the robot shot a rocket from it's hand*

SHIT, COVER GUYS!!!!

*Everyone did so except for Emma and Hajime*

HOLY SHIT, EMMA LOOK OUT!!!

*Hajime pushed Emma on the ground which the rocket blew up a building from behind*

Ugh...th-that was...!

Ha-Hajime, are you alright?! We need to get out of here!

Ye-Yeah yeah, right behind you, let's go!

*the 2 rush off away and get into another taxi as the fight continues*

...

...

...

*BOOOOOM!!!*

*The robot was destory!*

Ah...ah...ahhh, d-did we win guys...?

Yea-Yeah...we did, damn that was tough as hell, everyone else okay?

FUTURE FOUNDATION MEMBER: We're find sir, but what about the bodies?

We are gonna remove them and bury them, also wear gas mask so you don't have to breath them in.

EVERYONE: Right!

*As then everyone got to work on cleaning up, except for Akane...*

[naomithegiraffe]

I have such a weird problem with finishing things, at this point there are 8 games in my currently playing list where I've just stopped playing with like 1 or 2 levels to go and a couple different shows/podcasts with a couple episodes left that I just kinda forgot about honestly

[rantyapramble]

So, the last generation hashira. I'm curious about the order they became a hashira. A lot of people have done this I think, but I'm still going yap about what I think. This might be wrong tho. (Just REALLY need to get this out to someone.)

I think it's safe to say that among the last generation hashira Gyomei is the first to become a hashira, right? He's a hashira at 19, thats 8 years before the end (last ep of hashira training arc). If it's 8 years then Tengen was 15 which means he likely was still in the Uzui family doing shinobi stuff because the head appoints you 3 wives at 15 (taisho era secret). He's still in the process of running away from home with his 3 lovely wives, I guess. If it's 8 years then Giyuu was 13, then he was at final selection with Sabito (ep 2 hashira training arc).

From Sanemi's first pillar meeting, we can see Giyuu, Tengen, Gyomei, Kanae, and ofc the freshly minted hashira Sanemi. The order would be Gyomei, Tengen or Giyuu, then Sanemi. Because Kanae is still the hashira, meaning Shinobu wasn't a hashira yet.

From Rengoku's gaiden pillar meeting, Kyojuro can see 5 hashiras when attending the pillar meeting after his father stopped attending the pillar meeting. Kanae was replaced by Shinobu and Kyojuro wasn't a hashira yet. The gaiden is the story of how Kyojuro became a hashira in spring (the smell of sakura flower...cries). So the order here would be Gyomei, Tengen or Giyuu, Sanemi, Shinobu, then Kyojuro.

After Kyojuro would be Obanai, Muichiro, or Mitsuri. I don't know the order though... I think Muichiro is after Kyojuro but idk. Because he became alone at 11 right? His demon attack was in summer. His birthday is in August, summer. Which means the demon attack was right after he turned 11 in August, summer or at summer before August, his 12th birthday. After that he was in recovery at Ubuyashiki's mansion. He started practicing swordmanship with his injuries not healed yet. After that he became hashira in 2 months. The time between the demon attack and he becoming a hashira should be rather short. I think he either (1) just turned 11, gets attacked, then became a hashira before 12 (...so young) (2) was 11 before August, gets attacked, turned 12 at August and then became a hashira after that (with Rengoku and Mitsuri timeline, most likely) (3) was attacked in June at 11, became a hashira before August, and turned 12 (no matter how fast Muichiro is, most unlikely). With the most likely possibility (2), Kyojuro became hashira at spring when he was 18 (his birthday in May) and Muichiro was 11 (that spring). Then summer that year Muichiro got attacked and turned 12 at August and after that became a hashira (in that same year?). Muichiro is fast rising in ranking so I think it's Kyojuro-Muichiro-Obanai but it could also be Kyojuro-Obanai-Muichiro. There isn't much to work on with Obanai so I don't know for sure.

But I think Mitsuri is the last in order. In the Rengoku gaiden timeline, Mitsuri was a Mizunoto, training with Kinoe Kyojuro under the cherry blossom blooming at the Rengoku house. She was 17 when her marriage proposal got cancelled. After 17, she found the demon slayer corp and joined. It took her 6 months to pass final selection and became Mizunoto. That how it should be, but if THAT year Kyojuro was 18 at May, Muichiro was 12 at August, then Mitsuri should be 17 at June 1st. Or did she turned 18 that June? Or was Kyojuro 19 when he became a hashira or did Kyojuro became a hashira AFTER spring or was Muichiro got attacked right after he turned 11 and then took almost a year in recovery or was the gaiden timeline messy/not official? I'm so confused...*brain melt* I think it's wrong...

Whichever it is I think Mitsuri is last because at the time Kyojuro became a hashira she was still a newbie Mizunoto. And she first met Obanai because she was lost at the Ubuyashiki(?) mansion then she ask him for direction. So I think Obanai became a Hashira before Mitsuri because he was more knowledgeable than Mitsuri about the mansion.

The final order from that confusing rambling is Gyomei, Tengen or Giyuu, Sanemi, Shinobu, Kyojuro, Muichiro or Obanai, and Mitsuri. This is just my opinion tho. Could be wrong. I wanna know more about the hashira so bad. It's confusing.

[narhinafan]

Fun fact: Boruto's ending 2 song 'Sayonara Moon town' was first released in episode 14, during Nue arc. The first version of this ending was about Sumire and whole Nue arc(after episode 15, the next version was about Sarada gaiden). If you read the lyrics, it is just so romantic, basically trying to spoil some Bsu future moment.

Yeah you know what makes it even more amazing is that the ending was done for that episode only, while the ending song remains the same that ep got its own unique ending.

Literally normally endings would be used for the entire arc or swap at the halfway points, but the true second ending focused on Sumire put in the work to make it only to be used in one episode.

The lyrics are romantic like you said as well, the Sarada focused ending doesn't make sense nor match the lyrics when the ending accompanying the song is more focused on SasuSaku family as whole so a romantic song doesn't match. While the Sumire ending shows her struggle and references Boruto saving her while matching the lyrics of the song as well.

A path is faintly illuminated by the moon… I wonder where we'll go from here. The moon faintly wavers on a nearby lake… C'mon and show us our unknown futures!

First verse basically references Boruto saving Sumire and leading to a new future, but also it was a full moon on the night the Nue incident took place. Moon can also be a referenced to the Jougan as well which reacted to Sumire and Nue.

We're afraid of having more things that are important to us. We've lived shutting ourselves off, but it seems we'll end up meeting anyway. So if fate tries to pull us apart, I want to protect you, even if it destroys this world!

The second verse expresses how Sumire is afraid of getting closer and shut herself off yet in the end couldn't help growing attach to everyone especially Boruto. While the second line references Boruto wanting to protect and save her even though she was fated to be an enemy and tried to destroy the village.

Even while knowing this dream is fleeting, I still want to live my life with someone else. Even if I learn the pain of loss, I'll always be longing for someone else.

Goodbye... goodbye... We'll overcome this goodbye! Ah...

While the last two once again are about Sumire how she doesn't want to be alone and how she will overcome it. It also references how she was apart of the class and friends with everyone despite knowing it will one day end. It also hints at her longing for Boruto as well.

I could probably go more in depth with the analyse for even more references and hints, but just how easily you can gleam references to BoruSumi in the lyrics from a quick look shows the song was meant for them.

[silentwolfkills]

Naruto Timeline in Order:

Minato One-Shot Manga: Naruto Gaiden: The whorl Within the Spiral:

This Manga is going to be about the secret story behind Minato's jutsu.

One year before 9 tails attack and 6 years after:

Naruto Chapter 239 - 244 Kakashi Chronicles 1 - 6: Kakashi Gaiden: Naruto Shippuden Ep 119 - 120:

During 3rd Ninja war which was the year it ended and takes place a year before the 9 tails attack.

Itachi Shinden Book of Bright Light: Naruto Shippuden Ep 451 - 454:

Itachi is 4 start of novel then is 11 at the end.

6 years after 9 tails attack and 8 years after 9 tails attack:

Itachi Shinden Book of Dark Night: Naruto Shippuden Ep 455:

Itachi is 11 start of Novel and said to have joined Anbu 6 months ago and Shisui dies then said to be 12 soon by Fugaku which a year passed and he kills clan at 12 turning 13.

12 years after 9 tails attack and 13 years after 9 tails attack:

Naruto Chapter 1 - 8: Naruto Ep 1-5:

Naruto 12 in Academy, Graduates Academy.

Rin-No-Sho: Scroll of Facing: Konoha Side Story: At the Ichiraku…: Naruto Ep 101:

To-No-Sho: Chapter of Creation: Insect Collection:

Fu-No-Sho: Book of Wind: The Truth of His Face….: Naruto Ep 469:

Naruto Chapter 9 - 238: Naruto Ep 6 - 25, 27 - 96, 98 - 100, 107 - 135, 141 - 142, 220:

Waves Arc, Chunin exams, Search for Tsunade, Sasuke retrieval mission and then 3 months after mission Naruto at 13 in Dec leaves leaf village with Jiraiya.

14-15 years after 9 tails attack:

Kai-No-Sho: Scroll of Everyone: The New Erotic Ninjutsu Completed!!:

Takes place during the 2 and half years, Naruto is with Jiraiya.

16 years after 9 tails attack and 17 years after 9 tails attack:

Naruto Chapter 245 - 401: Naruto Shippuden Ep 1 - 56, 72 - 90, 113 - 118, 121 - 141:

Naruto returns to the village after 2 years and a half.

Sasuke Jinraiden: The Day the wolf Howled:

is before the 4th ninja war and after Sasuke kills Itachi, this takes place between Chapter 401 and 402 after sasuke finds out the truth behind massacre in Chapter 401 and before meeting team Hebi and renaming them Taka in chapter 402.

Naruto Chapter 402 - 699: Naruto Shippuden Ep 141 - 143, 152 - 169, 172 - 175, 197 - 222, 243 - 256, 261 - 270, 272 - 278, 282 - 283, 296 - 302, 321 - 346, 362 - 375, 378 -387, 391 - 393, 414 - 415, 418 - 421, 424 - 426, 458 - 463, 469 - 479:

Naruto finds out about Jiraiya’s death, Pain attack the leaf village, Sasuke attacks Kage Summit, 4th ninja War start then 4th ninja war Ended and concluded everyone saved from infinite Tsuyukomi.

Nearly a year after 4th ninja War:

Kakashi Hiden: Lightning in the Ice Sky:

is nearly a year after war and is before sasuke leaves Konoha.

Then Sasuke leaves in Chapter 699: Naruto Shippuden Ep 479:

Sasuke been Pardoned for his past actions with his help undoing the infinite Tsuyukomi and also Kakashi becoming 6th hokage and the wishes of Naruto the key figure in ending the war, helped.

Sasuke leaves the leaf village to know the Shinobi world and how the world looks with the current him and it’s a journey of atonement too, Sasuke leaves the village and Naruto gives sasuke his headband back outside the village.

Two years after 4th ninja War:

Shikamaru Hiden: A Cloud Drifting in Silent Darkness: Naruto Shippuden Ep 489 - 493:

Two years after the Great Ninja War, Shikamaru spends his days racing around, hands full as one of Konoha's key protectors. Then, large numbers of ninja from every region are reported missing. Even Sai disappears and the place where the missing shinobi end up is the mysterious empire, the Land of Silence. Shikamaru is sent with Ro and Hinoko/ Soku on an Anbu mission to find Sai.

Naruto The last: Naruto the Movie Novel: Naruto The last: Naruto the Movie:

Two years after the Fourth Shinobi World War, Naruto must stop Toneri Otsutsuki, a descendant of Hamura Otsutsuki, after Toneri causes the moon to descend toward Earth. Which takes place in the depth of Autumn, stated in page 16 of Naruto the last: Naruto the Movie Novel, Which Autumn in Japan is September to November.

Retsu-No-Sho: Naruto Special Extra Chapter: After the Last Movie:

Naruto and Hinata go on a Date.

Rai-No-Sho: Scroll of Lightning: The Beast that was Shot by Love:

It is set during the events of the Blank Period after the events of The Last: Naruto Movie. The omake is unique as it is through Akamaru's point of view on his thoughts on master/partner Kiba Inuzuka.

Sakura Hiden: Thoughts of love Riding Upon a Spring Breeze:

I'll see you soon." With those words, Sasuke left. Time has passed since Toneri Otsutsuki's attack, and spring has come once more. Sakura continues to develop her medical ninjutsu, her days busy but peaceful. But as she supports her friends through their own love lives, she can't help but wonder...how long must she wait? Then, he returns. But dark shadows follow him, and Sakura must face a new trial, as both the leading Medic Ninja of her time...and as a woman.

Konoha Hiden: The Perfect Day for a Wedding: Naruto Shippuden Ep 494 - 500:

Naruto’s and Hinata’s Wedding.

Three years after 4th ninja War:

Gaara Hiden: A sandstorm Mirage:

is set a few months after the Naruto’s and Hinata’s wedding.

Gaara has just turned twenty years old, so Sunagakure's elders think it's time for him get married.

They have already found a wife for him, which he is going to meet shortly and so, Gaara's toughest battle yet begins...

Akatsuki Hiden: Evil Flowering Full Bloom:

Nearly Three years after the end of the Fourth Shinobi World War, Sasuke Uchiha travels through a forest.

Despite having once been an international criminal, he was granted freedom and a new outlook because of the friendship of Naruto Uzumaki, the love of Sakura Haruno, and the trust of Kakashi Hatake.

With flash backs of the Akatsuki members Itachi and Kisame, then Flashbacks of Hidan and Kakuzu, then flashbacks of Sasori and Deidara, then Flashbacks of Konan and Nagato and Obito who was going by the name Madara back then and also flashbacks with Zetsu.

Sasuke Shinden: Book of Sunrise: Naruto Shippuden Ep 484 - 488:

Nearly Three years after the Fourth Shinobi World War.

As part of his redemption, Sasuke is still travelling around and protecting Konoha from afar.

In his journey, Sasuke still tackles missions sent by Kakashi while dealing with his own personal problems.

9 years after 4th ninja War:

Several years after Naruto The Last: Naruto Movie:

Naruto The Last: Naruto Movie Epilogue:

Shows Hinata Knitting and Boruto and Himawari Run by opening the door to go outside while it’s snowing and asking Naruto to play with them and jump on him, then it shows a photo frame of Hinata and Naruto’s wedding in the centre and on the left photos of Boruto as a baby and as a kid with Naruto and on the right photos of Himawari as a baby and a photo of her with Hinata and then Naruto has a snowball fight with the kids when then the kids ask Hinata to join in and play with them to.

Boruto stated to be 5 and Himawari stated to be 3.

9-10 Years After 4th Ninja War

Zai-No-Sho: The Day Naruto Became Hokage One Shot Manga: The Day Naruto Became Hokage OVA: Boruto Ep 18:

The Day Naruto becomes the Hokage and Kakashi retires from being Hokage.

Boruto is 122 cm and Himawari is 102 cm and in the last Epilogue, Boruto was 110 cm at 5 and Himawari was 93 cm at 3.

So Boruto is probably 6-7 and Himawari 4-5, Boruto’s birthday in March and Himawari’s birthday in Aug, 2 years age difference, Naruto had Boruto at 20 turning 21 that year and had Himawari at 22 turning 23 that year.

10-11 Years After 4th ninja War

Naruto Gaiden: The Road Illuminated by the Full Moon/ Boruto Chapter 0 also known as Chapter 3.5: Boruto Ep 39:

Mitsuki Origin story before meeting Boruto.

Boruto: The new leaves soaring through the blue sky! Novel 1: Boruto Ep 1 - 6:

Boruto enrolls into the ninja Academy.

Iwabee states the 4th Ninja War was 10 years ago the Academy starts in April and 4th Ninja War was in October meaning in October it would be 11 years ago meaning Boruto starts Academy at 7.

Boruto: A Call from the shadows! Novel 2: Boruto Ep 7 - 11:

The story of the dark shadow lurking in the Hidden Leaf! Someone's stalking Sarada, Cho-Cho, and Sumire at the Ninja Academy?! And what's this mysterious shadow that's making people lose control?! Perhaps a visit to his mother's family, the Hyuga Clan, will help Boruto get to the bottom of this and find out who's behind it!

Boruto: Those who Illuminate the Night of Shinobi! Novel 3: Boruto Ep 12 - 15:

The story of the ghost from the Hidden Leaf Village is stuck in another world! The identity of the specter haunting the village will be exposed as Boruto's new ocular power transports him to the location of his most fearsome enemy yet: the summoned beast, Nue! Class Representative Sumire Kakei's past is also revealed as the next generation of ninja fights against the darkness enveloping the Village Hidden in the Leaves!

15 years after 4th ninja War:

Naruto Chapter 700 Boruto:

Shino Aburame is now a teacher at the Academy, who is disrespected by his students, particularly Boruto Uzumaki. Hinata is accompanied by her daughter, Himawari, while visiting Neji's grave.

Rock Lee is training his son while Tenten is maintaining her own weapons shop.

Naruto Gaiden: The Seventh Hokage and Scarlet Spring/ Naruto Chapter 700+1 - 700+10: Boruto Ep 19 - 23 & 24:

fifteen years after the Fourth Ninja War, Sarada is concerned about the identity of her absent father, Sasuke Uchiha, and whether Sakura Uchiha is her birth mother, Sarada follows Naruto the Hokage 7th Hokage with Chocho and Naruto arranged to meet Sasuke and are encounter by Shin clone which Naruto protects both girls, The Hokage takes the girls with him to Sasuke's location and Sarada awakens her Sharingan at the thought of meeting him. Shortly afterward Shin, faces Naruto and Sasuke and immobilizes both of them. Despite this, he is defeated by Sakura, after which a creature controlled by Shin teleports him and Sakura to his hideout.

Sarada said to be 11.

Boruto: School Trip Bloodwinds Records Novel 4: Boruto Ep 25 - 31:

Boruto and his classmates leave for a school trip to the land of water hidden mist village However, revolutionary, Sakusaki Sumishin, who is trying to regain the former "village of the Bloody Mist", is plotting a war with the new Seven Swordsmen.

Boruto: The Last Day at the Ninja Academy! Novel 5: Boruto Ep 34 - 38:

Boruto and his Classmates take Academy graduation exam and pass it becoming Genin.

Boruto Road to B:

The heritage of the members of Team Konohamaru/ Team 3/ Team 7.

12 years after 4th ninja War and 16 years after 4th ninja War:

Konoha Shinden: Steam Ninja Scroll: Boruto Ep 106 - 111:

Mirai is seeing team team 15 trying to find cats, making Mirai 16 Mirai is 4 years older than Boruto and Boruto graduated the academy at 12 meaning Mirai is 16 at the time.

At the start of this Manga it starts of as Mirai as a Genin chasing Cat at this time Kakashi is still hokage, this would have to take place before Boruto was 7 and after he was 5 meaning 5-7 but age of graduating Academy is 11 or 12 unless Mirai somehow graduated early so possibly at 9 turning 10 that year.

While Novel is different doesn’t show Mirai as a kid Genin and it takes place when Boruto is in academy it takes place after chapter 700 but because manga shows them as genin then it takes place after they graduate academy and not while there in academy, so the Novel version takes place after Chapter 700 and Before Naruto Gaiden The Seventh Hokage and Scarlet Spring.

Boruto Chapter 1 - 10 and Boruto: Naruto the Movie: Boruto Ep 53 - 66:

Chunin Exams.

Naruto: Shinden: Parent and Child Day: Boruto Ep 93 - 95:

Shikamaru Nara the 7th Hokage’s Advisor, explains the holiday is meant to strengthen parents' bonds with their children. Because of his complicated relationship with his own children, Naruto suggests that they provide support systems in order to foster this parent—child bonding.

Sasuke Shinden: Teacher’s star Pupil:

Sasuke is put in charge of training Team Seven, and Boruto couldn't be happier! ...Except when it comes to actually listening to his new teacher. Now, famous pop star Lily Himeno has entered the spotlight with a new mission for the group! What does it mean to be a master? Or to be a student? And what future awaits these shinobi on the horizon?!

Shikamaru Shinden: A Cloud Dancing in Forlorn Falling Petals: Boruto Ep 141 - 151:

Disagreement at the Five Kage Summit causes a schism in the alliance that could trigger the Fifth Great Ninja War! Elsewhere, Shikamaru is dealing with a schism of his own, with his family beginning to drift apart... Can Shikamaru think up another genius solution to bring peace to both his family and the world?!

Boruto Chapter 11-15: Boruto Ep 148 - 151:

Mujina Gang.

Kakashi Retsuden: The Sixth Hokage and the Failure Boy:

Far from the Land of Fire, resting amid the mountain peaks, is the Land of Redaku. There, Kakashi takes another outcast boy under his wing, but soon learns that the country is on the brink of waging a new war... The battle between the Sixth Hokage and his new pupil is about to begin!

Sasuke Retsuden: The Uchiha Descendants and the Heavenly Stardust: Boruto Ep 282 - 286:

Sasuke travels far from the Land of Fire to an astronomical observatory to meet with Sakura.

Together, they go undercover in search of information on the Sage of the Six Paths, but end up discovering a plot already in motion that transcends life and death! Will the husband-and-wife duo be able to overcome this new threat?!

Naruto Retsuden: Naruto Uzumaki and the Spiral Destiny:

Naruto has lost his ability to use chakra, and who should appear offering their aid but Orochimaru with a new Scientific Ninja Tool...! Meanwhile, Kakashi, Sasuke, and Sakura are out of the country searching for clues pertaining to the Sage of the Six Paths when they find what may be the final piece to the puzzle! The true essence of friendship and what it means to each of the shinobi of the Hidden Leaf will bring them together once more!!This is the third book in the Naruto: Retsuden series!Cover illustration by Masashi Kishimoto!

Boruto Chapter 16 - 67: Boruto Ep 181 - 189, 193 - 208, 212 - 220, 287 - 293:

Ao Arc, Kawaki Arc, Code Arc.

Boruto chapter 47 No. 5 Rule of Otsusuki and Karma says Momoshiki attack the chunin exam tournament serveral months ago and implanted Boruto with Karma.

Boruto Chapter 68-80:

Omnipotence Arc. Boruto said to be 12 in Chapter 80.

20 years after 4th Ninja War:

Boruto Two Blue Vortex Chapter 1-16/ Boruto Chapter 81-96:

Boruto’s Return Arc.

[blueiight]

do you have a recommendation how to get into logh? Bc I heard about the anime series but I never heard about the books and I was wondering if you'd recommend checking those out first before watching the show version?

id say watch the ova first (NOT THE BBL NEW ANIME NO LAWD PLZ). i think s1 is most divergent from the books and the rest of the ova szns match p well s1 isnt rly that divergent where it diverges is that it just draws from the first 2 books as well as adding subplots from the gaiden LNs that wasnt translated in english (afaik) / invents some of their own that even as campy as they seem cuz its 80s this do supplement characterization imo if i just read the first 2 books w/o the ova itd be hard for me to rly give af abt kircheis & yet the memory of him is so impt . also half of the books was translated by toasters. this was my watch order.. iwatched s1 died at the finale then watched the kinnaka gaiden ovas -> s2 s3 died at ep that shall not be named -> spiral labrynith -> s4 -> gaidens once more cuz i died. then looped the main ova. start w/ the main ova then gaidens i overthought this answer

[infintasmal]

if i can convince anyone to join any fandoms with this blog it would be

-magi: the labyrinth of magic - high fantasy, really fun world building with an exploration on gray morality. 2 seasons (25 eps each) of anime. manga is complete but we don't talk about it. and a stage play.

-honorary mention to Sinbad no Bouken, the prequel origin story. 5 OVAs, 13 ep anime, manga is complete.

-Donten ni warau - light fantasy meiji era japan, great character development, good plot, beautiful art style. manga is complete at 11 vol. anime is complete 12 episodes + 3 movies to cover the gaiden manga. two addition spin off mangas, Utakata ni warau & rengoku ni warau.

-d gray man, for self indulgent reasons. classic early 2000s shounen but better. really great characters, hard hitting plot, one of the first mangas i ever ugly cried to. manga is releasing quarterly. original anime was 103 episodes. more recently released Hallow anime is 13 eps

[nohara-rin-dot-mp3]

brother walked in on me rewatching kakashi gaiden eps and looked me dead in the eyes and asked if i was a kakashi simp. which is a terrible question to ask because 1- no but 2- the reason i am rewatching them is for the rin content + to add fuel to the fire of my studies (watching her smile so emptily only makes me more certain that an 'empty vessel that cannot be filled' flavor of characterization is the best thing you could possibly do with her). which is arguably a more terrible thing to admit. i mean like i TOLD him because of our long-standing rapport + historical debates about similar issues... but like... girl... that was far too revealing...

[bykalopsia]

blade 1-10 notes

yippee! getting over the first 10 ep hurdle didn't take me 2 and a half months this time!!!! woooooohooooooo!!!!

i'm gonna be real these first couple of episodes have quite a bit of heavy-handed "character explains in far too much detail how they are related to someone else / what they're doing / etc etc etc to someone who should already know so the audience can also know"

it was also funny how nearly every recognizable still/gif i know from blade happened in these first ten episodes. tachibana is a strange man.

also it was a very tumultuous thought process to realize that karasuma is played by the va for date in yakuza and the peacock undead is the same actor as shishido in gaiden. woaughhhhh. (tbh i'm actually really surprised i recognized both of them on my own haha)

i'm chewing on hajime. (this has to be the least unique sentiment anyone's ever had about blade ever. are there people who don't like hajime? i don't even want to know the answer to that.) him and amane are the cutest.... u_u

before watching blade i didn't click with the suit but literally the second i started watching it turned into this for me ( •̀ w•́ )✧ .... cute.

and of course. what is there to even say about chalice that hasn't been said about chalice. [ REDACTED ]

fellas is it gay for your combat aptitude to rise simply because of your feelings about another man.

not sure how i'm landing on the undead designs just yet. most of them are great and then we have. zebra at the leather club. so. it's really a toss up.

also so far the card gimmick is a bit harder to grasp this time around compared to ryuki. but i think i'll get the hang of it eventually.

but yeah! still only the first ten episodes, so not a whole bunch to Really chew on. i'm particularly looking forward to seeing how far the psychological impact of the rider system gets delved into as i keep watching!

[drorder]

Ok i took some notes in my notesapp on this writeup, which I really appreciate you doing. I personally dont always have the attention span for some of the earlier episodes (s1 and early s2) and you pay a lot of attention to these episodes, so I like seeing ur thoughts

anyway heres what i got

Ep 15

Wait so was Crimson’s killing the Grunk established as an accident? Its been a while since i reread ur notes on s1, i’ll have to do that

In that vein, the fact that crimson has always known that CPUK is fictional, at least from some dimensional perspectives, is so interesting, and really does explain his behavior. God bless you for paying as much attention to this narrative as you do.

So its really interesting that Google and Prism debuted at the same time. We know from one of the NCCTs (3, i think?) that she had been studying Prism for a while, iirc, so i wonder if she was paying attention to Prism before 15, and maybe had the secondary agenda for Google of getting him to investigate her, or if she only started paying attention to her after watching Google fight her. Like when did Order put the anti-prism coding into her creations?

How long do you think Dr Order hid in that bush.

Gaiden Time

Wtf yeah i forgot she put that radar thingy in their BRAINS. jeez. Also yeah the absolute hubris of that.

I feel like we dont talk about the dimensional bus enough. This thing is sentient and BREATHES. Is it organic??

God i love Machi. Idk if there’s anything that proves or disproves this, but I hc that he mightve been Order’s first creation, because going back to the NCCTs, he seems to be one of the only one of order’s creations who genuinely cares about her as a parent, and has a good impression of her. Also, he’s basically a child, right? Like, he’s fully sentient, but on a less developed level than some of Order’s later creations. I kinda imagine that he was one of her first successes at creating a sentient creature, and so maybe she regarded him with a bit more fondness than her later, more developed creations, who were so mentally developed that they were able to rebel from her. Idk. Just a thought. 

So many things about your note on J0hn:

          1. I like the way that the commentators are basically unreliable narrators due to, in-universe, the limits of their knowledge on the characters, and out-of-universe, the way that character and story beats get fleshed out and changed later in the story. Of course, the commentators are sometimes consciously unreliable as well (think of how Ryan dropped the foreshadowing of Home being conspicuously missing in.. 19 i think).

          2. Its been a while since I thought about J0hn. I’ve never been as into him or thought as much about him as some of the rest of our community, but I Get It Now. The character concept of someone who went from being a sentient independent human to a sentient indepedent robot, but who got fully ship-of-theseus’ed and whose sense of self got completely scrapped and reformed…. Ough.

          3. Do we know that Larry also has the signal thingy? It makes sense, of course, but I’ve always kind of thought of Larry as being different from the other characters Order augmented/created because I assumed he was fully organic. But I don’t really know. Does he have/did he have more artificial parts?

Subzero Amalgam is so funny. Why did she do that.

Yeah rip light pit

Yeah I do wish I knew abt the kinda dynamics and hierarchy and all that of Order’s employees. I imagine they kinda have to do a lot of the work, because she has a whole lab to manage and also because, at least in Home’s case, he actually helps with the medical side of experiments. I just think the goings-on inside the Labordertory seem interesting.

G+ just decides to become sentient, huh? I like that.

Wait the idea that Order’s robots become sentient because she coded them to understand and detect Spectrum is really interesting. I do wonder how early she was investigating  Spectrum, though. Would it have been this early? I mean, i think she’d be investigating Spectrum at least after Prism, because it seems like that would tip her off to some kind of godly influence going on.

Yeah i agree with you abt Bing. I do think that being modeled after Bing is the reason Mac and Google are bad at fighting though

God I love Dan. He’s such a Some Guy tho.

“Ryan makes a comment on the match about CPUs not being smart enough to make a particular play a human could go for and Comona shushes him and Ryan goes ‘oh yeah i forgot.’” the implications?? Iirc, the commentators do comment on the cpus being cpus later without continuing this bit, but still.

LARRAY

So the version of Larry’s files that Order has on hand for Ryan to look through doesnt include him being Home? I feel like that adds to the theory that Riley (or maybe someone else, possibly Home himself?) found out abt that connection and removed that info from his files. Iirc that’s one of your theories, right?

Personally i hc that J0hn helped Larry break in. Maybe after J0hn got eliminated he left the building, Larry get in, and they both left together.

Rewatch notes, Dr. Order arc edition! My notes are getting longer and longer as the story gets denser. I fear what comes when we start hitting The Big Ones. Pray for me. These are just notes for 15 and gaiden 2, and this post will be updated as i make my way through.

CPUK15. goggle……………

Representing Calibur, Google, the green roy! Google being created from the base of Bing after she lost to him last tournament 'with Bing's weaknesses buffed out,' is established out the gate as a strong local theory. Comona believes in Google's potential, praising his pedigree and ability to analyze data and general knowledge base about combat, being that he's a search engine.

Cash Money, Instajennifer! Instajen is on a quest to become the biggest influencer on the planet, and film a sponsored makeup tutorial between her matches. Here to show up and show off. She will beat you to death and take a selfie with your corpse.

Team Cones, the Red Shadow. A funny prankster type. A greninja with the prankster ability. Puts whoopee cushions on benches and replaces sugar packets with salt and such.

Team Clutch, Alabaster Uppercut <3 funny punch man

Team Chonk, in his first solo debut since death, The Gruuuuuunk, back and better than ever! Comona: "im going to kiss home md on the mouth for bringing him back." Ryan: "its what he deserves."

Team Charm, described here as a team of positivity and niceness and such rather than the usual very explicit do-gooder description, represented by Prism. Hi prism. here to right crimson's wrongs :)

Team Cracken, Patchman! The pac is back. Man of the earth.

Team Cross, a celebration of all things crossover, today we have the one the only Miles Edgeworth. Or so he claims.

Exhibition match, Minecraft Steve vs. Therapuppy! Guess steve didnt get kicked out like i thought, forgot this match happened. I forgot a lot of exhibition matches. Therapuppy makes simple work of him.

TWOOOOOOO bamamas

Google vs. Prism. First match of the night. Comona thinks Prism has an edge in this match by her command of her lil creatures, but based on bing's performance and what hes heard about Goog being more reliable, Goog won't be going down without a fight. Prism lays down a LOT of damage very quickly but Goog takes first stock with a good edgeguard and dashdances on her for good measure. Commentators note Google is very different from bing in terms of combat behavior- strong reliable momentum and much less reliant on comeback factor. Google gets good damage on her and spikes her with a viciousness for the second stock before prism can even take his first. Google doesnt want to let you live past 70%. Prism manages to take it to last stock with some careful comboing. Google takes round one after a nailbiting match.

Ryan: "Spoiler Alert, can't wait for the round three." Comona: "you say that as though you know its already going to happen." Ryan, smugly: "hmmmmm."

They discuss how Google does his best taking stocks as early as possible, when he's fighting from a position where he doesn't have to be afraid to commit to an action, and so if Prism can survive until Google starts getting nervous, she can win. Prism has advantage on the second match stage, and makes quick work to combo him to death, dragging him down to last stock before she even has 50% on her second. Google is trying So hard to spike her and its not working. Prism baits google offstage at just the wrong time and he SDs, using up his jumps and upsmash trying to make it back up to the stage as it moves upwards away from them, Prism's squirtle able to make it back where he can't. The prophesied third round comes and Prism keeps firm control of the stage, losing one stock but taking all three of google's, the last stock with a vicious spike to match the one Google landed on her in their first match, sending Google to Loser's.

Alabaster vs. Red Shadow. Commentators comment on the big color theme going on at the moment. Ryan: "fortunately none of them are crimson specifically." Comona: "just regular ol red." Ryan: "just normal red. crimson is gone." lol. lmao. yeah he sure is

This match is so silly-goofy. Red Shadow a pride and joy of team cones with regard to getting funny with it. Goes stock for stock, until the Red Shadow dominates the last stock with a viciousness. Hes getting silly with it but he still doesn't want to lose to Al. Game 2 Alabaster is taking things more seriously too, the commentators plead with him to remeber who he is, to not lose sight of it, and hes doing good, aaaaaand he sds right on time for it to be a last stock situation. and then shortly after Al chokes again. Ryan: "now he's gonna have to fight Google in losers, thats not gonna be fun for him!" Lives are about to be changed 👍

Team Clutch and Team Cones are described as having an interesting specific sort of rivalry- Salt of the Earth training buffs and tricksy bitches.

The Gruuuuuunk vs. Patchman. Patchman is going to lose and the commentators know it. Grunk takes round one as predicted. Patchman did better than expected but the grunk cant be stopped. Patch manages to take first stock in the second round but, as predicted, the Grunk aint losing this one.

'Miles Edgeworth' vs. Instajennifer. Weird ass matchup. Commentators have nothing to say about it its weird. The commentators DO comment on how odd Miles' general willingness to scrap is. Comona comments on how weird it is that 'Edgeworth's' using some sword from the evidence room. Ryan points out how illegal that is "but its fine." Instajen is parrying for the clout. She was in the lead for a wild amount of time before 'miles' took it. Instajen's taunts are tiktok dances. 'Miles' is being Cruel in the second round. I do not know how jen took round 2 but it did piss 'edgeworth' off enough to threestock in round 3. Instajennifer #autopsyreport

Ryan: "I dont know if we're gonna have a fun character arc this week like we did last but we've got plenty of fun matches on hand regardless." He says during a break, immediately before Google vs Alabaster,

Google, a creation made to be perfect but already in losers bracket vs Alabaster, a guy who's never made it past 5th place but intends to make a name for himself regardless. Comona and Ryan discuss the idea of doing a 'worst of the worst' tournament featuring the most shameful, embarrassingly bad fighters immediately after introducing Al. Mean to him. Not wrong but mean to him. Anyway theres no faith in Al's chances against goog. Goog's peeved and has something to Prove. This desperateness to prove himself makes him easier to rattle, and Al does pretty damn good right up until google fucking Gets him at the end.

Comona says what ive been thinking since season one and forgot they said, that being. Again. Al is very strong hes just not up to par with insane battle freaks. Hes yamcha or tien or krillin hes good! Hes good as fuck! he just cant fucking keep up with superhumans! Hes a star member of team clutch not for his record, but for his spirit. Al takes stock one in round 2 with Pinball Variation. They're trading blows and it's all very anime. Al keeps a lead for a while in the second match until Google pinballs his ass right back and then takes his last stock at 200%.

Field report: Al laughs off his loss with a respectful thumbs up and starts to walks away. Google: "I don't GET IT. You always come back for more despite the fact you've never put up a performance befitting that of a competitor- what brings you BACK, alabaster uppercut?" Alabaster: "take a look around, google. Take a look around this great world we live in. Maybe then you'll see why I keep coming back." iconic moments in kerfuffle history. Comona's goog voice is so funny its so growly and anime-arrogant compared to what Holly does with him later that sticks, the whole 'a bit odd and softspoken but fiery' vibe he gets later

Google, starting to have his identity crisis: "do you think i was born yesterday?! I mean, it was last week, technically…" and then gets real quiet. 

Patchman vs Instajen. Comona anticipates a long set. CPUK provides coca cola as refreshments to workers like the social media interns who are not allowed to leave their desk while a tournaments running. and if you want pepsi theyre giving you coke and you have to be okay with that. you have to. Patchman is described as one of the more particularly intelligent salt of the earth types here

Patchman dominates a bit first match but, instajen, always dedicated to style, after taking patch's first stock, almost zero-to-death's the second. Doesn't pull out a win though. Ryan: "I will point out that in this tournament every fighter except Alabaster Uppercut has won a game. F." Second match is pretty close and goes to instajen with a decisive stomp Ryan says her stans would be envious of. Third match goes pretty similar, sending patchman home downtrod and disappointed.

Corn is an instajen stan. and freaked out about her dad getting to meet her in bracket. funny to me.

Prism vs. The Red Shadow. :) prism is built different and is not intimidated by some romhack'd red greninja. Red shadow canonically laughs like tim curry pennywise. Prism fights vicious and red shadow struggles hard to find a kill. Prism wins match one and she's white woman smiling at a glaring Red Shadow. The Red Shadow is 3-stocked on Dracula's Castle and becomes The Prismatic Shadow, after Prism has a little conversation with him :)

Ryan: "he's joined the prism club." Comona: "yeah, prism has that effect on people. I wonder if this means he'll- not FULLY take a step back from, still team cones, right-? But try to keep the prankster mischief to more of the tactical use rather than trying to be tricky at every turn." Ryan: "less about being unexpected, and more about being unexpected EFFECTIVELY." Comona: "when you can expect the unexpected its not really unexpected anymore." :)

The Grunk vs. 'Miles Edgeworth!' Pikachu weight. Goes very very close, but the grunk keeps a strong lead until last stock of the first match where 'Miles' takes it. 'Miles Edgeworth' lives in northern crater. Ryan: "where was this sauce when we actually introduced sephiroth?" Comona: "maybe its because its red sephiroth?" Ryan: "maybe. its that crimson magic*. *not actual crimson." Next match progresses much more evenly, with miles taking the lead at stock two. The Grunk pulls out the win in the end though, as predicted, and does so for the last match as well.

Chat Member: "Miles was the prosecutor in the Grunk's murder trial before he got revived and he's salty because he didn't get paid because the trial was canceled when The Grunk came back." The commentators laugh and roll with it, canonizing it. Ryan: "and the defendant was just an interdimensional demon! Whatever." Okay I just want to pick this scenario apart for a second because holy god its so. Its just so. Every time i remember this and that the Grunk's death was an accident i lose it all over again. Captain Crimson just standing over the Grunk's crimson-melted corpse while Val and Crimson do that one scene from one tree hill people animate their morally bankrupt ocs to (crimson, realizing uncomfortably its taking a weirdly long time for the grunk to arise anew as a Cool Evil Corrupted Beast: "well. I guess he could be dead by now." While Valentine panics about a body in a soundstage, HIS SOUNDSTAGE,) in his head. Captain Crimson got dragged into detention and might've plead oopsie daisies. The Grunk presumably canceled his own murder trial and pursued no other charges??? Valentine is the only person in this scenario probably having a relatively normal emotional reaction to being made an accomplice to manslaughter because this whole thing is a goof and a bit. Valentine brings up very pointedly the grunk's own murder charges in cpuk23, presumably either shortly before or after learning they're all fictional characters given its around this time he starts more officially becoming a full part of staff and not just an event emcee, and is understandably Fucking Stunned by Grunk's 'wheres my trophy?' response. Crimson, who has known this is comedic fiction the whole time but doesn't tell anyone that because it would be 'more trouble than its worth', as of CPUK Orange, does not appear to understand why his manslaughter accomplice doesnt want to hang out anymore when he's like, pretty sure there were no LASTING consequences. its all, just SO MUCH,

'Miles edgeworth' vs. Google. Ryan: "imagine trying to sue google." Googles described as having kind of an introspective air about him, thinking on his conversation with Al. Google SD's first stock, and never quite gets the momentum going enough to manage more than one kill, 'miles' capitalizing on his distraction. Comona: "somethings fried his circuits a bit." Ryan: "somethings Up with google." Comona: "definitely not feeling the same as he was at the start."

Miles is taunting him. "Fool. You consider yourself to be an antagonary force? You're such a fool to think so- you don't even have the power to take down someone like myself! After all, who else have you lost against- that Prism fellow? Please. If you wish to be an antagonist, and see the world as truly dark, you have so much to go. Dr. Order created you to be the perfect being- and look at you. You're nothing. Trash." Google: "Listen… here, 'Miles.' I was made to be the Ultimate Fighter. I was made to win. But now I'm realizing- theres more to this than winning, theres more to this than kicking your ass! But thats not going to stop me!" And round 2 commences.

Comona: "are we even sure this is miles edgeworth-? I know he can be cold but-" this thought is interrupted by some Sick Plays. 'Miles' does some serious damage to goog, but goog takes first stock and Fast. 'Miles' takes it right back. Goog is getting fiery and 'Miles' stays cool under pressure. Ryan and Comona describe how quickly Goog's flipped from antagonism in his match with Al to more antiheroic behavior. The match is fast and frenetic and Google just barely survives offstage and manages to take 'Miles' last stock. 'Miles': "Finally acting like the competitor you're supposed to be." Goog is silent. They go to warioware. Goog demolishes the first stock. Miles Edgeworth has a bad history with elevators. Goog keeps a firm two-stock lead and completes the win. 'Miles,' after losing, pulls out a phone: "Doctor? The deed is done." And walks out.

Miles picked that stage. Miles Edgeworth Would Never Set Foot In An Elevator. Thats Not Edgeworth. Thats just sephiroth with a red coat.

Google shows a 'return to form' with that match, by the commentators observation.

Prismatic Shadow vs. Instajen. If instajen wins shes gotten farther than the person who three-stocked her. Instajen fumbles round one hard and shadow takes it. Instajen zero to deaths shadow for the first stock of round 2. Instajen's the kind of person that doesn't take flops hard, Instajen: "just make another post girl. Just make another post." Instajen pulls out a win for round two, taking it to game 3.

FUCK spectrum. Commentators are venting about the internet provider. Comona: "the only spectrum I care about is the spectrum of colors these fighters bring to the stage. Round three!" The shadow drops stocks way too early, and ultimately Jen takes it.

Prism vs. The Gruuuuuuunk, winners finals. The connection starts getting Crunchy and Prism loses her first stock Very early. Grunk bodyblocks her off the ledge to take stocks twice, and the third Prism loses all on her own as frames continue to drop. A chat member suggests shes throwing on purpose because she wants to meet Instajennifer in losers. Second Round is on Prism Tower, PURE homecourt pick, but to the Grunk, Everywhere is home, and it doesnt take long before he crushes Prism's first stock. Prism takes the lead before last stock, but again as the frames are dropping, she fails to recover. She do be performing worse when the connection is weak. 15 is sliced into two vods due to technical difficulties.

Ryan: "spectrum iiiis dead. im killing spectrum personally, actually. Spectrum is the final boss of CPU Kerfuffle. The crimson is spectrum." All of these statements are hilarious in their own ways with time

Google vs. Instajennifer! Insta fumbles round one pretty hard. Ryan: "round one goes to google in a heartbeat of a match! I dont know what that means." Chat suggests the stage was bad for jen because it was a bad environment for selfies and such. Round 2 gets off to a better start for Jen, the two of them dancing around eachother and Jen landing her smash attacks much better, and this match looks considerably more even, but goog still takes it, beating Insta 2-0. She takes one more selfie in front of the stadium and makes her exit.

Goog vs. Prism- the runback. Google doesn't do too hot against Prism's charizard in particular, losing two stocks before taking one of hers. Google's so off his game at this point and cannot seem to find an opening against her. Prism seems to favor her Charizard, Fuschia, somewhat, throwing out flare blitzes like candy, taking first match. Goog's composure between his and Prism's first set and the runback has changed dramatically- the first angry, standoffish, but this time, he's laughing off his loss. Chat Member: "hes reading the results page for how to beat Prism." 

Prism keeps a lead on Goog throughout their second match as well. Ryan: "if im google, im going in on this second match. Granted, I'm not Google. Maybe he knows something I dont." :)

Google, slowly standing up after getting 2-0'd by Prism: "...huh. Thanks Alabaster." And he walks out. Ryan: "not sure how well thats gonna go over with Dr. Order, but I guess we'll see."

Grand Finals! Grunk vs. Prism again. Ryan points out how hard Prism threw in their last match, so anything's possible here. He suggests that maybe the reason she threw was wanting to see google again for some reason, but he's not sure. She sure did take both his sets.

Squid Jenny's investigation of 'miles edgeworth's' identity is still ongoing, but its looking like he IS in fact sephiroth from sephiroth- and while saying this ryan gets a dm from sephiroth asking if there's a purpose for followers only chat.

Grunk and Prism on Pictochat, Prism loses first stock before the Grunk even has 40% and Prism's Ivysaur comes charging out in defense of their funny turtle friend. Perhaps Prism's pokemon do have personalities and feelings and such; she just ignores them because they're tools and extensions of her as a fighter. Would make sense. Prism manages to put damage on the grunk fast enough to take his first stock before he puts much on her second, but the Grunk takes her second stock with a viciousness and her third with a footstool.

Thank you Sephiroth For The Follow!

Round 2: Pokemon Stadium. Funny lizart fight. Grunk SDs, but takes Prism's first stock right back pretty quickly. They scrap, Fuschia and Grunk fuckin. Beam struggle with their fire breath before Prism finishes Grunk's second stock with a flare blitz. Last stock is pretty even right up until Prism pulls out Viridian and Grunk sends her straight to hell. The Grunk is our First Place Winner of CPUK 15! The Grunk's feeling the thrill for combat is extra special now after he spent a bit being dead. The Grunk only lost one match the whole tournament to miles. came back Strong.

Title Match! Ryan: "imagine dying and coming back just to become champion. Absolute zombie madman. Love him." Grunk vs. Captain Valentine! All things considered? Pretty awkward. There is no comment made on it before match start, however. Capn Val always a people pleaser, keeps it stylish, keeps it even, keeps it a show. Ryan: "I wonder if Captain Valentine's ever faced the Grunk- back when he was Captain Crimson, I know, but I wonder if any of those memories were retained from the experience." Does that happen? Does getting possessed by Crimson fuck with your memory? Do crimson'd bitches got partial amnesia? It doesn't seem like it with his other hosts, and Val's characterized later as just. Really Not Wanting To Talk About It with regard to the whole Crimson debacle so it honestly wouldnt stun me if he lied about not having much memory of the whole ordeal to. Again. Avoid Talking About It.

Last stock situation. Chat: "Wasn't Val kinda the one to kill him?" Ryan: "well, it was the crimson specifically, not sure if he was the one it was possessing at the time but it was, again, the Crimson specifically." Huh. I guess mayhaps Val Could've been the one in control of his body when appraising the potential candidates for moving forward with the distaste for ICEE and Dadondorf, while Crimson himself was off elsewhere doing a Corruption, in theory. when he's not in crimsonaut specifically and healthy enough to manifest physically he Can operate separate from a host, after all. Buuuuuut, the Grunk seems to be not particularly happy with or fond of Val- described as being particularly irritated with his loss to Val in this championship match but walking off reminding himself that 'at least hes not Dead this time,' which i think is. Strong enough evidence for me that Val was Physically Present for and Part Of that interaction. oofa doofa

After a chat member asks Ryan to stall for time while they finish their fanart, ryan pulls up a grudge match he'd meant to do earlier and forgotten- Outside the arena. Squid Jenny's catching a live feed. Google shouts for someone to come out, because he knows they're watching. And, out from a bush, Dr. Order appears. Order, who apparently either wasn't watching or is checking to see if he'll lie: "so. did you succeed?" Google, laughing: "you think it's all about winning, huh?" Order: "you were supposed to win the tournament and become the champion." Google: "yeah, well, I didn't. What the hell are you gonna do about it?" And so the match begins. Order takes first stock and Fast, but google puts on damage real fast too, uppercutting her AND sending her soccer ball back at her at the same time for a very funny series of hits. funny ball classic. 

Goog takes her second stock before she can take his, but she takes it to even last stocks shortly after, but Order cant put damage on as fast as goog does and takes it. Google: "I'm done with you." Order: "Good! I don't want losers on my side." And the live feed cuts. Ryan: "soooooo. Google might need therapy. But that's okay, that's what therapuppy's for."

Its gaiden time bitch!!!! This ones gonna be fuuuuuun to make notes for what with the whole point of Gaidens being expanding on The Lore.

Order offered Comona a pastrami bagel sandwich from the 'concession stand' (the fridge.) Ryan Does Not Trust The Food Here. They're recording live from the labordertory for, not a kerfuffle proper, but an inhouse tournament. The commentators were invited both to keep things entertaining, and show off her fearsome creations to the world.

Ryan: "Dr. Order's got one goal- well, a lot of goals but the main thing right now is that she wants to create the ultimate fighter, a being capable of winning CPU Kerfuffle." 16 person single elimination tournament, because Order's got a lot of bastards to evaluate and she doesn't tolerate losers. She wouldn't let her champion be someone who'd proven themself capable of failing.

Order, in order to set up this tournament, set off a 'biological amber alert,' placed in every one of her creations' bodies that recalls them to the lab. Ryan: "not ALL of the creations answered the call to come back- if you recall google from last tournament, he isn't here- but there are other creations who didn't bother to come back due to, y'know, just general dislike." This is one of those little lore bits thats so fucked up. So fucked up. Dr. Order can and will just ping a fucker's brain. Imagine being traumatized by a fucked up science lady and finding out she can just ping your Fucking Brain whenever she wants. No ignoring her! No pretending she can't hurt you anymore! She's in your Fucking Brain Now! Between this and things like the nccts' remotely triggered perfect spriteman transformation and Larry and J0hn's whole Bit. 'someone has done something to your body. A violation. A permanent damage. You might have agreed to it in theory, you might not have, but it doesn't matter. it wasn't supposed to be like this, and either way, things will never be the same. you don't have the same control over it anymore. All you can do is manage what comes in the aftermath.' hits. sci-fi flavored medical malpractice trauma

Also between this ping system and Quad's fucking bio-signature radar shit for finding her that led him to susan (which her other creations potentially also have, assuming theyre not One And The Same Function, given Larry's vague comment of 'also getting the vibes' from Susan when Quad and the tests came back positive for a match, the arrogance is on full display. Woman with SO many experiments that hate her: 'i will give them all an innate radar for finding their all-important creator. Surely they will not ultimately unionize and kill me' its more shocking that they mostly didnt than if they would have. Im not even ten minutes into this episode,

First up- the Dimensional Bus. Jay usually takes it to get here for commentating, being from another dimension and all, but he's not here because the bus is busy with this. Chat member: "is this just the magic school bus?" Ryan: "kind of, it is a living, breathing bus, except this one can go between dimensions while that one could only really go through Arnold."

Returning fighter, Dan in his miserable new job as a lab assistant! Allegedly got fired from his ICEE job because he uppercutted an ICEE machine and busted it, so now hes here. People's champ! 

Another returning fighter and fan favorite, Machiavelli! He was excited for this! His first tournament was so fun!!! He's excited for this!

Mach 2! A supposed evolution upon Machiavelli's floorplan, created as a backup in case Machiavelli ever defected, and, due to this and how beloved Machi is, (and by design, as we later learn when CPUK Orange rolls around,) Mach 2 has developed a bit of an inferiority complex and intends to prove himself the better of the two. According to the submission, not exactly a clone of machiavelli, but made from the same core genetic base but with alterations, taking loose inspiration for the shape of him somewhat from Machi's friendship with genfour, previously genwun, hence the pokemon-ish appearance. I think Mach 2 brought this up in 23, i don't remember the exact words but I recall him taking offense to the label of Clone and going 'im not a clone! Im not a clone! I read my file Im Not A Clone!'

Perfect Spriteman! The commentators were surprised to learn Spriteman's new and dreadful form had been the Doctor's doing. He has been a plant for months please god someone help him

Winston Overwatch fell from the moon and got taken in by Dr. Order in exchange for his collaboration and Winston's fine with this as long as he gets some ankles out of the deal. Winston, audibly smiling: "Im only going to be using my ultimate in this game! Because Im Mad As Fuck!" His guns and such are not allowed in the lab because Dr. O doesn't trust him not to break anything.

Google Plus. She just made another one. partly out of spite, partly just to even her roster back out after his defection, with what she deemed Google's biggest flaws removed. 'It doesnt feel, think, or grow- just a series of if-then statements that does nothing of its own volition.' Ryan: "I think Order's goal here is to just. Not get the shit beaten out of her by a web browser anime boy gijinka this time." Comona: "never again." Ryan: "I mean. We'll see what happens."

Hackerbot J0hn! Ryan talks about j0hn like a fully robotic, fully artificial guy who can just disguise as being realistically human if so desired for much of this episode, although this is later determined not to be the case. Dr. Order's primary goal in modifying john was apparently exactly what was technically achieved- to create a machine that appears human in every way- finding means of emulating emotion and appearance and everything through machinery- and is capable of modifying and improving upon itself. she just apparently achieved this by extensively cyborg-ing a hacker and roboticist who already knew how to do that stuff to other robots. with ryan later implying she did very little to ensure his survival of the process of getting cyborg'd, and how her creations keep wising up and ditching her, boy howdy j0hn really was just a trial run in every way for her. She was a total lamo to j0hn's entire body indeed. With how much monitoring she did of all her creations and the tournament overall, I wonder if she ever attempted to plagiarize any of j0hn's self-modification or did he and larry rip the spyware type shit out of themselves first and foremost. Could larry even safely remove that stuff given hes much more uh. Flesh-y? questions questions questions. 

Anyway. j0hn can in fact switch freely between -bot and -man form without issue so again, the sweating and discomfort described from his intro ep switch is Interesting, especially considering other instances of what can be retroactively ascribed to some level of script-awareness.

My Grunk! Its zombie! Mean-spirited parody of Home's revival of the grunk. Comona: "not only poorly executed, but tasteless!" Ryan: "yeah, dr. order, wheres your ethics? Your Hip Of Cratic Oath?"

Subzero Amalgam- this one was just order fucking around. She was curious about the experience of sustained extreme cold, and so she made a guy who is always extremely fucking cold. She, apparently, just found other uses for him and his nature later. Its interesting to me that subzero is one of the doctors' only creations that remains loyal to her and probably the only one that remained loyal that isn't being naive as of the nccts and is also one of the only ones that wasn't made with a particularly restrictive goal in mind- he was made to be cold. Hes cold. Hes succeeded by nature of birth and cannot fail her because that was all he was meant for in the first place, everything else is just a bonus.

The Carrot Collective! Was supposed to be an olimar. lol. According to the submission information, a psychic hivemind of carrots grown by patch farms in collaboration with Dr. Order. Each individual body's life is very short, but more sprout up to replace them and the collective mind lives on unaffected. The fighter bodies we see are little mechas the carrots pilot for smash purposes because its difficult to have a traditional and fair 3-stock game against an army of regeneratively immortal psychic carrots. Likes to be called C.C. for short. 

Crimsonaut. Little guy!!! Beloved!!! Dr. Order launched this little dude into The Crimson (location) to research it's nature and he came back from that little expedition Perfectly Fine, aside from some very permanently dyed gear. Totally uncontaminated otherwise, he was carefully screened upon his return. (lol. lmao.) Does have a bit of a personal bone to pick with the doctor due to the overall inhumane and scary nature of said forced research trip, though. The carrots like him, so some of them have a tendency to follow him around too.

Zapmouse! Angy rat that hates the doctor so so so much. so so so so so so so much. Dr. Order subjected him to Fuckt Up Experimence and he showed up to the tournament looking for an opportunity for revenge.

Nuke Suit! Somewhat unstable robot suit powered thoroughly by nuclear energy.

Recon Riley! Dr. Order's intel specialist, modified for stealth and acting as her spy on kerfuffle since the tournaments started. If Dr. O needed to know something about any given fighter, Riley's on the job. Genderfluid and uses any pronouns interchangeably.

There was one last open position that the doctor expected someone to arrive to fill- specifically Not google- but they never showed up, and so Sephiroth stepped into that empty placement in the Doctor's tournament. Think the implication with the twist grudge match at the end of this gaiden is that this spot was meant for Larry.

Dr. Order and Sephiroth fight for the exhibition. Sephiroth takes the win as expected.

First match- My Grunk vs. The Carrot Collective! Ryan: "I think Dr. Order's operating on a misled hypothesis- I think she thinks what's made The Grunk so strong is being brought back from the dead, but i think its more complicated than that. the grunk has a spirit that doesn't really… translate. My Grunk is very Zombielike. No life in him. No spirit. Now the carrot collective? I see spirit there." funny

My Grunk struggles with KOs, a single carrot surviving to almost 200% on first stock. Ryan: "My Grunk being this archetype of character requires a lot of micromanaging and planning the original grunk was not slowed down by. The Grunk was not and did not need to be… cunning." Comona: "theres a difference between a natural raw fighting instinct and battling with a spartan mind. and the grunk is not the latter." The match keeps close, but the carrots take it. Ryan has to fix the overlay and almost accidentally puts captain crimson in trying to put up the carrots. Comona: "that man is never allowed back in here again. That man is banned. From Life, even."

Chat member: "dr. order is just recording everything you guys say commentating, are y'all like… okay with that?" Ryan: "shes been monitoring everything thus far already and she hasn't gotten anything from our commentating so far, I don't see what difference it makes." Comona: "we broadcast on public channels, the information's already out there regardless." Ryan: "its about as much our fault as anybody's." sure bud.

Grunk WOULD play minceraft. But not hardcore mode he'd last all of seven minutes

My Grunk manages to take it to a game 3, munching on some nerfed meat. Comona: "NEVER NERF GRUNK'S MEAT!" Ryan: "I had a bit of discussion with Dr. Order about the Carrot Collective- we dont know a lot about these fighters, a lot of these guys are new- and while my grunk is pretty self-explanatory, just kind of mindless, yknow, like a zombie, Carrot Collective actually, is a collaborative effort with patch farms and is a relative to Corn on the Cob and the like." Comona: "I like that, its nice." Ryan: "just a nice little happy family!"

The carrots have a very funny SD and do not successfully climb out of the deficit it puts them in, and theyre first out of the tournament to the commentators and chat's disappointment. Dr. Order mentions disinterestedly the Collective's interest in joining up with Team Craken, so its not like they're going away. Ryan almost gave the win to the carrots by accident and the commentators reassure us that they would Never alter the results of a tournament in their own interest because theyre a respectable, upstanding establishment. Somewhere plum sneezes 

Round 2, the unstable nuclear suit, vs. Machiavelli! Comona: "a lot of people arent gonna want to fight that, theyre gonna be like 'oh no, i dont know, what if something goes wrong-' Machiavelli does not care about that." Ryan: "Machiavelli's here to have a good time even if that means endangering everyone." Machiavelli LOVES to smash nuclear weaponry with comically oversized looney tunes mallet

Nuke suit was designed for anti-air capabilities and Machi loves to float, so round one is mostly a learning experience. I wonder how, with how order is, that Machi's so thoroughly decided 'fighting is for having fun and playing <3' moreso than winning. particularly in ncct 1 that interaction where they excitedly say they think larry's closer to the ultimate fighter because he's so versatile, 'shifty all the time!' even though he lost, and all.

Machi does a silly little happy dance when he takes nuke suits second stock in the second match. Machi's playing baseballs with Rockets. Machi, lets nuke suit take it to last stock for fun, for the Excitement, and eats a 2-0 for it. Nuke suit moves on. Order doesnt particularly react to this, just keeping a close eye on the nuke suit's instability. Machi and the Carrots leave to hang out in the lab's breakroom.

Zapmouse vs Winston Overwatch. A haunted rat in a haunted lab, seeking the most violent sort of revenge… and a funny monkey also. Winston wants to use zapmouse like a gun and zapmouse is Not Having It. Zapmouse plays careful and smart and gets a solid damage lead at the start in the first match but unfortunately, his opponent is A Fucking Gorilla. Zapmouse prevents a 3 stock but Winston wins handily. Winston has made an enemy today. Second match is much more even. Zapmouse loves zapping people off ledges. Winston swats him like a fly for last stock, winning 2-0. Zapmouse wanders off snarling.

Sephiroth taking the absentee spot and subzero amalgam is introed with Hey Ya- WHATS COOLER, THAN BEING COOL. Ryan: "so, we dont really know much about subzero amalgam personality-wise, but we do know subzero was only made to make a guy that knows what itd be like to be very very cold. So judging from that I cant imagine subzero's a very big fan of doctor order." Comona: "Subzero's actually so cold, its vocal box doesn't work properly, so it all just comes out as beeps. If Subzero was able to be warmer he would sound like a relatively normal man." nccts said 'lol. lmao. subzero's actually one of her only creations thats loyal to her still and is probably one of the most eloquent of them all when those beeps are translated <3'

Puzz asks in chat if subzero amalgam has any connection to ICEE and ryan says ICEE might be willing to eat him if you artificially flavored him. if he weren't sentient making that effectively cannibalism, of course. but there's no connection. awesome

Commentators keep ascribing a deathwish to subzero due to the horrors of being cruelly made just to be so very VERY cold. Subzero loses and Ryan says subzero's mostly just upset he isn't dead yet. Also that Subzero and Zapmouse are suffering buddies. Subzero left pretty much immediately after losing 2-0 to sephiroth, wandering off for whatever reason. 

Spriteman vs. Hackerbot J0hn! Comona praises J0hn and Spriteman's professionalism, and Ryan says the report from the field is that J0hn will swap back to human form if bot form proves disadvantageous. It proves disadvantageous. Perfect Spriteman is vicious and playing honest with the projectiles is NOT helping, and Bot form is going in his pocket for now as we get a scene, heard through the Copious Amount of Recording Equipment in the lab, Because the Dr. Is A Freak About It. J0hn: "you… you bastard. You used to be just like me- what happened? Why did you abandon who you were?" Perfect Spriteman, trying to speak and failing: "sprite… sprite…" J0hn, clearly disturbed: "....what the Fuck? Okay??? Alright??? I mean I went with this form because I was expecting a pushover, but maybe I was wrong. Let's do this motherfucker."

Comona speculates Dr. Order doesn't really like or want J0hn hanging around the lab in -Man form because that hacking sword is Worrying for her. Also suggests J0hn can hack opponent's minds to read for what they're going to try next, which... thats an application of script awareness/sensitivity ive wondered about before- if you can read the script and someone's current thoughts are important enough to get logged in it wouldnt that make you effectively Slightly, Incidentally capable of reading minds, if only usually for the Narratively Important ™️ bits, and communication over the script in a telepathy-like form is smthn that happens a few times during the nccts between people capable of percieving and manipulating it, particularly cosmic with the other non-cobalt gods. Certain workings of the script appearing to function like supernatural psychic phenomena to the unknowing eye. Chartreuse and Crimson have had unsecured script-based twin telepathy and known they were fictional characters since they were like. born probably. and just. never directly told or explained any of this to cobalt ever and still havent. Im rambling this tangent's barely relevant to the gaiden at hand

J0hn takes first stock with an effective usage of glass cannon protocol (smash art.) Sprite is dissolving the plant's brain and he is playing DUMB this match, j0hn taking it to a round 3.

Perfect Spriteman is just gasping and sputtering 'sp-sprite…' and J0hn looks on. "Jesus Christ, what'd Doctor Order do to you…? Looks like I gotta get you back to the way you used to be, my man." Ryan sets the rule as: if J0hn wins with two stocks or more, spriteman will be cured. J0hn is decidedly doing considerably better in -man form, but alas Spriteman is still a vicious battle freak. J0hn, after losing: "wish the best for ya, my man. If you ever feel like coming back to reality, I'll be right here for ya."

Crimsonaut vs Google Plus! Crimsonaut described as being of a nervous disposition, but again, Ticked Off about Dr. Order abandoning him in an alternate evil dimension that he 'barely made it out of with his life' and Google Plus as not really… having a personality yet. Just if/then statements. Crimsonaut, to Dr. Order and about Google Plus: "I want to destroy you, and everything you stand for, and I'll start with your little pet project here!" Considering the slimey hiss of a voice Comona gives him here and how Crimsonaut stands guard during the raid and how Crimson attempted a coup in the bad timeline and calls the doctor a freak when orange rolls around this bit is fun. This bit is fun.

Their first match has Plus in the lead to start with, but Crimsonaut evens out the damage and although plus takes first stock, Crimsonaut takes them back to even shortly after. However, an unfortunate offstage fumble Plus takes advantage of costs the little man an early second stock, Plus having a little throwback to Bing in terms of enjoying those offstage dunks. Crimsonaut takes it to a close last stock anyway with a lot of careful play, but Plus takes it. Ryan: "Crimsonaut's been working with the Doctor for a long time. if you trust a guy to take your stuff into a different dimension you probably trust them with a lot- he's probably been familiar with her if/then programming pretty long, granted he's been away for a while now, but he still knows her style."

Crimsonaut embarrassingly early first stock in round 2 😔 but crimsonauts got good momentum and puts enough damage on fast enough to even things out again. Plus appears to begin… malfunctioning somewhat. Having some weird reactions intermittently. The match goes down to last stock, evenly high damage playing ledge games until Plus throws out an illogical move that Works, taking Crimsonaut's last stock and winning 2-0. Comona: "i hate to bring this up, but… d'ya think google's gotten into Google Plus's head? That didnt seem like an if/then scenario." Ryan describes Dr. Order looking worried about the situation unfolding and covering the window she's watching the combat from when she noticed him looking. Ryan looks at Orders cybersecurity monitoring setup and can't See any outside influence causing the apparent disruption, but he's not sure, they'll have to wait and see. Comona describes how if they were Order, they'd be keeping a close eye on their creations because yet another rogue element could be dangerous for her.

The Dimensional Bus who abandoned Jay at the station, vs Mach 2! Mach 2 is mentally locked on doing better than his predecessor, who got out round one, by taking this chance and kicking the bus's ass. The Dimensional Bus was with Crimsonaut when they ventured into the Crimson and made it out just fine. Unclear if this means the Bus was stranded with Crimsonaut and came back with him or ditched him there by himself at some point to return to its job of ferrying people between worlds, but the latter seems more likely as it sounds like Crimsonaut only got back really recently and the bus was In Use in previous episodes. The Bus was also thoroughly screened for Crimson contamination and came back clean, but considering Crimsonaut smuggled Crimson in unnoticed through the same screening process, the only reason I trust that is because Dan beats the hell out of the Bus later and not a thing comes of it crimson-ways.

Mach 2 takes round one, but in round 2 as the commentators completely fail to pay attention to the match discussing music tastes instead, he does markedly worse, feeling even more inferior that the people being paid to be here to commentate on his fight could not give a shit less because theyre more concerned with talking about Nickelback. Pour one out for Mach 2's round 2, run over by the vengabus.

Round 3 opens STRONG with mach 2 footstooling the bus into a pit, but the bus takes mach 2's first stock and pineapples him for the second, creating a reversal of the lead that mach 2 cannot climb out of the pit of. Mach 2's absolute nightmare scenario. He loses. 

Mach 2, very upset, calls out Machi to come settle a score. Machi: "Okay! :D" its grudge match time! Comona: "I know this is probably a fairly even match but i can't help but get like, yamcha vs. the saibamen vibes." Ryan: "yeah, mach 2's about to get yamcha'd." Chat member: "vegeta level complex, yamcha level winstreak." The match IS actually quite even, although Machi keeps at least a small lead the whole time. Machi, in his littol baby voice as he closes last stock: "nothing personal, Mach 2!" and teleports behind him kicking him into the blast zone. Mach 2 is left facedown in a crater yamcha posed while Machi gives his limp, motionless body a hug before walking off.

Chat member asks if mach 2's like, actually dead and ryan clarifies no, he doesn't like killing off characters for anything less than big stakes and even then he brought the grunk back, they didnt even kill crimson really, just banished him. Chat Member: "except light pit." Ryan: "oh SHIT i forgot, light pit DID get canonically killed by palutena."

Lab Intern Dan vs Recon Riley! Ryan intros Riley with a homestuck reference. Recon Riley is the ninja, the secret agent, the silent watcher thats so hard to come to terms with the presence of this whole time due to their skill in moving unnoticed and untouched. Dan and Riley are both employees here, but Riley's the one with the status, that actually gets to sit at the meetings that Dan brings coffee to. Comona: "Dan's not an avaricious man, but he probably thinks 'man, it'd be cool to be the one that gets a seat at the table.'" Riley is stated to be genderfluid here because Ryan noticed he was playing fast and loose with the pronouns in regard to them so hes deciding thats because she uses any/all of 'em. 

Despite TWO self-destructs from fumbled kill attempts, Dan takes Riley to last stock, and then he SDs again. dan's said to put so much time into 9-5ing that he has almost no time for doing or practicing things he actually enjoys. Feel that buddy 😔 Riley's only real combat strength is being a mosquito. Being fast and hard to hit and unmerciful. But that wont help when dan has the Giant Fist. Get uppercut'd nerd its game 3 time. After that uppercut kill dan's feeling CONFIDENT and he gets out to a strong strong lead. As things go to last stock and dan has a dramatic damage lead, Riley's only beginning to panic about losing to the rank and file employee right as its about to happen, and Dan socks riley with a jab for last stock

My Grunk vs Nuke Suit! Comona praises that nuke suit is just a learning combat ai suit with no sentience at all whatsoever and that's what Dr. Order's stuff works best as. Ryan reminds that Nuke Suit is potentially very dangerous due to its nuclear nature, and also compares its robotic nature to Google Plus's. First match between these two- if you get distracted for even a moment you will miss nuke suit losing its first two stocks. My Grunk takes it. Nuke Suit shifts to what the commentators call an 'unstable form.' Ryan: "my grunk? Sweetie? Be Careful."

My Grunk, immediately: (makes a dick shaped dirt sculpture between bullying nuke suit with fire, trying to blow it up with dynamite and taking apart a plane with his bare hands)

Commentators start considering evacuating the building before getting messaged by J0hn that they can relax, nothings gonna blow up the nuke suit's full of shit. He was monitoring the situation and it was just in Intimidation Mode, using the appearance of instability to try to get an edge in combat by making its opponent panic. Dr. Order: bad person, interesting ideas!

Sephiroth vs Winston Overwatch. Sephiroth hates this fucking ape and wants to prove he can get further than midway into a tournament. Winston yeets sephiroth's twink ass like an empty can for the first stock and its VERY funny. Most of this first game is vine jokes, match commentary and very silly kills. Funny Monkey GETS him. Round 2 is more in sephiroth's favor, and a lot of the commentators begging for winston to fucking GET him with the funny donkey punch in his very punchable face. Winston ALMOST reverse 3-stocks. but sephiroth HAD to rob us of it. Sephiroth: "how could you take me to my limit?!" Winston: "Hehe, hi there, im a funny monkey." Sephiroth, responding to the audience: "...how do they know… about the weights in my shirt?" And goes shirtless. Winston wonders what he'd look like with pink hair (due to a silly skin misclick), completely disengaged from the anime dramatics.

Sephiroth: "This Is More Of A Tits Out Kind Of Look." Chat Member: "sephiroth now weighs as much as a pichu." Winston overwatch sends him straight to hell with a stomp. Hell is said to be in paris but i think this is just ryan making an overwatch map joke in context. This being said it would be very funny. Sephiroth wins with his shirt off in an electrically close down to the wire match. Winston then immediately raids Dr. Order's breakroom for its stock of peanut butter and immediately dips. Ryan: "respect the grift, my man." Winston overwatch becomes accomplice to war criminal for some fucking peanut butter

Spriteman vs. Google Plus! Spriteman's still lost in that sauce called sprite. Perfect Spriteman takes advantage of Plus's general predictability to read him again and again. Google Plus is still behaving a bit erratically- possibly due to outside interference, possibly not, it's unclear yet, but it could be contributing to why Plus is losing here. Ryan: "both of these people are… very very damaged by Doctor Order and need to come to terms with it- Plus being entrenched in pure objectivism and Perfect Spriteman is just all about… obsession." I know what ryan Meant here but hearing 'Google Plus is into objectivism' took a year off my life never imply Plus reads ayn rand ever again even on accident please and thanks (lighthearted)

After losing to Spriteman and after certain weird aspects of his match with Crimsonaut, Plus questions the effectiveness of the if/then logic format he's been acting based on due to it returning inconsistent results despite being based on consistent reasoning, and decides to reformat his thought processes and seize control, 'becoming sentient' in his words. He just sort of decided "ok this isnt working perfectly 100% of the time. ergo clearly i have to be at least enough of a person to figure out what actually DOES work.' Doesnt make him do any better fighting perfect spriteman in though. Plus checks his database for what to do about failure, finds nothing, decides next action based on newly acquired 'sentience' and wipes both his queries and an unnamed External Force from mind and demands a battle with the Doctor.

Doctor Order's head is in her hands. She doesn't know why this keeps happening. (My money's on 'cant make a thing Detect spectrum if it cant understand what spectrum is at the baseline, that being art and connection, something that requires complex nonliteral thought and the ability to process communication and emotion to thoroughly get. Not to Philosophy of Art but elephants can slap abstract strokes of paint on a canvas and AI can recombine assets to make a new image but far as im concerned without communication and interpretation its not really anything grander than the blunt sum of its parts by itself, and while you can interpret both those examples if you feel like it you cant feel a communication of intent bc to an elephant the paintbrush might as well be a stick with mud on it thats fun to smear on things and to an ai its just data because it doesnt Think like we do. There isn't the same Artistic Intent in the action because it couldn't begin to process art the same way we do. We can make it art through interpretation but it was not created with intent of making art by what made it, even if the zookeepers and the users of the AI or the people who had their data scraped to train it had artful intentions, because art is a Human Thing, so there is something always just. Missing. anyway.) Plus is kicking her ass. Stop making animeboy web browsers. You only have yourself to blame doc. 

There's the suggestion made in this episode that maybe there's something special about Bing thats lead to Goog and Plus's awareness, but honestly Especially in hindsight i don't buy it he's just a guy to me. No amount of Technique (nccts) can convince me otherwise. I think Bing could do that where Dani couldn't because he is simultaneously so relevant (by extension of goog and now dani) and irrelevant that he could both enter the void and not be claimed by it and no other reason. I think making him special is unnecessary and would be distracting, although he'd probably disagree with me. The idea that goog and mac have to be made from someone special to be special is rey palpatine logic to me

Comona: "i think that Google Plus playing reactively now instead of distracting himself trying to process a bunch of different scenarios all at once bodes well for the mechanical being that he is." Ryan: "yeah, for a guy made of flowcharts hes reacting very well, abandoning the flowcharts is probably the best decision hes made." Doctor Order loses to an uptilt and goes back to her viewing box grumbling irritably about it happening again, and snaps that it doesnt matter, Plus might not have emotions or whatever but he still lost the tournament, so if he wants to leave then go AHEAD, because she won't be using him anyway. Plus: "Victory achieved. Seeking further victory." And marches out of the lab to go pick some fights like an unbothered king

Dan vs The Dimensional Bus! Dan can, should, must and WILL demolish a FUCKING bus. He did get tazed in the ass in the process but its fine its fine its fine. Dan prints out memes and puts them on the fridge in the breakroom and is also good as fuck at peggle. Thoroughly destroyed that fuckin bus in both rounds. Ryan: "if you told me at the start of this tournament that dan would be in top 4 i would have laughed you out of the room."

My Grunk vs. Sephiroth. Sephiroth fought grunk proper last tournament so thats funny. Ryan: "oh god, i've just realized that of the 16 people here only a few of them weren't created by doctor order and two of them are in top four. I think Dr. Order kind of sucks." Sephiroth, stuck in a minecart: "i will show this minecart despair." Alas the zombie cant compete well with Sephiroth From Sephiroth, and round one is Cruel. Chat asks if Riley is a creation of Dr. Order and Ryan replies yes, but only in the sense that Riley was Modified for stealth by Order, they were born a regular person.

Perfect Spriteman vs. Dan! Perfect Spriteman takes first round pretty easily and handily, but someone gets sent down to let Dan know how many people are cheering for him. Dan: "...What? They're cheering for me? What? I'm just a Guy. You sure? You're not confusing me for someone else? Me? ME? I feel like you've gotta be messing with me here, but I win, I lose, its for you guys, aight? Stay frosty, motherfuckers." Commentators discuss how cpu kerfuffle true ending is Dan getting to be champ and how he should be in charge actually as Dan takes first stock, and the match is fun and tense as dan works hard to successfully pull it to a round 3. 

Dan apparently knows and feels next to NOTHING about what's specifically going on with the labs, he's just here for the paycheck. He doesn't even know Perfect Spriteman used to be a guy. which i mean yeah makes sense his first fuffle was already after Spriteman transformed. Ryan: "hes just here to punch." Comona: "hes just like 'oh theres a monster? I mean thats kind of normal for kerfuffle so whatever'" Ryan: "I was here for like. kerfuffle 5 to fight hamburger helper. this is nothing." Ryan makes a comment on the match about CPUs not being smart enough to make a particular play a human could go for and Comona shushes him and Ryan goes "oh yeah i forgot." Match is tense enough the commentators dont comment on much else. Ryan: "The pressure is on- but I don't think Dan's feeling it because he doesnt realize just how many people are watching and rooting for him, and I dont think perfect spriteman even realizes he's in a tournament right now hes just acting on base instinct." Spriteman takes last stock, winning 2-1.Dan pushes Spriteman out of center stage a little bit to say something. Dan: "that guy on the side said there were people watching this and… cheering? for me? So I still don't know if this whole thing is a bit, so I'm gonna preface this whole thing with that because if I'm being played for a goddamn idiot right here and like, you're gonna put this in a cringe compilation or something thats some Bullshit- but to all you people out there cheering for me… thank you so much. Im not sure if you all know it, but god DAMN does that mean so much to me. To know that like- even though my life's been Failure after Failure that like- theres still people out there chanting my name- APPARENTLY, according to that guy- so uh- if this is a cringe compilation you BETTER not post that shit- but if it isnt… thanks you guys. I'm gonna hit up steak and shake." I want to hug him. I want to hug him so bad it makes me look stupid. 

Sephiroth vs Perfect Spriteman, Grand finals! Fast and tense set. Sephiroth takes game one, directly demanding to be taken seriously as an antagonist and like, with the metanarrative element grand kerfuffle and the nccts introduced with time that's Funny. Commentators reiterate how funny sephiroth doing so well is when he wasn't even supposed to BE here, someone just didn't show up. During the second match, the commentators hear something go off somewhere in the lab- some kind of distant siren or alert. Second match goes to a last stock situation, and Spriteman clinches it, taking it to a game 3. The shirt comes off, theyre on new donk and sephiroth is leading and hes being scary scary scary and then he sds, choking in the silliest way possible and never recovers. The tournament's winner, and calibur's representative for the next tournament is Perfect Spriteman! 

But before the commentators can finish announcing that, Dr. Order arrives on the scene with an urgent announcement: "Listen, everyone, theres been a break-in, and we need to lock down and take care of the problem, every stay where you are and once the intruder has gone away-" and shes interrupted. "Ho ho, you want to stop NOW huh? Maybe you should've stopped when you gave me all of this… bullshit! Don't get me wrong, I love the bullshit, but I still think you've gotta pay!" And Larry appears, first as himself, and then as his 'true form' melts away to get set for a random roll: "Listen, you made this bed, time for you to lie in it!" Dr. Order: "I've had enough of this shit anyway. Doesn't matter what happened. I will have Perfect Spriteman as my champion, and you'll see, in the next tournament, Perfect Spriteman will-" Larry, cutting her off and starting the match: "Yeah, yeah, whatever." Comona, as Larry: "Pull up those yoga pants and come for a fight, 'cause I'm looking for one."

Larry rolls ryu. This does not bode well. Ryan, now looking into the Doctor's files, determines Florida Man was once just a joker, but after interacting with Dr. Order, became what he is now with the powers of shapeshifting. Dr. Order takes first stock. Order: "you think I couldn't best my own creations?" Larry: "yeah, I talked to google!" Dr Order keeps a strong lead, but Larry IS out here playing street fighter. Larry, comboing her: "hey doc Google Plus showed me how flowcharts work Check This Shit Out!" Alas, while Larry does Pretty Damn Good for a Ryu, he gets footstooled and loses his last stock. Doctor Order, looking down on him: "you really thought you could come back, and you could defeat me? After all this?" Larry laughs, on the ground. "Yeah, its called making it past seventh in a tournament. But hey, you know the curse you gave me. You win some… you lose some. I'm getting the hell out of here. I know you're so PROUD of ~Perfect Spriteman~ but you aren't so proud of yourself, are ya?" Dr. Order tries to snap back "I dont NEED to be-" but larry, not letting her finish, turns into meta knight and teleports away with his cloak, and Squid Jenny delivers the finalized cast list for the next episode.

[despair-to-future-arcs]

Meanwhile!

Location: Orphanage

Time: 12:55 PM

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-As say, we are interrogating the Junko clones as we speak.

And what did you pick up?

Well it seems they were followers of Junko and pretended to be her, even going to the Ultimate Imposter to impersonate her perfectly during her final moments and it seems that now, they'll agree to turn themselves in peacefully.

Hmph, if she were the real thing I would of beaten the shit out of her...

...Sir, I would recommend you keep your anger under control, we are working on it and I think you can let me handle this, alright? Anyway-.

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*Monaca watch the meeting as it continue but then stops* Hope won again and despair loss, I thought there be fighting or an execution.

Monaca wanted to see hope and despair class but even then it turn out peacefully somehow... why are things getting so boring, Big sis Junko say this was the excitement and unpredictability.

Well... Monaca will keep waiting until despair happens, puhuhuhuuu!

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Well honestly I think the tragedy being done is a good thing you edgelord.

???: Sunako? It's lunch...

Hm? Oh... hello miss Nijiue, I suppose your here to drop lunch?

Well I was calling you to come down but I see your busy, want me to bring lunch for you?

Actually, I'm nearly done - just finish up some files...

Honesly reading these files the Warriors of Hope wrote, especially their commandments is giving me a headache trying to understand half of them and their 'punishments' supposedly.

[thelovelypoems]

The one only time Yin in her entire life has ever told anyone to shut up and it was used on this guy. And Hei preceded to also told him to shut up!

[everydaydg]

Alright... lets do this

I will start with a few games ive already started in 2023 but will need to put in some dedication to finish them.

I yknow its less work but I havent finish SJ in 2 years sooo... I might as well make a short list with em

with a small parathesis with my progress at the time of writting this

Contact (DS) (Currently in mid game)

Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (DS) (mid to late game)

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (PS2) (I just need to kill lucifer god damm it)

Profesor Layton and the Curious Village (DS) (Early game)

Rockman.EXE Operate Shooting Star (DS) (Mid to late game)

Super Robot Wars W (DS) (Late game)

Trauma Center: Under the Knife 2 (DS) (Extremely early game)

Retro Game Challenge 1 & 2 (DS) (Mid Game/ Early to Mid game)

Front Mission (DS) (This is a bit maybe ngl. I may or may not pick it up this year, early game)

Hotel Dusk: Room 215 (DS) (Somewhat early game)

Grim Fandango Remastered (PC) (Year 2 onwards, did year 1 in late 2023)

Eschatos (PC)(Made it close to the end)

We <3 Katamari Reroll (This counts as a replay buuut I might as well put it here, started it in late 2023 and am in early to mid game)

Okami HD (PC) (Im not even sure I will finish this game its so god damm BIG)(Early game to less early game... I just finished the first arc man and that took 14 hours- theres like 5 of those)

Lost Planet 1 & 2 (I would play 2 already but im waiting till I can fix my second 360 controller to do co-op)(PC/360)(Early-Mid/Early game)

I might be missing a few but feasably... I can get some of these done

Alright now onto games that ive been thinking about playing!

Keep in mind that I wont finish ALL of this, I might have cleared arround 70 console games last year but some of these are hefty and I might change my mind on playing some this year. I do end up playing whatever comes to mind often so this list is more to keep track of what I want to play more than anything.

* = might not clear it this year but will play

Rodea The Sky Soldier (Wii)

Yggdra Union - We'll Never Fight Alone (GBA)*

Castlevania Portrait of Ruin (DS)

Chrono Trigger (DS)

Custom Robo: Arena (DS)*

A whole lot of Mega Man (Star Force 1*, Zero 4, Classic 4-6, ZXA, another replay of MM&B, Legends 2*)

Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (PC)

Bayonetta (PC)*

Blaster Master Zero 2****** (PC)(I say I will do it every year and every year I get a headache)

Bloodstained Curse of the Moon (PC)

Bloodstained Ritual of the Night (PC)

Disco Elysium - The Final Cut (PC)**

Getter Robo Daikessen! (PS1)

Nightshade (PS2)

Summer Carnival 92' RECCA (3DS VC, one clear)

Gurumin : A Monstrous Adventure (PC)

Kingdom Hearts (Chain of Memories, 2 or something else)

Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse (3DS)****

Onimusha 2 (PS2)

Xenoblade 1 (Wii)

Raidou 2 (PS2)

DDS 1 & 2 (PS2)

Nanobreaker (PS2) (I actually saw an ep of GCCX that had an interview with part of the nanobreaker staff)

Galerians & Galerians: Ash (PS1/PS2)

Gundam Side Story Series (Saturn & DC)

Darius Gaiden (Saturn)

Hresvelgr (PS2)

Super Mario 3D World (Wii U)

As per usual I will replay a bunch of stuff but yeah! I will try to do a good chunk of these.

but who knows, maybe my final list of the year will be wildly different

Yknow what.

Im going to make a list of games I want to play this year!

I didnt do this in 2023, as I tried to somewhat follow the 2022 list I didnt finish (spoilers, I still havent finished it lmao)

Ill start making one on a reblog

[nikadoesanart]

My predictions on BSD getting animated going forward

I’ll be taking a look at the novel page counts (Japanese and English) and comparing them to the screen time they’ve gotten so far and then using this to predict how long the remaining light novel adaptations will be (approximately). At the end will also be my rough prediction/hopes for the order of some of these being adapted. I say some because I have yet to read what there is so far of the gaiden novel translations, the main story manga has essentially still been on the DOA arc almost since where the anime left off, and I personally think that it’s currently too soon for Storm Bringer (aside from money purposes).

Note, most of this was written well before the anime 5th anniversary livestream but the announcements wound up not affecting it. I then of course made adjustments as needed account for the novel content we do have so far, both in Japanese and in English (officially).

Page to Episode Count

Not counting the afterward, ads, etc for the English/US copy, Japanese is including it

Also all eng page counts are using the Yen Press release and jp page counts are taken from the fandom wiki

*148 is purely counting the Untold Origins portion of the novel. If we also count the A Day at the Agency short story that’s included before it (56 pages), then we get the full 203

Also the English page count for BEAST was noted before the English release date but after page counts have been posted by affiliated retailers, so subtract a couple pages from the written count of 176 for the time being to account for the afterward and possible character sheets being included

Now that we have our page to episode counts (as of April 5th, 2021), let’s find the actual content run time of what we do have animated so far.

Seasons 1-3 and the OVA all have the same episode length/duration. Each episode is 23 minutes, and we can subtract 3 minutes on average from that to account for the OP and ED being played. This leaves us with an average of 20 minutes of BSD story content per episode. So on average, each of the first 3 seasons contain 240 minutes, or 4 hours, worth of story content.

Dead Apple’s total run time is 91 minutes, with the OP and ED making up 9 of those minutes. However, we do have a bit of the story content being played while the ED is playing (as sometimes happens in the anime as well). To keep the math simple, I’ll be approximating story content time at 82 minutes.

Apply these numbers to the novels that have been animated so far and this is (approximately) what we get:

Now let’s use these numbers to predict the screen time needed for the other novels

Note that we can’t really use Entrance Exam as a fair measure because of how much got cut out (just compare the run time of it to Dark Era and it speaks for itself). However, the numbers for Dark Era and Dead Apple are the best ones to use, as they both have minimal changes between anime and novel and both have official English translations currently available. Take out the approximate time taken up by OP/ED and and the numbers pretty much match up.

So with that being said, we can estimate Untold Origins (only) at approximately 3 eps/60 min and 55 Minutes at 1h 40-55min/100-115 min or 5-6 eps if it doesn’t get a movie. We can also estimate the A Day at the Detective Agency short story at the beginning of Untold Origins to take up about 1 ep, probably even a bit less.

1+ 3 + 5-6 = 9-10 episodes which isn’t enough for a full single cour season unless they all get put into one big OVA season, but also 10-11 eps (or less) seasons are a thing (ie. Fugou Keiji: Balance Unlimited, Blood Lad, Black Butler: Book of Circus, The Seven Deadly Sins: Signs of a Holy War, FLCL)

My personal predictions/hopes for the anime adaptation timeline going forward

This is considering the manga content, current “pausing/stopping points” what wouldn’t be too awkward, each of the novels relevancy/necessity to the main story manga, and assuming we continue with single cour (12-13 ep) seasons

Hopefully/ideally a 55 Minutes movie

S4: ch 54-70

Early S5 (preferably) or end of S4: Untold Origins or A Day at the Agency

S5: ch 71-88/around where we are now?

A Day at the Agency can, in my opinion at least, be chucked in at any point either as a single episode OVA or as the light novel content for s4 (maybe not even taking a full episode and then starting ch 54 in the last few minutes for example). Keep in mind that the current DOA arc is a long one and has plenty to it, so personally I think it may even be better to not include a novel adaptation in a future S4, as it would likely already be a right squeeze content wise. Remember, we also have a few XX.5 chapters that are continuations of the chapter directly before them.

I still need to read what’s currently available of the gaiden novel fan translations but it can probably be adapted at any point as well. I’m estimating approximately 5-6 eps as an OVA series. I don’t really think it would get a movie, partially because you can make it only so long, especially since it’s an anime movie and unlike Storm Bringer, it doesn’t have Chuuya to practically guarantee the profit.

BEAST also doesn’t directly impact the main story and can be adapted at virtually any point. However, seeing as we do have a live action confirmed for it and it’s page count lines up very closely with Dark Era, it can be either 4 eps or (more likely in my opinion) a movie, as it can be considered almost stand alone content.

Personally, I believe it is currently way too soon to animate Storm Bringer as it came out only a little over a month ago (as of writing this) and has minimal plot necessity as of ch 91, but I do believe it should be either split into 2 movies (a part 1 and part 2) or it would need 8 episodes, likely as an OVA season. If it were to get animated sooner than 55 Minutes or Untold Origins, which I believe to be very unlikely, I feel that it would almost certainly be driven by the financial gains of Chuuya being included, and his popularity alone. Reminder, SB is about Chuuya and not SKK. Dazai’s appearance in SB is proportionally a very small percentage and he’s not even mentioned in the official plot summary.

However, you can argue that SB is starting to have some relevance now, with the recent mention of the Order of the Clock Tower in ch 90 and the increased relevance of sealed ability weapons in ch 91. However, I really do believe that you can’t adapt Storm Bringer before 55 Minutes because of Standard Island and its treaty, it also talks about sealed ability weapons, knowing who Wells is, and 55 Minutes canonically takes place during the “downtime” portion of S3. In fact, here’s Asagiri’s words directly from the Afterward (translation by Yen Press):

“this volume didn’t take place in the past, but rather sometime after the tenth volume of the manga. In other words, it’s a tale about the ‘usual’ detective agency in novel format.” (55 minutes, p 237)

Untold Origins also should be adapted sooner rather than later (at least compared to SB in my opinion) because it’s about Ranpo and Fukuzawa’s shared past, which becomes increasingly relevant ch 70 onwards, as well as the need for the ADA being founded (which ties in with Yosano’s backstory in ch 65-66).

In regards to whether I think each of these would be better suited to a movie adaptation or as multiple regular length anime episodes, it’s mainly due to page count and partly due to the budget difference between the two, as well as how difficult I think it would be to animate each of these based on what needs to be drawn. The anime industry isn’t the fastest to switch to newer technology, hence why we see issues with 3D blending sometimes. I really do think that at the very least, 55 Minutes deserves the movie budget because of how detailed and complex the architecture of Standard Island is described as, as well all the mechanical parts needed for the final battle of the novel. Hate the lizard mouths introduced in Dead Apple all you want, but you can’t deny that the 3D cgi was blended very smoothly. For any of the other novels to be movies, it’s more so because gaiden and BEAST can be considered their own stand alone stories that don’t rely too heavily on the main story in terms of when they take place and get adapted. I feel that SB is more likely to get its own season or an OVA season more so due to its length, but multiple part anime movies have also been done before (ie. the Fate/Stay Night: Heaven’s Feel movies), so it’s not entirely impossible. Especially considering that merely having any Chuuya screen time means that you can expect the profit and popularity to really go up, especially with SKK being on screen together (regardless of whether you love or hate how the fandom tends to push a shipping POV on them).

These are all of course just my hopes and predictions and estimates based on information currently available, so take them with some salt. I’d love to hear opinions on how, when, and why each of the currently non animated novels should be adapted going forward. Also please stop begging the relevant BSD official Twitter pages for SB to be animated next and go read the other light novels you Chuuya simp

[catgirlcommie]

Do you have a place I can watch Magia record season 2?

it's on funimation if you want but also here you go: https://9anime.to/watch/magia-record-mahou-shoujo-madokamagica-gaiden-tv-2nd-season.ny8j/ep-1

[begtsats]

Darker Than Black: Kuro No Keiyakusha Gaiden ep.2