#fuck israel and anyone who even vaguely supports it

[ben-10-setting-omnicrom]

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What you're going through isn't war. It's genocide and always has been. Unfortunately I can't donate directly due to basically having no money myself. I'll definitely reblog your post though.

Anyone who supports Israel's genocidal actions and atrocities is a sick piece of shit completely undeserving of an iota of influence or power in any facet of society.

[grison-in-space]

Has Biden actually done anything at all? There's evidence going around and I think it's compelling, the alternate to voting is instead doing actual social work and participating in protests and organizing political action, which is a good idea i think

1) Yes. Inarguably this has been the most effective progressive domestic administration since I have been alive, and I'm in my thirties. What in the fuck are you talking about? It's not perfect, but it's better than we've seen in fifty years: Obama tried, but Democratic Congressional organization was just not yet used to working with a completely obstructionist GOP Congress in the wake of the tea party.

Even in terms of foreign policy, this is also pretty much as good as US involvement gets. Sorry. Our foreign policy has been shaped by monsters for decades, and that's even without dealing with our huge and active branch of Christian doom cultists. There ain't a candidate in the world that could stop the entire accumulated momentum of geopolitics with a snap of the finger, and I'm not really willing to pretend that Biden is particularly notable for not managing to fix Israel/Palestine relations.

2) In your own words, anon, what precisely does organizing political action entail without participating in the political process? Do you think that abstaining from the part of the gig where you, the citizen, get to say which official gets the job somehow makes your opinions matter more to your elected public officials? Have you ever organized to get so much as a municipal one-time library project budget expanded? Are you perhaps only skilled at political argument with people who already agree with you on the Internet?

What is your leverage, and could it reasonably be described as "extortion" or "blackmail" or "political corruption?" Because those are pretty much the only things on the table that can work more effectively to drive an elected official than a disciplined coalition of political allies (who can be purchased with, you guessed it, votes) or a reliable bloc of voter support. Your vote matters less than the ones you bring with you, sure. Do you think that not voting yourself somehow helps people organize to drive more votes? Have you perhaps replaced your complex reasoning skills with a rapidly dying jellyfish?

3) Holy passive vagueness, Batman! "Evidence is going around." What a masterpiece of a sentence! How it suggests everything while providing nothing! What evidence? Who collected it? Who is talking about the evidence "going around?" Who is listening? How many of them are there? What did they think before? The more I think, the more questions I have, and damn if they ain't predisposing me to be even less charitable.

Like, this is so catastrophically poorly supported that I have to confess that I not only believe this is probably an ask in bad faith (i.e. by someone who is expecting to piss me off or otherwise engage with me adversarially, probably spammed to a whole host of blogs at once with no expectation of response) but I actively hope that it is. The alternative is to have to grapple with the reality that some people are so uncomfortable with the responsibility of moral agency that they're willing to release useful levers of legal and social power just so that they never do anything problematic with that power. Much better, of course, to wash one's hands of anything that might have the stink of responsibility clinging to it. Might fall from the membership of the Elect if you actually get yourself all muddy by doing things, I reckon.

I don't even believe that voting is the only lever we have when it comes to our elected officials or that votes are necessary to secure change, and I am certainly not talking about the presidential ticket alone when I talk voting. What I do believe is two things: one, that voting is a potential lever of power on the emergent chaos of the society in which we live. And two, that anyone telling me to leave a lever of power on the ground without a damn good reason is either incompetent, malicious, or both.

[transmascpetewentz]

Was talking abt this with my family and decided this needed to be a post on the webbed site:

A fundamental way that antisemitism operates that makes it so difficult to remove from leftist spaces is by taking the broad scope of problems in the world and finding a couple that can be vaguely tied or related to Judaism in some way, then taking "this is tangentially related to Jews" to mean "Jews are 100% responsible for this." It's particularly this sentiment that I see echoed in most of the antisemitic posts that I see on the dash.

It's one of the reasons, imo, why the west is so focused on Israel as opposed to the situation in the Congo, Sudan, or Ukraine. All four of these situations suck and are very clearly, to any person observing, bad. However, only one of these awful situations where war crimes are being committed is one that I hear about every day, that I am told if I so much as block some tags relating to it that I am a bad person. And that's the one where people can blame The Jews for it.

Despite Russia currently committing what I would call a genocide against Ukrainians, many westerners who preach anti-colonialism are completely silent or worse. I thought that silence meant you are directly complicit? Odd, huh? Does this principle of being against historical imperial powers committing genocide against colonized people not apply when the colonized nation has more than three times the relative Jewish population compared to the colonizer?

Yep. And many of the most prominent antisemitic antizionists are completely pro-Russia because Russia claims to be against quote-unquote "western degeneracy," which is literal Nazi shit. As a Russian who regularly speaks out against slavophobia/russophobia/anti-Russian people sentiment on the left and the right, I am horrified by westerners' complete disregard for human life and basic moral principles to defend my country's genocide.

And this idea of blaming all tangentially-related problems on Jews isn't just showcased in how much people focus on Israel, but also in who gentiles tend to call "zionists" and the attributes that they prescribe onto anyone who is labeled a zionist. Zionism is a political movement with historical basis in Judaism, but the actual definition of zionism is irrelevant to the critique I am about to make. My issue is with how some gentiles define, or don't define, zionism.

I have said this before, but when some leftist gentiles are asked to name a few qualities that all zionists share, they might give a list that's something like this: they are pro-Israel, they support Israel's genocide of Palestinians, they are completely anti-Palestine, and they do not have nuanced takes on I/P. Of course, this is a batshit insane and very ahistorical take on zionism, but I would have less of an issue if these gentiles would stick to that definition and only call people zionists if they shared all of those qualities.

Instead, these same gentiles who claim that all zionists share these opinions will claim that any Jew, convert-in-progress, or ally that doesn't hate Jews is a zionist. This circles back to my first point about how antisemitism takes anything where Jews are involved and turns it into "Jews are The masterminds behind this." And that's exactly what this is. The label of zionist being applied to a non-zionist turns their views from nuanced and neutral to racist and genocidal in the eyes of antisemites.

The idea that all Jews one doesn't like must be behind some child-murdering conspiracy is an antisemitic one, no matter how real the child murder happening in Palestine is. Random Jews, even Israeli Jews, are not responsible for the actions of their government (which is being backed mostly by gentiles overseas, btw). Stop fucking taking any instance of a bad thing being tied to Jews or Judaism and blowing it up into calling Jews the masterminds behind it. There is no global conspiracy, no matter how much you wish there was for your daily dose of emotional support antisemitism.

Reading Comprehension Questions:

What do you think that OP means when they say "The Jews" with both the "t" and "j" capitalized? Is he using that language seriously, or is he trying to get another message across?

Is this a post about Israel and Palestine, or is this a post specifically addressing antisemitism within the pro-Palestine movement on the left? Additionally, does OP give any meaningful indication of his views on I/P within the post?

Why does OP talk for two paragraphs about the situation in Russia and Ukraine? How is OP more qualified than the average Tumblr user to have an opinion on Russia?

Why is OP, despite not being Jewish, making a post about this subject? How might OP be more qualified than the average gentile to make a post about antisemitism?

Does OP blame Palestinians for antisemitism on the left in this post? Does OP single out any specific ethnic or racial group as opposed to just gentiles?

Have I sat with and mentally answered to myself the above questions before I clicked on OP's page to send him an anon telling him to kill himself?

[rjalker]

I think we're gonna need a bigger bingo sheet. I literally just got done making a new one for July 2024 but then that. reblog. just came along and blew all of it out of the water. not even combining it with the original one from November can encompass the sheer what-in-the-absolute-fuck of it.

Well. Here's the new one anyways.

[ID: A bingo sheet titled, "Vote Blue No Matter Who 2024: Genocide Joe Biden, July edition!". It has a dark blue border with small stars, and the squares are in alternating pale red white and blue.

The squares read, from top to bottom and left to right: "Project 2025!" with many exclamation marks. "Genocide Joe is the most progressive president we've ever had!" "I just can't figure out why people are mad at poor sweet Joe" with an exaggerated sad emoticon. "Trump won in 2016 because people split the vote!" "It's only fascism if it threatens Americans!" with many exclamation marks "I don't give a single shit about anyone who's not an American and you shouldn't either. This is a progressive stance." "I'm going to reduce refusing to support genocide to vaguely being a 'single-issue' voter which I'm gonna pretend is childish and immature". "Israel-Hamas conflict". "Not voting for Biden is stupid!" "Not supporting genocide makes you a Cultural Christianity Puritan!" "Foreign election interference is when people make fun of the President of the United States" "Just because Biden isn't perfect is no reason to throw a tantrum!!" the free space in the center "Trump is actively pro genocide! Unlike Biden, who's literally comitting genocide." "The Most Powerful Man in the Most Powerful Country in the World™ is actually a weak helpless baby if he's wearing a blue hat" with a crying emoticon. "This is a democracy! That's why you have to vote for genocide or else!" "If you fucking Queers don't vote for my favorite genocidaire I'll laugh when you get put in concentration camps!" "You're being selfish by refusing to support genocide!" "You're the Real Racist™ if you refuse to support genocide", with an angry emoticon "Voting for genocide is the logical choice!" "If you don't vote for my favorite genocidaire, you're a Foreign Invader Threatening Real Americans!" "Voting for a third party is the exact same thing as voting for Trump!" "This is a democracy! That's why it'll instantly turn into a dictatorship if Trump wins. Don't question it!" "If you don't vote the way I want, you deserve to be publically executed!"' [in all caps, with extra exclamation marks] "Stop telling people not to vote!" End ID.]

[ghostonly]

The Western Christian Understanding of Israel

So, there's something I haven't seen much said about and I wanted to address it briefly. But, first, I want to be absolutely clear that this post is not condoning or excusing what I'm writing about. It's simply to shed some light on something I think a lot of people may be unaware of.

So, I grew up in a baptist household and was taught pretty much everything you would expect from one. One thing I was taught was to support Israel.

I hope it's obvious I don't anymore, but it doesn't hurt to be clear.

Anyway, supporting Israel is something that's taught in, I would guess, just about every conservative Christian household in America, or close to it. And in their churches. This isn't purely family politics; it's church politics. The American Christian church (meaning, like, "the church" - all of the American Christians collectively) is in support of Israel. This you may know. But this isn't about the collective, this is about how it spreads on a smaller scale.

I was taught from a young age to support Israel, not through direct communication, but through hearing the adults in my life talk about it. This included at church, where it was more explicitly referenced and spoken of with respect and admiration. It was called the holy land, it was spoken of as basically the most revered land in the world, because it's, you know, God's Holy Land. And the Jews are the ones who belong there. That's what the Bible says. So, that is what was preached to us.

There was never ANY mention of government. Everything was spoken of in the abstract. Jews belong there, they have to reclaim it because the land has been stolen, etc etc. It was honestly not something I could reasonably differentiate from biblical lore as a child.

I think this inability to recognize Israel as a real and modern country with real and modern politics is something that continues on for many people into adulthood, especially those who stay away from current events and news (which is a HUGE amount of Christians, because "news is a constant stream of negative secularism that we don't need to expose ourselves to")

So, what I'm saying is, an absolutely massive number of Americans - pretty much anyone who was raised particularly Christian and who hasn't Gotten Out of the Bubble (which can also mean those who are no longer practicing but haven't made any effort to find new circles or challenge their views on the world) - is going to view Israel as a holy place made up entirely of Jews - and obviously, we support the Jews. Duh.

So what you end up having is, a huge chunk of people with this very vague, biblical understanding of what Israel is, who want to blindly support "The Land of the Jews" - especially after the holocaust - and they're very particularly susceptible to propaganda about this. If anyone even suggests that the Israelis (read: Jews in the Holy Land) are under attack or are being prevented from land that is, by God's Word, theirs) it is not going to be looked upon with favor. It is going to translate to anyone raised like this, who isn't keeping up with current events online (which is a lot more people than you think) as: The Jews Are Being Attacked Again (And in the Promised Land No Less)

And then you can go ahead and just factor in the ungodly amount of racist propaganda that has been fed to all Americans about middle-easterners. You end up with the perfect cocktail. A bunch of brown people are attacking the poor Jews in God's Holy Land. Sounds fucking terrible, doesn't it?

The reason I want to explain this is because I think it would really empower people to make stronger arguments in favor of Palestine if they understand that a lot of the pro-Israel people in their offline lives are supporting Israel from a good place. A lot of them think they're supporting an oppressed minority. They hear about the bombing of the music festival and they immediately think this is an attempt at a second holocaust and they don't look any further into it than what their local news station has to offer - which, you know, is probably a crock of propaganda laden shit.

So, if you know people irl who are saying that they're pro-Israel, it might be more beneficial to inquire a bit about what they actually know before laying into them with accusations. You may find a few resources and an understanding explanation is a lot more effective at winning more allies. People are a lot more receptive when they're being reached out to in good faith, on a 1-on-1 human level (and not at the dinner table, I'm begging you).

I know it's hard to be patient right now and I know it's hard to have good-faith interactions with people who you feel should have already been properly educated on this topic, but I also promise you that if you come in, guns blazing, accusing someone of supporting genocide, they are going to immediately stop listening and dig their heels in, regardless of whether they would have listened and understood, given the right opportunities to learn.

And no, this does not apply to people yelling on the internet who are already knee deep in online political warfare. I'm talking about your Aunt Sarah who doesn't know anything political outside of who the current president is and is just repeating things she thinks are good because her pastor said them. You know the people I mean.

Please also remember that there are a lot of people vocally calling those who are anti-Israel antisemites. If you know someone who is only just slightly "online", they probably have seen this and used it as a cornerstone of their continued support of Israel. It is a strong fear-based reinforcement of their existing understanding of events. I mean, the last thing "good people" want to be is "one of those neo-nazis." They adopt this understanding of what it means to be pro-Palestine without question. If you're pro-Palestine, it means you're antisemitic. They're not antisemitic, therefore, they are not pro-Palestine.

If you want to help them understand the reality of the situation, I think it would be extremely helpful to remember, in your sources, to include a lot of content outlining just how many Jews are speaking out against the actions of the Israeli government. Make sure to give them that understanding that the Israeli government and Jews as a collective are not synonymous. The Israeli government is not the formal representative of all things Jewish and Good. Being able to bring their understanding of Israel into a modern framework, rather than a biblical one, will be a great starting point.

Do your best, and good luck. #freepalestine

[plaguedoctormemes]

This blog and the plague doc community, for me, is temporary relief from real-world hot-button issues and politics- not to say that this blog is neutral or that I refrain from being political (far from it) but due to some things ive noticed from some in this community im just like… *gestures vaguely* …stating this just to get this out there.

I think, no matter how much you may have personal stake in the conflict between Israel and Palestine, (apologies if this is almost over-said at this point but) there is absolutely no excuse for genocide. There’s plenty of info out there to indicate that the Israeli government is corrupt, and by extension the United States’s government, feeds its corruption like a gluttonous pig. It’s completely fucked up and I hate this damn country worse than I ever have before (The us i mean). So much it’s rage-inducing. Jewish Israelis and Palestinians are capable of living in peace, but everyone seems completely happy with taking away that peace, to push their own zionist or antisemitic agendas- ordinary people and politicians alike. It’s fucked up. And I know the United States government, aside from some representatives of color, couldn’t ultimately give less a shit about Israel nor Palestine after all is said and done, and regardless of whether or not Israel “”””wins”””” with their billions upon billions from the US and Palestinians “lose” (read: are eradicated). The US could, and likely will, wipe its ass of the entire affair.

And I absolutely hate to see otherwise well-meaning people, so-called progressive people, excuse or even support a genocide just because they think that speaking out against the IDF and the US support of it is somehow synonymous with antisemitism, or synonymous with doing a disservice to their jewish heritage. Last I checked, government entities and malicious organizations are not synonymous with an entire ordinary people. And in turn, ordinary people are not synonymous, and should not be synonymous or held accountable for the actions of those that govern them when they clearly voice opposition.

I’m not going to be answering asks about this nor am I going to engage with discussion about this on this blog since it’s not this blogs purpose, and instead im going to continue to try to carry this energy in more meaningful action outside of social media couch-activism, and i encourage anyone who happens upon this to also do the same. Shit’s fucking maddening.

[gayhenrycreel]

prev, i assure you that while many christians are wonderful, the biggest sects are death cults.

evangelicalism is the driving force behind western zionism. it believes that this will bring back jesus:

round up the entire jewish population in israel

this will trigger the rapture

christ will take revenge on his killers (or rather who the cult wants to believe killed jesus

the Good Guys will go to heaven and the Sinners will go to hell

if a christian is a zionist be suspicious unless you have reason otherwise. this is christian zionism and its why america supports israel.

in general, common western christianity relies on fear. it shames its victims. western christianity is the reason people unironically believe in thought crimes. dont think about a sin, thats the same as committing a sin. it is often believed that god can read your mind.

according to western christianity, christianity is a more evolved form of judaism, which is believed to be christianity with the blasphemous rejection of christ.

the devil is usually not a symbolic representation of evil, he is a second evil god that can take good gods place if he gets enough worship points.

the kind and loving christians ive met are not western christians. they didn't grow up with the threat of hell.

the first christian i ever met was western, and he called anyone he didn't like christ killers.

to a western christian, everyone else is a heathen to either banish to hell, or save with the selfish goal of earning jesus points.

im sorry to say, but big denomination christians will often see converts as rescued heathens.

frequently non christians get "prayed for" by christians who think that the out group needs saving from not being afraid of intrusive thoughts, not constantly fearing eternal punishment, and not taking the bible as literally as possible.

in mainstream west christianity you can not question the bible. this is defined vaguely. you must take it literally. it is fully believed that adam was a real man who fucked his clone and his clone was a stupid woman who is easily manipulated. of course this is weaponized to say that all subsequent women must be fiercely "protected" from sin because, being children of eve, they are all susceptible to falling prey to the devil, i.e, not being a housewife.

the bible is considered a true story. you cant see the story of the flood as about how even god can make mistakes because if he didn't there would not be suffering, because us being his creation, he poured his soul into us, therefore he can be human too.

no, questioning is heresy.

catholicism, evangelicalism, and protestantism are the big christian cults. they function on fear.

oh and be extremely careful of mormonism, those fucks literally believe that jesus was actually american, they worship the state as god, and think native americans were turned brown as punishment for being jewish.

individual christians are often really nice, but once they gather and get big, hell is a tool of control.

Am I In A Cult?

Every so often, you have to sit without yourself and think, "am I in a cult?" This goes for everyone and it's really important to do so.

Consider:

1. Is there an out group I'm supposed to hate?

2. Is a group telling me they're the only safe people?

3. Am I being told to distance myself or stop contacting my loved ones?

4. Am I being asked to risk my life or others' lives? (This one is iffy, but still should be on the list.)

5. Am I being told that my group is above the law?

6. Am I asked to self censor? Am I punished for asking questions?

7. Am I worried about losing all my friends and social network if I step out of line?

8. Have other people called me an extremist?

9. Am I being told to follow one person or organization and not question it?

Everyone is susceptible to cults. Everyone!

This isn't about any particular group or ideology. But there are a lot of groups online that are falling into cult behaviors and we need to be aware of that and stop it immediately.

[mozillavulpix]

Israel

If you're a progressive activist who likes to write call-out posts and permanently excommunicate from people who don't share your political opinions, please don't read this post. For my own sake.

I'm a Jewish person who gets upset at a lot of the discourse surrounding Israel, especially at the moment.

Don't you want an immediate ceasefire?

I do, but I get the feeling that's not happening because it's not exactly practical. If you ran a country and knew that a neighboring region had access to militants and weapons to go over to your country and murder and kidnap your citizens and civilians whenever they wanted (and in fact, that's what they just did), I think it's...practically the point of having an army to make sure something like that doesn't happen again. If you stop, you give them time to regroup and escape to try another time.

But what about the lives of the Palestinians?

It's a pretty awful situation, yeah. But Israel has already told them to go to the south so they don't get caught up in the fighting, and Egypt doesn't want to accept any of them as refugees, so I don't know how else you'd even get them out of the area.

But isn't Israel bombing in the safe zones, too?

This is a war. I'm sure the Israeli army wouldn't bomb other places unless there was some practical reason. Like there was access to weapons in one of those areas. I really wish they wouldn't do that, but I'm also not a military strategist with intelligence on the area, so it's not like I know what's around there.

Listen, if the reasonings are "Israel had intelligence that there were resources in that area used by militant groups" or "Israel are cartoon villains who purposely bomb civilian targets to make sure they inflict as much pain on Gaza civilians as they can", the first one just seems more likely to me.

What about the hospital that was bombed?

Several Western countries have all said from their independent intelligence that it wasn't Israel that did that.

But what if they're all just lying and saying that because they're working together?

Now you sound like Qanon

Why do you call us anti-semitic? We just want peace. We don't support terrorism and we're not telling people to hate Jews.

You're going around and using words like 'genocide'. Even if you don't think you're inciting violence, when you make such a powerful plea to people's emotions and empathy, some people are going to feel powerless and try to take it out on an 'easier' target that's only vaguely related to it. Like those Jews living in your country who happen to have family in Israel and so want to support them.

You're all really pissed off at the moment. Pissed off people get violent.

Wow, I can't believe I used to respect you.

I think it's a very dangerous mindset to be so willing to do a complete 180 on someone just because of one situation where they play devil's advocate. I'm not going around and yelling that all Palestinians are terrorists and should be killed, I hate people in the Israeli government as much as you do. I just want people to stop treating Israel like some one-dimensional cartoon villain responsible for all the evils in the world because you heard they're the 'occupiers'.

anyway, this isn't gonna stop anyone, just really me rationalising my thoughts and why i keep having to mute people on twitter until this all hopefully dies down

i'm literally just some girl on the internet, i'm not a political expert and don't fucking put me on blast because my arguments don't have all the facts