#fuck billy hargrove

[percable]

Billy Hargrove is a bad person.

I’m sick and tired of listening to people defend him because of his bad home life. I see people mischaracterize billy constantly, they make him out to be this poor abuse victim who only wanted to protect his sister, when that absolute bull shit. Billy stans/defenders blatantly ignore everything that he’s done and sum it up to billy not having support. You wanna know characters that have been abused and never had support? Look at fucking Jonathan! He always took care of his family and never lashed out at them.

he referred to women as cows and bitches, he verbally, emotionally, and sometimes physically abused max (who grew up in the same environment as billy and didn’t turn out to be a piece of shit.) He’s racist, and before someone decides to reblog this and say that he was concerned for Max’s safety, he didn’t give two shits when max went missing for multiple hours nor did he care when he tried to run over literal children.

he literally grabbed Lucas and slammed him into a wall, ignoring Steve and the other kids and targeted him specifically, this is a perfect example of racial motivation. He only cared about Steve being there when he protected Lucas from him. Billy literally tried to kill Steve and almost beat him to death. He wouldn’t stop even after Steve was unconscious. Billy would’ve killed Steve, had max not drug him.

people bring up the fact that he sacrificed himself for el and saved the party when the mind flayer attacked. This, and I cannot stress this enough, is not a redemption. He did one thing, one good thing in this entire show, and he’s suddenly the best character. “He apologized to max” for what? He never apologized after years of abuse and control, nor did he apologize to Lucas for attacking him, he didn’t apologize to Steve for almost killing him. People say that Billy’s abuse “wasn’t even that bad” but in S4 we hear exactly from max that his treatment was so horrible that she wanted him dead.

billy defenders will bring up, his backstory flashback, but in that same scene we see him beating a kid up and calling him a pussy. I’m not saying that Billy deserved to be abused, I’m saying that he had no right to hurt others the way he did. I’m also not “comparing abuse victims” When I bring up Jonathan, I’m giving an example that billy chose to be a piece of shit. Most people defend him because of pretty privilege, as long as someone’s hot and has a sad past, every horrible thing they’ve ever done is suddenly erased and/or excused.

billy has no excuse. billy is a bad person.

[maybebitterxox]

Billy Hargrove Modern Day Headcanons

Andrew Tate fan

Only uses 4-in-1 shampoo

Calls himself an Alpha male

Trump supporter

Smells like nicotine, canned tuna, beer and sweat

Only ever drinks energy drinks, has not touched water in years

Refers to women as ‘females’

Toxic rugby fan who will get into physical fights over the teams he supports

Brags about how much he can pull at every opportunity he gets (he’s only ever had one serious girlfriend)

90% of his clothes are stained but he refuses to buy new ones

“All Lives Matter” supporter

Claims he’s a big horror fan but pisses himself when he watches anything remotely scary

Says slurs, argues that he’s allowed to because “it’s just a word”

Calls people snowflakes

Says he has no pronouns

[miaisagirllover]

the byers brother's are literally what b'lly apologists want him to be

like u want a gay abuse victim with a lot of pain in his life? will byers is canonically gay and has been throught hell and back. jonathan is also kinda queercoded with his whole "being different is fine, i'm different" type attitude. oh right. i forgot u guys only like abuse victims if they have 6 pack abs. and that the whole "he's queercoded" defense is just a facade

[letnancykissgirls]

It makes me so endlessly happy that all Billy’s gravestone had is “Gone but not forgotten”

Because yes, it’s a basic platitude. But it’s all he deserves. He may have left, but all that’s left behind is the knowledge of how many people’s lives remain fucked up thanks to him in the aftermath.

He’s not forgotten unfortunately, it’s true. But it’s not meant to be a good thing

[devondespresso]

OK I NEED TO SHARE THIS FIC RIGHT NOW OR I WILL DIE

THIS. FIC. IS. FUCKING. EXCEPTIONAL.

it was a one-chapter idea that had so much good going for it that the author is expanding it into a full fic and series. it has 12 chapters out right now (total undetermined but they seem to have a lot planned) and every single one is absolute art. its also at a pretty good place right now so stopping at chapter 12 isn't cliffhanger torture or anything, it has questions unresolved and whatnot but im not falling apart at the seams from not knowing what happens next.

no im falling apart at the seams from everything thats already happened.

(this is your vague spoiler warning. im mostly warning/disclaiming shit and roleplaying a car salesman as i try to get you to give this fic a shot)

fair warning this fic is heavy. it deals with the upside down trauma and the canon-divergent trauma the author introduced so incredibly realistically that it kinda makes you realize how desensitized we are to steve getting hurt. its amazing.

also feel the need to tell you its not the type of realistic that leaves you depressed after reading thank god. its real and heavy but not demoralizing. characters cry and grieve and scream but characters also hug and comfort each other and make little jokes to lighten the mood. there are worst case scenarios and best case scenarios and you get to be with the characters in the aftermath and their healing.

the structure and pacing is really good. it centers around steve but it alternates povs to most of the other characters and gets their perspective and struggles (has switched between steve, eddie, hopper, max, lucas, dustin, nancy, wayne, b*lly, and steves mom) and that makes almost every character feel like they're a main character or at the very least really well developed.

also this is your anti-b*lly h*rgrove warning. hes 100% an irredeemable monster here so if that bothers you definitely skip this because his impact is felt every chapter. all the other characters are flawed but understandable and definitely not malicious.

and ofc read the tags and chapter notes for content warnings and such. the author tells you what areas to skip over if certain subjects bother you but some aspects (like what happened to steve and max and eddie's childhood traumas) are too integral to the story and can't be glossed over without missing plot details.

if its at all interesting to you (and its safe for you to read) please just go check out the first chapter and you'll get it. its really good.

[divaxoxo]

If I was a billy Stan I’d be mad as shit if the black boy he harassed was alive and the best character while their fav is always gonna be remembered as a racist loser that served no purpose.

[dinosaursatemymom]

talk shit about billy it's fun and I hate him

teeheehheee thanks hon

The first time I saw him I thought he was lowk ugly ngl, like imo he's just mid, so like I never even got any appeal to his character

Also he hurt Lucas and nobody is allowed to hurt my boy so he can fuck all the way off

also he's racist

Also he's abusive to max

Also just bc he was abused doesn't make him a good person instantly

Yes, he when he was a kid didn't deserve to be abused, but also yes he still grew up and abused others

So yeah he's a fucking asshole and I'm glad he's gone

[numberonesunnyfan]

the difference between Billy's horrible actions and the rest of the cast's horrible actions are the fact that everyone else became better people, and Billy didn't. he didn't even fucking try to improve, and his death didn't redeem him, that is bullshit, dying doesn't immediately fix someone's mistakes. the only character i can think of that was rushed on being forgiven was Jonathan, bc he was really creepy, but even then, he is forgiven because he apologizes, he doesn't do it again, he changed, etc.

oh, and also, constant, horrible, racism and abuse are worse than saying really bad things in an argument/fight and apologizing and being forgiven later, and the fact that i even have to clarify is insane.

Billy Hargrove stans, please just block me and move on, neither of us want to see each other's posts.

[stoncyish]

tell me why tf im seeing max and billy shipped romantically in the ao3 tags…

[ollsonline]

me when byler (and literally any other character in st)

[chaoskingofplatypus]

What the fuck is wrong with Billy Supporters??

😭💀

[miaisagirllover]

HELP IM CRYING 😭😭💀💀💀💀💀💀

[i-yyzw-cq]

My honest reaction:

[letnancykissgirls]

Fuck Billy Hargrove

Because guess what? That same childhood you lament him having?

Max grew up around it too

Neil was still her step-douche. She knew first hand the effects of a toxic and abusive environment after what we can assume to be relative peace.

Did she abuse kids her age or younger than her? Was she blatantly racist, homophobic, or generally a snot blowing idiot?

Say it with me now!!!

No 💕

Because the circumstances can help shape, but do not determine a person and how they behave.

It’s almost as though he’s responsible for his own behavior :0

And all the excuses you make don’t make him a better character :0

As someone who’s seen these issues and experienced one first hand, get out if you’re a Billy apologist

[lumaxramblings]

i swear to god billy stans' arguments get worse every time