#ftwd 1x01

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Symbolism in TWB 1x01: Brave + AK Mentions Beth

Okay, I said I’d talk about symbols I saw in The World Beyond premiere. I won’t go into too much detail about these symbols or what they may mean. It’s really too early in the story to decide how they will affect the characters or the arcs. I just want to point out that they’re there and then I’ll share something I just saw yesterday that is proof that they correlate symbolism between the different TWD series.

Here’s what I saw in TWB. I’ll link theories I’ve done on each of these beside them:

The biggest thing that jumped out at me from the get-go is them saying that the girls’ father is helping the helicopter people (CRM) do research for a cure. That’s really huge, guys. It means that if we’re right that Grady was a part of them (and we totally are), the Cure Theory just became a reality. (Cure Theory)

Lots of mentions of the Omaha colony. Remember in S2, right around Beth’s suicide arc, there was an episode called Nebraska. Nebraska references have been around for a long time.

School buses were very prevalent. (X)

Felix’s friend was named Huck. Huckleberry Finn reference. (X, X)

Hope flips off Elizabeth the first time she sees her.

Hope also visits a graveyard with white flowers.

Silas is an interesting character. No idea where they’re taking him yet, but at one point he was wearing headphones (music) and holding yellow flowers (think Alone).

They’re receiving forbidden messages from their father via fax machine (Communication theory).

They call the security guards (i.e. Felix) pigs.

Hope brewed a bunch of illegal alcohol. It doesn’t say it was moonshine, but still. 

Julia Ormond’s character is named Elizabeth. I know Beth’s name isn’t short for Elizabeth, but I still feel like this woman will be a massive anti-parallel to Beth. (And a parallel to Dawn.)

When the sisters were kids and “the sky fell,” they were dealing with a plane crash. We’ve seen a theme for that in FTWD, and many of us believe planes are synonymous with helicopters symbolically. Just think machines that fly. (They also have symbolic correlations to birds.) (X, X)

I definitely saw potential parallels between Iris and Hope as sisters to Maggie and Beth. Their mom died back near the beginning and they were raised by their dad. They’re very close. And there’s a whole backstory about how that night, they got separated and Iris feels like she let her sister down. How her sister had to face things along and Iris wishes she would have been there to help her. Possibly a parallel to Maggie leaving Beth behind. 👀

There’s the blue spray paint that a Nonny sent in about a while ago. In the show, they’re “tagging” walkers with the paint in order to study their migration patterns. Being a geek, I actually think that’s really interesting. But the blue is symbolically important. In terms of TWD, there are all blue coolers we’ve seen, and plenty of other blue symbols @frangipanilove​ affectionately calls “blues clues.” In terms of FTWD, Alicia was painting trees the exact same shade of blue last season, and she painted phoenixes on them as well. 👀 (Blues Clues Theory Here)

I also saw parallels between Felix and Daryl. Huck was talking about someone named William and, at first, I mistakenly thought William was his brother. That’s what made me think of Daryl. They talked about William in much the same way Beth and Daryl talked about Merle. Asking if he “missed” him and such. We also learn that Felix had terrible parents that dealt him a bad hand, though we don’t know what that bad hand was, yet. Sounds like Daryl to me. As I said, I was mistaken. William is actually Felix’s boyfriend, not his brother. But the parallels remain.

There was an “are you serious” line between the girls. Not sure what to make of that, yet. It may apply to them, demonstrating their father returning to them, or them leaving to find him but returning at a later date. Or it could be a Beth thing. Time will tell.

There was also a few instances of the “just gone” theme.

This next thing is something of a tease, but in the show, the girls are headed to New York because Elizabeth told them their father is there. No idea if they should be trusting that intel, but they are and that’s where they’re headed.

So, the interesting thing about this is that @frangipanilove has a theory about New York. I’m not going to hash it all out here because she’ll probably post it at some point. I’ll just give you one hint: New York is often referred to as The Big Apple.

But the funny thing is that she told me about this theory about a week before TWB aired, saying that New York might be important for Beth. So I sort of gasped when they mentioned New York in the show. It’s something we’re going to be keeping a close eye on.

Okay, so as you can see, we’re definitely seeing TD symbolism in this show, which might suggest Beth returning through it. Let me address that for a moment.

As disappointed as I was that she didn’t show up in 10x16, the way they’ve set up the story here makes perfect sense for how Beth might return in this spin off. I’m not saying she will for sure. I’m just saying it’s a strong possibility, and I will continue watching the series for more clues.

These kids are heading to New York where members of the helicopter group and various scientists are working on a cure. That just screams Beth to me. And then there’s all the Beth promotion and social media hints we’ve been getting lately. If they were about TWB, rather than 10x16, the timing still makes sense.

My fellow theorists and I also talked during the long hiatus about how weird it is that they never aired TWB. I’m still not sold on them not being able to air 10x16 on time. But even if there’s something behind the scenes that I don’t understand, TWB was 100% done by the time CoVid hit. It would have been a good way to tide fans over until we could get more regular TWD episodes. But they wanted to wait.

We’re still not sure exactly why, but our theory was that they wanted to wait until 10x16 aired before showing TWB, because they would connect in some way. Given that Beth didn’t show up in 10x16, we don’t know what that connection will be, but it may still be the case.

Okay, finally, a member of my facebook group @rabia, sent me an article that’s, well, kinda super-cool. In it, an interviewer asks Angela Kang if Maggie’s earrings in the episode are keys and if they might tie to the key communities in FTWD.

If you study AK’s response, the answer is pretty much no. She kind of babbles and stumbles through the answer, saying she doesn’t know what earrings Maggie is wearing and she’ll have to look into it.

Now, we always laugh when they say things like this. Angela knows EXACTLY what earrings Maggie is wearing and what they mean, as evidenced by the fact that she says she doesn’t and then goes onto explain what they mean. Lol. Yeah, she totally doesn’t know. 🙄

Now, we don’t know what the earrings actually are. We’ve tried to zoom in and the shot just gets blurry. But we’ve theorized crosses, birds, or possible boat anchors.

But then look at AK’s further response. She says what Maggie is wearing are bits and pieces of lost family members. People have already noticed her wearing Glenn’s wedding ring, but AK specifically mentions Beth. That’s kind of huge. Because whatever the earrings are, AK just confirmed them as a Beth symbol.

What I actually wanted to show you in relation to TWB symbolism is that last line. She says that “in this case” they weren’t trying to tie the earrings to another one of the series. Which means that there ARE cases where they do exactly that.

And I just wanted to show you all this so you understand why we also look for symbolism in TWB and FTWD. Even though there are different writers and showrunners, they all operate under Gimple as the “chief content officer,” and thus the symbolism runs through every show in the franchise.

I’m working on a mega theory that probably won’t be done for a few weeks, but when it is, it will show more effectively that the same story and templates are being used across every show. So stay tuned for that.

That’s it for today. Thoughts?

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FTWD 1x01 Rewatch

OMG I forgot how fucking good the pilot is!! 

Frank’s acting throughout the episode is so heartbreaking and amazing. The scene when Madison and Travis come to Nick after he has killed Calvin and Calvin’s body isn’t there, is one of the best scenes. Seeing Nick have a complete breakdown on whether he is going crazy or not. Frank carried this show. I do not care what anyone says.

TRAVIS!!! I forgot how pure this man was!! I miss him!! I loved that he let Nick talk about what happened in the church and didn’t immediately jump the gun and be like it was the drugs. He listened and even went to investigate further. He was a pure bean that deserved so much better. 

I forgot how dark Madison’s hair is. Like she is almost a brunette! Now she is definitely a blonde. I just love the thought of her in the middle of a possible apocalypse being like “I know we have a lot of shit happening but I really want to change my hair and go full blonde” It just makes me laugh!! 

Does Alicia still have that tattoo that she gave her self in season one! Coz I don't think we have seen it since season 2. Did it just fade because it wasn’t actual tattoo or they just gave up putting it on Alycia every time!! 

Honestly Frank and Alycia have such amazing chemistry that if they weren’t playing siblings on the show I would probably ship them. I remember when I first watched the hospital scene with Alicia feeding Nick jello I was like damn if those two weren’t siblings, they could definitely be in a couple. 

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Murder Husbands & Children of Violence

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by gutsandroses

Will Graham has been called in to investigate a strange case... a case involving something he is newly but intimately familiar: Cannibalism. A young heroin addict stands accused of a ghoulish crime. Nick Clark maintains his innocence, but the truth that he suggests is unbelievable. Can Will figure out the killer’s design before they strike again?

Troy Otto may not have been born broken, but something in him had snapped early in his formative years. A recent arrest for aggravated assault - not his first and certainly not his last - has landed him twenty hours of court-mandated therapy. Who better to help him learn how to control his darker urges than Dr. Hannibal Lecter?

Set soon after Hannibal 2x09/the opening moments of FTWD 1x01

Words: 5254, Chapters: 5/12, Language: English

Fandoms: Hannibal (TV), Fear the Walking Dead (TV)

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Categories: Gen, M/M

Characters: Will Graham, Hannibal Lecter, Troy Otto, Nick Clark, Dr. Frederick Chilton

Relationships: Will Graham/Hannibal Lecter, Will Graham & Hannibal Lecter, Nick Clark/Troy Otto, Nick Clark & Troy Otto

Additional Tags: Murder, Attempted Murder, Drug Use, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied/Reference Animal Cruelty, Implied Relationships, Meet-Cute, Alternate Universe, Zombie Apocalypse, Alternate Universe - Zombie Apocalypse, Zombies

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Murder Husbands & Children of Violence

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2B1H8t4

by gutsandroses

Will Graham has been called in to investigate a strange case... a case involving something he is newly but intimately familiar: Cannibalism. A young heroin addict stands accused of a ghoulish crime. Nick Clark maintains his innocence, but the truth that he suggests is unbelievable. Can Will figure out the killer’s design before they strike again?

Troy Otto may not have been born broken, but something in him had snapped early in his formative years. A recent arrest for aggravated assault - not his first and certainly not his last - has landed him twenty hours of court-mandated therapy. Who better to help him learn how to control his darker urges than Dr. Hannibal Lecter?

Set soon after Hannibal 2x09/the opening moments of FTWD 1x01

Words: 1643, Chapters: 2/12, Language: English

Fandoms: Hannibal (TV), Fear the Walking Dead (TV)

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Categories: Gen, M/M

Characters: Will Graham, Hannibal Lecter, Troy Otto, Nick Clark, Dr. Frederick Chilton

Relationships: Will Graham/Hannibal Lecter, Will Graham & Hannibal Lecter, Nick Clark/Troy Otto, Nick Clark & Troy Otto

Additional Tags: Murder, Attempted Murder, Drug Use, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied/Reference Animal Cruelty, Implied Relationships, Meet-Cute, Alternate Universe, Zombie Apocalypse, Alternate Universe - Zombie Apocalypse, Zombies

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2B1H8t4

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“No one’s going to college. No one’s doing anything they think they are.”

         fear the walking dead 1.01 pilot

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ftwd meme: episodes

- Pilot

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#tobias was the ONLY one who knew what was up! before EVERYBODY else!!!

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Travis and Christopher in Fear the Walking Dead 1x02 “So Close, Yet So Far”,

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FTWD 6x03: Details

Okay, let's talk details. 

***As always, spoilers abound below for episode 6x03. Don’t read until you’ve watched!***

We start out with seeing Morgan back with Rachel, Isaac's wife and little baby Morgan. At first, I thought this was a flashback, but it's not. Apparently, he went and saw Daniel at Virginia’s settlement, but then came back. He's planning go back and forth and obviously has plans to rescue everyone. (Yay!) Also, he pulled an S5 Rick and shaved off his huge beard. ;D

The opening credits have a green background and show Al with her camera. I did note the green background when I started watching it, but I wasn't sure how significant it would be. So far, we've seen the red and blue background, and if they change colors with each episode, it might just be a matter of this is the color of the week, right? Except then we saw massive Beth parallels and foreshadows in this episode. Probably not a coincidence.

So, we had Al and Dwight go into the house. Al says, “camera A,” and then location 731, and 1600 hours.

I think the A is part of the A/B theme. Especially because, after watching a second time, I realized the helipad on the roof of the building Al goes to is called Bakers Drop. So camera A, Bakers drop.

The 1600 caught my attention as well. Earlier, with Rachel, Morgan said he felt like he'd been 16 different people since the apocalypse head. So the number 16 is appearing a lot in random places in the episode.

About Al and Dwight collecting drivers’ licenses? It also reminded me of 1x01. If you remember, just before Rick and Glenn slathered themselves with guts, Rick pulled out the dead guy’s license. This could be a callback to that as well.

There are lots of little symbols in the basement of the funeral home around Al. There's a green bottle, upside down, that’s either bleach or formaldehyde (which Al mentions). There are anatomical diagrams on the walls, including one of a brain. And then there's the Rich Bitch. She's wearing pink for one thing (Pink Theory) but it's obvious that she hasn't been dead long because she's not terribly decomposed. Al mentions that she thinks somebody might have embalmed her.

Obviously, that didn't keep the woman from turning, and Dwight asked who would've done that. I think it's a hint to something else they talk about near the end. I’ll come back to that. When Al and Dwight sit on the coffin, talking, there are background symbols there as well. Green awning, boarded up windows that look like the moonshine shack, Xs in the metal pillars framing Dwight. This is also where Dwight says seriously.

When they get into the office building in the city, they see the writing, "The end is the beginning," on the wall. This is not the same place we saw that phrase in episode 1. In that case, two guys spray painted it on the side of that enormous red submarine. So,  whoever is spray painting this is going around spray painting it in different locations for some reason.

Al and Dwight see rats in cages. She takes a particular interest in them. But Dwight pulls her back because he doesn't like rats. I'm thinking that at this point Al already thought these rats were infected. Then she sees the sick people and their boils, and she knows that it's bubonic plague. But the weird thing is that the rats are in cages.

It's also interesting to note that those who were sick were very dehydrated. They needed water to help them survive, along with antibiotics. It reminded me of the virus at the prison in 4A. It’s also something we predicted with Beth for a long time: that she’ll show up and save everyone in some way. Water is a big symbol for her and also medicine/healing. I’ll come back to these details.

There are several mentions of being lucky, which we talked about about last week. The Luck Theory and what it means. (X, X)

I actually got Consumed feels a few times during this episode. The first was when Al and Dwight were in one of the office rooms, talking things through. It just reminded me of some of the office Daryl and Carol were in during 5x06. Then, when they got to the fifth floor with all the sick people, there were tents set up, just like we saw around Daryl, Carol, and Noah in Consumed.

@wdway even said she thought Al and Dwight’s relationship was supposed to have been paralleled to Carol and Daryl in Consumed. I hadn’t thought of it quite that way, but I LOVE that and totally agree. Notice how Al and Dwight were close, even hugging at one point, but they’re never going to be a romantic couple. Just saying. 😉

When Dwight realizes going to see Isabel could be dangerous for Al, he tries to talk her out of it. This is where she got some Beth dialogue. First she said they'd been doing what Virginia wanted by filming the dead, and, "calling it living." Pretty much synonymous with that Beth said at Grady ("You call this living?") to Dr. Edwards on the roof.

Then Al says, "We made a game out of seeing where dead people came from." That reminded me of two things. First, Beth and Daryl’s “I Never” game. But also when she yelled at him about the walker in the yard, saying, "killing them isn't supposed to be fun."

Then Al says, "The last time I felt alive was with her." Definitely sounds like something Daryl might say about Beth, no?

At one point, Al and Dwight go inside the walls to climb up to the next floor. It's not exactly the elevator shaft. The climb up using the pipes, but it's kind of similar. And there were some yellowish pipes as they crawl along, which reminded me of the pipes we saw when Noah and Beth try to escape the hospital.

Nora shows up to help them get up to the roof and wound up having to kill people that she knew when they were still alive. She becomes upset after having to kill one of them. What I noticed here was a small detail. She uses the bottom of an office chair to kill the walker. The bottoms of those chairs with the wheels on them are naturally in a five-pointed star shape. And she slammed it down into the walker’s eye. It showed this walker several times with his missing eye. So, more Sirius/Dog Star symbolism.

When Al gets to the roof to wait for Isabel, we see a red box with flare gun in it. She ends up firing off the flare gun to get Isabel's attention before telling her not to land. We've seen plenty of flare guns and they’re always entangled with Beth symbolism. One that always sticks out to me the most was in 5x11, The Distance, when they met Aaron he led them back to Alexandria. He shot up a flare gun right next to water tower, which was always a major symbol for me. You can read more details HERE. But after that, we also saw the flare gun in the barn next to a bunch of other Beth symbols, including the music box.

Let’s talk about the Trevitt callback. For anyone who doesn’t remember Trevitt, he was the guy that was brought into Grady while Beth was there. He had internal bleeding, and Edwards had Beth kill him by giving him the wrong medication. 

(And, you know, scissors!)

I always thought Trevitt was interesting and probably a potent symbol, though I didn't know of what. Because he just seems so random. They went out of their way to say the Grady people had found him on the street and that he’d jumped from the top of some building. He had internal injuries and probably wouldn't have survived anyway, but I wondered what that was all about and why they bothered to give us his back story only to kill him off without even waking him up.

In this episode, Al and Dwight find a guy who's fallen from the roof of the building Nora and her group are in. We learn the man was shot by the helicopter people and then just fell. I'm still not sure exactly what this symbolizes, but it might strengthen the ties between Grady and helicopter people. Maybe Trevitt was somebody, much like this guy, who the helicopter people found, but for some reason killed him. Maybe he didn't so much fall from the roof as he was pushed or something. It's definitely a parallel and a very interesting one.

Let's talk about the plague. Al suggests the plague isn't happening naturally just because of unclean conditions. She thinks someone—and they go out of their way to say it probably isn't Virginia—is making people sick. Spreading the plague purposely. I think that's what that first scene with Al looking at the rats in the cages was about. Why would there be a rat in a cage, especially one with bubonic plague, in the basement of a nice office building.? Someone had to put it there.

Al concludes that whoever is writing, "the end is the beginning," on the walls is the one spreading the bubonic plague through the rats. We don't know who this is. Could it be the CRM? Maybe. Could be someone else, another group, we aren't aware of yet? Yeah, it could be. We just don't know.

But here's why this is so interesting to me. If these guys are purposely spreading a plague, then it's like they're purposely trying to kill off the human race. And yet they write, "the end is the beginning," on the wall. So, it's like they feel like they need to kill everyone off to start a whole new era or something like that.

Remind you of anything? Like…the wolves? We never learned much about their dogma, but they seemed to believe that by killing people, they were "freeing" them. As if sending humans to a new plane of existence.

I'm not saying these guys necessarily are the wolves or have direct ties to them in the show, but thematically, their beliefs are similar.

So, I gotta say it. Could wolves have foreshadowed these people? Could Beth be returning with them? We simply don't know. But remember that we saw the Alaska license plate with Aaron at the wolf trap. Now, we’re getting people with perhaps similar beliefs in an episode called Alaska. And in this episode, characters are reuniting with lost, romantic partners who, until now, have been, "just gone."

Have I mentioned how much I freaking loved this episode? Thoughts?