#free state of deseret

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Their thrones will turn to electric chairs

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a timeline of major events leading up to and following the mormon rebellion

1839- the mormons, fleeing missouri, start their own super special theocratic city state of nauvoo

july 1844- having a super special theocratic city state culminates in its mayor-prophet-general being murdered

still 1844- after a struggle between different factions over succession, brigham young becomes the new president of the church and prophet. planning starts as to Where To Go and How

1846- the trip to utah starts and they winter in omaha

1847- HELL YEAH DESERET FOREVER BABY! time to establish a theocracy in the desert in that area that mexico owns on paper, but really, GOD owns it ;)

february 1848- control of deseret is officially transferred to the united states in the aftermath of the mexican american war

later 1848- young and his associates draft a petition to the US government for a territorial government headed by himself and others. they don't end up submitting it to the united states government, though, because of fears that a territorial government would not give them enough freedom. they will wait it out for either statehood or independence

1849- the government is declared as "the free and independent state of deseret" to remain so until the united states admits them as a state. which especially pre civil war would have given them a TON of leeway over what they're allowed to do. like keep a lot of their We're a Desert Theocracy With a Governor-President-Prophet in Charge!

1850- the us government doesn't care about your desert theocracy or the name you want to give it. you're the territory of utah and you're gonna LIKE IT! we'll let you keep your guy as governor though. i guess

1850-1851- non-mormons traveling to oregon and california winter in utah and have a Very Bad Time. people are not nice to them. the court system is BAD and the systems are rigged against the federal officers brought in to do these jobs.

brigham young tries to rally the different native american tribes in the region to his cause, because mormon theology teaches that they're also lost israelites. but he didn't consider any of their actual motivations or try to cater to those so beyond a few conversions and some fair weather friends who will work with anyone for the most money, he gets No Alliances TM

1852- polygamy is PUBLIC now! orson pratt let the rest of the world know that it's a thing we do and now we have to publicly defend it! ruh roh

1856- HEYOOO WE'RE DOING RELIGIOUS REVIVAL! right here! right now! you're confessing to sins! and you're confessing to sins! and YOU'RE confessing to sins! ones you probably didn't commit! heyooo come get your charismatic revivalism. time to atone for your sins with blood and then you'll get into heaven!

there were quite a few different recorded murders of mormons trying to leave at this time, including the famous parrish murders, where a father and one of his sons were killed trying to leave the territory. the other son escaped and ran to his uncle's, where he had to pretend nothing happened.

1857- mr. young you have been removed as governor of this territory, effective immediately.

brigham young: actually we are our OWN country none shall pass through our lands without a permit and we totally have talked to all of the native american tribes and they all will do exactly as i ask and i only hold them off as a gesture of goodwill ;) (this is not accurate! and we all know that!)

september 1857- this was the mountain meadows massacre. i'm not going to try to make a joke about the mountain meadows massacre because from around a hundred and twenty people traveling from arkansas to oregon were murder in cold blood AFTER they surrendered to the mormon militia. there isn't a single joke to be made here, and this event was covered up in various forms for a very long time.

the mormon militia burns and destroys US military supplies as the military escort comes with the new governor.

the church forces residents of the north and salt lake city to relocate south with the intention of destroying the settlements to make a statement. while they don't end up following through with the plan to destroy these homes, the forced relocation still happens.

when the military and the new governor arrives, the new governor decides to be The Lamest Stooge to Ever Lame. and basically lets brigham young tell him what to do and what to say, continuing a very similar line of power to what was already there. not to mention the presidential pardon that young and all involved got for most of the Illegal Dealings that they participated in that are known at the time.

the military isn't able to stay very long because the president has decided that accepting the "new governor" is basically enough, and with the looming threat of a proper civil war (which is just on the cusp of breaking out) there's not enough resources to expend on utah.

a judge tries very hard to uncover the truth of what happened at mountain meadows, which has been blamed entirely on native americans (only a few of which participated, all as free agents separate from a tribal affiliation) and he's not able to make things happen before the military is entirely recalled and along with that, any authority he had to make these things happen.

he DOES go on to help found nevada and take a large swath of territory out of brigham young's gaping maw, though, so that's. something.

i need to do more research from some additional sources but like. jesus CHRIST the... everything here. it's just so much

1877- brigham young finally drops dead and loosens his hold on the territory of utah

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Flag of Ecotopia

This is the flag of Ecotopia.  It comes from a world where man-made climate change were not reversed.  Rising sea levels and changing weather patterns took their toll on many nations, but in particular the United States.  Climate change, resource wars, civil unrest and general strife strained America's resources to their limits.  Eventually, it got to the point where various regions began to declare independence, with the federal government being powerless to stop them.  A rump United States still exists, and some regions still claim to recognize its authority.  However, these regions are mostly self-governing and are independent in all but name.  

That brings us to Ecotopia.  It was one of the first nations to declare independence.  It comprises Northern California, Oregon, Washington state, British Columbia and the Alaskan panhandle.  As its name would suggest, it was founded to be a more sustainable and environmentally minded society.  Almost all of Ecotopia's energy is produced by sustainable and renewable resources; such as solar, wind, geothermal and hydro-electric.  It's capital city, also named Ecotopia, was built to serve as an example of the sustainable cities of tomorrow.  

Ecotopians eat a largely pescatarian diet, with meat being reserved as more of a luxury and treat.  Insects are also a staple of the Ecotopian cuisine.  Hunting is allowed, though tightly regulated, and cattle drives have made something of a comeback.  Most buildings have rooftop gardens and poultry roosts built into them.  Those that don't usually have solar panels or wind turbines instead.  Most cities have plenty of parks and other green spaces.  The prevailing architectural philosophy is to work with nature, not against it.  Most Ecotopians drive electric cars, though most cities have plenty of public transportation options.  Cities are also built with walkability and biking in mind.

Secularism is rather prevalent, but Buddhism remains the most practiced religion.  However, Ecotopian Buddhism tends to place more emphasis on environmentalism than it does on breaking free from the cycle of reincarnation.  There's also a rapidly growing neopagan movement underway.  In fact, all religions are legal in Ecotopia...within reason, that is. For example, Christianity is legal, but the Bible has been banned due to promoting violence and bigotry.  Recently, the Koran has also been put on the list of banned books.  

Ecotopia has a thriving art scene, but all works of art and literature must be submitted to government boards for approval.  After all, wouldn't want any "problematic" themes infiltrating the artistic world and corrupting the youths.  Hate speech is considered a serious crime, and there are harsh penalties for any caught perpetuating bigoted opinions.  There have been grumbling about the definitions of hate speech getting broader and broader.  Though, officially, the Ecotopian government maintains that it supports free speech...within certain boundaries.  

It's not all fun and games, however.  Ecotopia has a large standing army, and they're certainly not afraid to use it.  In their early days, they got into quite a few skirmished with the Mormon Republic of Deseret.  These days, both nations have something of an uneasy truce with each other.  Ecotopia's biggest foreign intervention, however, hardly required any military action.  The Republic of SoCal gets most of its water from North California.  Therefore, whenever SoCal gives them trouble, Ecotopia just has to turn off the tap until they come around.  SoCal, much to its chagrin, is also quite dependent on Ecotopia to supplement its food supply.  This has, effectively, turned SoCal into an Ecotopian colony. 

The SoCalians are splits about what to do.  Some favor formally joining Ecotopia, while others suggest going to war over the former Northern California.  Still others suggest slowly working to find solutions, such as desalinization plants, that would reduce their need for Ecotopia.  In more friendly relations, the Republic of Hawaii is quite close diplomatically with Ecotopia.  The two nations share similar philosophies, and there is talk of a possible merger of the two nations.  Admittedly, many are skeptical that it will get off the ground, but hope springs eternal. 

Despite these problems, Ecotopia is looking towards a brighter future.  Despite their isolationist beginnings, in more recent times Ecotopia has begun to open itself to the wider world.  Trade relations have been established with several nations of East Asia.  Ecotopia is quickly become a hub of trade, bringing to goods of Asia to the North American continent.  A sea wall project is currently underway to reclaim coastal lands lost to rising sea levels.  Ecotopia hopes to learn from the mistakes of the past to build a better tomorrow.  Let's just hope they don't become the monsters they seek to fight.  

The flag reflects Ecotopia's environmentalist philosophy.  The brown stands for earth, the blue stands for water and the green stand for plant life and sustainability.  The phoenix represents Ecotopia rising out of the ashes of the old world to build a better tomorrow.  

Link to the original flag on my blog: https://drakoniandgriffalco.blogspot.com/2017/10/flag-of-ecotopia.html?m=1

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Eclipse Helped to See Solar Corona in New Light - Technology Org

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Eclipse Helped to See Solar Corona in New Light - Technology Org

Observations made by William Harkness during the 1869 total eclipse led to a pivotal discovery about the sun’s corona.

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When it comes to studying solar eclipses, University of Rochester scholars have been at it a long time. Case in point: Alumnus William Harkness, whose observations of the sun’s corona during a total solar eclipse in 1869 have been hailed by some astronomers as a “landmark discovery.”

At the time, few people had ever gotten a good look at the solar corona—the outermost jacket of gases that make up the sun’s atmosphere. The sun’s blinding brilliance made studying anything in its immediate vicinity almost impossible. Only during eclipses did its radiant halo, the corona, become visible.

In fact, astronomers of the day debated whether the ring of light revealed during an eclipse was the sun’s atmosphere at all. Some thought it was just sunlight penetrating the Earth’s atmosphere. Others speculated it was a lunar atmosphere.

Here comes the sun’s corona

Harkness helped settle the debate by studying a solar eclipse on August 7, 1869, from a hilltop on the outskirts of Des Moines, Iowa, one of the cities in the eclipse’s so-called path of totality.

Vital to his research was his use of a relatively new instrument called a spectroscope, a glass prism that splits light into a rainbow of colors emitted by specific atoms and molecules. The hues act like a key to identifying different elements.

Affixing a spectroscope to a telescope enabled Harkness to observe a continuous green line ringing the sun as the moon slipped between it and the Earth and punched a hole of darkness in the daytime sky.

As documented by the United States Naval Observatory, Harkness concluded that the corona was “a highly rarefied self-luminous atmosphere surrounding the sun, and, perhaps, principally composed of the incandescent vapor of iron.”

“We have succeeded beyond our most sanguine expectations,” Harkness, who was a lieutenant commander and mathematics professor in the Navy at the time, wrote of his research in a telegraph to a colleague.

His missive was widely reported in newspapers across the country, from the Deseret News in Utah to the Burlington Free Press in Vermont.

“We have one hundred and twenty-three photographs of the eclipse, two being of totality,” he added. “. . . Could see no absorption lines in the spectrum of the corona. It gave a continuous spectrum with one bright line on it.”

His observations, which he photographed, were corroborated by those of Charles Augustus Young, an astronomy professor at Dartmouth College, who studied the same celestial event from a vantage point of roughly 160 miles east in Burlington, Iowa.

Harkness’s observations would eventually help answer the question, ‘Is the solar corona hotter than the sun?’ 

HARKNESS AND LIGHT: The total solar eclipse of August 7, 1869, as documented by William Harkness during his work to learn about the physical constitution of the sun’s corona, which is only visible during an eclipse. Image credit: University of Rochester Department of Rare Books, Special Collections, and Preservation

Scientists hypothesized that the green line might be the emission of a new element of the sun, which came to be known as coronium. They studied that green line during eclipses for the next seven decades before concluding that coronium was not a new element, but rather iron stripped of half of its electrons.

That finding suggested the solar corona was hotter—millions of degrees hotter—than the surface of the sun and has since helped the scientific community better understand how stars work.

Harkness, a member of the Class of 1858, was 11 years on from graduating from the University of Rochester at the time of his discovery, but he kept his alma mater in mind throughout his life. When he died in 1903, having reached the rank of rear admiral in the Navy, he bequeathed to the University his collection of nautical and scientific instruments as well as his library and papers.

Harkness Hall, which was erected on the River Campus in his honor in 1946 and originally devoted to naval science and training naval officers, today houses the Departments of Political Science and Economics.

Source: University of Rochester

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SMART BOMB

The Completely Unnecessary News Analysis

By Christopher Smart

Sept. 26, 2023

AN INSIDE GUIDE TO MORMON-SPEAK

Praise the Lord, The Salt Lake Tribune has published a holy glossary for heathens so folks like Wilson and the band can better translate what Mormons are saying. For example: “Celestial Kingdom — When members speak of heaven, they usually mean the Celestial Kingdom.” It's a public service for people like those moving here from Austin, Texas. To help, the staff here at Smart Bomb added more info to this new Deseret Dictionary:

Flip — The Mormon term for another F-word. e.g., “What the flip.”

Garbage — The LDS word for excrement, e.g., “Can you believe that garbage.”

Gentile — Heathens who are targets of Mormon missionaries who must be saved by dunking them in water.

Jack Mormon — A lost soul who has strayed from righteousness and needs help to quit their sinning ways.

Apostate — A Jack Mormon who is beyond saving and must be kept away from women and children.

Baptism of the dead — Mormons can baptize anyone and meet them in the Celestial Kingdom. That way, everyone gets to heaven, including Adolf Hitler and Anne Frank. For real.

Word of Wisdom — Always take two Mormons fishing — that way they won't drink the beer.

A NATION OF SLOBS

America owes Fonzi a big wet kiss — or does it. T shirts and jeans are now the uniform of… just about everyone. And this country's big dress-down has spread like Covid from Italy to Argentina and from Russia to Morocco. John Fetterman, the recently elected U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, is famous for the hoodies and shorts he sports around the Capital. Last week, Majority Leader Chuck Shumer relaxed the official Senate dress code, setting the stage for god-knows-what. Hold on Wilson, the band might think that's cool but have you ever returned to this country and landed at JFK or LAX. You can tell you're back in the states because people in the airport are wearing bad looking T shirts, flip-flops and basketball shorts exposing rear cleavage. Yecht. Land of the free, home of the slobs. Sure, Marlon Brando looked good in a T shirt and denims in “A Streetcar Named Desire,” but the middle-aged guy at the airport Starbucks in the saggy jeans and gut hanging out of his Raiders tee doesn't recall the Fonz. It's gotten so bad that gangsters don't even dress up any more. Rich people dress down, too, but their jeans cost $600, the sneakers $300 and the tees — who knows. At least their but-crack isn't showing. Call it “slob chic.” If you're a real slob, this could be a good year for you. But pull up your shorts — please.

THE CHAOS CAUCUS AND THE GRAND INQUISITION

Feeling dysfunctional? Cheer up. Compared to the U.S. House of Representatives — or should we say Clown House — you're practically normal. Even Wilson and the band look upstanding compared to this lot. Ohio Republican Jim Jordan did his impression of Grand Inquisitor looking to torch Hunter Biden, who was in scurrilous cahoots with then V.P. Joe Biden plotting heresy and kickbacks. In the committee's dock, Attorney General Merrick Garland was roughed up by inquisitors, snarling that he dished Hunter — and therefore his father — special treatment while going after conservatives like Queen Isabella beheading Moors in the Spanish Inquisition. Why, the Grand Inquisitor demanded, did then-president Donald Trump appoint U.S. Attorney David C. Weiss to investigate Hunter. “The fix was in.” Huh? What? Beyond the buffoonish prelude to the impeachment of President Biden, Republicans dueled in House corridors with a cadre of far-right saboteurs who were playing government-shutdown-chicken with hapless Speaker Kevin McCarthy — window dressing for their real agenda of scaling back Ukraine aid and imposing social policy dictates on abortion and gender. Oh, and one more thing — they want Kevin McCarthy's head on a spike. Call it Making America Great Again.

Post script — That's a wrap for another spacey week here at Smart Bomb where we keep track of asteroids so you don't have to. Get this Wilson, seven years ago, NASA launched an unmanned spacecraft called OSIRIS-REx to collect a sample of the 4 billion-year-old asteroid Bennu that's only one-third of a mile wide. Hovering over the asteroid, the spacecraft's robotic arm scooped up eight ounces of space dirt and returned to Earth's orbit, dropping the stuff off in a capsule that landed in the west desert bombing range at Dugway Proving Ground here in Utah. The molecular material of the sample could provide clues to our planet's origins. Then OSIRIS-REx flew off to it's next stop — the asteroid Apophis with a scheduled encounter in 2029. Simply amazing. Of course, we can't pass a budget or convince conservatives that Earth is imperiled by climate change due to burning of fossil fuels. But people love science. Well, some people, anyway. Others watch TV, talk on cell phones and drive cars but don't believe in science. Vaccination — nah. Funny, isn't it, Wilson. Did a man walk on the moon or was it just a sophisticated hoax, like 9-11. There are so many hoaxes anymore. With Donald Trump alone, there are dozens and dozens. Maybe we didn't go to Bennu after all.

OK Wilson, to say the Republican party is all flipped up would be an understatement. They've got the entire country sittin' in limbo. What's a mother to do. We shouldn't worry about what we can't control but there's this existential doom hanging over us and it's not an asteroid. Well, flip it. Tell the band to crack open the beers and get us on outa here:

Sitting here in limbo But I know it won't be long Sitting here in limbo Like a bird without a song Well, they're putting up a resistance But I know that my faith will lead me on Sitting here in limbo Waiting for the dice to roll Yeah, now, sitting here in limbo Got some time to search my soul Well, they're putting up a resistance But I know that my faith will lead me on Sitting here in limbo Waiting for the tide to flow

Sitting here in limbo Knowing that I have to go Well, they're putting up a resistance But I know that my faith will lead me on I don't know where life will take me But I know where I have been I don't know what life will show me But I know what I have seen Tried my hand at love and friendship That is past and gone And now it's time to move along Sitting in limbo, sitting in limbo Limbo limbo, sitting in limbo

(Sitting in Limbo — Jimmy Cliff)

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Insurgence Incarceration

After incarcerating Governor John Taylor, Judge Daniel H. Wells, State Senators Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, and Representatives Benjamin Johnson and Franklin Richards I in the train station, pending transfer to Monterey for trial, Brigadier General Rómulo Pico’s first task was to make sure no more Deseret Militia members were free in Salt Lake City, confining them to Presidio Gran Lago Salado which had been stripped of armaments. Tracking down the banditos would be more difficult as many of them had fled. Some were later captured when trying to attack the one thousand federal troops now in Salt Lake City, but their general lack of discipline and poor weaponry made them easy pickings. About two dozen were shot, half fatally, over the next three days.

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My biggest problem with the Deznat folks is that, on some level I kinda agree with them.

You can pitchfork me later, just let me explain first.

So, a reoccurring theme with Deznat is that a deticated Mormon state (Deseret) would allow the church to break free of corrupting influences. Now, not all deznats are calling for a Mormon homeland. Some are just looking to 'purify' the church. They believe if we could just get the bad influences out of the Church, it would attain it's true destiny as a beacon of light a beauty to all the world.

All that is stuff I actually agree with. Where I start to disagree in in what the corrupting influences are, and what needs to be purged. I also have a very different view of what a purified Church looks like.

Generally Deznats are right wing to far right, so their concerns tend to be about the influence of progressive Mormons (Progmos) and/or LGBTQ Mormons, and their ideal political state is very pro-American (I consider that idol worship, but hey, agree to disagree). But, they can speak for and defend themselves and you can look them up if you want. I'm not here to talk about them much.

The way I see it, the corrupting influences on the Church come from mainstream Christianity and American culture. A 'Mormon Vatican', or at least a sound rejection of those influences would lead to a better, more pure Church. A Church that better accepts Saints of all colors and queerness.

That's what bothers me about Deznat. They embrace things that, as I see it, cause most of the problems in the Church.

Let's take Brigham Young's racism. It's no secret that he said some pretty terrible thing about race, and particularly about mixing races. The Deznats have been saying "Brigham did nothing wrong". But as I researched the issue I was able to trace Brigham's attitudes out of the Church and scripture and to bad science and American culture of the time.

Basically at the time there was a theory, presented as pure scientific fact, that if a black and a white interbreed the resulting offspring would become sterile in a few generations. With that bad 'sciene' floating around it ment that in Brigham's mind people who married outside of their race might as well have been castrating babies in the crib. So I can kinda understand the intensity of his emotions.

If Brigham had only been more willing to question the cries of a corrupt and apostate world and seek the will of the Lord, he could have saved a lot of pain and suffering and heartache. In my pure Church vision, we accept the divinity in all people, regardless of what the world says.

I see Mainstream Christianity as the major force corrupting the Saints on the topic of LGBTQ. During Joseph Smith's first vision he was told by Jesus regarding the other churches that "They draw near to me with their lips but their hearts are far from me." Where is that clearer that in the treatment of LGBTQ? People saying, "I love God and all his creations" in one sentence then condemning his creations to eternal hell in the next.

Polygamy teaches us that families in heaven are allowed to be just as complicated as they are in life. If they can be good and joyful on Earth they can be good and joyful in Heaven. In my Deseret Nation we embrace and defend all families, no matter the size or shape.

That's what bugs me the most about Deznat. That I understand and agree with the urge to just get all the stupid, backwards people out of the church, because it would make everything so much better. It bugs me more that we disagree on what the end result looks like.

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Charlotte Hornets Acquire Eric Leckner from Sacramento for Two Second Round Picks

On January 29th, 1991, the Charlotte Hornets traded a 1993 second round draft pick (Alex Holcombe) and a 1995 second round draft pick (Dejan Bodiroga) to the Sacramento Kings for Eric Leckner.

The Sacramento Kings originally acquired center Eric Leckner along with guard Bobby Hansen and three future draft picks in a three-team trade that saw Pervis Ellison end up in Washington and Jeff Malone go to Utah. 

Leckner joined a Kings team that had Ralph Sampson at center, but the position would become crowded quickly. Soon after acquiring Leckner, the Kings drafted center Duane Causwell in the first round of the 1990 draft. Next, they traded for center Bill Wennington from the Dallas Mavericks.

The pack of centers would compete for playing time and Leckner oftentimes found himself as the odd man out. Kings head coach Dick Motta preferred a center that could operate from the high post and Leckner’s paint-based style of play clashed with Motta’s vision. Leckner’s lack of playing time would cause a deep fissure in the relationship between coach and player. 

In 32 games with the Kings, Leckner was averaging 2.9 PPG, 2.7 RPG and 0.6 APG in 11.8 MPG. Operating out of the high post was also hurting his efficiency, as he was shooting a career-low 40.6% from the field.

Leckner had wanted to be traded. He was in the final year of his contract, earning $475,000 for the 1990-91 season. Looking to secure a new deal, Leckner was offered by Kings director of player personnel Jerry Reynolds the chance to leave in a trade or stay on the bench the rest of the season. Leckner approved the trade and was dealt to the Charlotte Hornets. The Kings were 12-28 when they dealt Leckner.

Charlotte gave Sacramento two second rounders. One was in 1995 and the other — in 1993 — was conditional. Leckner had to be on Charlotte’s roster a year from the trade for the Hornets to convey their 1993 second rounder to Sacramento.

Charlotte was 13-27 when they acquired Leckner. Relying heavily on veteran center Mike Gminski, the Hornets were often playing smaller players at center and needed a big body to fill the position as a reserve. The team went 13-29 the rest of the way to finish fourth-worst in the NBA with a 26-56 record. Leckner was given an opportunity to play in Charlotte, and showed some signs of development. He had three double-doubles in 58 games with Charlotte after failing to record one in his first 184 games in the league. Overall, the 6-foot-11 center produced 5.8 PPG, 5.2 RPG and 0.3 APG in 18.6 MPG.

The Hornets won the 1991 draft lottery and drafted UNLV star forward Larry Johnson. with the first overall pick. Charlotte head coach Gene Littles moved to the front office and vice president Allan Bristow shifted to head coach in a organizational realignment.

Leckner did not sign a contract with the Hornets until right before training camp. He ended up with a one-year, $618,000 deal keeping him in Charlotte. Under new coach Bristow, the Hornets planned to play 6-foot-9 J.R. Reid more often at center. That meant Leckner would have to fight to receive any minutes on the court.

He suffered, playing less often as many of the center minutes went to Reid, Gminski and Kenny Gattison. Leckner appeared in 59 games (two starts), and recorded 3.3 PPG, 3.5 RPG and 0.5 APG in 12.1 MPG. Charlotte dropped 24 of their first 32 games to start the season. The team would play better behind the efforts of 1991-92 Rookie of the Year Johnson and Kendall Gill. Still, they finished out of the playoffs and in the lottery once again with a 31-51 mark.

Charlotte won the second spot in the 1992 NBA Draft and selected Georgetown center Alonzo Mourning with the second overall pick. Mourning’s addition — plus the presence of Gattison and Gminski on the roster — dropped Charlotte’s interest in retaining Leckner. He was not re-signed.

Leckner was not able to catch on with an NBA team in the 1992 offseason. He ended up heading over to Italy and playing for Panna Firenze of the Serie A2 League in Italy. Leckner ended his Hornets tenure with a stat line of 99 games played, 4.3 PPG, 4.2 RPG and 0.5 APG. He shot 49% from the field and 62% from the free-throw line.

The conditional 1993 second rounder the Kings acquired from Charlotte was conveyed since Leckner played past the 1991-92 season with the Hornets. The acquired draft pick was slotted at 44th in the 1993 draft. Sacramento selected 6-foot-9 Baylor center Alex Holcombe. Considered a raw athlete with an NBA body, Holcombe had a 7-foot-5 wingspan and 9-foot-3 standing reach. Holcombe did not play in summer camp with the Kings because he committed to playing in Europe.

During the 1993-94 season, Holcombe played in Spain (CB Breogán) before becoming homesick. He moved on to the CBA (Grand Rapids Hoops) for the rest of the season. He played with the Kings in 1994 Summer League at the Rocky Mountain Revue. Holcombe’s draft rights were renounced by the Kings in October of 1994.

The 1995 second rounder the Kings had secured in the trade from Charlotte ended up in the 51st spot of the 1995 draft. Sacramento used the pick on Serbian forward Dejan Bodiroga. A 6-foot-8 point-forward, Bodiroga was a unique player. Though he wasn’t the best shooter or quickest player, he drew comparisons to Magic Johnson due to his size and ability to pass the ball.

The Kings attempted to woo Bodiroga to come to the United States, but he passed on multiple occasions. In 1996, the Kings were interested in using their $800,000 exception on Bodiroga, but he never signed. In 2002, Bodiroga was tempted to come, but he never committed.

A star in Europe, Bodiroga played for some of the top teams in the EuroLeague including Olimpia Milano, Real Madrid, Panathinaikos and FC Barcelona. He was well decorated, winning three EuroLeague championships and 2002 All-Europe Player of the Year.

There were a few questions about whether Bodiroga could play the NBA game, but many believed he had the skill. Still, despite all of Sacramento’s overtures, Bodiroga never played in the NBA, retiring professionally in 2007. The Kings waited more than 22 years after drafting Bodiroga before renouncing their rights to the 44-year old Serbian forward.

Eric Leckner on the trade (via the Sacramento Bee):

“Being mad or bitter now isn’t going to change anything so I’m just going to look at this as a great opportunity to start over. I’m going to get to play some serious minutes in Charlotte. I get to go to work now.”

On wanting to leave (via the Sacramento Bee):

“I just want to get out of here. I could go and talk to him (Motta) about it but it wouldn’t do any good.”

On being in the doghouse in Sacramento (via the Charlotte Observer):

“I’m in the front row of that doghouse. That was not about ability It was personality or playing style. Yeah I was in that doghouse — right next to Ralph [Sampson].”

On wanting to prove himself:

“It’s time for Eric Leckner to do something.”

How he brings a different skill set compared to starting center Mike Gminski:

“I bring a contrast to Gminski. He’s a little sneaky with a lot of 10-foot jump shots I’m strictly a back-to-the-basket player. You put a guy 20 feet from the basket and not let him rebound — that's not my style. I spent more time in the paint in practice today than I did the whole time in Sacramento.”

Charlotte Hornets vice president of basketball operations Allan Bristow on acquiring Leckner (via Deseret News):

“Eric will provide us depth inside without sacrificing our immediate future. He will also spell [Mike] Gminski from playing too many minutes and since he is such a young player, we hope to help him reach his promising potential.”

Sacramento Kings head coach Dick Motta on Leckner (via the Sacramento Bee):

“He was so uptight. The high-post, low-post thing is a cop-out. If you want to score in the low post you’ll get there.”

How having four centers was an issue in Sacramento (via the Sacramento Bee):

“We should never have come out of training camp with four centers. We didn’t know that Ralph Sampson was going to be with us for the whole year. It wasn’t fair to us. It wasn’t fair to any of them. Between Bill Wennington and Eric, we felt Bill gave us more.”

On Leckner being nervous (via the Charlotte Observer):

“Every time he got in a game he seemed to be nervous. With four centers here there was no chance for any of them to relax. It wasn’t fair to them or us. I hope he looks at it as us breaking up a logjam not picking on Eric Leckner.”

On how an incident where Leckner kicked a chair out of frustration meant more than just the chair (via the Sacramento Bee):

“When I’m upset with myself I never let anyone know it. That’s my edge. When Eric kicked that chair, I told him the chair would still be there tomorrow and so would the anxiety that had built up inside of him. He had so much anxiety. He never learned to relax and play.”

On the roster glut at the center position:

“You can’t have four centers. I didn’t think Ralph would be here. I had to go with Duane [Causwell] because he needs experience. I want him to play 2,000 minutes this year. Maybe it’s a mistake because he hasn’t earned those minutes, but I’ve got to do it. That left Eric and Bill [Wennington]. I thought Bill gave us more. Any way you look at it, it wasn’t a good situation.”

On Leckner’s dissatisfaction with his role in Sacramento:

“I never try to be friends with my 10th, 11th and 12th men. “You can’t do it. I hope Eric does well. I didn’t mind working with him. We just didn’t have time to keep him around and see what developed. I hope Eric is still playing in the league 10 years from now. I don’t know if I would bet on it. But I hope he has a nice career.”

Hornets center Mike Gminski on the toll playing 36-plus minutes a night was having on him (via the Charlotte Observer):

“I can (play that long) every once in a while but a steady diet of 40-minute nights would have taken its toll on me.”

Hornets guard Kendall Gill on how acquiring Leckner could help them stop a recent losing streak (via the Charlotte Observer):

“You just don’t know how badly I want to win. I’ve never experienced anything like this. I’m glad we’re getting another low-post player [Leckner]. That’s got to help.”

Image via Getty Images/Rocky Widner

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The Church-owned newspaper Deseret News published an editorial on why the state of Utah still should not support the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA), which is back in the news as Virginia considers voting to ratify it. 

The problem with the editorial is it recycles arguments from the 1970′s which are no longer valid. 

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Background information - The proposed ERA amendment was passed by the US House in 1971 and the US Senate in 1972. It needs 38 state legislatures to ratify it in order to become law. 

35 states ratified the amendment by 1978, but 5 have rescinded their ratification. The due date to ratify the amendment was 1979, but later extended to 1982. Congress can again extend the deadline. Otherwise, Congress can begin the process again by voting to move forward anew.

In 2017, Nevada ratified the amendment and in 2018 it was ratified by Illinois. The text of the amendment is very simple:

Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. 

Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. 

Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification. 

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I’m quoting the main points made in the Deseret News Editorial and adding my comments below each one. 

1) The ERA may deny women preferences in state laws pertaining to alimony, spousal support or child custody. 

Nowadays spousal support isn’t automatic, it usually applies to instances where one makes extremely more than the other. Often that support is time-limited to give the spouse who wasn’t working, or was working part time, prior to the divorce, a chance to ramp up and get a job. 

In the 1970′s, it was common for mom’s to be given custody of the children in divorce cases. Today most divorces routinely result in joint custody because dad’s love their kids, too. 

Monetary support for the children should be made to the primary caregiver, no matter which gender they are. 

2) The Equal Rights Amendment also risks constitutionalizing abortion once and for all. 

Abortion is constitutional, has been since 1973. 

3) Laws regulating public modesty differently for men and women would likely be unconstitutional. 

This argument seems like a red herring, a distraction. We’re willing to forego giving women equality under the law because it might mean some might not cover their breasts? That’s a huge price to pay in order to keep breasts hidden. Modesty laws have a repressive history and mostly they’ve gone by the wayside in the United States with the exception of indecent exposure (exposing genitals and/or female nipples in public spaces).

Even in states where nipples aren’t included in the indecent exposure law, few women walk around topless. I’d be surprised if there was a huge increase in female nipples on display. 

If the ERA requires all nipples to be allowed in public spaces or no one to expose their nipples, I guess men will just have to get used to keeping their nipples covered or deal with the face some women insist on showing theirs.

4) During times of war, women would be conscripted into military combat, just like men. 

Women have been allowed to serve in combat roles since 2013. And since 2016 women have the equal right to choose any military occupational specialty such as ground units. Women serve in military forces around the world. In Israel, national military service is mandatory for all Israeli citizens over the age of 18 with few exceptions. 

Even if they were still relegated to being nurses and secretaries, why shouldn’t they get called up to serve their country if a military draft is instituted? Which, by the way, the last time this happened was 1973, after which we moved to an all-volunteer military force. 

5) Does it mean just male and female, or does it also include sexual orientation and gender identity? 

“oh no, trans people exist and this might force us to recognize them” 

Even without the ERA, LGBTQ+ rights is progressing. Marriage equality is the law and many states incorporate sexual orientation into their anti-discrimination laws (even Utah, although it gave religious institutions an exemption). 

6) it also fails to fully appreciate the way the ERA risks federalizing state family law…While federal enforcement is necessary and helpful in many instances, with regard to the unique character of family law, a federal lens can often become detached from the rich community roots that nourish families and inform state law. 

You know, the funny thing is the article points out that since 1895 the Utah constitution has read “Both male and female citizens of this State shall enjoy equally all civil, political and religious rights and privileges.” The fear is that the Federal law may not including the “community understanding” of when such protections should not apply. 

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I like the quote in the editorial from Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg: “that the equal citizenship stature of men and women is a fundamental tenet of our society, like free speech.”

[coaz-photography]

A Challenge of Authority

Ellies fires upon a Free States Scout at a checkpoint, killing the man, on her way to Santa Barbara.

[tarhalindur]

The Midwest’s name is actually fairly simple.  By American standards, the term is actually pretty old - I’m not sure about specifics, but it’s probably from somewhere between 175 and 250 years ago.  Remember that America was settled from east to west (for the obvious reason that the US was, famously, a set of British colonies before they rebelled and Great Britain is on the other side of the ocean to the east); when the term “Midwest” came into vogue (at least in its modern use), it represented the parts of the country you got to before you got to the actual West of “go West, young man” (mostly the actual west coast, the Columbia Plateau, the Southwest, the Rocky Mountains, and the Great Basin - although if you were going to the Great Basin at that point you were probably Mormon and calling it Deseret).  More accurately, it’s the parts where you were going through free states to get there (so north of the Missouri Compromise line)

(The Great Plains are also west of the Midwest, but until the Indian Wars of the late 1800s those were mostly controlled by the remaining Native American tribes and while there were early pushes to settle the region (Kansas/Nebraska) farming didn’t really become viable in the region until the advent of some new tech advances (notably those famous windmill water pumps) around 1890 or so.)

As for Texas... honestly, having lived there I think the map has this slightly wrong.  Texan is a superidentity in practice, much more like how the concept of Christendom functioned in medieval Europe (or, perhaps more accurately, like how “American” itself functions) - if you’re native to the state you’re a Texan, but that’s on top of whatever region of the state you are in.  (This has a whole lot to do with the part where a) Texas is very large even by American standards and b) Texas is *quite* varied in climatology-wise, consisting of no fewer than give climatic regions.)  Most of the regions are pretty correct, but at least prior to the big in-migration of the last decade and a half I would split the region currently labeled “Texas” into two and rename both: the western corner of that region is Texas Hill Country (or, if you’re like a whole bunch of conservative Texans, the People’s Republic of Austin - the region was heavily settled by German liberals fleeing the failed 1848 revolution), and I’d call the eastern 2/3rds Heart of Texas after the song.

(Also, it might be worth dividing the Deep South into two subregions roughly split by the Mississippi River.  I’ve been up and down I-20 a lot; there is a major difference in tone between the east and west sides of the Mississippi, although the terminator is probably actually Monroe, LA.  Shreveport and northeastern Texas (with the arguable exception of Tyler) feel very different than Alabama and Georgia do (or even Mississippi, though some of that’s because for some reason everywhere I’ve been in that state feels like a Death Row town - my guess is that it either has something to do with cotton cultivation or is a lingering effect of slavery and segregation, but who knows for sure), and I don’t think that’s just because of Shreveport being a minor gambling haven.  My guess is that the difference is a combination of settlement patterns (IIRC the American Nations schema has its Upper South/Greater Appalachia region extending all the way into northeastern Texas - with Tyler ever so slightly south of the dividing line, too) and Acadian/Cajun influence (it’s pretty easy to find Cajun cuisine through large parts of northeastern Texas, and when I was there my impression was that LSU - *the* Cajun university - had the second-largest fanbase in the region behind only Texas A&M).)

USA Cultural Regions Map

[cksmart-world]

The completely unnecessary news analysis

by Christopher Smart

February 23, 2021

UTAH LEGISLATORS: OUTLAW TRANSEXUAL RIOTERS

Enough it too much. It's one thing for trans girls to cheat at soccer but when they start rioting and burning police cars they've gone too far. We have to put teeth into our laws to bring safety to cops and soccer moms. Hanging should not be ruled out — that'll make 'em think twice before cheating at volleyball. A bill that just passed out of legislative committee would outlaw burning police cars and would keep housewives in Cottonwood Heights from marching in neighborhoods dressed as Mardi Gras Indians. “Enough's enough,” said state Sen. David Hinkinbottom, who sponsored the legislation, known as the “Rioters Suck” bill. “We saw what happened in Washington, D.C.,” he said of the violent storming of the U.S. Capitol by Trump supporters. A companion bill sponsored by Democrats to outlaw Trump supporters died in committee. Many of the “Rioters Suck” advocates are members of the pro-gun group United Citizens Alarm who promised to never allow Utah to become Portland. A second companion bill to outlaw Portland was sent to interim committee for study.A spokeswoman for the ACLU objected to the “draconian” legislation, declaring that trans soccer players are not a threat to democracy. Nonetheless, the bill is expected to pass.

THE GREEN NEW DEAL DONE FROZE TEXAS

We warned you about them windmills. They done blew all that cold air down from Canada and now look — everything is froze. That's what Texas Gov. Gregg Abott said. It got so cold that Ted Cruz had to go to Cancun. This here so-called emergency is not from de-regulation those leftist whine about. See, down here in Texas we know how to run a free-for-all-market economy without a bunch of regulatory stuff — and that keeps the coal and gas industry happy, and that keeps our Republican lawmakers happy. We're happy and free in Texas. You see, it's people like that AOC woman — who lives in communist New York — who want to destroy freedom and jobs by saving the environment. If they had their way this place would be nothing but windmills and solar energy doohickeys. What would happen on a cloudy day with no wind — it's just like Trump said, you couldn't watch TV. Of course nobody's watching Duck Dynasty now anyhow and the pipes have all bust and there's ice on the TV set. But it's like former Gov. Rick Perry said in a call from the Ritz-Carlton in Cancun: Texans will happily freeze to death to keep the federal government from telling us what the hell to do. (Dozens of frozen dead Texans couldn't be reached for comment.)

DANCING ON THE GRAVE OF RUSH LIMBAUGH

OK, you've had your fun, now stop dancing on the grave of Rush Limbaugh. According to the LDS Church-owned Deseret News, such glee is not good for the soul. “The death of a human, including Mr. Limbaugh, doesn’t give them a free pass from accountability,” the editorial posited. “It would, however, do wonders for us to recognize our own sins of contempt, avoid dancing on the grave of the dead and cease to spew such angry vile toward anyone.” And speaking of spewing angry vile, Limbaugh did just that every day to 15 million Americans aimed at minorities, women, gays and liberals. He gave rise to Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and other broadcast haters, which eventually led to the rise of Donald Trump. Here's a taste of what Rush said: "Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society." "When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it's an invitation." "The objective (of the migrant caravan) is to dilute and eventually eliminate or erase what is known as the distinct or unique American culture … ." “There's no major sickness component associated with secondhand smoke.” Ironically, Limbaugh died of lung cancer. Darn.

Post script — Everything's coming up roses. Trump is at Mar-A-Lago, Rush is six feet under and folks are getting vaccinated. We've hit the trifecta. Great, now all we have to do is defeat Climate Change and brace for “Spermagadon.”(We are not making this up, folks.) From 1973 to 2011, the sperm count of average men in Western countries had fallen 59 percent, according to experts. Epidemiologist Shanna H. Swan's new book, “Count Down” is subtitled, “How our modern world is threatening sperm counts, altering male and female development and threatening the future of the human race.” Finally, the solution to homelessness. If you were putting off the purchase of a new Porsche or a weekend in Mesquite, this may be the excuse you've been looking for because we may soon be joining the Neanderthals in the fossil record. “Honey, you'll never guess what. I just got a great deal on a Maserati and you're just going to love the color.” Of course for men it's a double-edged sword (no pun intended). Their genealogical line could die off, but on the bright side there's reduced risk of getting the secretary pregnant. As for women, unwanted pregnancy could become a thing of the past. It could really screw up the Right-to-Life industry. Tip: Dump your stock now.

OK, Wilson, we should celebrate our good fortune. And the guys in the band are looking pretty happy. What can you drum up to send us on our merry way:

Groovin' on a Sunday afternoon Really couldn't get away too soon I can't imagine anything that's better The world is ours whenever we're together There ain't a place I'd like to be... Just groovin' on a Sunday afternoon Really couldn't get away too soon No, no, no, no We'll keep on spending sunny days this way We're gonna talk and laugh our time away I feel it coming closer day by day Life would be ecstasy, you and me endlessly Groovin' on a Sunday afternoon Really couldn't get away too soon No, no, no, no Groovin', uh huh... Groovin'

(Groovin' — The Young Rascals)

[home-and-fertile-land]

North American countries, rated totally unbiasedly

Canada: Ok, I guess. I like the snow and the flag and the being where I was born and all. Unfortunately, we’re all going to slowly die out because we’re too pearl-clutchy to let teenagers be surrogates. 7/10.

Gilead: I... guess these guys aren’t going to die out any time soon? Good job on that. Lots of points taken off for the coup and the bombing Cascadia and that creepy Handmaid shit. 2/10.

Deseret: Okay, I suppose. If I lived here I’d probably be engaged already and on my way to getting married and having babies, which is better than my current state of being. Unfortunately I’m an atheist, so I’m not super into that Mormonism thing. 5/10.

Mexico: Man, I get it, humans are in a population downspiral, but no abortion? Even in the case of “the baby is Literally not going to live to breathe”? That’s just cruel. Also you’re in the hottest ass-parts of the continent, so points off for that. 4/10.

Cascadia: If I lived here I could be having a baby already and be setting myself up for free college, but I don’t. The country’s a pretty sweet deal for teenagers all around, really. 11/10, totally not biased, see post title.

[tittaislamic]

Luciform guild black desert

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&gt &gt Every trade in Japan has a Guild, and they are said to have been. as ppl said Leviathan is gone due to Wiggles quit the game. It is further stated that the country had temples of black and white stones. List for Croxus needs to be made again it seems. Leviathan, Addicted, ShadowElite, Ember, Sanguine, Macabre, IHYDRAI, Dishonored, Ginnunga, Marauders. So overall my new top ten looks like (no order ofc): I also wanna mention than BANE transformed into a new guild called Macabre, they are also top ten ofc alot of high geared ppl but missing alot in numbers. IHYDRAI might be top ten they for sure have some great pvpers but they are not that much in numbers but i think they are more a thread than marauders or any of the guilds above.

#Luciform guild black desert plus

Oblivion or Revenant for sure not top ten never see any of those via the croxus channels. Joué par plus de 20 millions dAventuriers - Black Desert Online est un MMORPG daction en monde ouvert offrant des graphismes à couper le souffle, un système de combat sans égal et des aventures inoubliables.

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Weekly guild events (Vell plats, Garmoth CTG, Ferrid, Mudster, Offin, scrolls, battle arena, movie nights). descrier descrive descry desecate desert desert deserted deserter deserve.

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No node wars, but feel free to defend your grind or fellow guildies. bizarre bizet blab blabbed blabber blabbing black black blackcap blacked. Ginnunga also has some good ppl but Overall i am not sure if they are top ten - maybe. 18+ growing community-focused guild looking for active members The most important thing for us is to build a good, chill community. Moderns would generally use the terms soulbody. Marauders are kinda growing the last weeks definitive we have to watch them. and immortal, which luciform body is shut up in this terrestrial (body). If you guys like small scale they are maybe something to consider. On the other hand Dishonored splitted out of sanguine again but if you dont know dishonored are a small scale pvp guild with great Quality but their passion for small scale might not let them count here. desentimentalize deseret desert deserted desertedly desertedness deserter. ShadowElite, Leviathan, Addicted, Ember, Sanguine, Celestial - thats it.Īs you mentioned guys i recommunicate with some other ppls from Croxus and you are absolut right.Īctually Celestial is going to divide themselves or have at least serious problems so they actually dont count in here anymore. blabber blabberer blachong black blackacre blackamoor blackback blackball.

[antihumanism]

white marxbros hate it when you point out how stalin and lenin both supported liberation and independence for the free state of deseret

Nevermind I love politics online