#for example punching nazis is really good at reminding other people that nazis are excluded from polite society
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shego1142 · 5 months ago
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This video is in many ways the best documented real life example of exactly everything discussed in this post!
People talk all the time about “facts over feelings” on every side of the political spectrum, but yeah, in actual practice, feelings will win out every single time.
This video is actually very dear to me in many ways because I believe that if we all go into a situation with the approach of attempting to make friends, even with people we may perceive as enemies, we’d be happier as a collective.
Changing people's minds on major things is actually a very long and difficult process for both parties. I didn't actually believe that pedestrian-centric city design would be better for people that drive cars until I spent almost a year living without a car and watched hours of youtube videos explaining the issue to me. Turns out that traffic actually does go down and driving does become more pleasant if you make it harder to drive a car and easier to walk. I just straight-up refused to believe that for years. Because people just talked about it like it was obvious. But it wasn't. Because I had spent my whole life in a car-centric city going around in a car and also I was an English major in college who did not study urban planning. You can't expect me to change my entire mindset around transportation all at once. I did reach a eureka moment like two weeks ago but that was after like three years of getting exposed to these ideas periodically and living without a car for 11 months.
And yeah this post is about my big dumb animal brain accepting the science behind narrow roads and the evils of certain types of zoning laws, but it's also about stuff in general. If you don't know why someone isn't changing their mind on something, it's probably because the information they're getting hasn't reached a critical mass in their monkey brain yet. Whenever you hear stories about people changing their minds on things or leaving a certain ideology the story never goes "A person on the internet did a slam dunk on me and then I changed my mind."
It's usually a long process that happens over the course of months or years. Seeds planted here and there that coalesce eventually into a new thought or ideology over the course of years or snap together or send someone down a new path after a certain event. Same with me about pedestrian-centric cities. For me the tipping point was finding this video, which isn't necessarily super special or the best and the guy who runs the channel, in my opinion, isn't the most qualified or the most sympathetic towards every city in every situation, but it was the feather that tipped the scales in my brain to "Oh, wait. Maybe everything I thought I knew about how cities work is wrong actually." But that video alone didn't change my mind. With the amount of stuff and people that have gradually and gently been giving me information over the past couple years, something else was bound to eventually change my mind.
People on Tumblr yelling about abolishing the car, if anything, slowed down me changing my mind. Every time I saw a person saying that driving cars is stupid and that cars are bad I took a step back into my old way of thinking in defense. Because I grew up only ever using a car to get around. Rhetoric like that felt like a direct attack on my family, who I know to be loving people who care about other human beings and who drive cars literally everywhere.
And you might say, posts and videos like that aren't actually an attack on people that drive or have to drive. Okay then. Why are they phrased like that? Because that makes you feel good? Because you're angry? Alright, your anger at how it's currently impossible to get around if you don't own a car and how people who don't actually want to drive are being forced to drive is reasonable. And now I understand why it exists. I'm kind of angry too now that I get how this stuff works. However, is calling the people you're trying to convince stupid to their face and immediately bombarding them with your most radical ideas that might be completely detached from their reality and how they understand the world really the most productive way to channel your anger?
What about a guy with a knee problem that lives in rural Appalachia? Do you think he is gonna be convinced by your angry rants about bike lanes? No. He lives on a mountain that he can't climb or bike up because he's disabled and has only ever known getting around in a car. What about a person who overheats easily living in a suburb in the middle of the desert? Do you think she is inspired by your green lush pictures of trolleys running through parks in The Netherlands? No. If she leaves her house for too long without ice water she could literally die and you're going on about getting rid of, in her mind, the only thing that lets her go to the grocery store and not faint.
And again, this post is about my inability to comprehend walkable cities, but it's also about everything else you might ever want to convince someone of. The way you talk about things with your in-group that knows exactly what you're talking about should not be the same way you talk about that thing with people that you're genuinely trying to convince of something.
#life lessons#communication#this is just like important#it’s about meeting people where there at#this is actually a lot like how#I frequently get a lot of petitions from well intentioned but ultimately misinformed people#who live in America but really want to outlaw non traditional meats in other countries#meat ranging from rabbit to horse to animals commonly thought of as pets#and they’re like ‘we should be super harsh and mean to anyone who even so much as tries to buy this!’#and I always delete those petitions because not only are they absolutely useless (not all petitions are but these in particular are)#but they’re also deeply flawed in the actual issues surrounding their goal#if you’re trying to fundamentally change how a large number of people live their lives and the food they eat#most of whom are poor which is why they are eating alternatives to the much more expensive meats like beef#and you’re going about it by attacking innocent people just for trying to survive?!#then you’re really not going to do very much good#if you make a food source for many people illegal then you’re just making it more hidden and unregulated#and those who are desperate to survive and keep their families alive will continue to utilise the now much more unregulated system#and those who are unable to use this new system will suffer and ultimately not be able to survive#those who are able to use this new unregulated system may be prone to sickness due to the lack of regulations#there are some things#not many but some things#that you can prevent or eliminate by using aggression#for example punching nazis is really good at reminding other people that nazis are excluded from polite society#it will not however convince the Nazi to not be an asshole#that’s really not something you should even attempt to do because debating them is what they want#but someone just genuinely trying to see a new perspective?#befriend them#or someone who’s important to you and you really need them to see your pov?#be kind and gentle#also look up the DEARMAN dbt exercise
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