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Star Wars Legends: Poll of the Week — You said WHAT?
Legends is filled with smooth talkers and brilliant strategists, but there are plenty of times when characters display a talent for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. Which of these moments is your favorite instance of “open mouth, insert foot” for a Legends character?
During a post-mission discussion on the Mon Remonda, Wraith Squadron pilot Elassar Targon comments that General Han Solo has been “running scared” from Warlord Zsinj, right before Solo turns his chair around to reveal his presence. Elassar then spends the next several days begging his squadmates to use their special skills to murder Elassar so he doesn’t have to endure the embarrassment (X-Wing: Solo Command)
Based on a brief conversation on comms with the new leader of Twin Suns Squadron, Wes Janson decides she has a nice voice and asks Wedge and Tycho if she is hot and single, clearly interested in pursuing her…only to learn (after a fair amount of teasing on their part) that she is nineteen-year-old Jaina Solo, daughter of his Rebellion colleagues Han Solo and Leia Organa (The New Jedi Order - Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand)
In the middle of a battle over the Katana fleet, Borsk Fey’lya admits to Talon Karrde and Leia Organa Solo that he only pretended to care about the New Republic military as a means to gain political power and does not care if Rogue Squadron and others in the battle die, as “anyone not on my side is my enemy” – not realizing that Leia has turned on the internal and external comms systems, broadcasting Borsk’s admission that he doesn’t care about the military…to the military (Dark Force Rising)
Wes Janson asks Reina Faleur on a dinner date; when she demurs that she has a date already, he encourages her to break it to go out with him, but she tells him “Captain Antilles wouldn’t like it” – as the date is with Wedge (X-Wing: Rogue Squadron #32, Mandatory Retirement part 1)
Corran Horn tries to play tough guy while bargaining for a cache of weapons on Tatooine, telling his opponent, “That’s Mirax Terrik, Booster Terrik’s daughter. If you know what’s good for you, you’ll go.” When the man laughs in his face and Corran wonders why that didn’t work, Mirax reveals that the man he’s attempting to intimidate is Booster Terrik (X-Wing: The Bacta War)
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Bonus 7: Time moves sideways
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#poorly drawn mdzs#better drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#Despite a whole ass inspiration board for reference - it turns out drawing and colouring half submerged people is a CHALLENGE.#I am channeling the zoobie bunny and internally screaming “WHY DID YOU THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA”.#What I wanted was a cool transition between present and past! What I got was a very full mouth of my own foot!#That said: there are aspects I really like about this one and I feel like I got most of the way to where I wanted it to be.#Water is hard to draw and I am saying that even after dedicating a full 4 page comic with people in the water.#Forget hands. Water is my new nemesis.#I love how floaty this flashback transition was. The hazy mind wandering as LWJ carries him as a set up to recollection!#Aren't memories an incredible thing? To relive a moment in your mind? To have time repeat again and again?#And yet it is always a little different when we go to recall it once again. We are different people than the person we once were.
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Every day I’m haunted by the fact the boys happily swim in sewer water
Even if it’s filtered somehow there’s no way it’s not still nasty 😭 Bet they can defeat any of their villains just by accidentally giving them diseases I swear
#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#bless their hearts but they’re nasty#it’s funny because like#each and every one of them has moments#where they’re a typical disgusting teenage boy#and then the next they have STANDARDS#can’t blame Leo for being so determined to go to a spa#even if he nearly licked his own foot that’s prob cleaner than anything else the boys have been up to in years 💀#thank you shelldon for all your hard work cleaning after then 🙏#they’re all gross teenage boys!!!#even Donnie he is NO exception here#bro was DRINKING A BEVERAGE while wading through sewer water he is just as gross as his bros#bro also talks with his mouth full he is no more refined than his equally gross bros fr and I love it#but yeah no way that water isn’t disgusting even filtering it would still leave grime on the walls of the sewer for yearsss#pros of them moving into an abandoned subway system is fixing their sense of smell enough to not be as gross#100% that’s part of why they didn’t mind being so filthy pre shelldon#because I mean they were literally raised in the sewers and they’re teenage boys like that’s a double whammy#THEY ALSO DONT WEAR SHOES#the few times any of them do the shoes are discarded before heading home 💀#I love them tho they are endearing anyhow#April’s immune system must be godlike just being around them fr#honestly no joke Mikey’s probably the cleanest of them all#just by virtue of being a chef#Leo I see as a mixture since he no doubt loves to pamper himself so he’s clean like#a percentage of time before he goes out and ruins his own hard work#Donnie is similar in that he’s just VERY SELECTIVE about what he thinks is too gross#Raph may be more on the stinky end but it’s not his fault he has his stinks and eats things of dubious origin(esp since his bros ate poison)#Donnie and Leo really have the gall to be sick about Raph eating the origami salami but they have no room to talk#all their villains are prob like please stay away from us we have salmonella now
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i gotta talk about my low empathy james fitzjames headcanon actually. i prommy i don't use it to excuse any of the acts of violence he committed against his fellow man (not just the colonialism either, but things like the petty rivalry with crozier that borders on bullying prior to the death of franklin) because as a low empathy person i know that's not how it works. but i do think that viewing his actions through a lens of understanding that both circumstances such as his birth and being a part of the british empire as well several choices he's made in life (particularly his sycophantic attitude towards those in positions of greater authority whose favour can work in his and his participation in active combat) have led him to become broadly alienated from other people and both their and his own emotions makes them more interesting.
#🐉#because like. he fucks up in social interactions in a way that screams low empathy to me.#particularly in conversations with franklin where he sucks up to him too hard and fails to recognise franklins growing displeasure#until hes shoved his foot in his mouth. and the way he defaults to clumsily rehearsed social cues ('hear hear') and statements#which betray an incredible lack of sensitivity to the tone of the conversation being had.#theres a strong sense of a man trying to fumble his way through a darkened room to his social interactions#the moment that the framework he relies on to successfully navigate them is stripped from him#fitzjames
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i also have unaddressed therian feelings… sometimes i feel like a creature looking out from a human’s body yk
i get what u mean..!! im still trying to understand it too, but im happy to finally have a word that describes the feeling. i cant say for sure what will help u come to terms with your feelings, but i think its good to find people who will listen and take it seriously ^_^
#thank u for sharing your thoughts btw!! youre definitely not alone. a lot of things are starting to make sense for me now lol#i appreciate furry art and i think the community is fascinating but i dont see myself connected to it and i think this is probably why#i think.. there is definitely an overlap between therianthropy and the furry community and thats why they seem to go hand in hand#and im sure there are therians who also identify as furries. but the difference i think is somewhere in the approach#furries are more involved with costumes and characters but with therianthropy its like seeing an animal as part of you innately#like whenever i shake my foot i always somehow imagine it as a dog tail wagging.. and sometimes for a small moment my#mouth feels wider and full of sharp teeth when i yawn. its hard to describe but for me its like an out of body experience#i thought this just meant i have a doglike personality which. isnt wrong but well. i guess it runs a little deeper than that lol#this might also explain why ive been drawing the same dog creature for weeks and couldnt explain why#yapping#therian#art#doodles
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Okay it’s been like a week i think that’s a decent amount of recovery time, I think i’ve about worked through it, I think i’ve pieced myself together at least a LITTLE
SO, lets get this show back on the road, maybe i’ll get more than one episode in this time WE’LL SEE
WHATISUPEVERYBODY WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER KNOX REACTS POST WITH A LOT CAPS LOCK AND A LOT OF KEYSMASHES, ITS GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE AGAIN, LETS GET STARTED
Spoilers for Monkie Kid season 5 episode 2 ahead
MMMMMMMMM OKAY SOOOO THIS ONE’S CALLED COLLAR THE KIIING.GOSH. WONDER WHAT TAHT COULD BE ABOUT. [looks at trailer] [looks at camera]
okay, listen, i got mixed feelings about using the circlet again, I mean, I dunno what it is, might be something pretty different, but the OG circlet was kinda like… as much as i like use it for angsty purposes, it was a big part of Sun Wukong’s journey. Bro had very little self-control, was quick to violence, you could say—what’s the word…. —allegorically??-wise it was kind of something to give him a reason to hold back. After he no longer needs that, he’s completed his journey, that circlet, disappears. Because he has that self control now, he’s ascended to buddahood or however you say it. (To my understanding at least.) So whipping it out as a way to snipe the OP character—I dunno man. I feel like something different could’ve been done. Especially since, to my knowledge, that kind of… will-bending thing is reserved for Guanyin to give out, rather than, some random guy. Like you can’t just dish those out willy nilly. Who gave him that? Bro we haven’t even started the episode save me hG;LKAJWEF I just think maybe they don’t know what to do with a character as OP as Sun Wukong sometimes, they do everything they can to snipe him, so he can’t do anything, and it makes him feel pretty useless. But like?? They seem to have no problem with Mk because bro as some pretty world-shattering looking powers at this point, and they ain’t sniped him yet, aside from his crippling anxiety and terror and all that.
… I dunno. We thinking. I PROMISED NOT TO TRY AND FILTER MY THOUGHTS SO Y’ALL ARE GETTING THE WILD UNFILTERED GARBAGE IN MY HEAD AT YOUR REQUEST SO GODSPEED HGL;KSDAFJAOWEF
Also, about the last ep, before I press play. I still think, Pigsy was off. Voice acting and writing. Like, is it character development to slowly erase a characters personality aside from how they care about another character? I don’t know! You tell me! I’m only one episode in! This’ll probably changed i don’t want to look like too much of an idiot so we’re going to get started! LEGOOO
The theme song still hurts me. They just.. REALLY like their tilted angles. Like SO much. Like… i just need to watch this with my head tilted to the side. It’s really bad. Listen, I’m all for a tilted angle here and there for some impact, but almost every new piece of that rigged/puppet animation in the theme song is all tilted in the same direction. It’s tripping me up, and I honestly don’t really like looking at it. GUYYYYSSSSS I’M TRYING HERE I’M REALLY TRYING |;A;/
OOOO HELLO VOICE ACTOR
BRO HAS A NICE VOICE. WHO IS THIS? I DON’T KNOW ANYONES NAMES HAHA
Okay, I will say, I do have one positive thing to say about this new animation and that is that they like, the backgrounds are still pretty decent. Like, they’re definitely missing the flair Flying Bark had, but they aren’t too far off. I will say tho, okay, I forgot to put a disclaimer I’ll add that later, but for now we’ll say a little something here. I realized after watching the first episode of this season, that the reason I fell in love with Monkie Kid, is because I fell in love with Flying Bark and their energy and their love for what they create. Even if this new studio pours they souls into this new season, I don’t think i can ever care about it the way i cared about the first four, because the reason I fell in love with it, is no longer here, the soul of it has changed, even if the writers stay the same. Like, we’ve had the writers change a bit once before, but the soul of the show stayed the same cause Flying Bark stayed the same. Now, that’s not the cause but ONCE AGAIN THOUGH, IT IS TOO EARLY TO REALLY TELL, this is just my thoughts right at this moment. Bro i haven’t even reacted to the episode i’m just uNLOADING NONSENSE I’M SO SORRYIGNS;DLFKAMWEF
MOVING ON GENTS SKIP AHEAD SKIP AHEAD
Y’know good call, it is pretty funny that these three monkeys always seem to be in the middle of trouble. Not to bring up HP but like, it does remind me of a scene I remember distantly watching with the whole “why is it always you three?” Little funny
OKay
OKAY
INAHLES.
Another tilted angle, hi buddy, has anyone counted these? We should count, just for comedic purposes—
I do think like… I’m so sorry, I’m so used to hearing what I want to hear while watching these, so when they’re falling, and I see Mk, I expected to hear him like, yelling but we only get that once he like… hits the ground. I do like the landing noises. Woof i’m hyper analyzing all this sound design now that i know the sound design people changed or whatever. Wowza. We in unfamiliar territory booooiiiis.
YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES ME SAD?? YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES ME SAD— wow i’m 47 seconds in and i’ve paused like forty seven timeslKMGOAWEF— ITS THAT I’LL NEVER SEE MONKEY KING’S REAL HYPED UP BITS IN FLYING BARK’S ANIMATION. I’LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT HE CAN REALLY DO WHEN HE’S NOT HOLDING BACK WAILS. LIKE THAT SMOKE BEGON MOVEMENT? This is hard guys, i am such a visual person, I am strugglingggggg HG;LKAJFWEF I WANNA LIKE IT, I REALLY DO, I’M STRUGGLING
Okay yeah reaction right uuhhhh undersworld kings!! ten of em right? HEYYY GUYYSSSSS HOW’SA GOING, I CANT’ BELEIVE WE GET THE TAKEN TO COURT EPISODE, JUST IN THE UNDERWORLD INSTEAD OF IN THE CELESTIAL REALM RIP GKS;LJAFAMWEF
helpHELPGN;LSKDFA;OWEFIM HELP?? KAY KAY HOL UP
CACKLES
CAKCKLES SO LOUDLY
So
So either
writing error
or
listen, how did Mk know he was in bed… unless he was awake… when Pigsy carried him… upstairs… I’M JUST SAYING FOLKS, I’M JUST SAYING, HOW DID HE KNOW? HE SUPPOISEDLY FELL ASLEEP MID-NOODLE-EATING, HE DOESN’T KNOW HE’S IN BED, COULD HE HEAR THAT WHOLE ILY SON BIT?
If I close my eyes this aint’ so bad— CRIES WAILS I’M FINE
Anyway, point is, i’m saying Mk was in fact awake during all that. He just decided to pretend to be sleeping so Pigsy would carry him or something CACKLES
ONLY STRIKE WHEN YOU’RE ASLEEP—HELPGMLKASFMSDF Y’know I still think SWK in fact drunk himself to an early death still, silly little head canon, rather than falling asleep bro just was like alright folks i’m an alcoholic wdym you can’t take me down there i’m alive— whew its hot, there is a HEATWAVE HERE, AND smoke so we fine we fine AHEM ANYWAYS
SO
SO WHAT I’M HEARING
IS MK’S SLEEP-DEPRIVATION, KEPT THESE GUYS FROM CALLING
HAHAHAHA
Also wow, Macaque talks like he wouldn’t be deathly afraid of these guys. Isn’t this the same dude that was willing to turn on humanity for the Lady Bone Demon if it meant not dying again???? ??? ??? But he’s gonna get huffy with the underworld kings????? Bro
Swk is a fashionista real Cool robes so true
Okay cool monkeys are
in court
WHEEZEKLMGOAIEWFM
OH
OH
OH OH
KAY
LISTEN
I HEARD SOMEBODY
DRAGGING THEIR SSS’S
HELLO
I HEARD THAT
I KNOW HWAT YOU ARE
I KNOW WHAT THIS
THAT MY FRIEND IS SOMEBODY
THE VIBE IS DIFFERENT
ARE YOU ARE SCROLL STEALLING FELLA IS THE QUESTION
I might be out to lunch on this I’m just thinking about that medusa haired bird snake lion turtle creature thing and I’m thinking one of these guys, is that guy. Jusssssayin
Anyway wow I gotta go back and process words now
Okay
Cycle
….Right
Cool
Cccccycle
Yeah
squints
That aint’ sus at aaall
hmmm Harbrrriingggerrrr
Also wait yeah, speaking of the pillars of the universe or whatever HA I NEED TO WATCH THESE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ONCE AGAIN STARTED TO REBLOG MY POSTS WITH SPOILERS IN THE TAGS, I SAW A CONFIRMATION ABOUT PILLARS OF THE UNVIERSE SO IG I WAS RIGHT ON THAT
THEORY TIME BEFORE WE CONTINUE LETS GO
MK DESTROYS THE PILLARS OF THE UNIVERSE BABYYYYY
UM
OOOO OR HE’S MEANT TO
HAHA
Could you imagine
Y’know my bros and I had a theory about Mk being made as like, a way to take down monkey king, the entire universe is just the next step of that theory ig haha MOVING ONNNN BBYYYY
Okay
OKay i laughed a little
i still think some of the dialogue sounds awkward, i don’t know what it is. Um Sean still giving his best performance here tho thanks bro we love and appreciate you. I did laugh because it is funny they re-summoned him. I do find it interesting that no one seems afraid of Sun Wukong. Like…. they make all these references to stuff he’s done, but no one really respects him, or vies him as an actual threat? I mean well, clearly they do if they gonna slap a circlet on him. But its like… bro ripped his way out of here last time, and y’all are gonna??? Not be nervous?? I dunno. Monkie Kid really likes to take sun wukongs backstory and kinda… giiiiive a lot of his motivation to other people so he’s just… acting for others rather than for himself, if that makes sense??? Like with Azure, they had Monkey King being manipulated into attacking heaven, rather than his pride getting a kick and him wanting respect and all that and y’know prideful hours. Among other things. Like I get this is a kids show but man he feels watered down at some points, he really is just a silly goofy guy in this version, who everyone thinks is out to get them, but they don’t fear or respect him. …its weird. I dunno. Its a weird way to do it, Iv’e been thinking about that for a while, but its really apparent to me right now, perhaps because i’m not distracted by GOD TIER animation. Who knows.
Y’all i am having TOO MANY THOUGHTS
Moving on I got a backlog of nonsense this is just dump for all my thoughts godspeed to anyone who doesn’t hate my guts and my takes by the end of this LOL
We love swk looking smug about every crime he’s ever committed. I do like that they let him keep that at least. So he did that on his own yayyyy
Similar crime huh? Funky
Scroll of memory was stolen
-_- y’know at least they got one thing very right from jttw, absolutely BOGUS accusations from the celestials against monkey king 24/7
SOMEBODY GET MK OUT OF HEREMGS;ONWAIOEFM
Its a dream so he get the suit
Monke y c o p c o u rt ro o om a d d i t i o n i cannot you guysGN;LKAWEFM;AFE
Macaque’s face when mk asks fort the charges is comical yeah
Swk looks about ready to go back to dreaming about peaches
Sniffs
“yOuR aCtiOnS” shut your mouth king guy clearly you’ve never stepped foot outside in your fancy pants robe go touch grass
“we should leave” YEAH GERAT IDEAKLMGOIFAWEF
okay so this is the part where they slap the circlet on then cause they gotta stop swk from bodying his way out
sighs
SIGHS
well on the bright side, monkey king angst real ig
I’m Stil having a \REALLY hard time looking at this new style my brain is dying, ITS NOT CAUSE ITS BAD ITS JUST CAUSE ITS NOT THE KIND OF STUFF I LIKE, ITS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I LIKE EXCEPT I CAN’T BLOCK THE TAG ON TUMBLR BECAUSE THIS IS THE SHOW NOW [face in hands bro] So happy for everyone who’s totally unphased by this change but mAN this feels so different to me feels like coming home and someone moved into your house and replaced all your furniture and yeah its the same house but its not—
K
face in hands bro
YEAH CUASE THE MONKEY KING IS JUST GOING TO STAND THEIR LISTENING TO THIS GUY INSTEAD OF MAKING A DOOR WHEN HE SAYS HE’S GOING TO, LIKE
Y’know what i liked about flying bark? THE FACT THEY DIDN’T DO THISKLGMAOSI;FMAEW I’m so sorry guys I got gourmet animation and now i’ve got regular food it just is not the same and I am struggling to adjust because i miss flying bark. I didn’t have points where iw as like wow, they really just stand there and listen to this instead of taking action, but this is all standing and listening and no taking action which i guess could save on animation budget but BOY do i suffer for it I DON’T LIKE IT WHEN THIS HAPPENSSSSSS
I may be overlydramtic about this, its okay just hit me with a bunch of pool noodles guys i’m fine—
Y’know with the amount of time these take me to watch i really am probably only gonna be able to do like one a day n;LKGMASF
So
I pressed play
“We have brought a power even greater than yours”
and then i was so deadpan because i was like here we go circlet time (sidetone, the colours i don’t like something about them, I don’t like it, its off, its not pretty) and then Nezha pops out and i literally went
“WHAT?”
HELP?? WHAT??
“HAHHAH THIS is your big scary?”
sniffs
Okay fr the dialogue is off
its very off
whats going on guys
whats happening
is this cause the writers are being rushed?
bro i dunno
I might be losing my mind
oh heyyyy it’s Nezha’s daaaaad
Also what.
Tell me WHY (aint’ nothing but a mistake—) Nezha is here, when he kNOWS these guys were not responcible and DID IN FACT HELP SAVE ?? STUFF?? HE WAS THERE??????? I’m questioning… some decisions…..
nEZHY GH;LASKFJASDF
Okay
THE WAY I LAUGHED
Li jing I don’t actually know how to spell his name
IS NOT THAT POWERFUL
BRO??
JTTW
??? HAVE YOU READ IT??
MONKEY KING KICKED HIS BUTT??
HE WENT CRYING??? TO THE JADE EMPORER???
my hand is over my face
I cannot
why
tell me why (ain’t nothing but a mistake—) monkey king seems nervous
like
the pagoda thing is that what its called? the building that was used to snatch and hold people prisoner i remember a version of a jttw show has them snatch all his monkeys in it and use it to blackmail him into surrendering, i can see what that thing might be a problem but LI JING???
Sneezes
I laughed
again
they made
him the
I’m fine we’re just gonna move on
Well—
Okay well actually he can be replaced. that’s his…. whole thing. He… he gets replaced… eventually… and the cycle goes on. That….Am i remembering that wrong? Y’all i might just be out of date with my lore memory here i
sniffs
I don’t like him
go away Li Jing—
Oooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiii need to get over the animation. It is NOT like i have mad skills its HARD to do, i need to just get over it, but monkey king pointed and that finger is so pointy what happened i’m so
its fine
I’m fine
They’re so severe
OBJECTION
WE’RE GUITLY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT
Ohhhhhhhh so they went
.
you can’t see my face rn but i sure a making one
so they went, he’s boss man now… so he can… do that….
sniffs
I dunno man
circlet was form of like… not to say that pain is a good… thing to do, but like… its the only language that monkey king knew how to speak when he was trapped under the mountain and at the beginning of the journey. “this is wrong” “HA SO?” “okay well, if you do this you feel pain” “okaywaitwaitwait—“ like… it was a form of mercy (hence Guanyin) because otherwise, he would’ve gotten thrown under the mountain cause he hadn’t “chilled out enough.” So… I dunno. Like wildly misused by triptiaka but i doubt Guanyin gave this one to Li Jing because its not about bettering its about collaring and leashing. I dunno duuuuuuude. Angst is spicy but like…. I’m having a TIME here HGLK;SADFJASFD
Once again
You’re telling me
MACAQUE
would realize whats happening
before monkey king
you think
monkey king
wouldn’t know IMMEDEATLY
what that guy is talking about
AND DIP
INSTANTLY
to get away from that
like
.
not like bro was tied down he really is just standing there waiting for that thing to be slapped on
This is something
it sure something
I WANNA ENJOY THE CHARACTER MOMENTS BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS GETTING TO ME I NEED TO LIKE WATCH IT AGAIN IN ORDER TO APPRECIATE WHATS HAPPENING OR SOMETHING RAA It’s fine, its fine, I’ll probably process around episode five and be fine and move on. i hope. probably
ALSO WAHT YOU CAN JUST?? SLAP THAT ON FROM A DISTANCE?? MONKEY KING HAD TO PUT THAT ON HIMSELF IN JTTW—
I need to let jttw go a bit if i’m gonna make it through this season;LKGMAW;EF THIS IS SEASON 4 ALL OVER AGAIN WITH SOME OF THISGLKS;DF
Okay, maybe i am stalling a little bit because i know there’s going to be screaming and that is gonna be WILD
well there might not be we’ll see
“aww macaque was running up to stop it—“ yeah i love that we get only macaque reacting and not the guy who’s literally gonna be experiencing intense pain, and we see NONE of his horror we see macaque instead.
….
as a monkey king fan this upsets me— NG;KLAWMEF;A
LISTEN I’M GLAD MACAQUE FANS ARE EATING
I AM STARVING
it’s fine, if i saw monkey king making horrified expressions i’d probably just start missing flying bark its FIIINE
WE’RE ONLY THREE MINUTES IN SAVE ME I’M CRYING ON MY HANDS AND KNEES TAKE ME AWAY FROM HEEEEEREEEEE
LISTEN I WILL TRY AND BE MORE POSITIVE MAYBE AFTER THE INITAL REACTIONS AND ONCE I’VE PROCESSED MAYBE
WOUGH
okay time for screaming probably
.
you know what i’m gonna try
i’m gonna try watching with my eyes closed
and see if that makes a difference for how i feel about this
just for like a few seconds
just gonna try
beaST WATCH YOUR MOUTH LI JINGOHHHHH WOW YEAH SCREAMING WOW
wwwwoah
Sean went wild there okay hey man wow i can see why he was being all wow this seasons wild guys wow
sniffs
cool beans
me two years ago would be FEASTIN on this angst
maybe i’ll be feasting again once this all converts to flying bark png hGLK;ASJDF
watching again with visuals
. . . . i don’t wanna sound mean. like fr. they worked really hard, they have a totally unrealistic set of deadlines to meet when making this show cause lego is STUPID but like… i liked it better with my eyes closed. Like, seeing the visuals, I aint’ feeling it. IT DOESN’T FIIIIIIIT THE EXPRESSIONS DONT’ FIT THE SOUNNNNDDDSSSSSSSS RAAAAAAAAAAAHGHDFLKJSDFJJF FOAMING AT THE MOUTH
Listen I appreciated Flying Bark SO MUCH while it was animating Rise and Monkie kid. I gushed about them to anyone who would listen, i made an ENTIRE YOUTUBE CHANNEL JUST SO I COULD POST AMVS ABOUT THEIR ANIMATION, I APPRECIATED THEM TO HECK AND BACK. And i STILL feel like i should have cherished them more while i had em because this is just…. like every other kids show that you see when you slap on the tv on a treehouse channel or something actually i’ve seen ones i like more u h hhhh like again, i’m not saying its bAD, i’m just saying i don’t like it. Not my vibe
Y’know i feel a little bad cause i know i’ma be disappointing some of y’all by not like… being like OHHH DANNG BRO WAHT WHAT WHAT?? CIRCLET WHAT?? MONKEY?AUGHAUGHAA?? cause like that’s what i should be doing?? THATS HOW I SHOULD BE REACTING??? This change is like effecting me more than i expected ig dang
Alright sorry guys, half of this “reaction” is just me working through my stages of grief WHEEZEKLMG;LAKSDFMASDF
MOVING ON
alright mk monkey up and get em outta here
Also why not just circlet all of them to be safe? like realistically—
au where— nah i’m kidding
OH YEA MONKEY UP KID sniffs
SNIFFS
SCREAMS
i’m fine
holding hands and being reassuring despite being in immense pain to comfort Mk? HA
I’M FINE
I gotta say though, I don’t feel Mk’s panic…. I’M SO SORRY FOR THIS BUT COULD YOU IMAGINE??? IF FLYING BARK HAD DONE THIS???? WE SAW THE LADY BONE DEMON EPS THIS WOULD HAVE LIKE DESTROYED ME
<— having a moment
WE’RE FINE
OKAY
continue
I do appreciate, Monkey King’s absolute dedication to Mk, it’s interesting. I think the dynamic is interesting. Mk is just…. incredibly dedicated to monkey king, and monkey king is INCREDIBLY dedicated back. Only seems to care about how Mk’s doing. He just wants to make sure he’s okay. And that’s great. It actually works a lot better on Monkey king than it does on Pigsy. Like it feels like everyone is VERY suddenly touchy and like… the mentor father figures are hugs and gentle touches and carrying upstairs, and i dunno its throwing me off a little. With PIgsy specifically. Lost his gruffness i miss that part of him a lot. I miss pigsy guys. Fr tho i do think it fits the monkey a bit better, even if howwww…. long the touches are is new and feels p sudden
[scratches neck] dunno. we got mixed emotions here today folks!
Mk calming down immediately
OH SO NOW HE SAYS SOME—
-_-
y’know i don’t know if i like this.
bro came in looking like he knew exactly what was gonna happen, says absolutely nothing. And then gasps BELATEDLY after the circlet is on—its just… the pacing is all over the place, the characters reactions are delayed its yanking me out of the… like i CANT’ GET INVESTED WHEN ITS SO JARRING?? like bro they—HUIH????
its fine
whatever, gotta let us know Nezha ain’t the bad guy or whatever i get it
only four minutes in monkie kid gods save me
okay i laughed out loud
THEY JUST SLAPPED THEM IN A BOX
AHAHAHAHAHA
THERE’S CHAINS HANGING
AND THEY DONT’ EVEN USE EM
ouughhfffff i can’t look at that for too long it is OOOOFF
oooooooOOUGGGH THIS IS A CHOICE
tighter???
rubs face
HUH????
I ain’t feeling it foooolks
bro should be having a panic attack i’ma be reaaaal, like, play dumb, lighten the mood, we know he does thiisss BUT “i really really didn’t want to wear one of these again” feels like bro is just wearing an uncomfortable “i’m stupid” hat
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO I GET ALL THE PUNISHEMNT AND YOU GET TO MOPENGLKASMFAOWEFM
Hey how did i predict this conversation but more emotional? y’all should go check out the comic pebs made of that THIS WHY PEOPLE KEPT REBLOGGING THAT WHILE TAGGING IT AS SEASON 5 SPOILERS OH MY GODSGN;MLASFAWNGF;OIAWMEFSAFE
I’m blessed by Apollo y’all i’m blessed
suitably distracted now
okay this is a weird arguement now
no kay it
I’ve had to re-listen to this exchange like four times to understand it mAYBE IM JUST SLOW NOW?? Macaque and Wukong’s arguments are really……….. interestingly worded??? i dunno, i’m having a hard time processing them n all that
love how mk just goes right back to trying to get it off and wukong doesn’t even react G;LKAMWEF
GOES AT IT WITH THE STAFFG;ASLKDFMAWEF
oh hey wassup nezha
Mk appreciates Nezha thinks he’s so cool, get ready to be disappointed in the dude— /j/j/j
TENSE IN HERELGKMSFOAIWEFM
It’s not that tense, also why is it tense?
Y’all should have heard the sound i just made while making strangling motions with my hands
MK FEELS OFF WHY ISNT’ HE LIKE… MK-ING Y’KNOW WHAT I MEAN?? he feels like he’s just avoiding rather than… IS IT WEIRD I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE PERSONALITIES ARE MISSING?? WHATS GOING ON??? Its’ the same writers whats going on DO I REALLY NEED EXPRESSIONS TO UNDERSTAND AND CONNECT TO CHARACTERS THAT BADLY??
Save me y’all
Oohhhhhhhh
Y’know
girl bringing mic closer to face meme thing yeah that was me looking at the bits of hair getting swept out nice move mr the king ily
I do love Nezha dropping by i think its great
Monkey King making fun of him as always we love to see it, Nezha reacting and totally missing whats going on again, we love to see it, bro keeps getting beaten by monkey kings hair BG;LKAMWEF HAHAHA
DEMOTED LOSERRRRR
okay
okay i made a little OOAWWWWWWWW sound that’s actually super cute bUT ALSO WDYM YOU’VE LISTENED TO MONKEY KING EXPLAIN THINGS BEFORE AND ITW AS FINE—
Kay listen, I do appreciate the family bits in this, but it also feels like they’re forgetting about a lot of development that has happened, so they can go LOOK HOW MUCH OF MK’S DADS PIGSY AND TANG ARE ISN’T IT CUTE? and i’m like… brother…. brooooooo my duuuuuuuude it is but can you do that without… blehOKAY ANYWAY
MOVING ON BEFORE WE GO ON ANOTHER TANGENT I’VEB EEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME ALREADYGNASLKFMSDFM
tellin us about the pillar explaining it, appreciate that thanks, hhhhhhhhoooold up so like… someone’s trying to destroy the pillarrrr…. and they need…. mk? to do it? maybe? I dunno man we just spitballing here
SEAN SOUNDS SO DIFFERENT HELPGMKL;DAMFASDF
huh
that’s funny
while they’re explaining the story or whatever there’s a mortal that has me’s haircut but with a bun
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haha
i’m sure that’s just me
and not indicative of any mk being a being who has existed before around the same time that something was broken haha NOOOOO
yeah yeah i know this story mended the pillar cool stuff
WHHHHAOOOOh what why does he sound like that? WHY IS HIS VOICE SUDDENLY SO HIGH MACAQUE????? MAC?? Is this the sound design again? I am so thrown by so many things right now save meee
Sure is suspicious
Nezha never has any idea whats going on when Mk or wukong are in the room
Macaque is used to shenanigans by now he grew up with the great sage
Mk being chaos incarnate and not just ADHD sure is funny
is this an allegory for neaurodivergency— /j/j/j/j
oop another tilted angle hey its almost been three minutes!!!
….y’know how i always used to just get this ray of sunshine from mk like just, absolute positivity and goodness? I ain’t getting that no more the vibes are LOST
and a pain crown on’s head THAT’S NOT BEST FRIEND STUFFKMSLDF
AHAHAH HE GOT EM
HE GOT HIM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I’M A CLONEGLKMSAF;OAWEMF YESSSSSS
CACKLES
AHAHA DOUBLE TAPPED DOUBLEELKMG;OIFMAWE
DOUBEL GOT
GOTTEM TWICE
what did that remind me ofOH THOR AND LOKI
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
hey that’s fun
The way Nezha has watched these guys fight tooth and nail to save the world and still wants to slap em back in jail is hilarious to me
Also this feels like a fake out villain season now
like PSYCH YOU THOUGHT NEZHA’S DAD WAS THE BIG BAD?
WELL I GOT NEWS FOR YOU ITS NOT HIM
just because of that bit Mk said n all that making me squint
ALSO THAT DUDE THAT WAS DRAGGING HIS SSS’S I’M TELLING YOU ITS THAT GUY WE ALREDY KNOW ONE OF THE UNDERWORLD KINGS IS SKETCHY
Jailbreak kid hours
Okay i will say i loved Nezha’s VA yelling Wukong its a great vibe he’s doing amazing
Y’know i just can’t sometimes with these celestials
i love monkey king laughing joyously while spears are being thrown at him i think that’s very wukong
oh hey they did a team up move that looked like what Lupin keeps describing in the battle team up moments with them all the time stares
this guy thinks he’s the main characterKLMG;AWEF
CACKLES
I SUPPORT ALL OF MONKEY KINGS CRIMES
HE SHOVES THEM BOTH OFF THE SIDE OF HEAVEN
OKAY SANDY SOUNDS WRONG TOO
HE SOUNDS WRONG TOO GUYS IT CAN’T JUST BE ME
Sorry Sandy nothings’ built to last around these monkeys
Macaques scarf over his face i think its funny how fast we went from actual threat macaque to introvert hiding in a scarf macaquehG;LAKJWER
Okay a little bit of snappy pigsy there but ONCE AGAIN HE SOUNDS WRONG, okay so the like… yeah probably the sound design or something they’re missing something in their voices i dunno what it is but its driving me nuts it feels like they changed all the voice actors but Sean’s sometimes
….Y’know it really feels like they’re just trying to force discord between monkey king and macaque with no reason and with like… no actual emotional argument buildup?? its just yeah monkey king gets mad at him this fast and macaque mouths of constantly. this from the guy who followed them around for the samadhi fire like, I dunno man
“what if we really are chaos”
that was far too specific a line to not mean anything down the line what now are they gonna snatch chaos and hit people with it ?
SNORTS
Okay i’ma be honest y’all so far it feels like macaque is the main character of the season because we keep getting shots of his reactions to things happening and like nobody elses this feels like the macaque show rather than the monkie kid crew show
Pigsy finds out his son has become a criminal ;LKGMAW;OEFIMF
TIME TO FIX oh dont’ do me like tat bro don’t show me glimpses of something akin to flying bark pls
oh whats up pagoda
LIKE THERE???? WE DONT’ GET TO SEE THE REST OF HTE CREWS REACTION TO THE CIRCLET???????
where’s the soul guys there was a reason i could never really pick a favourite in the show its cause they were all so beautiful in every moment whats going on—
-_-
i need to slap some rose coloured glasses on asap so i can start being more positive or so help me—NG;LKAMWEF
Macaque has main character syndrome WHEEZEGKLMAFOAWEF
also like bro, the monkeys dont’ get in the truck and no one leans out the window to say lets go??
i feel like i’m missing half the ep
Macaque, with a tortouredly concerned voice: WUKONG Macaque’s expression: :0
not a thought behind those eyes
ahem relistening to this—i’ve never had to replay bits just to understand whats going on before this is taking SO MUCH LONGERLKMSA;FWE
like how come macaque can swoop in and do that just swat the pain activator away and monkey king didn’t do that himself before the circlet got placed on him we’ve seen how fast he is
okay is this the sacrifice myself season? everyones just gonna try and jump on the train with macaque starting us offG;LKAMWEF
HELPGASKL;FAWEF
Wukong, in pain: :0
i am having a TIME
love how sandy does not hesitate to hit the gas nobody even says to go he just goes which eeehhhh but also whatever==
ohhhh ohh i cringed sorry
i really need to fix my mindset so i can watch this without wanting to stick my head in a puddle
he’ll get away right he always gets away—yeah that tells me no and yup there you go nope he got snatched easily WAIT HE GOT SNATCHED?? HELP?? this is why we got so many macaque reactions cause they’re gonna bench him for half the season had to cram in as many moments as possible i’m so sorry macaque fans—
HEY ITS THAT SSSSS GUY
I’M TELLING YA HE’S A SNAKE
I’M JUSSAYOH
OH HA
I’M STUPID
THE SET
MEDUSA SNAKE GUY
I SAW THOSE SETS
THAT’S THE GUY GOT IT
I’M SO SMART
WELL
okay that was a RIDE
There was some funny moments, some whats going on moments and some wow what moments fr if i didn’t have somewhere to be later today i might tackle another ep but as of right now i think we’ll save that for later, i swear these reactions get longer every episode.
Thanks for sticking with me till the end, I promise I’ll get better once i process I hope or i’ll perish in a puddle of depression, honestly its 50/50 at this point
I don’t think i’ll ever stop missing flying bark while watching these eps, the way i could analyze every character expression brought me so much joy but yeah! we shall see where this goes and hopefully i can watch the entire season before someone spoils me in reblog tags WHEEZE
SEE Y’ALLIN THE NEXT ONE, TAKE CARE AND REMEMBER TO HYDRATE. KNOX OUT o7
#knox rambles#KNOX REACTS (me)#lmk s5 spoilers#wowza what a time with ep 2#just gonna post this and call it good godspeed to anyone who chooses to read#people requested unfiltered so we went with unfiltered#i apologize in advance#i will probably like and enjoy it more after i've processed and all that i'M JUST STILL GONNA NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME FOLKSGN;LSKDFM#anywho we'll just post this and dip before i ramble until my face turns blue SEEYA#pls have mercy on my foot-in-mouth moments :pray_hands_emoji:
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Oh my god 😭
#literal nightmare foot in mouth moment lmao#this is something i would have done when i was younger though like i can relate to just saying without knowing#but also? if i was was seungmin i'd never get him a present again like nah nahhhh#lmao
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really funny all the time writing siffrin right now because ill be like wow you know he's handling things pretty well atm and then i look at my plans for ******** **** and grimace very visibly
#chatter#writing talk#-holding cartoonishly large mallet over their head- they've had it too good for too long.#******** **** will be soooo fun#you can see the exact moment where loop accidentally puts their foot in their mouth so hard#that it causes the rest of the fucking fic to happen in the first place#******** **** -big book- vs ********* **** if loop hadnt said the exact wrong thing at the exact wrong time -tiny book-
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...so she met up with the club's founder as soon as she got back from work. after all, she needed some friends who didn't have scales!
#don't be fooled by his smile#fred's an old grump who smells like wet wool#and doesn't know how to cook for himself to save his life#he also has like zero filter - whatever pops into his head just comes out his mouth#no matter how rude lmao#but if you get on his good side he can have his sweet moments haha#plus he can string a fishing pole with his eyes closed 😎#(yes i had to look up what that means ssshh)#love getting bogged down in minute details of background characters 😌#my storyteller brain never rests#beatrice whipple#fred foote#whipple legacy#whipple: gen 1#the sims 4#sims 4#ts4#sims 4 gameplay#ts4 gameplay#sims 4 legacy#ts4 legacy
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a conversation I shared on Discord months ago:
Me, watching a random Inuyasha episode: "You know..... sometimes when I watch this series, I just think.... 'I've written porn of this guy.'"
My fiancé: "Instead of slaying demons, he's slaying Dat Ass."
#I think he summed up InuKag smut pretty succinctly lol#Starling ramblings#Inuyasha#Inuyasha fandom#InuKag#InuxKag#Inu x Kag#Inuyasha x Kagome#watching Inuyasha with my love#writer issues#according to my records it was episode 89: 'Nursing Battle of the Rival Lovers'#which is one of THE best filler episodes and one of the BEST InuKag moments#however..... I can see where that train of thought came from#because homeboy puts his foot in his mouth in the beginning of the episode soooo much lmao#fanon Inu: cocky sexy Adonis ready to rock Kagome's world#canon Inu: can't even string together more than 2 sentences without some sort of foot-in-his-mouth moment#(and yes..... guilty as charged lmao)
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every so often I come on here and see another unhinged theory as to why the mcelroys fell out of fashion and like. wow y'all try so hard to not blame travis for things that you circle back around to....blaming travis for things.
#truthfully they just had some very popular content and then their new stuff after that didn't hit as hard with the general populace i think#i know they've all out their foot in their mouths on occasion but I don't think there was any Mass Cancellation or Exodus#i think people just. moved on to the next shiny thing lol#also the rona nerfed their touring and such which of course did not help#but srsly after balance and like golden era 2017-19 monster f/actory and m/bm/bam...of course there was a bit of a falloff#same thing happened to m/fm lol. during rona they just crashed a bit bc both the hosts took the panini hard#and hell if i still listen to lp/n shit after the Ben Incident im not gonna drop the mc/elroys bc trav had a bad moment on twitch or smth#my third eye is open and i can see people trying to be good despite mistakes and tragedies#anyway im watching their streams tonight and just vibing. little tipsy. getting annoyed at one (1) post in my fyp
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i know "tell dont show" is a really bad issue here but its "interesting" that sparkpelt being all angry and yelling at twigpaw and "infantilizing her" or whatever is all shown onscreen but when she apparently improves, we dont see it, its just a throwaway line that apparently shes just a better mentor now.
#could put my foot in my mouth and they show an actual nice mentor/apprentice moment between them but i bet no#also im going kinda out of order bc im glancing at sparkpelt scenes on ctrl f and i dont wanna lose my place#avos liveread
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Ok I genuinely don’t care if James Cameron is like a renowned submarine scientist or whatever I worked for a company that worked with him once and he’s an entitled piece of shit and the producers that work for him are also entitled pieces of shit and he treats employees like crap so yeah I really don’t care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#i worked as a receptionist at a prod company and I never met or spoke to the guy#but everything I heard about him and the people I did speak to were AWFUL#someone called and I asked who was calling as is protocol#and he was like you have the AUDACITY TO NOT KNOW WHO I AM#like expecting us to know their names and faces by heart and wait on their hand and foot every moment#like sir i would send chungledown bim to shit in your mouth if i could
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i will never forget when i was at a beach party in morocco and a cute guy told me he was a tattoo artist so i asked where his tattoos were and he says "an artist paints on a canvas not himself"
and all i could say in response was "did u practice that line in the mirror?"
safe to say he got big mad lol💀💀
#IN MY DEFENSE#MUSIC WAS LOUD I DIDN'T THINK HE WOULD HEAR ME#that's at least on top 15 on most embarrassing foot in mouth moments#swaggypsyduck storytime
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Im just soso obsessed with figuring out tim as a character rn i cant stop thinking abt it (ive always been a jason todd girlie but i read ur fic and that angsty twink latched onto me and refuses to let go)
I think u have a pretty good hold of him, especially bc in present comics writers are so intent on elevating tim in spite of other characters (barbara and her hacking skills for example, or any comparison made btw him and any robin, really) that most portrayals of him are so boring it makes me cry, while you on the other hand took the approach to write about his flaws (which are MANY) while still making him charming and handsome (he is so... !!!!)
To me flaws are also tied to not only the good traits of characters but also their core beliefs and ideals so what can you say abt tim?
I know he can be stupidly arrogant and patronizing at times, that he's always idolized the position and legacy of robin and constantly fights his insecurities with this role and his abilities for the job, that he can also be incredibly selfish or outright mean when it comes to being mindful of other people's feelings for the sake of logic (re when he didnt tell tam abt his dad not being actually dead), but at the same time i cant figure out exactly what he wants to do with his role as robin (or red robin) or why he would want to keep going when his main goals first were just making sure bruce wouldnt go down a dark path, im pretty sure he mentioned not being a vigilante forever but his actual goals remain unclear to me
(Im in the midst of reading his solo robin run but ive read red robin so give me a little room for this, you are definitely free to talk abt more of his comics bc i havent read everything yet and everything im saying should be taken with a grain of salt, video essays and the issues ive read can only get me so far)
He could have gained an inherent desire to help people after all his time as robin and the so fucked up shit that happened to him, maybe as a ways to channel his grief (much like dick and jason and bruce, im thinking abt identity crisis here) after he isnt "needed" as robin anymore, but at the same time that would be so tragic because he was supposed to be different to them, he was supposed to remark the importance of robin's role in helping be "batman's light" and not becoming like batman himself, its just so interesting and im still trying to really understand the extent of his character so id just. Love to get ur thoughts and musings on what fuels tim as a character and how you see him
(I dont have this problem with jason bc his moral conflict is very crystal clear to me and also so freaking juicy, his actions are logical and so understable, granted he also hasnt had as much screentime as tim and i can see when writers just Dont Get Him, misunderstanding the original intent of his character coming back etc etc etc, tim has grown and evolved throughout his tim as robin so this might factor in too)
Anyways sorry for the long post i hope this is alright !!! Loved ur fic to bits and ur writing is a blessing mwah
okay HI i am not exaggerating when i say that i have been thinking about this ask since you sent it HAHA tim is just a parasite in my brain he won't let go...
that's the funny thing about portrayals of him today... i feel like people want to elevate him as a potential batman or a character closest to bruce in terms of intelligence and detective skills, which isn't true at all, i think (because, exactly, you have babs Right There), and of course, narratively, this is all a good thing (this post covers it well, i think). it's in the same vein of people making tim out as the most dangerous person in the batfam, should he ever chose to go down the path, which i can partially blame red robin (2009) for with this panel....
(and i don't think that's true either. he has the potential to be dangerous just like any of the others but i think the ones to really be scared of are babs, dick, and cass but ANYWAY)
in general, red robin 2009 was a bumpy time for tim with bruce's death and his spiraling, but it seemed to really inform what they were going to do with his character. no more time for the civilian life, committing himself much more thoroughly to The Mission like bruce. which is, if you ask me, a negative progression of his character, which isn't bad, exactly, in terms of storytelling, but it feels like all we get are the 'good parts' now -- the intelligence, the status, the resources, and then we don't get to grapple with the consequences.
there were some in red robin 2009 but it was more tim accepting them and making no move to change his actions, which is fine, but now... idk. but i also don't touch modern comics with a ten foot pole so this could just be. Wrong. but that seems like what's going on. so i feel like that's where people get the idea of him being... idk not the Perfect Robin exactly but. you know?
no no yeah i totally agree!
re (because i want to break this down i'm telling you i have Been Thinking About This): at the same time i cant figure out exactly what he wants to do with his role as robin (or red robin) or why he would want to keep going when his main goals first were just making sure bruce wouldnt go down a dark path, im pretty sure he mentioned not being a vigilante forever but his actual goals remain unclear to me
exactly this. he did say that and i've reblogged this at some point i think, showing a panel from robin 1993 where he mentioned he wouldn't be a vigilante forever, then paralleled with that panel i put in earlier from red robin 2009. (there's this post, which touches on another thing about tim trying to set himself apart as having friends and thus not being bruce LOL which is another topic entirely)
i think that was what red robin 2009 was - a negative progression of his character, one that, again, we never really grapple with, especially as dc shoves robin back onto him now.
his motivations are an interesting thing to me, because he did start out coincidentally, saying batman needed a robin but he didn't assume he'd be that robin, it just kind of happened because he was there (well much more went into it but you know?).
but aside from that, i've never gotten the impression tim really does it for people. i mean batman in general has been about the detective work but i think towards the 80s/90s/00s there was a shift to focusing on the people but tim has never really struck me as a hero of the people. he's more about fighting crime than he is about helping people. i think it is partially informed by the genre - re detective comics, etc - but still. he's not like, say, peter parker/spider-man, who is a hero of the people, of the working class. the people are inherent to him as spider-man. tim does it out of duty and responsibility i think, being the light to batman's dark, of course, but he's also very much a teenage boy about being robin - the cool factor, pointedly mentioning he wants to let off steam by knocking around 'criminals' that kind of thing
which doesn't mean he's unfit for it but he operates in an odd grey area as far as his motivation goes, which i think is where we get red robin? he was defined by being robin and he did his job, then he got the boot. so it is very much an identity crisis but we're seeing that negative change as he changes for the worse, for something darker. i mean, yes, red robin 2009 was again bumpy because he was at a very low point in his life but in general, that run was dark for him.
editorial wise, we'd never get to see what they made of it because they did the reboot and started new-52 a few years after. but whether he'd continue being red robin/going down this path, or if he'd shed the identity and go for something lighter... it's hard to say.
i kind of like the thought that he'd change his identity and try to take a lighter approach, try to pull himself from bruce's influence, though with how it's all set it up, it seems fated that he'd end up there. there was red robin 2009, but then there was his sixteenth birthday incident (which sounds bad here and i'd read this before reading it myself but god when i read it it pissed me off so bad... really what turned me off bruce as a 'good' father figure, i can't lie). he ultimately ends up going back and becoming robin and this is the turning point for him where he agrees to enter this mindset that bruce wants him to be in. (this post talks mainly about timsteph but it is also a point to the end about the shift in his character and how that affected his relationships as well)
i mean i know red robin 2009 is marked by the grief of bruce's 'death' and a bunch of other Very Bad Shit but even when we got past that and he had his little 'Let me let in the people who love me because i am Not batman' he then proceeded to go a little surveillance crazy and make a hit list (something like that, it's been a while..) but. yeah.
ultimately, at the core of his character, i think he is good and compassionate and kind, so, even aside from all that (like the birthday incident), i think he would've made his way there eventually. it could maybe be why we see him returning to robin, if we wanted to try and pretend dc making him be robin is a completely normal and logical decision that they actually thought through. like a way to return to the bases and feel it out from there. though i still think they could've just. idk. given him a BREAK from vigilantism to figure it out. i'm a big proponent of civilians and their place amongst vigilantes and superheroes and i feel like tim's due a break, which is why i put that stuff in my fics. i do want to see him step back and try to figure out his life, because at one point, though robin 1993 was arguably defined by the balance between robin and tim drake and had plenty of civilian friends to keep things interesting, we don't see much as far as what he wants to do. which i suppose could be part of his relatability factor that tim drake, the character, was conceived with
but idk at this point they have to give us something 😭 anyway. this got VERY long i am very sorry.. i don't mind long asks either but i might've overshot my response... alas. i also hope i more or less answered your question??? if not feel free to slide back in here and talk to me! i rambled a bit here and it's like. 3am rn i'm scheduling this to post because i wanted to get it all written Now and. yeah.
thank you SO much very happy to hear you're enjoying everything <333 hope you continue to enjoy :**
#also thank YOU for all your thoughts?? like i said i was Thinkign About This#and i had posts in mind for it and yeah. yeah. i was thinking about it all week HAHA#but also like twin brain moment because you get him <3 he is charming and handsome but he also has SOOOO many flaws and is actually rlly#annoying and puts his foot in his mouth TOO MUCH#so. YEAH. sorry this is long don't feel obligated to respond to All Of This <3 but if you have any q's feel free to ask <3#inbox#long post
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realized today that my delusions are out of control. I think that I’d have the confidence and charisma to shoot my shot w any of the celebrities I’m currently hyper fixated on however history has proven I would unfortunately avoid them at all costs or royally embarrass myself if I had to talk to them
#do not let me within ten feet of pedro pascal#or oscar isaac#any of the triple frontier boys really#especially not glen powell or miles teller#not because I am a danger to them#but because I am a danger to myself#I’d never recover from the inevitable moment I put my foot in my mouth#or WORSE (and entirely possible) the horror of me acting like a giggly school girl#it’s haunting
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