#food in medieval times

[gwydpolls]

Time Travel Question 50: Early Modernish and Earlier 4

These Questions are the result of suggestions a the previous iteration.This category may include suggestions made too late to fall into the correct earlier time grouping. In some cases a culture lasted a really long time and I grouped them by whether it was likely the later or earlier grouping made the most sense with the information I had. (Invention ofs tend to fall in an earlier grouping if it's still open. Ones that imply height of or just before something tend to get grouped later, but not always. Sometimes I'll split two different things from the same culture into different polls because they involve separate research goals or the like).

Please add new suggestions below if you have them for future consideration. All cultures and time periods welcome.

[medieval-thymes]

⊱ɱε∂เεѵαℓ-ƭɦყɱεร⊰

[neopianfreshfoods]

𝔑𝔢𝔬𝔭𝔢𝔱𝔰 𝔐𝔢𝔡𝔦𝔢𝔳𝔞𝔩 𝔉𝔬𝔬𝔡: 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔏𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔬𝔣 𝔐𝔢𝔯𝔦𝔡𝔢𝔩𝔩 🏰

[mcrcki]

"people are finally starting to head home." tatum said as she stood in the doorway to the kitchen, watching sanji by the fire. "you think there's anything left over? i'm starving." she'd been moving all day, having not realized how different that would be to her normal life.. you would have thought going back in time, things would slow down, and yet, she was busier than ever now.

@mischiefxmuses for sanji

[sirpeppersto]

okay so my college got evicted and they didnt tell us until today by putting a notice on the door 💀 so my cosmo license is on hold until they figure their shit out

[yourlocalsonia2]

I can brag that I have a Medival Times and Rainforest cafe in my state, and it isn't even that far.

[chadsuke]

Comics Read in 2023:

The Villainess Flips the Script! S1 by KEN (2021-22)

The Villainess Flips the Script! S2 by KEN (2022-23)

My Happy Marriage Vol. 1 by Akumi Agitogi & Rito Kohsaka (2019)

My Happy Marriage Vol. 2 by Akumi Agitogi & Rito Kohsaka (2020)

My Happy Marriage Vol. 3 by Akumi Agitogi & Rito Kohsaka (2021)

My Happy Marriage Vol. 4 by Akumi Agitogi & Rito Kohsaka (2022)

Otherworldly Izakaya Nobu Vol. 1 by Natsuya Semikawa & Virginia Nitouhei (2015)

Otherworldly Izakaya Nobu Vol. 2 by Natsuya Semikawa & Virginia Nitouhei (2016)

Otherworldly Izakaya Nobu Vol. 3 by Natsuya Semikawa & Virginia Nitouhei (2017)

[ID: Covers of the aforementioned books. End ID.]

[gophergal]

I desperately want a series that focuses on restaurant owners in historical settings

Restaurants are more important to civilized history than most folks realize. There have always been travelers tired of what they've been eating on the road, folks too busy to cook, and people living in homes that don't have a proper kitchen

[striderstable]

What did PEASANTS EAT in medieval times?

[medieval-thymes]

⊱ɱε∂เεѵαℓ-ƭɦყɱεร⊰

[faintvibes]

Bakery AU: Electric Boogaloo

drops this

Explanation under the cut!

Every now and then, as is the circle of life, I inevitably come back and redesign/generally remake my bakery au, so I humbly offer its latest reincarnation.

The general premise is that a bunch of dead nations (incl Prussia, because he doesn't live through the cold war this time round) try a risky experiment that's meant to bring them back to life- and it does! But they get reincarnated as humans, with no memory of their lives as nations. The remaining Nation Energy they have joins them together in their new lives through a telepathic link.

The story mostly centers around Beilschmidt Bakery- a business in Magdeburg that Almaric's (Germania's) parents decided to purchase above other candidates because of the coincidental (or so they thought) name match-up. In reality, this is a business Prussia established in the 1880s that he largely left up to locals to run, but would take Germany to as a young boy as an escape from politics. (Germany has not visited it since Prussia's death- but once he does, he's in for a surprise!)

Almaric and Gilbert work at the bakery full-time, with the plan being that Gilbert will one day inherit it. Kallisto, Navid, and Ixchel (Ancient Greece, Ancient Persia, and Thule- an Inuit culture originating in Alaska that spread across Canada for 600 years). Jules and Hazael (Knights Templar and Hospitaller) are Gil's friends from high school, who work part-time at the bakery to help pay for their education to become a music therapist and paramedic respectfully.

**I'm aware, by the way, that Ixchel isn't an Inuit name, but rather a Mayan one! There is a reason for this, both in her nation life and human one!! It's difficult to explain without going into my whole perspective on Indigenous Nations in the Americas- so I'll just say that in her human life, she's named after someone her parents were friends with but lost contact, and this is similar but not the same as the story about her name in her prior life. Hopefully that makes sense :)

Of those not working at the bakery: Romulus (Ancient Rome) is a Roman archaeologist and as a result travels a lot, Lotte (Ancient Gaul) is the Director of the Royal Archives in the Netherlands, and so lives in the Hague, Ephraim (Ancient Judea) works as a history conservator at the Jewish Museum Berlin, and Nermin (Ancient Egypt) travels the globe searching for answers on why they're Like That.

As for why Prussia dies: I'm running with the theory that Prussia becomes East Germany in canon- and that he does not in this au, but everyone assumes he does since he doesn't die/fade/whatever immediately upon becoming dissolved. In reality, his survival is due to being used to changing nature (another headcanon of mine, but I'm of the perspective- first of all, that Prussia was originally the Baltic Prussians- that the representative of the Baltic Prussians, rep of the Teutonic Knights, rep of the [independent] Prussia, and rep of the Prussia that's part of Germany all required reps of entirely different natures. Baltic Prussia/Old Prussia was a collection of tribes operating under one culture but never one organisation, meaning the representative would be more like the ancients typically were, residing over a culture but not one specific nation/tribe/organisation of people. Holy orders like the Teutonic Knights organised in small pockets within countries and territories, so being the representative of that is, again, different. And then, of course, being an independent, fully-fledged nation is another form of representative. And being a representative of territory within a nation is different again. So Prussia (the person) is clearly an adaptable little gremlin and hard to kill, even when he probably should have been- long aside over!) which means that even though he no longer represents a territory, people, or culture, he exists anyway because fuck you. Rather, he adapts to being your average everyday human, losing his immortality and boosted healing factor- but this isn't something immediately noticeable. It IS noticeable, however, when he dies and doesn't eventually get back up again. And starts decaying away.

Russia buried the body and never told a soul what happened. The rest of the world continued thinking Gilbert, as East Germany, was just trapped behind the iron curtain. This fell apart with the Berlin Wall, when Russia just would not cough him up. It became quite clear Russia did something- but no one knew what. Even the other Soviet states hadn't a clue, just that he'd disappeared years ago and no one ever saw him again. Most of them thought he probably escaped, though Russia didn't react as though he'd escaped, because it seemed like the most reasonable explanation. Now, it was clear that Russia had done something- and, they believed, still doing something, because it's not like nations die permanently when they still represent something. The reunification of Germany was partly out of the hope that it would put him out of his misery- though the thought that he might be alone and suffering, somehow managing to survive, continues to haunt Germany.

As a funky little bonus, here's the last time I made a reference for this au:

Left most of the lads as heads this time because I knew that I don't have the energy to do all of them rn.

*Ixchel has the funky little aura thing going on because in this version they all had individual powers, and hers just happened to project outwardly. Mithridates (to memory) is Navid- except the name felt a bit too on the nose, and I didn't realise Ancient Persia had a rep until I came back to the project this time around, so a lot of changes on that front. (Same with Ancient Egypt!)

[wawek]

Such a cool topic! Yeah the old italian problem I assume applies to nearly all european national dishes (we didn’t have potatoes once upon a time??). I think basically all the ‘classic’ welsh dishes are post-medieval.

The 14th c diet would have been v similar to mid/southern English, excluding influence of more hills and sheep farming (already big by 14th c), so you can really look around widely. Obviously it would have been super difficult without some sort of grain finding its way into your bowl. For those living a settled life, gruel was defintely the default (as in Poland or anywhere in Europe I assume).

Local texture I can add is walking up a local mountain/hill, the Blorenge (rhymes with Orange!!!!), with my father and collecting what we’d call wimberries (commonly: bilberry, in Welsh: lluen). These aren’t grown commerically and were v likely there in 14th c. Tiny, blue, and tasty in a grassy way.

Today’s ‘welsh cakes’ are clearly products of a later age, but the idea of cooking things on a large slab of slate/stone/etc called ‘bakestones’ (‘bake stones’ are confusingly something else) is something that we could reasonably imagine being v old. Probably something like an oatcake was the proto-welsh cake. The bakestone itself might be a fun weapon in a pinch for dnd.

So yeah, a bilberry oatcake baked on a stone. An authentic treat from South Wales 14th c, maybe.

I've never used hogweed in cooking! What would you reccomend? Oh but yeah we do have shit tons of garlic, as in most of Europe. The local castle, Castell Coch, (a weird and cool 19th c pseudo-medieval build today, but was around in 14th c too), is just surrounded absolutely everywhere by the smell of wild garlic. I use the leaves in a stir-fry instead of spinach.

Omg this is all very interesting thank you for writing so much :0c!!! I really appreciate the info about bilberries and welsh cakes and bakestones, this is all so so cool!!

And to be honest i have also never used it myself jdbdjf i just have a very hazy memory of my grandma collecting and drying it in the kitchen but i have no idea what for :'3. But ive seen it in some foraging videos now and apparently you can pickle the leaves and also use em as greens in soups ect, also spinach like... and i made a mistake as well, giant hogweed was indeed imported only in the 19th century but common hogweed is native to europe and is actually where the name for one of my favourite soups "barszcz" comes from... it was originally made from that plant i had no idea :0c bc nowdays its commonly made with beets...

[error404vnotfound]

very Catalan of me to be both mad and proud when someone with a Catalan surname is credited for something

even if they are referred to as "a Spanish person"

[lucid-fate-if]

Can we get more of Kabot's delicious desserts in-game👉👈

I mean there is a cafeteria place within the tournament since it lasts for about a month (still plotting how long the tournament lasts exactly but so far it should be a month or two) so yeah. Y'all can discuss your next gameplan over a good Taffety Tart or Syllabub like "This rounds our win, let's get em!" 😡🥮🍧😡 "Yeah!"

[aphvanity]

my best study tip is to drink four cups of tea minimum, block yourself away from everyone you love, and sing the internationale whenever youre distracted

[cephalon-sancti]

Napoleon vs the bunnies is my absolute favorite story about the man and, as a rabbit owner, I can confirm that they will try to climb you for food