#flattening stays

[badassindistress]

do you perhaps have a pattern for that gentleman's corset? asking for a friend

Hi!

Unfortunately, I do not have a pattern to give you, but I do have a way for you/your friend to draft your own.

(If you really do just want a ready pattern, I'm pretty sure my #binding stays or #flattening stays tags include some etsy shops that have binders with corsetry methods)

I'm presuming you are here because that 5 year old post of the binder with elizabethan stays method is going around again (left). I've also since made a pair of stays that flatten nicely as well (right).

The left pattern was drafted with the free Custom Corset Pattern Generator from elizabethancostume.net. You just input a little extra breathing room in the waist and the bust measurement you can comfortably squish your chest down to.

However, that was many years ago and I have since had more success using a Mariah Pattie's circular drafting technique. It has so much less measuring and math and it gave me a better fit.

Here's my post on that technique, along with her video.

And here's my post amending that to a binder instead of stays.

In short, all you need is:

a large piece of paper

a string

a pen

a measuring tape and

the measurement of your waist circumference

the measurement of your chest bound down circumference

the measurement of the vertical distance between your waist and chest.

You draw out the pattern following the video + my explanation post (this takes me about 30 minutes vs the hour or two for drafting the usual way). Then I make it longer with a cm or two at the bottom and at least 3 cm on top. One change I've made since that post was to pinch out a little dart at the arms to make it lie smoother under clothes. One day I'm going to experiment with adding straps to this design, but today is not that day.

I kept mine quite low, because I wanted a 18th century round chested look, but with straps and longer stays you could probably go flatter (depending on how much you have to flatten of course).

This is what it looks like under a waistcoat tailored according to a menswear manual:

i'll also drop here the posts of other people who've I've talked about their binders using corsetry and tailoring methods: horsehair canvas summer binder, there's another one about how convenient ribbons are for easy adjustment but i can't find it (EDIT: found it!)

Good luck and do let me know if you've advanced this research any further!

[sassypainterangel]

I MADE BINDER STAYS

lmk if yall want more of how i actually made them

[razmerry]

modern gambit has two concerns and those are 1.) wife and 2.) cats. I love it

[syrupfog]

Pre timeskip Killer was a bug

[lucabyte]

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[weirdbabs]

i cannot overstate how much i love the fact that max “others: weak, afraid, unserious. you three: not those things. actually” puckett never once tried to pretend he got out, actively tried to keep the ball gollum girl away from the court while keeping himself in harms way, and never once backed down from hijack. he’s a scaredy cat, he doesn’t want to get hurt, he’ll be one of the first to get the hell outta dodge if he smells trouble. but he’ll sure as shit stand his ground if pushed enough, especially if it’s to help others

[ahaura]

i managed not to start an argument or yell at my brother. and HE was the one who was told "not to get political at christmas" this time. 4948938493 XP granted

[legovasavouchi]

Miss HB rockin her hack job hair cut & crummy "support boot" i gave her... Yet still glam as ever as she approaches her 12th birthday

[tcfactory]

What do you think about the whole rapist Bingqiu situation? You made a comment about it under one of your posts.

Okay, this is going to be a bit long. The tl;dr. is: I really don't care either way tbh.

On the comment I kinda jumped the gun a bit, because I recently got my hands on the books (finally, they were supposed to get here in December) and I read the extras first, because I haven't read them before and was too curious about them. And I really quite dislike the Wedding extra, but I dislike it because I don't enjoy how MXTX writes sex scenes in general, not because of anything it's about. Is the scene rape? Eh no, on second read Shen Qingqiu never withdraws his consent, despite having a shit time. Having a bad first time w/ shit communication is not a crime, especially between these two idiots.

Would Binghe have stopped if he did withdraw his consent and outright told him to stop? I don't really think so, no. Like, you can say all you want about Shen Qingqiu never being direct with what he wants and playing hard to get and wanting to be coaxed along with this gay shit, but that's something we, the readers, know. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember it ever being established as something that Binghe knows for sure - and with how hot and cold Shen Qingqiu was to him all this time, how he still hides behind his masks even at the end, I don't think "I just assumed you were playing hard to get" is good enough. So the possibility of him hurting Shen Qingqiu despite not meaning to is still very much there. Ignoring the withdrawal of consent is still rape regardless of Binghe's intentions - and we all know how deep Shen Qingqiu can get in his own head when he thinks about denying Binghe something he feels that 'the protagonist deserves' now that he regards himself as the harem stand-in, he would not fight him off if Binghe seems adamant to have him even if he says no.

And honestly that's fine. It's one of those things they need to work on post-canon. You could write a pretty neat hurt-comfort fic around it imo, of Binghe getting so jealous one day that he falls in that pitfall, and the reparations and open direct communication they need to do afterwards. Or just ignore it altogether, let Binghe's protagonist halo prevent any serious misunderstanding in the future. These are characters, not real people. Their dynamic is weird enough that you can just as easily write them a happy post-canon relationship or a situation where their respective habits of hiding their true selves from each other and Shen Qingqiu unintentionally encouraging the worst in Binghe culminates in something awful down the line. Nobody actually gets hurt one way or the other.

[shalom-iamcominghome]

every convert must have the leonard cohen phase, its a right of passage for us 🤣

Honestly, I went from "this really isn't something I'm used to..." to, "actually, I'm obsessed........."

[badassindistress]

Hi I was wondering if you had a link to your pattern for the mens' corset you made as referenced in this post? I want to make one of my own https://www.tumblr.com/badassindistress/175309941631/nerdypagan1-blatantescapism-thisiswhymomworries?source=share

Hi!

That post was many many years ago, I've since had more luck with a different version. All current information is compiled in this post:

If you do make a pair that works for you, I'd love to hear about it! My stays can still do with improving and I am planning to make a third version at some point

[cynicjovial]

silly little boy goes to pride

[kylejsugarman]

i am so depressed, today has just been a weird series of compounding reminders that im alone and things have completely stagnated. there was a flattened raccoon on the sidewalk today, right in the middle of the walkway. it felt like an omen

[rewritingcanon]

if you guys wont take problematic sirius black then i will

[b0dyhorrors]

hot take but both the bastardization of and widespread belief in "death of the author" has been absolutely disastrous for media literacy and i'm not even remotely kidding

[dragonologist-phd]

You ever see an interpretation of your fav’s character arc that’s so wildly incorrect you just kinda black out for a sec