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Smithing God is steel, Fina is gold and Flann is bronze. I've connected the dots. I've connected them
To think of it, what if Flann could have been the root of the existence and the discovery of the life-giving fire?
The Old Knights are artificial life forms and generally they're from Heide, Vendrick just eventually stole their homework but he just tends to do that with all artificial life forms.
We know that people from Lordran continent used to visit where Drangleic is right now; Caitha and Fina(Nehma) were here, Nito created Fenito and Milfanito here, Seath used this place to dump a lot of crystal waste that became Cove Tseldora and "failed" experiments like Frozen Reindeer and scorpion people etc. But more importantly, it is very possible that Heide was where Gwynevere and Flann used to reside after leaving! Perhaps, some other Gods that never came back too!
It would make sense if some traces of Flann's magic were rediscovered, especially since the prime of Iron King happened long before Vendrick's rule, let alone our own travel! Maybe Old Knights used to be very different, since they're only so brittle because they existed for way too long. And apparently got verdigris (when bronze becomes green over time)
The bronze Gargoyles from Dark Souls 1 that guard the first Bell might have been another instance of artificial life forms that were attributed to Flann! Internal logic of the setting works well with their designs too.
But yeah, bronze is not iron, so Iron King still had to contribute a lot by himself of course fhfhds But whatever Flann left behind were blueprints. So, Iron King placing Old Knights as the symbols in Brume Tower was a way to honor that discovery!
It also does kind of feel similar to Nameless Blacksmith Deity who created weapons of the Gods, only Flann also smithed Creatures and not just weapons. I don't know whether the two are related? They could be, honestly! But at the same time I still feel like golden armor representing Fina's embrace might be literal and not figural, and there was just a type of Gods who remained more elemental instead of going full 'human but Big' type of Gods lol.
#dark souls#dark souls 2#flame god flann#old iron king#dark souls headcanons#dark souls reference#screenshots
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The forgotten smith god was actually the elder brother of Flame God Flann.
#dark souls#forgotten smith god#flame god flann#headcanon#if we have unseen characters you get scenery instead
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famous dark souls women, kay and vera 🧡💛
#i lov e.. them#a small bony ass and a soft godsized ass!!!#quelaag is flame god flann#so says i#quelaag#gwynevere#dark souls#art
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whats your all time favorite book? you may give me other recs too if you'd likee! 💗
I don't have an all time favourite because different books have made me lose my mind in different ways <3 but I CAN give you a breakdown based on some of my own personal categories:
Books I Would Take Into a Bunker For 9 Months (aka Absolutely No One Talk to Me)
The Brothers Karamazov, Dostoevsky
Ich und Du, Martin Buber
The Waves, Virginia Woolf
The Snake, Stig Dagerman
The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays, Albert Camus
The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
An Inventory of Losses, Judith Schalansky
Invisible Man, Ralph Ellison
We, Yevgeny Zamyatin
Books That Did That™️
Secondhand-Time, Svetlana Alexievich
We Love Glenda So Much & Other Tales, Julio Cortázar
The Memory Police, Yoko Ogawa
At Swim-Two-Birds, Flann O'Brien
Deaf Republic, Ilya Kaminsky
Tess of the d'Urbervilles, Thomas Hardy
A Thousand Splendid Suns, Khaled Mattawa
The Chaos Walking Trilogy, Patrick Ness
Ways of Seeing, John Berger
German Autumn, Stig Dagerman
A Lover's Discourse: Fragments, Roland Barthes
A Girl Is A Half-Formed Thing, Eimear McBride
Night Watch, Terry Pratchett
Wuthering Heights, Emily Bronte
Women in Love, D.H. Lawrence
Bluets, Maggie Nelson
Antigone, Jean Anouilh
They: A Sequence of Unease, Kay Dick
A Doll's House, Henrik Ibsen
The Condemned, Stig Dagerman
Books That If I Could Erase My Memory and Read Again for the First Time I Would 100% Erase My Memory and Read Again for the First Time
The God of Small Things, Arundhati Roy
Água Viva, Clarice Lispector
The Bloody Chamber & Other Stories, Angela Carter
A Moth to a Flame, Stig Dagerman
Paris, When It's Naked, Etel Adnan
Without an Alphabet, Without a Face, Saadi Youssef
A Field Guide to Getting Lost, Rebecca Solnit
One Hundred Years of Solitude, Gabriel García Marquez
View with a Grain of Sand, Wislawa Szymborska
Possession, A.S. Byatt
Four Bare Legs in a Bed: Stories, Helen Simpson
The Unbearable Lightness of Being, Milan Kundera
Not to Read: Essays, Alejandro Zambra
The Princess Bride, William Goldman
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Sunlight streams in through the tall windows lining both sides of the ballroom, here in the grand cathedral at the peak of Anor Londo. Tables joined end to end cover both walls beneath the glass, bedecked with a royal feast – perhaps the last such feast for quite some time, or even forever.
Soon, the Princess of Sunlight, Gwynevere, and her spouse the Flame God Flann, will depart. With them will likely go large portions of the remaining population, abandoning the great City of the Gods to journey westward toward the hope of greener pastures afar, another pilgrimage to follow in the footsteps of those other gods who went away so long ago.
Gwyndolin will remain behind. She will stay, as she has through every farewell over the millennia, and care for the city as no one else will, even as its streets grow emptier once more. There will not be many gods left, soon, after this latest pair leaves. Only her, and Velka, and Vamos, and Lord Nito sleeping deep below. None of the others call this city home.
For now, though, the day is joyful. The crowd gathered here celebrates, and dances, and the guests of honor are both happy to entertain with displays of flame sorcery, an art long since lost to the common folk after Izalith's collapse.
When they get a moment, the two sisters meet at the back end of the ballroom, opposite the statues and the pair of elevators that alternately carry guests to the balcony above and servants from the kitchens below. Gwynevere carries a plate of dainties, offering some to Gwyndolin. The last of that type from the kitchens, according to the waiter who delivered them personally to the goddess's hands.
So Gwyndolin takes one, gratefully, ever anxious at the thought of stepping away from the wall at her back, of letting down her guard, of being seen in this body that everyone knows is wrong. Even apart from the half dozen snakes coiling out beneath her dress, even were that no issue at all, she would hesitate to appear in public.
The treat is cake-like yet savory, with hints of citrus... and far more than a hint of immediate nausea. Gwyndolin coughs once, partway bent over, and hurries to straighten up and conceal anything that might attract the notice of other guests. But Gwynevere sees, and is concerned, and asks if something is wrong.
Something is very wrong. Gwyndolin turns her back to the party and chokes out a few words – poison, don't touch the others, she's going back to her room but don't tell anyone. Gwynevere nods, wishes her luck, says she'll dispose of the plate and meet her there.
Gwyndolin draws up a sigil in the air formed of strands of sunlight, a fusion of sorcery and miracles, and releases its power to hurl herself through space in an instant... but sick as she is, the teleport is miscast, and she appears halfway along the straight line path to her destination, stumbling on unsteady snakes into the railing overlooking a hall below.
Ahead of her is the double-helix staircase that could take her to the rooftops, but before that point a room off to the right, a small chapel of sorts tucked away beside the main hall. She ducks in there, short of breath, and hurries to the far corner across from the door where a secret passage waits. The wall slides apart, and Gwyndolin struggles up a narrow spiral staircase – difficult enough on snakes even in the best of times – to another hall above.
Gwynevere teleports in ahead of her, empty-handed, just in time to catch her as she falls. Gwyndolin tries to speak but only coughs come out, and she points to the heavy, reinforced door that marks her personal chambers.
Instead of helping her up to keep moving, Gwynevere only lays her sister down gently on the marble floor and begins casting a miracle of her own. Soothing sunlight radiates around her, enveloping both women and flooding the hall in either direction with healing rays.
The swelling in Gwyndolin's throat lessens, then clears entirely, and she manages to produce words at last. "Thank you," she says, sitting up on the hard floor beside her sister.
"Are you alright? What happened?"
"Poison," Gwyndolin repeats. "In the hors d'oeuvre plate. Something fast acting and serious, and I suspect... professional."
"An assassin?" Gwynevere looks concerned, but unconvinced. "I mean no offense, but you are more concerned with evildoers than most... Are you sure it was not simple contamination, or an allergy?"
Gwyndolin nods. "I could barely cast my most practiced spell. This would have killed a human in seconds, and probably could have killed one of us if left untreated. Particularly if the strongest healer in the land were the one afflicted."
Gwynevere narrows her eyes. "What do you mean? You're not a healer. And who would try to kill you anyway?"
"It would not be the first such attempt on my life. But you are overlooking the obvious, dear sister. You told me just before, that the platter was delivered personally, with intent, and the story told was that the last should be yours as an honor. You then carried the malignant cakes to share, and that is how I came to be poisoned."
Finally, it clicks. "You don't think–"
Gwyndolin meets her sister's eyes and nods. "I was not the target. Someone at your farewell banquet has tried to assassinate you."
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i feel like the quadrapedal mimicz in ds2 & profaned capital are probably from a distinct second wave ov Godz fucking around & getting TFed into treasure chest from the biped mimicz ov ds1 & 3. Yeah u kno flame god flann? hez just that mimic in profaned capital who drops two rusted gold coinz now. Feel old yet?
ds1z lore abt the mimicz being a clan ov ancient godz who got turned into their current form az a punishment for their greed getz exponentially funnier with each sequel. like ok in ds1 therez just 9 ov em in placez related to the godz. pretty explicable. then ds2 & 3 introduce dozenz more scattered to the most random ass cornerz ov the globe & itz like. damn these bitchez got around
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Some dark souls doodles I’ve been working on.
#dark souls 3#dark souls fanart#siegward#ornstein#nameless king#lothric#lorian#rosaria#flame god flann#sketch#doodles#yes that's an onion knight with dumplings
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-Profaned-Flame God Flann-
One of the best things in Dark Souls is how much mystery surrounds it, so sometimes its fun just to through to relatively underused concepts together for something cool.
The twisted flame burns bright in the old waxy god.
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AT LAST! After a looooooong month, I FINALLY managed to complete “Deities of Dark Souls Part 2″. Sequel to my first image, and done in the same style, but modified slightly.
Part 1
WARNING! Long post below.
Now, onto the gods themselves. These gods are the less famous deities, and have less images to represent them (except for Zandroe and Zinder, they have rings dedicated to them), so thinking of suitable designs for them was tough, but I tried my best, by instead using bits and pieces of lore that they could have a hand in. From top to bottom, left to right, are:
Flame God Flann: Gwynevere’s husband, and the titular flame god. With how important the First Flame is to the lore, and the importance of fire as a whole during the Age of Gods, I always wondered why he didn’t take up a bigger role besides being just background flavor for Gwynevere’s lore.
For his design, pretty simple really, I literally just mixed Laurentius’ gettup with that of the Desert Sorceresses of Dark Souls II! xD He’s an arrogant, vainglorious dude who has a hawt bawd and knows it... But also a master pyromancer, and perhaps was one of the first gods to actively spread pyromancy beyond the realm of Anor Londo
Funilly enough, he also has some bits of Izalith in him, design wise.
Old McLoyf, God of Drink and Medicine: This guy was fun! It was difficult to discern how he liked based on the coin, but I could tell he had a beard and hair. Aside from that? Nothing, and this is where the FUN happened.
So for my design, I thought he’d be neat if he’s the patron of both Catarina of DS and DSIII AND the Gyrm of DSII. Like our favorite NPCs from Catarina and Gavlan, he’s a jovial and boisterous god full of mirth, and an avid drinker.
Similar to the function of Siegbrau, he heals himself by... Drinking! And he heals others by offering drink as well, though he too dabbles in traditional medicine as well.
The Nameless Smith God: The basis of this guy is pretty easy, as the Prowling demons were born from the Titanite slabs that scattered once the guy died.
For his design, he is literally made of Titanite, with a gigantic slab lodged into his chest, perhaps actually growing out of his body, and like his spawn, he has two massive “wings” growing out of his back.
For his general outfit, his helmet was inspired by the Gyrm, specifically Gavlan. I imagined that, since he IS the smith god of DS, other cultures that focus on smithing, like the Gyrm do, venerated him in some way even after he kicked the bucket.
Kremmel, God of Struggle: Essentially Kirk before Kirk, his design was inspired by how The Ring of Thorns looked suspiciously like something Kirk would wear. In fact, you get it by killing Pate, and you get better versions of it by constantly invading others in-game. Much like how Kirk invades you in the first game. (Or you can just buy a +1 version from grave warden Agdayne)
For Kremmel, life sucks, with his body being so beaten up, his armor worn and torn and even melted into his skin in some areas during the war against the dragons. He is also however, ridiculously tough and strong.
Galib, God of Disease: The First Fenito (hence his bluish skin), instead of watching the Undead Crypt however, he instead offered himself to spread the Gravelord’s “gifts” by any means necessary. He wears a modified version of the Leydia witches garb, with more tapestry and a “fur” coat that evokes Nito himself.
I thought it’d be a great idea to connect him with Nito, since the Gravelord himself was responsible for the “Miasma of Death and Disease” upon the dragons, it would make sense some being would take the “disease” part and spread more death once Nito took a nap in his neat little tomb.
Since the Leydia Witches were said to be manipulating disease (and cures), I also imagine that, unlike the Gravelord, he is able to cure diseases and ailments. In the end however, he is still loyal to the cause of “The First One to Give us Death”
The Covetous Serpents: One of the most interesting lore tidbits from both rings in Dark Souls III was this:
A silver ring depicting a snake that could have been, but never was, a dragon. Fallen foes yield more souls.
Snakes are known as creatures of great avarice, devouring prey even larger than themselves by swallowing them whole.
If one's shackles are cause for discontent, perhaps it is time for some old-fashioned greed.
When combining with the lore of DSII where they were venerated as gods, it now makes sense why Zandroe and Zinder are gods of greed and desire respectively. They’re self aware that they can never be dragons, but despised the fact they couldn’t. They would always want to be real deal dragons, and all things associated with it.
And now for the snakes themselves.
Zandroe, God of Greed: Based off the Covetous Silver Serpent Ring, he’s fashioned after a Cobra. Whatever he wants, he only needs to bite once, and takes the possessions of the fallen once they’re dead.
Zinder, God of Desire: Based of the Covetous Gold Serpent Ring, he’s fashioned after a Python; Whatever he wants, he takes it by brute, crushing force.
#dark souls#dark souls ii#dark souls iii#dark souls 2#dark souls 3#deities#gods#ds#ds1#ds2#ds3#flame god flann#flann#nameless smith god#smith#blacksmith#titanite#old man mcloyf#mcloyf#kremmel#god of struggle#flame god#galib#god of disease#soulsborne#soulslore#lore#zandroe#god of greed#zinder
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Ring of the Sun Princess
This ring is granted to those who enter a Covenant with Gwynevere, daughter of Lord Gywn and the Princess of Sunlight. This slightly warm ring boosts the synergy of miracles.
The Princess of Sunlight Gwynevere left Anor Londo along many other deities, and later became wife to Flame God Flann.
#dark souls#soulsborne#gwynevere#gwyn#anor londo#sunlight#princess guard#covenant reward#faith#ring#miracle synergy#gods#snuggly trade#warm#is there any point in tagging flame god flann?#flame god flann#does flann crop up absolutely anywhere else in the entire series? I'd love to know!#ring of the sun princess
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Was trying to doodle concept of Nito's (EX) wife! Since she is a Goddess of Water (proofs: ( x )), I wanted to make her a driad rather than 'human but BIG' type of God! (I believe Flann is a driad too, as God of Flame)
I will probably stick with regular tentacle "hair" rather than jellyfish tail ones, but I still wanted to share both variants!
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Flame God Flann would wear a carved pumpkin on his head for some autumn celebrations, lighting it up from the inside with his flame god powers. It started as a way for Flann to try and hide his real identity from the Gravelord and his servants, but it soon became a beloved tradition.
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I should have added this to my last post, but —
In my iteration, Priscilla the Crossbreed is Gwynevere’s firstborn.
The Japanese description of her soul hints at her parentage, describing her as ‘the white half-dragon that is an illegitimate child.’ It is widely accepted that Seath the Scaleless is her father. Seath was also known to abduct, experiment on, and abuse Gwynevere’s handmaidens. Gwynevere herself falls foul of him. Her pregnancy – out of wedlock – was kept hidden.
When Priscilla was born, she was taken from her mother and secreted away. Because of her divine blood and connection to the royal family, she was not killed outright but instead hidden in the Painted World of Ariamis. Either Lord Gwyn was not aware, and the cover-up was orchestrated by some other authority figure in Gwynevere’s life, or he was aware and chose not to punish Seath. Which is plausible, given the vital role Seath played in the War of Fire.
As shameful as this incident was, it proved Gwynevere’s ability to carry and bear children. As a princess, her fertility was where her value lay – this was impressed on her from pubescence. It was after the birth of Priscilla that Gwynevere was betrothed to Flame God Flann and ultimately sent abroad to wed him.
Imagine her horror when she later married King Oceiros, and witnessed his efforts to ascend to dragonhood. By him, Gwynevere would bear another doomed, crossbreed child – Ocelotte.
#basically the children i'm considering gwynevere's are: priscilla / gertrude / the dancer / lorian / lothric / ocelotte#i haven't decided if she had other unnamed children with flann or if their union didn't produce any heirs#either way she is mother of many#both during her time as gwynevere and later when she is imprisoned in the cathedral#◈ — headcanon; gwynevere / rosaria#cw: sa
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So, Gwynevere has had a lot of children in Dark Souls 3 mentioned in the game.
There is Lorian and Lothric, the Twin Princes, Gertrude, the Heavenly Daughter, and Ocelotte, the Child of Dragons.
There is also the possibility of Rosaria, the Mother of Rebirth, being related to Gwynevere, since Rosaria's soul can be transposed into Bountiful Sunlight, which is a miracle related to Gwynevere. There's the Dancer of the Boreal Valley, who is said to be a child of the Royal family, and who's soul can be transposed into Soothing Sunlight, which is also a miracle related to Gwynevere.
Then, there's also the possibility that Priscilla, the half-breed of an ancient dragon and a goddess, can also be a child of Gwynevere, since it's been heavily speculated that Gwynevere was the mother of Priscilla, but it's just speculation.
#dark souls 3#dark souls#Soulsborne#gwynevere princess of sunlight#you go girl#i support your hoeing life#but nah#she is the goddess of bounty and fertility#it's not far off that she'd be making kids left and right#but she did leave Flann the Flame God for Oceiros who was a SCALIE
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There have been two great loves in Gwynevere’s life.
The second of these is Flann, the God of Flames, a friend from her youth who was willing to follow her out of Anor Londo and support her. Whatever might become of the world, however Gwynevere might value her mission to uphold her father’s legacy over him, they had one another for so long that it turned to love. Their centuries long affair produced Gwynevere’s second daughter, Gertrude, a crimson-haired firebrand who inherited the visions that had so endeared Gwynevere’s own mother to the royal courts of the divine empire.
The first of these loves, however, is one that has never been written about in the records of gods and their kin.
The two met during the Ancient Days, when the divine did battle with the ageless dragons that once ruled the world. He was only a soldier in that time, she only a healer and figurehead to the resistance. Even then, there was a spark, stolen trysts and simple intrigues to keep her father ignorant to the fact. Once he was knighted, however, he made every effort to end the affair, to spare them both the struggle of it. Instead, they found themselves unable to be parted, and carried on a years long romance in secrecy. In time, several of their closest companions came to learn of their love, his fellow knights advising him to spare the princess her honor, her siblings ever on the lookout for their father so the pair might have a measure of time together.
He was the greatest loss Gwynevere ever knew. First, she lost him to his own madness, how his mind was slowly consumed by the Darkness he sought to eradicate. When the Abyss claimed his body as well, in doomed Oolacile, her knight left Gwynevere with nothing but heartache and a child who would never know their father. It was after this that she had to confess to Gwyn what had happened between she and his most beloved knight, though she would have taken any shame to finally claim the man she loved openly. For his part, the old king seemed to accept it, and give his daughter room to grieve -- he even doted upon the resultant child as the eldest of his grandchildren, and the only he would ever see before he went to the Flame.
Lydia would grow up always knowing her father was a hero, a great man with many monuments and songs to detail his fame in life. Despite this, Flann would always be her dad, such as it is, having been the man to raise and love her as a daughter. It’s a pity, perhaps, that Lydia never knew her father’s tragedy as well as those of his generation. It might have saved her from following his bloody trail, becoming another broken puppet of dark forces prior to the start of the third game.
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Rosaria: Our Lady, Holy Mother
So, I've been replaying Dark Souls 3 and during so, I've honestly been realizing way more about some characters and really indulging in them. One of them is Rosaria, Mother of Rebirth.
Warning: Spoilers for Dark Souls 3 for the ENTIRE post below!
In Dark Souls 3, there's a particularly interesting character named Rosaria. She leads a covenant called "Rosaria's Fingers" which are directly opposed to the Way of Blue and Blades of the Darkmoon. Which leads us to our first major point; Who is Rosaria and why does she hate the Gods?
At first glance at her character, Rosaria is really dark. As in literally dark, her black clothes, black hair... etc. Opposed to the Gods who are usually represented by White or Divine Colors(See Gwyn's Family) and I'm not sure if it's really intentional but it is something that is obvious. Next, what exactly does Rosaria represent or what is her place in the Dark Souls world? For this, we must look at a Japanese Myth.
The Story of Izanami(伊弉冉尊) and Izanagi(イザナギ) is the basic creation Myth for Japan. They were both the first Man and Woman, they created the first land. They did so with a Spear that was gifted to them and then created the Great Sea. They birthed two children, Hiruko(蛭子) and Awashima(粟島), Hiruko in particular meaning "Leech Child". After giving birth to Kaga-tsuchi(火之迦具���, Literally "Shrine of Flame"), Izanami dies and is sent to the Underworld, becoming the Goddess of Death. Izanagi comes to look for her and while going there, Izanami tells Izanagi not to look at her. However, he does anyways revealing the Underworld has permanently obstructed her form. This terrified Izanagi and he left her in the Underworld. After this, Izanami proclaimed she would kill one thousand people a day but Izanagi said he would father a thousand and five hundred more a day. They were officially divorced in this event.
As we can tell, there are a lot of interesting things we can gather once we connect Izanami to Rosaria. And you might be asking... can we even do that? Well, yes. Rosaria is connected to divinity in some way. Only large people are seen to be deific and once we get Rosaria's Soul(I'll get to that later) we can acquire Gwynevere's Miracles meaning even if she wasn't a god, she was heavily connected to the Gods in such a way she knew and or used these Miracles. It is also worth mentioning that Leonhard calls her a Goddess, but that could be due to his adoration. The other connection is that in some way, Rosaria was betrayed by the Gods so badly she now garners followers in the hopes they will kill members of Royal Covenants and steal something taken from her, tongues. Another connection is Hiruko and the Slug in Rosaria's lap, Hiruko was considered inadequate as a Child and deformed, as you can tell the creature that lays on Rosaria is definitely a deformed creature, similar to the Man Grubs, possibly her Child as it is the biggest(this has no evidence what-so-ever). The last connection is also something pretty interesting; The Deep and the concept of "Kegare(穢れ)".
This leads into a lot, so be wary of this part if you want to read it. So, in Shintoism, water is a very important part of the entire thing. Along with this is the concept of purity through flowing water or "Harae(祓)". Flowing things, especially water, is clear and clean unlike still water which collects grime and impurities. Of course, you want to be clean, right? Well, this is the concept. Flow is good, stagnation is bad. While we are stagnant, whether spiritually or physically, we collect impurities and do not really do anything. You may ask... How does this relate to Rosaria, specifically the connection of her and Izanami? Well, let's look at the place she's at. I don't even mean her room but the entire location. The Cathedral of the Deep is full of Kegare, absolutely full of it. All of the water is disgusting and muddy and mucky, poison comes out of the faucets and the foundation of the Cathedral is sinking. The entirety of the Deep is also just Kegare, but I plan on making a post just on that. So, yes, Rosaria is surrounded by Kegare and so was Izanami. The Underworld filled her with impurities and deformed her entire body. Rosaria seems to be very dirty herself, in her hair is slime and she lacks a tongue, which was stolen from her. Both Women are considered deformed and dirty and are surrounded by stagnation. Rosaria herself does not move and only sits in her Chamber, same with Izanami only staying in the Underworld, stagnating, in a way. Now, this is not extremely high evidence but it is an interesting connection that could explain Rosaria's role and some of her inspiration.
Next is another connection but this time it's in the Universe. This one is quite obvious if you've played Dark Souls 1 and this is Rosaria and Anastacia. Both scenarios play out very similarly. Their Souls are stolen by Men who bring their Souls to Anor Londo but for different reasons. Lautrec's is actually never stated and thusly is unrelated. But Leonhard's is because he wishes for no one else to have her. Claiming that you and most likely everyone else will just steal it too. Why they have similar plotlines, I have no idea and it doesn't really make sense. Though, it is possible that Rosaria is a Firekeeper of some sort as she can Respec(reset skill points) the Player Character and the only other Character's in the series who can do that are Firekeepers. However, her Soul doesn't look like a Firekeeper's(reference below)
(Rosariaiis's Soul)
(Fire Keeper Soul)
Admittedly, it does look like a bit of Humanity is swirling in her Soul, compared to others but, who knows. She probably is a Firekeeper but we'll probably never get an answer on that. And by the end, Anastasia does have her tongue back but for some reason Rosaria does not and it is absolutely not clear why this is the case.
Next, let's talk about the bit of lore she does have. It's said that her tongue was stolen from her First Born and that could be a lot of people. First off, it does imply more Children and that does fit with something later. So, who is this first Child? Well, most signs point to Aldrich, whose Bodily slime is actually near the doors of Rosaria's Chamber, this proves not a lot but given the fact Aldrich is a cannibal, he definitely did something to her whether or not it be he stole her tongue. But of course, why wouldn't he eat all of her? It's kind of confusing and this part of the lore is extremely lackluster and even if you think about it you can't get anywhere.
Next, let's talk about her Covenant, but before we do that let's ask another question. Is Rosaria someone we have seen before? Well, if you're telling yourself "Hm, she sounds like she could definitely be Gwynevere" you'd be right. Not that she is Gwynevere confirmed but more signs point to yes than no... Let's go over the evidence:
Is a Goddess
Connections to Miracles about Gwynevere
Connections to the Old Gods in some form
Has Children(Amazing point, I know)
Have Magical Abilities
GNow, I know this isn't much but all together it is pretty telling evidence that something is afoot with the connections. Your first thought of it being against is "Oh, well yes it's possible but isn't Gwynevere like 40 feet tall" and well, no, not really. Even in DS1 this can be debunked in the same room(sorta). We all know Gwynevere is an illusion, so how do we know her real size? Well, in the Ornstein and Smough Boss Room we see these statues .
As we can see, Gwynevere is almost as tall as the Gwyn statue which is basically built to scale. Presumably, anyways. And as we can see, Gwynevere is not as big but she is pretty tall. Now, let's compare it to Rosaria(with Player scale too):
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As we can see, this height is actually plausible. Rosaria isn't actually that much taller or bigger. Her legs are long and torso about the same size. The next point against it though is the names... Rosaria is obviously not the same as Gwynevere. But, assuming that if you're running away from your family, you'd change your name too. And the Miracle she gives with her Soul, Bountiful Sunlight, which mentions Gwynevere's occupation as a Mother and Wife. This obviously fits in with Rosaria's mentioned child and children, assumedly. But, it's never said that she was married. But, Gwynevere is married, to the God, Flann. They could be hinting at the fact that either Rosaria is Gwynevere's daughter or her, herself.
Another suspect of who she could be is the Queen of Lothric. We know the Queen left after her Husband became mad with the power of the Dragon. There is also evidence for this. Gertrude, the Heavenly Daughter, is said to be the Daughter of the Queen, Rosaria is surrounded by Man-Grubs that are reborn via her and there is actually a Man-Grub near Gertrude's cage. The Queen is said to have several Heavenly Children and the Queen is also compared to a Goddess of Fertility and Bounty(Gwynevere). Rosaria is considered a Goddess and the Queen was worshipped as a Goddess for sure. Another Child of the Queen is the Dancer of the Boreal Valley, how do we know this? Well, the Dancer's Soul gives another of Gwynevere's Miracles, Soothing Sunlight which explicitly states the Dancer is a member of the Old Royal Family, at least for the most part as in it's in her tree. So, how does this connect back the the Queen and Rosaria? Well, it's very much told this way with Miracles the Queen is the Daughter of Gwynevere, who was also her Maiden and carried on the stories of her Mother to her Children. This does make the most sense in comparison to her actually being Gwynevere, but, options. Rosaria's tongue though is still a mystery, I have no idea if her firstborn(presumably Lorian or Aldrich but... that has no evidence) stole her tongue and if that's the case, why. It could just be apart of the hellscape that is Dark Souls 3's lore.
So let's talk about the covenant, Rosaria's Fingers. As to why they are called as such, I am actually not sure and it honestly seems to hold no important to what I see. The member's of this Covenant have a prefix regarding names of specific finger's, somewhat. Yellowfinger is not really a finger. There's also the symbol for the covenant which is actually the Papal Cross of the Christian Religion and is the Emblem of the Pope, there is actually a Pope in Dark Souls 3 in the form of Sulyvahn but there seems to be no connection other than Aldrich being connected to Sulyvahn and that's really it. Rosaria's Fingers collect the tongues of their foes, which are the Way of Blue and Blades of the Darkmoon, two covenants that are explicitly connected to the Old Gods. Obviously, this tells us that Rosaria not only hates the Old Gods but it's possibly they are the ones that stole her tongue from her. Meaning her firstborn is most likely connected to the Old Gods, but as given before, that was obvious. It is either that or the Old Gods have disrupted her in some other way. In other aspects of the Covenant, Rosaria gives the option of Rebirth(or Respec'ing) which basically lets someone reallocate their skills, what implications this has in the universe is completely unknown and is probably just a way to make yourself stronger. You can rebirth yourself in-universe until you become a Man-Grub, and it's basically literally what the name implies. But the descriptions imply it might not be that simple. Some of them wield staffs that cast holy spear spells to protect Rosaria. Why she can do this is not clear, nor why it happens is not clear either. It doesn't seem that she hates her subjects or anything of the sort, so it could just be a curse she has given her abilities.
Rosaria doesn't really have a lot to her character, along with that she barely has lore, unfortunately and all that can be gathered aside from the only clearly stated things is guesswork and it's not that much fun. The only cut things that have come from her is a cut Boss Track related to her(interesting to note this track IS similar to the Dancer's who is interestingly not a Boss at first), whether she was the boss or not, is not clear.
Unfortunately, this seems to be all that Rosaria has to her but if you know anything else or want to correct some information for me please do so! I'll gladly edit something things and I might add more. My next post is hopefully going to be the Angelic Faith of Lothric and the Primordial Serpents.
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