#everyone is so fucking shippable it’s insane
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joanthangroff · 2 years ago
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I started rewatching Shadowhunters and it’s SO easy to become unhinged about it again
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dual-fantasy · 1 year ago
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made a full circle to gen1posting..... i love duncan with my heart and soul but in a way nobody else does. hes awful and he sucks but thats what makes me like him. he dated mal in juvie. him and trent were a thing for like . a week . maybe less then a week . him and alejandro have dated and broken up within the same day at least 8 times. he is actually the boyfailure ever. i think after all stars he left courtney alone to go pursue guys. they left it on a good note they apologized to each other. eventually. he never actually settles down with anyone . at least for a while . the list of people hes dated for less then a week is Expansive . something ive seen Absolutely nobody considering is duncan and justin(dustin ?????) they are so real to me. they do not like each other actually they hate each other but in an absolutely romantic way. they walked so scike could run. i appreciate a lot of duncan ships actually. dunhar is up there with dustin(??) but slightly below it cause of the fandoms interpretation of them. harold is taller then duncan take that information in stride. they are so real to me though they play videogames together they are the gross not at all romantic relationship i need. one i have seen literally NOBODY ever talk about is duncan and owen they are so real. and pretty healthy considering it includes duncan. ..dowen ???? SWEEP!!!!! idk i think people just need to slap duncan and random men together until something sticks more. hes insanely shippable in a surprising way. ive been forgetting to sign off ghhh. GRAVE DOG OUT!!!!!!!
REAL YEAH. I never really cared for Duncan first watch but when I really thought about it he's one of the most entertaining characters. he's literally the worst ever. his entire family is police and he still downright refuses to follow the law. everyone exaggerates how terrible he is. he's literally just a bitch he isn't any worse than anyone else. he keeps a list (habit he picked up from Courtney) of people he dates for less than a week. it is genuinely a mile long. Alejandro is on the list at least 40 times, every single man is listed multiple times.
also Dustin is real as fuck. like genuinely you're such a genius. personally I'm a fan of djuncan because they drive me insane but Dustin is sooo good. also it has a really good ship name. all of his ships are pretty good tbh. you're such a genius and so real
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nikomedes · 1 year ago
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the last time i engaged hard with fandoms, like. i was baffled and appalled by how getting that many people fixated on one thing spawns dogshit takes, fanon, and trends at a rate that boiled u like a frog if u checked tags every day but was objectively insane from the outside. its so fast. the less of a media to obsess over, the worse it gets. two shippable white dudes? fucking calamity. and yeah, absolutely any challenging material is either sanded off, elided, or examined in the worst faith you could imagine. both experiences started euphoric as i got social engagement that lit up my dopamine-seeking brain like christmas, and then law of large numbers eventually made it so there was no amount of cool mutuals or number go up to outweigh the braindead posting.
all this to say there are maybe 3 people on earth i want to see bg posting from and everyone else i am holding at gunpoint. no trigger discipline. they say anything lacking basic critical thinking about a dnd character and whatever happens, happens
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dearemma · 2 years ago
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any other characters you ship christine with ??
okay so it is easier for me to say who i don't ship her with (i find her very shippable!) and that is una and m'benga*.
una... here is the thing, i did not care much for una at first (during snw and short treks) but because a close friend of mine loves her, i ended up paying attention to her and falling in love with her. during disco, the short treks and the cage (majel my angel) una is intriguing, mysterious, and sexy. she looks like she can fuck you up, correct your grammar and not mess up her hair-do while she does it. snw una is... a wet block of concrete to me. which is insane cause... rebecca romjin?? i love her. i am obsessed with the librarians and i loved eve, but she is so... meh to me on snw that i literally can't picture her and christine. though, i do love the idea of them as platonic friends who become super close after all the bullshit of season one -- una opening up to christine cause she already knows everything so she becomes her confidant.
now, with m'benga, my thing is, in an interview, babs and jess described their relationship as familial and that intrigued me a lot. i think it could be an insanely interesting perspective to explore their relationship from. but... as i was answering this, and inspired by jess and babs's wonderful chemistry during 2.01... i have to amend that. between receiving this ask in the kitchen and going up the stairs to my bedroom i came up with an entire emma au for them. like, m'benga and christine as old friends who are incredibly close, who know each other better than anyone else. m'benga who sees her doing stupid things and tries to steer her to a better path, sees her fall in love with undeserving guys and girls and starts feeling something inside his chest but he keeps it inside?? all the longing, the pining, and then when he pulls away christine realizes what has been in front of her during this entire time?? so yeah, i think i ship them now.
but god, everyone else yeah. i did not ship her and pike, but i started reading (and still need to finish!!) @curator-on-ao3 fic about christine helping him a few years after his accident and it just took my breath away. the possibilities of their dynamic?? i could go with it.
uhura, la'an, spock... all of them are christine's soulmates.
i am a firm believer of erica and christine as fuckbuddies (who may or may not catch feelings and suffer cause they believe the other one doesn't see them the same way)
also, as a bonus, a friend of mine headcanons sam kirk as poly, and we chatted about him and christine ending up together and honestly?? they could be very sweet, i liked it. (also christine losing another lover?? the angst??)
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8531nimkook · 2 years ago
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Would love to hear you non delulu take on the small moments actually that made me go ding ding ding about them. Like when hobi asked jimin why he was doing his bday live in Jk's studio and why jimin couldn't answer and the reaction of all 3. Or the "Jk is in charge of clothes too" and Jimin's reaction. Or the thirstrap and the hicky. (I still think they had/have something going I just love to hear more opinions on it).
ok disclaimer before I start, this is all just for fun!
Non delulu explanations:
bday live in jk's studio: that room looks like a super plain room with no personalisation tbh (when compared to rapline studios), so when hobi said that it was jk's studio, it could be that thats the room jk uses to record when he's in the office building, not like a "plaque on the door" type of jungkook studio. He is a homebody and probably has a more sophisticated setup in his own home, who knows. so it could be that there are like 3-4 rooms like that for vocal line members and jk just happens to use this one a lot?? then jimin too uses one of these rooms and today he happens to pick the one jk uses a lot.
(To be fair, now that ive seen jk's apartment, it looks like he's a minimalist. so that might as well be his actual studio.)
With the clothes comment, (tbvh I dont really remember this moment clearly) i have to reach harder and think about things that two platonic superstar bros would do. 🤔 They both are from the same world of fame and the way they look matters so I assume they talk about clothes sometimes? Especially during public schedules like airport appearances. Maybe they get into disagreements about what is "cool" and "in" and maybe in those instances, jk wins the argument? Or jm ends up listening to jk's opinions, kinda like admitting he's got the better sense if style. Maybe hobi is alluding to some kind of inside joke like that.
now anon, i have to remind you that no matter which way we look at it, giving an explanation for any isolated thing they do will involve some serious filling in the blanks on my part because they give us what they give us hehe.
So for the birthday thirsttrap... jk was feeling himself that day, his hair had grown to a length that was just right and he'd gotten a new pair of glasses that looked just *chefs kiss* on him and wanted to show it off?? Then he remembered that it was his bro's birthday. What better opportunity to make armys happy and do his due diligence to a fellow member on his birthday! (Just make sure to call jm bro so everyone knows that its armys he is thirst trapping.)
Damn hickeygate right off the bat huh?
This one... honestly this one stumps me. Because normally, if one ends up with such an incriminating mark on their neck, there are fifty other options that would work better and be considered wiser than the one jikook chose. To actually point out and address it to their coworkers like that, with cameras around? Even the staff were stumped. Use makeup, call it an insect bite, or just ask the staff to not air the footage, anything. But instead, we get full coverage on the fucking hickey. Once from jm and then again from jk. And they air it. I know this is supposed to be a non delulu explanation, but the best I can come up with is that, jikook were fucking with us. They were fucking with us and laughing about it behind the scenes. They know that we like to find shippable moments and decided, we'll give them a moment that's so fucking bizarre, that they won't know what to think. Its genius because they know that our brains will definitely go there when we see the hickcey but there's NOTHING we can do about it. Bet they enjoyed every second, absolute menaces.
PHEW!! that was proper brain excersise lol! I agree with you about the small moments. My delulu feelings about any of these individual moments are not that dramatic tbh. (except hickegate. They are insane for that one.) But evvverything compounded just becomes too much to ignore. Its always them at the crime scene yk? And they are WILD sometimes hehe.
Thanks for the ask!! This was fun 💜
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sea-salted-wolverine · 11 months ago
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Chilchuck is insane. That's why.
Everyone else has varying levels of autism and trauma and bad decisions but Chilchuck specifically is not on some valiant quest, he's having a midlife crisis. Even the damn cat has more of a goal than he does. Izutsumi wants to un-beastify herself or failing that get revenge on the dude who beastify-ed her in the first place. Chilchuck is working towards retirement.
It is unlikely that any of us will meet somebody who's on a desperate quest to save their sister from a dragon or a chef forced into ambiguous survival cannibalism. You probably already know a grumpy dude with a bleak family life who takes a lot of pride in his work cause it's all he's got left.
If I were to identify the hallmarks of a tumblr sexy man outside the surface level traits (skinny, white, shippable, ect) I would have to call it the balance between competence and delinquency. It appeals to a user base populated by wierd lil fuck ups. So you're right, Senshi is considered sexy by tumblr but he is not a tumblr sexyman because he is simply not pathetic enough to balance out how good he is at everything else (cook, vegetable gardener, ecologist, warrior, emotional anchor, catdad, diplomat, you get the picture)
Chilchuck on the other hand. The dude is a mess. Yes, he did knife a dragon in the eyeball without losing any of his limbs. Congratulations, everyone else did worse. He then has to be threatened into having an honest conversation with someone he cares about. These two things are less than 24 hours apart. He is the only one there with any common sense or a normal sense of self-preservation and it doesn't help him at all.
Which is part of the core appeal of the tumblr sexyman.
Everyone wants to talk about how Senshi is a tumblr sexyman but...Senshi is actually attractive. Like even aside from the fact that he's pretty good-looking he's a nice, sweet guy and he can cook and loves doing it. He's a perfectly eligible candidate for marriage, which kind of goes against the spirit of a tumblr sexyman.
Chilchuck, however? Chilchuck is a tumblr sexyman. What the fuck do you people see in him
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sarahlizziewrites · 1 day ago
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Last year's poll - REBOOTED
Please vote in this one before checking the results to the last one - I want this to be as unspoiled as possible! I've even randomized the options.
Last year's poll was fascinating. Forcing everyone to pick their own MOST IMPORTANT aspect of a highly shippable fictional relationship made for some really interesting discourse about what makes Tumblr go crazy for a fictional ship.
My own definitions/interpretations below cut:
Chemistry: Banter. These people get on so well it'd be a crime if they didn't hook up. They are basically already fucking with their words. Sometimes couples who had so much chemistry that they rewrote the show. Think Mulder/Scully, Leslie/Ben from Parks & Rec
Attraction: these characters are unreasonably hot for each other, to the point where they ignore all sense
Narrative symmetry: covers everything from being narrative foils, contrasting archetypes (e.g. grumpy/sunshine), whenever there are PARALLELS - e.g. BlackBonnet, Ineffable Husbands, Gelphie
Obsession/devotion: They're insane about each other. Enemies-to-lovers, friends-to-lovers, I'd-go-the-ends-of-the-earth-for-you, I'd-die-for-you. Think Wuthering Heights, Jayvik, 'you're the bane of my existence and the object of all my desires' etc.
Tragedy: the love story is beautiful because you know it has to end. The world will be cruel to you but you fell in love anyway. This one is Orpheus/Eurydice in Hadestown. (Also, the potential for this kind of tragedy - the threat of a happy ending ripped away)
Something forbidden: we're not allowed to be together/we have to be together despite the odds/our families would never approve - e.g. First Prince
Fate: star-crossed lovers, soulmates, destined to be together, exes who find they need each other. "I'm the one who gripped you tight and raised you from perdition"
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our-reality · 2 years ago
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ok if i don’t ask i’m going to go insane forever. GRABS YOU . TELL ME ABOUT THESE GAY LITTLE OCS
UAAHWBABSNENSBFNSNGBDNDBFMSDBRB FUCK OKAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
might throw up forever trying to formulate this in a. coherent way but I'LL TRY !!!!!!!!!!
ok uhehdhrjtkg i currently have 7 named ocs, those being ruby, java, python, swift, c+, vysel, and requiem. yes ik the first five are named after programming languages it doesn't mean anything though HEJSBRJSJFJDKGNG uh. i will try to be brief with them because i could honestly sit here forever talking about them and i actually wanna answer this ask so. L
uuhhshdhdhb first up is ruby!!!! she's like. the main character. along with java :3 she's very very sweet and makes friends w pretty much anyone (in fact 2 of her 3 best friends at the moment are people she literally found on the street and was like you. me. friends. NOW) she cares so much and she has so much compassion but she wears her heart out on her sleeve all the time and she. I LOVE HER SO MUCH SHE'S EVERYTHING TO MEEEEEEEE
and w her is java !! java's like. the co-main character and she's very lowkey, esp next to ruby LOL she's also ever so slightly bitchy and blunt sometimes but i promise it's the autism and the Troubled Childhood you gotta believe me . she is also very gay for women and is absolutely pining over ruby <333333 (they get together by the end though so it's okay LOVE WINS 🎉🎉🎉)
uhhhhhh next is python and he's an asshole forever . but real talk it's the assigned funnyman of the group but in the condescending n annoying way but IT'S A FACADE he actually cares so much about its friends forever and can be mature and wise when he needs to but it BURIES its FEELINGS in SARCASM!!!!!!!! (and maybe violence) also he's 8'3" cuz suprise it was a god at one point who forfeited its god powers to be a human . that's also why his eyes n teeth r bright yellow and he has strange markings everywhere lol oops
and next is swift !!!!!! sky's the dogsitter of the entire universe good for them LMAO she's still a god and used to be work partners/best friends w python before he fucking Left but let's not worry about that <333333 anyways she's very calm and elegant and they always put the interests of others before skyself whcih . uh . can be a good or bad trait depending on how you look at it but sky's trying SO HARD leave them alone . also they like to be alone a lot and they would play the flute and read books if skies role in the universe allowed them to have Hobbies
next is c+!! that's not his actual name i promise it's a nickname because he doesn't like ppl knowing his actual name . he's definitely the least plot relevant of the seven but he's still so silly 2 me <3 he's that character trope of a guy who's somehow done Everything and worked Every Job Ever but can't hold down any of them so he just pulls random anecdotes about his internship at NASA out his ass and no one believes him (least of all his good buddy java) but he also has a lot going on under the surface . which is preddy neat :3c
then there's vysel. i hate him so much. blond hair blue eyes son of a bitch . he's a former swing turned alt rock artist who got popular for being hot and shippable i guess . also he's a reanimated corpse piloted by evil spirits but shhhh no one knows that (though it would probably add to his sex appeal if ppl did know . so.) he's like the biggest bitch forever and ever he is very celebritycore mentally i'm ripping him apart with my teeth . he uses his visual illusion powers TO GIVE HIMSELF BLOND HAIR BLUE EYES WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uhhh and then finally requiem !!!!!! they're very socially closed off and hates talking to like. Anyone and Everyone. including their parents i mean what . they wear fucking only black and white clothing and their hair is Also black and white and it's like bro get a better wardrobe got DAMN!!!!!!!@!@@!@@!! they don't really become relevant until the "second season" because i like to think of my own story as like. a tv show . because i'm just like that but when they do they become VERY important cuz they're kinda the whole reason ruby and java were involved in this story . the narrative plagues their being with every second that they breathe. they will never be free.
UHHH YAH THAT'S MAINLY PERSONALITY WISE because if i sat talking about their roles in the story or their relationships with each other past the surface level or god forbid their backstories i'd be here for 8 billion years so. YIPPEE ^_^
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phoebehalliwell · 3 years ago
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could I just ask you ALL the questions? (minus any you've already answered of course)
lksdajglaks hell yeah bro (i'll also be skipping the ones require like fill in the blanks)
Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?
no again like the charmed fandom isn't really like hella active so there's no like mass swarming 2 drive u mad which is nice
Have you received anon hate? What about?
like i'm sure i have but like idk about what prolly just like what i said was wrong or incorrect or something idk i usually just delete
Most disliked character(s)? Why?
i mean i never really liked cole :/ like he was fine in the beginning but i was never big on phole which was his big thing and then of course they tanked him so :|. like whatcha gonna do. i can respect the concept tho n julian does have some really good moments. i also don't like kyle bc he bugs the shit outta me but also i find him like So Fascinating like. like he's so interesting just the way he interacts with people like it's so. i personally have a headcanon that he really has trouble like connecting with people / like reading emotions or social cues which is why you know like he dropped that magic bomb with darryl and sheridan and had like no qualms about it and he has like this. it's not quite charm but he has like this. god i can't describe it but you know this kind of light playful tone with an underlying malice that he tends to present with most people upon first meeting but in like relationships he has skin in he's just like a lot more stiff i personally think there's not the same swagger that we see initially Which I Think is because again i don't think he can read people well and his early attitude is actually his impression of like. the leader of the evil kid gang he fell in when he was younger. someone who was a cool sauve leader who was afraid of nothing but people were afraid of him something that a young kyle who was like still like really afraid reeling from the trauma of the death of him parents really kind of worshipped as the perfect mask of strength and masculinity that then proceeded to really sail him through law enforcement you know so it is like his most comfortable mask but it is at the end of the day just some impression of a school bully. but of course this is just my own lil brain in canon kyle's like a bitch
Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?
jack sheridan my beloved <3 also richard montana. i literally see a lame ass male character go is anyone gonna project onto that guy n then i don't wait for an answer. but like fr. he is literally me <3
Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?
um continuing in the same vein calling it an arc might be generous but i fucking Love prue/jack so unreasonably much like. they're so fascinating. like. but beyond that i also liked paige's temp jobs which i think were kinda unpopular
Unpopular opinion about your fandom?
i mean again n/a bc this fandom's just so like chill. because the shows been off air. for like. 15 years. that being said. i do hate when people like. maliciously hate any the sisters. like you can just leave if ur having a bad time??
Unpopular opinion about the show?
i mean like. i don't think this is like. Unpopular per se. but like. it's gotta be said. like this wasn't really like a ""good"" show. like obvi we all love it but like some of it was like. really bad (lookin at u l8r season phoebe arcs 😡😡) idc tho bc i still fucking love this show. so much. but like. has 2 b said.
If you could change anything in the show, what would you change?
ah jesus like just one thing? hmm. i guess if i get only one move it'd probably be to save prue idk how that would work per se because i love paige and piper's arc in s4 but killing off prue was just So Cruel it breaks my heart.
Does not shipping something ‘popular’ mean you’re in denial and/or biased?
i'm gonna level w u i think the phrasing of this q is so funny bc hell yeah ur biased it's called like having an opinion lol. but again in regards to charmed specifically it's So Fuckin Old that being in denial really no longer applies just because. like what's done is done and cannot be undone. that being said bianca didn't die lmao she n chris r fine
What is the one thing you hate most about your fandom?
😐. idk. some people read the text different then me & i'm all like no!! u don't see it the way i see it!! what the fuck!!!! but like. at the end of the day. i really don't fuckin care?? like u can be wrong and that's fine it doesn't affect me. & ik a lot of people probably feel the same way about me like you know i'm out here like pruejack <3 piperkyle <3 paigeleo <3 pruecole <3 like. i've got bad opinions. so at the end of the day it's really whatever. i'm really grateful that this fandom is like p quite and you know not insane and vicious and cutthroat bc liek bro calm down it's literally just pictures on a screen? but yes. some people have like. Wrong Opinions. but i let it go. zen.
What is the purest ship in the fandom?
that's a good fuckin question. paigeleo? lol. in canon and ik a lot of people probz won't like this but phoebecoop.
What are your thoughts on crack ships?
depends on how u define like crackship because like i get none of them are going to happen but if a crackship is defined as something i think is funny but i would never wanna actually see happen then i have like zero of them bc i am like dead serious about like damn near all my ships idc how stupid i'm like hell yeah i wish this would have happened in canon. piperkyle my beloved <3 that would have been so fuckin funny to go canon. like. like. so fuckin funny. would have loved it lol
Popular character you hate?
prolly cole bc he is popular and i just never loved him as much as everyone else i just never really liked what they did with him there are some episodes where i'm like hell yeah (see: the good the bad and the cursed) but for the most part i really don't care that much about him and the narrative Really Wants Me To Care
Unpopular character you love?
once again. richard & jack. <3
most shippable character?
tbh i feel like piper. just because we get so many sides of her in the show like she has a lot of character growth and that's really fun to work with that. beyond that i do love paige and she's usually my go-to for gay pairing bc look at her. she's gay.
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thecloserkin · 5 years ago
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book review: C.J. Hauser, Family of Origin (2019)
Genre: the most literary of fiction
Is it the main pairing: yes
Is it canon: yes
Is it explicit: kinda
Is it endgame: no
Is it shippable: if you’re into unhealthy ships
Bottom line: i hate literary fiction. ok i don’t hate fiction obviously i just hate when it tries to be too literary?? u feel me fam
Two estranged half-siblings spend a week tying up loose ends on the remote island where their father died (it is unclear if he committed suicide). The “loose ends” are that they had sex once, as teenagers, and now it’s weird. The island is populated by cultists and nut jobs who are convinced it’s the end of days and evolution is going in reverse. I have… many equivocal feelings about this book. On the one hand there are so many lines that just peel me like an orange, lines like “There was nothing more humiliating to Elsa than her own desires” or “Elsa was never surprised when someone killed himself. She was only surprised by her own animal perseverance day after day.” Plus I think this book really gets the dynamic where they’re constantly needling each other and every interaction is doused in fifteen gallons of repressed attraction. I think this is a novel that accomplished everything it set out to do with assurance and aplomb; I’m just fundamentally uninterested in what it’s trying to do. It’s about damaged people who learn to heal but the problem is the healing is much less engaging than the hurting.
Here’s the difference between speculative fiction and literary fiction: SF/F presumes zombies are literal zombies. Instead of assuming the zombies metaphorically represent something abstract, you just take them at face value ok? You spot a time machine or a vampire, you take it at face value and you add additional layers of meaning later. Which puts me in a pickle because Family of Origin is decidedly not a genre book, so what am I supposed to think about Famous Bigshot Biologist Ian, Elsa and Nolan’s dad, and his reasons for relocating to this island? There’s no cell phone service; it is quite literally removed from civilization. When I said nut jobs I mean it’s populated by secessionists, survivalists, doomsday preppers, anti-establishment types of all stripes. And they have some kooky theories about ducks. Which Ian apparently subscribed to. If this was SF/F I would just go along with it because maybe Elsa and Nolan, having arrived on the island, will finish Ian’s life’s work and find this elusive duck and prove Charles Darwin wrong haha??? But it’s fucking literary fiction which means I have to look for SYMBOLISM gahhh kill me now.
C.J. Hauser knows what she’s doing. Her bio says she’s a creative writing instructor and you can see why. It sucks that “what she’s doing” only glancingly aligns with “what I want her to do,” but c’est la vie. I was immediately taken with her choice of island setting (remote islands breed intimacy!) and the familiar configuration of type-A older sister paired with a younger brother who begs for a scrap of notice or attention. From the get-go Elsa’s priority is control. Nolan’s is acceptance. This quote sums it up pretty handily:
The problem was that Nolan wanted answers, and Elsa wasn’t sure what she would do with answers if she found them.
Like, I personally identify more with Nolan than with Elsa, because there’s this sense of learned futility that I find kind of charming in him but everyone finds annoying af in me:
Nolan wished he could return to a time before anyone had any expectations for him.
Elsa, otoh. Here is Elsa thinking about her ex, a relationship she clung to well past the expiration date merely because he loved her more than she loved him back, and she wasn’t willing to give up that bargaining position:
As long as his side of their love had more ballast to it, she felt in control and like he would not leave. Everyone left Elsa, so she had to be sure.
Nolan and Elsa are certified disasters. They’re both so burnt-out, and twisted up inside with shame and guilt and impossible desires, and the island is the ideal backdrop for them to resolve their issues:
There was so much that was not allowed that the island seemed willing to permit. Things underwater. Things offshore.
That night, they made no pretenses about the sleeping bag and slept cupped like shells in their father’s bed.
Jesus Joseph and Mary this woman can write. I’ve even seen lines from this novel quoted in those tumblr compilation poetry posts.
Anyway Elsa and Nolan’s dynamic is they do not get along and they’ve never gotten along. It starts with Elsa’s resentment at being displaced by a new sibling, which was compounded by Elsa’s mom being divorced and replaced by Nolan’s mom. These kids have spent all their lives probing at each other’s weaknesses and I am reminded of a very apt line from a book that has absolutely jack shit to do with incest: “When siblings spar, the true cause is proximity.” This seems to apply to Elsa and Nolan’s situation more potently than most.
Will you just LOOK at this god-tier sparring though:
Nolan touched a drop of rain that hung by her ear, letting it spill onto his fingers. Elsa smacked his hand.
Don’t— Elsa began, but Nolan, dirty water dripping from his fingers, grabbed Elsa around the ankles and shook her, groaning, Graaghh! like some B-movie Swamp Thing from the deep, ready to pull Elsa into the pool. Elsa considered Nolan’s hands around her ankles.
It’s one part goofing off, one part competitive banter, and one part violent sexual tension . Elsa takes meticulous mental inventory of every instance of skin-to-skin contact and I’m like—girl you know it only means something if you let it? Who the hell pays that much attention every time their brother accidentally brushes shoulders with them?!
There was a knot between Elsa’s shoulders that twisted taut when she saw him.
Nolan is shiftless and aimless, doesn’t even have the balls to break up with his girlfriend, his internal monologue is a constant refrain of “Nolan wished there was some more-adult adult whose job this could be.” Child you are TWENTY-EIGHT years old and need to start owning your choices. I think this hypothesis that’s sorta floated in an early Elsa POV is pretty conclusively disproved in the course of the novel:
But people didn’t change. They just ran away from everyone who knew them too well so they could start over and do a better job of obscuring the worst parts of themselves.
Because they do change, both of them change and mend their ways and they become a family again and ok here’s where I have a problem with C.J. Hauser: Her idea is that you have to choose—Nolan is either Elsa’s brother or her lover:
And he understood then that he could have kept Elsa as a sister or slept with her. It was a choice, and what he’d just done was to have given her up.
It seems her whole motivation for seducing him was as a big fuck-you to their father. I’m not saying she was not attracted to him I’m saying her field of vision is dominated by Ian:
Everyone here is insane, Elsa said.
They have their reasons, said Nolan.
They have stories, not reasons.
What if you’re my story? What if the story of why I’m on this island is you?
What’s my story?
Your story is Dad.
Go to sleep.
Tell me a story.
Which is really sweet and I am a fiend for these callbacks that deliberately echo the older sibling interacting with the younger one as a baby, but Ian’s stature is such that he takes over everything?? We find out that he wasn’t that great of a scientist. That he wasn’t a great dad was clear from the start.
So the really interesting thing from a craft perspective is the climax of this book occurs in the middle of it instead of at the end. The only other novel I can think of that does this is Cloud Atlas but that has a very unique structure. The film The Talented Mr. Ripley also kind of does this?
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
It’s revealed that Elsa isn’t Ian’s biological child. Her mom had an affair and when Ian found out he divorced her and married Nolan’s mom. When Elsa learnt the truth, she took the radical step of sleeping with Nolan to prove a point, I guess? To wit: If she wasn’t Ian’s daughter then it wasn’t actually incest. If Ian was troubled then it must be because she was his daughter:
But you are this kid, her mother said. You’re so totally his kid that you think biology is the only way you can be his kid.
I’ll admit that the “they’re not related” reveal does in this instance actually serve a purpose, unlike in some other books (yup this is a Wasteland callout post). And it ties into the theme of biology, and the stupid elusive ducks that supposedly inhabit this godforsaken island:
”We’re no longer good at adapting to things in the natural world because it’s too hard to tell which parts are real anymore so we don’t know what to adapt to.”
So there you have it. Family of Origin is not a book that spoke to my soul but it is a devastatingly exquisite book, and it has a number of really shippable scenes even if the relationship taken as a whole is not one I was rooting for. Here’s Nolan trying to get laid at college:
He didn’t know what to do because there had only ever been Elsa that one time before and Elsa had known what to do.
And then he has a breakdown so bad that he calls Elsa??? For emotional support??? Even though she’s at least 50% of the reason he’s so broken. When Elsa shows up she says ”I drove over two goddamn hours so you could yell at me in person” lolololol every single line of dialogue is so on-point. Oh oh and Elsa biting his ribs and his neck while they’re lying half-naked in bed is another pearl of a scene.
I saved so many quotes from this book and half of them have nothing to do with incest but they’re SENSATIONAL so I’m going to end this review with an assortment of quotes:
that she was afraid to ask for small things like this because the need in them did not seem big enough to draw attention. That she was afraid her small needs would go unnoticed, and so she made plays at bigger ones instead.
Whatever inner thing guided normal people in their choices … Elsa’s was broken. Nolan had been her first wrong choice, years ago, and as much as she’d have liked to pretend she was different now, that it had been a stupid teenage mistake, there was too much other wrongness that came after. Dozens of dubious choices that all seemed to bloom outward from that first moment.
But no, there was a difference between realizing how wrongly he’d been made and the moment the wrongness actually happened.
Because it wasn’t perfect. Because she couldn’t tell the difference between unconditional and infallible.
Maybe the sooner Elsa stopped trying to hunt down some class of people who had all the answers—adults, scientists, Mars missions, Ian—the sooner she could stop the cycle of trying to win. Could look around and decide what kind of game might actually be worth playing.
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anxious-acushla · 5 years ago
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Salty Asks: 4, 19, 20 and 26 (I hope I can guess your answer for at least one of these 😉)
DAMN GIRL! Going for the jugular with these...I LOVE IT.
4. Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP?
Alright. I cannot do anything that has Arya or Gendry with anyone that is not Gendry and Arya, respectively. Beyond that I have (what I think) is the obvious...j*rya and j*nsa absolutely disgust/baffle me. I just...can’t. Can’t. I don’t think they’re particularly popular but I have them blacklisted so I couldn’t really tell you.
Also, and I’ll apologize for this one because I genuinely want to like them but...j*nerys does NOTHING for me...which is baffling because I think Kit and Emilia have great chemistry. But their love scene made me so uncomfortable. I didn’t think they worked together at all. Maybe it’s because I knew going into it what the familial relationship is? I don’t know I legit just feel nothing when they had scenes together. I also have such a soft spot for Jon and Ygritte and it’s one of the things I thought the show didn’t totally butcher so there’s that too. 
19. What is the one thing you hate most about your fandom?
The GoT fandom is HUGE. All of my previous fandoms (or even corners of fandoms) have been much smaller, ie. you pretty much knew everyone (usernames and real names!) and everyone had a way to contribute that was unique to them. Even the expanse of the Gendrya fandom is overwhelming. When it’s like that, what is meant to be a single unified clique becomes several cliques because it’s just impossible to think that this many people (different ages, countries of origin, languages spoken, life experiences, overall preferences, etc.) is going to all be on the same page at the same time. Most of my previous fandoms were for smaller ships so it was usually us against the rest of the fandom OR on the flipside, no one really bothered us. Instead people can be very combative/exclusive with their ideas (the call-out culture is INSANE, ie. posts that start with “anyone who thinks”...my eyes roll so far back into my head they nearly get stuck). I also think this speaks to the changing trend of fandom in general. I don’t give a flying fuck what anyone says, I don’t think everyone is as friendly/supportive in fandom as they used to be. Fandom culture/etiquette is so different than it used to be and I miss it every.single.day. 
((**FOR EXAMPLE: old fandom culture had the unspoken rule that if you reblog an ask meme from someone you first have to send them a message with at least one of the asks. It was another way to get to know people and make friends. But whatever. *sips tea*))
20. What is the purest ship in the fandom?
GENDRYA forever and ever, amen. Honestly though, aside from them being one of my actual OTPs, they really are the purest. They knew each other as friends, respect one another regardless of gender/class differences, have that overall cinnamon roll-esque found family trope, etc. Gendry is also one of the only men in the series that is not a complete piece of human garbage and Arya deserves the world so it’s only natural that they be paired. I could go on and on but this is not me being salty and I’m preaching to the choir anyway so...
26. Most shippable character?
Jon. Which makes sense...protagonists are also typically the most shippable. ALSO, Kit is an absolute babe so I think there’s a tendency to ship Jon with many different characters based on a fan’s love of his portrayal of the character. Does that make sense? 
Send me a salty ask!
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janiedean · 7 years ago
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asoiaf for the meme thing :)
ALL OF THE QUESTIONS? ALL OF THE QUESTIONS. *cracks knuckles* beware: cersei fans pls skip this post it was named salty asks and I’m not trying to sound nicer as I’d try to be usually
What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get? see the crackship question for an appropriate answer to this since out of the ships that actually are canon I do *get* why they’re a thing
Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP? jon/sansa, any stark*cest tbh
Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion? in asoiaf? yesterday I unfollowed someone because I realized they changed their blog title to an anti jon/sansa thing (WHY DON’T SHIT ON OTHERS’S SHIPS) and on top of that they hated jaime and at some point made a post dissing him in the tags and then basically wishing brienne ended up with hyle and NO THANK YOU
Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP? t/ramsay, l/annincest and sansa/marg, t/ramsay is like 50% of what theon fans are into so I guess it’s popular but I don’t mind since the fans are chill and tag everything, l/annincest isn’t as popular as it could be and I honestly hope it keeps on declining because I’m petty and salty and the more time passes the less I can stand it, sansa/marg is sadly very popular and it’s half the reason why I can’t read a lot of t/hrobb stuff around because it’s the sideship and I can’t stomach it for reasons related to how obnoxious the shippers were during s3
Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you? in asoiaf? no but the part of sansa fandom who in s5/6 decided that whichever character shared a screen with her (from jon to theon to brienne) had to be dissed on principle was putting up an admirable effort to ruin the character for me
Has fandom ever made you enjoy a pairing you previously hated? *thinks* .... nah, but the t/hramsay fandom is a+ and has done wonders in not making me see it even if I stalk the theon tag which means I tolerate it a lot more than I used to
Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now? the show
Have you received anon hate? What about? *thinks* meh someone once sent me hate because I was arguing theon didn’t owe the starks anything and then there was the slew of j*aime/cersei anons a couple years ago who kept on sending asks like ‘he can’t be with brienne because she’s too ugly’
Most disliked character(s)? Why? cersei. good lord I guess she’s interesting for what she is but the only kind of *horrible people* I enjoy reading are *competent* horrible people and not only she’s incompetent, out of her mind and so self-absorbed she can’t even be an efficient villain, but like the fact that she’s an abusive narcisist asshole who fandom likes to present as a FEMINIST MODEL before declaring that she and jaime MUST BE THE SAME PERSON SO HE HAS TO BE AN ASSHOLE doesn’t help, also I find her povs boring af and I’m not interested in her head at all, and cherry on top anyone who laughs about catelyn going insane when she saw robb die in front of her is dead to me as anything. also she has the most fucking obnoxious subfandom in this fandom and she’s basically everything I detest in a) a person, b) a fictional character, so. yeah. hahaha. years ago it’d have been ramsay but the ramsay fandom is a LOT less horrid than hers, so.
Most disliked arc? Why? dany’s adwd arc, because it was too long and too much filler and I slept through about 70% of it like I honest to god don’t remember half of what happened. 
Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why? THEON GREYJOY because he’s the objectively best written and conceived character in there never mind the most original one grrm’s ever come up with and a delicious deconstruction of everything he sets to deconstruct and he has the best identity arc ever and I’m a sucker for identity arcs and fandom hates him sooooo *sigh*
Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why? every time I hear brienne’s chapters are boring I want to weep and bang my head against the wall because they’re in my top three asoiaf povs and like it was the first time I ever related to a fictional character because of things we had in common and tbh I thought it was exquisitely done and the exploration of post-war westeros was a+ and I loved everything about it
Unpopular opinion about XXX character? I don’t have a character so I’m just gonna pick one I have an unpopular opinion about hmmm I don’t think bran’s chapters are boring and I don’t hate jorah
Unpopular opinion about your fandom? oh god idk about the whole fandom but let’s just say that for how much I bitch about it, it’ 100% better than ANY other fandom around rn 
Unpopular opinion about the manga/show? the SHOW? lol, if I say I don’t like 90% of what they choose it’s not UNPOPULAR anymore I guess? idk I think yara’s a terrible character and has nothing to do with asha but everyone seems to love her so
If you could change anything in the show, what would you change? LOL I’d reinstate jeyne westerling instead of that horrid talisa stuff and then I’d put winterfell back where it belonged as in with jeyne poole and theon being the main character talking about MAIN STUFF, I’d get someone to inform theon that ramsay died, I’d have killed ramsay through jon beheading him and I’D HAVE SCRAPPED WITH FIRE THAT RIDICULOUS ENDING OF S5 WHERE THEY KILLED SHIREEN SO THEN THEY COULD MAKE BRIENNE KILL STANNIS IN THE MOST OOC THING I EVER SAW IN THAT SHOW sigh ah and jon*dany wouldn’t be canon by now I guess and lady stoneheart would have been a thing
Instead of XYZ happening, I would have made ABC happen… .... yeah right instead of talisa I’d have had jeyne, instead of sansa and theon I’d have had jeyne and theon and jaime would have dumped cersei properly two seasons ago
Does not shipping something ‘popular’ mean you’re in denial and/or biased? no, but harping at people who ship something popular and not canon telling them they’re in denial/biased is really fucking irksome
What is the one thing you hate most about your fandom? sorry I can’t pick ONE. on the same level: *book readers* who obviously haven’t read the entire thing, people who think jaime is the same person as cersei, whoever in the l/annincest fandom sends the monthly anons telling jb shippers how biased they are and that no one gives a fuck about jon connington. ah, and that people still think theon betrayed *the starks*
What is the purest ship in the fandom? jon/sam
What are your thoughts on crack ships? listen I enjoy crack ships myself but I hate it when some become more popular than actual sensed ships when they’re a thing because of aesthetics and I REALLY hate that in this fandom a lot of crack ships are more popular than ships that make sense or are canon (see: jaime/sansa - WHY IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE - vs jon/sam or jonc/rhaegar, or the fact that rhaegar/HARRY POTTER has more effective fics than jonc/rhaegar, or jaime/sansa probably having more effective fics than jon/ygritte since the latter is always a sideship or IN THE PAST and if you take the dany/jon and sansa/jon out of the ao3 search you get... 300 maybe, and actually add sam/anyone in the list of ships that don’t get following HMMM GUESS WHY) that said jonc/the blackfish is the crackship of the century and I’ll go down with it (and I enjoy a lot of others ie jon/asha XDD)
Popular character you hate? if she counts as popular, cersei. otherwise dany’s not my fave but I don’t hate her or anything I just don’t like her that much. ah no wait show!margaery like I honestly don’t get what’s so special about marg period
Unpopular character you love? THEON
Would you recommend XXX to a friend? Why or why not? of course I’d recommend asoiaf to people I do love it XD
How would you end XXX/Would you change the ending of XXX? it’s not ended already but I want jon ALONE on the throne, dany back in essos, the other starks in winterfell, theon getting a break and jaime and brienne being ridiculously happy on tarth (I KNOW IMPROBABLE IDC)
Most shippable character? def. jon like I ship him with a bunch of people too bad none of them are sansa or dany #hahahahahaha 
Least shippable character? idk out of people I actually ship with anyone period def. brienne like if she’s not with jaime or he’s not involved I really don’t see her with others (tho I’ll admit to watching the tormund/brienne crack vids because they’re amusing), also meh arya because I only ship her and gendry? 
WOW I COULD MAKE IT XD
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hypemanminami-blog · 7 years ago
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what are your ships for Minami?
Minami is pretty shippable i wont lie, he’s soft and cuddly and supportive of everyone around him literally he’s probably the easiest person to ship with anyone, like, I’ve even seen a Christophe/Minami ship on Ao3, it’s insane how easy it is to ship him with people 
MY SHIPS HOWEVER, consist of
Minami/Guanghong (Affectionately dubbed ‘Minaji’) Rp’d with @bingtiaowu
Two soft beans making the world a better place with how ridiculously adorable they are together? Yes please. These two are two of the top 3 most adorable Asian male skaters, put them together and you get a ridiculous level of cute that shouldn’t be allowed.   
Why they work? Guanghong is soft, he is, he’s soft and full of stress, anxiety and self-doubt, look at him skate there’s no joy there, just stress, he’s pushed into routines he doesn’t really have any inspiration for and just all around in need of a good cuddle. 
Minami is warm, kind and supportive of everyone around him, he brings joy and laughter and excitement with him, i think he’d be brilliant with Guanghong, very supportive of his ideas, providing endless cuddles, patience and love, helping him create routines full of excitement that he can be SUPER PUMPED ABOUT SHOWING TO EVERYONE. 
TBH they’re just adorable and based entirely on love, patience and endless support. Softest lil beans
Minami/Otabek (Affectionately dubbed ‘Otami’) rp’d with @altinkalpli
Just give me big strong Otabek with smol Minami any day okay, he will steal hoodies and leech warmth through endless cuddles during colder months, plus cat dads okay, snuggles on a couch or in bed with the happy lil floofy cats. It’s entirely indulgent this ship i love it don’t judge me. 
Minami/Yuri (Plinami!) rp’d with @delayutistoriya
This ship is primarily rp’d on discord ngl so all the art and stuff i draw for it, it’s usually inspired by stuff from Discord rp’s :’D 
BUT THERE’S NOTHING FUNNIER THAN ANGRY YURI ENDING UP WITH SOFT LITTLE EXCITABLE BEAN MINAMI, nothing funnier than that nope, and if Yuri does go through that ridiculous growth spurt that’s been mentioned a lot, tol Yuri and smol Minami. Imagine Minami playing with his hair, just braiding it or stroking it, just itching to play with it as much as possible cause YURI HAS SO MUCH OF IT (don’t u fuckin dare cut your hair Yuri omg Minami would cry) he just wants to play with it always and Yuri just preeeeeening cause yes, his hair IS beautiful and everyone SHOULD wanna play with it always. 
I don’t think he’d be all that fussed by Yuri’s bitch fits either? Like maybe at first he’d be a little intimidated but he’s just too happy go lucky to be worried about it forever, especially if he gets to see the softer side of Yuri every now and then. Probably wouldn’t care much about Yuri’s rabid fans either, knowing him he’d probably end up charming them with his adorable self.
Minami/Marinette My entirely random cross over ship with @mylxdy
Because why the fuck not, Marinette clearly has a thing for cute slightly famous blonde boys, and Minami likes all things cute and adorable so Marinette is definitely on that list, the girl is adorable don’t even try and deny it, she’s cute and smol and Minami would give her lots of snuggles and kisses.  
I don’t ship Yuuri/Minami, I just don’t, I know it’s canon that he has a crush on Yuuri but like… it’s a crush, mostly based on idol worship and he’s not going to end up with his Idol purely because Yuuri ended up with HIS idol. Minami would much rather see Yuuri happy with the one person he truly loves, than get in the way and make Yuuri upset. He’d never wanna make Yuuri upset okay. 
And i don’t really like plots that paint one side of a canon ship out to be shitty just to make the new ship work, like Viktor breaking Yuuri’s heart or being ‘dark and toxic’ to make Minami/Yuuri or Yuuri/ANYONE work, it’s such a shitty plot device like no, Viktor is extra and lovely and sees nothing but sunshine and rainbows in Yuuri, let them be happy like they clearly are and let everyone else just be happy FOR them. 
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allronix · 8 years ago
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Salty asks: 1-27.
Assuming this is the fandom of your namesake. 
1. OTP that I just don’t get. Probably Sam/Tron. Not to say some folks can’t REALLY fucking rock it (see the “We Are Pilots” verse), but it takes a lot of work. Their only meeting in canon was in a duel to the death with the Program being brainwashed and crazy, and Sam has very little if any reason to even like the guy, even in a post-Legacy setup. 
2, Fandom OTP I only BroTP:  Probably Tron/Ram. Ram had too much chemistry with Flynn, and Tron was single-minded enough about Yori to put his deity on hold. While I can very easily see group marriage as a normal part of Program society, it’s not something I can see in canonical circumstances. 
3. Unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion? Nope. But if they trash my faves, I hope they can back up their dislike with a very good argument. 
4.  A NoTP for my fandom. Not touching Sam/Alan with a 10-meter Rod Primitive. The age gap for one, the paternal role Alan took for two, the fact Lora is not dead in this timeline third, the fourth is the possibility of OT3: Shall We Dance making this ship even more brain-breaking.
5. Has fandom ruined a pairing for me? Not in this fandom, but I’ve avoided the hell out of some shows because I saw the fandom for them was such a big ball of crazy that I wanted to avoid it like kryptonite. 
6. Has fandom made me enjoy a pairing I previously hated? I’m not sure if it’s a good thing, and I’m not sure I’d call it “enjoy,” but there are some Clu/”Rinzler” fics that almost make the whole thing come out as something marginally less squicky and more interesting than “sadist and his sex slave.” 
7. Anything I used to like but dislike now? Y’know, I kinda used to dig Flynn/Alan slash. But after I realized I could make a drinking game out of them (take a shot if they mention Lora, chug the whole thing if they mention Jordan - stay sober the whole night), they lost a lot of appeal. I’ll make an exception for “Shall We Dance” scenarios. Heck, I love Shall We Dance because it’s a very different matter if Lora’s aware and on board with the whole thing. Heck, if someone upgrades it to an Ot4 of “Shall We Dance With Jordan,” then I owe them a six-pack of top-quality beer or cane-sugar soda and my enthusiastic gratitude. 
8. Anon hate? Yes. Received it. But over politics, not fandom. It’s to be expected. The Galaxy Rangers list used to have “don’t talk to Allronix about politics” as one of the bylaws. 
9. Most hated character? Probably Pavel. He’s such a transparent slimeball with little in the way of interesting motivation. Tesler? While he’s a nasty piece of work, there’s wiggle room to argue that he’s doing what he’s doing for the good of the system and doesn’t like doing what he does. Sark? Incredible ham and definitely one note, but David Warner plays the best creeps ever.  (He out-creeped Malcolm McDowell, that’s near-impossible) 
10. Most disliked arc. Probably the Isos. I’m still not sure what they were, or why they were special or what was so great about them, or how they would change everything, aside from the implication they were partly biological. Which is great and all, but the way it was handled has an “organics rule, synthethics drool” vibe that is pretty insulting when everything else in the franchise shows that the Programs are just as capable of love, hate, morality, humor, and free will as the humans who built them. 
11. Unpopular character I like that the fandom doesn’t? I just had to have the bad luck…or the good luck…to latch on very hard to the Tron 2.0 characters. Good luck in that it’s unexplored territory. Bad luck in that I seem to be the only one who writes Mercury, or Crown, or I-No. 
12. Unpopular arc I like the fandom doesn’t? 2.0 again. What got me about it is that the 1982 and Legacy films dealt with malevolent AI who were cruel of other AI and wanted to extend the cruelty. 2.0 inverted it; the uncorrupted Programs were, with very few exceptions, wanting to protect themselves and their home. The corrupted Programs were driven insane by a User who embraced the worst parts of the role. And then you had F-Con who planned to crank that up even more so that they could rule both worlds from the shadows. It really needed to be explored more, as it was a great start. 
13. Unpopular opinion about a character: Sam Flynn kinda spooks me. He has no reason to be merciful or benevolent to Programs. As far as he saw, his dad believed in them, and they stabbed his dad in the back, kept his dad away from him, tried to kill him, tried to kill Quorra, killed all of Quorra’s people, and eventually killed his dad right in front of him. And he’s taking over command of a software company with barely any time to process that trauma.  It’s probably not going to end well for the Programs unless something intervenes.
14. Unpopular opinion about the fandom: They have very little interest in reclaiming the female characters from the margins, and that’s quite frustrating. Quorra and Paige get some fics here and there, but even those petered out. Yes, this fandom is VERY heavily skewed male, but you’ve got Quorra, Paige, Mara, Gorn, Lux, Yori, Lora, Gem, etc. in Legacy canon, and some great potential with Mercury, Ma3a, and Eva Popoff if you import from 2.0. I was hoping to see at least SOMEONE write up a fanfic about Jordan. What kind of woman could handle a brilliant, cheerful, crazy ball of energy like 80′s!Flynn?  
15. Unpopular opinion about the canon: Legacy is very difficult for me to watch. Even though it totally brought the whole thing back from the dead, it’s just frustrating to watch. Not to say everyone didn’t bring their A-game to it, but it took everything that made the first film so much fun and destroyed it, ending up as a depressing waste where everyone loses, and Dillinger Jr is just waiting in the wings to cause even more trouble. 
16. If I could change anything about the canon, what to change? Tron 2.0 totally happened. It would not be hard to come up with a workaround for Ma3a that keeps Lora alive. There’s probably about three or four ways I could come up with other than the made of crack one I’ve got going in my fics. 
17. Instead of X happening, I’d go with Y: If you want something other than “instead of 2.0 being thrown out the airlock, it’s part of canon,” I would have loved to see Sam get rescued by Bartik’s crew (Bonus points if Yori’s running the damn thing) and then meet up with his dad and Quorra. That way, there could have been a little more complexity to the Grid situation and a way to avoid the whole “Programs are evil!” thing Legacy ended up with.
18. Does not shipping something ‘popular’ mean you’re in denial and/or biased? Shipping, IMO is shorthand for schools of character interpretation. Someone who ships Quorra/Sam is going to have a different take than someone who ships Quorra/Zues, or Quorra/Paige. They’re all looking at the same data, but the interpretation of the data is going to vary.   
19. One thing I dislike most about my fandom: It’s a back alley of the 80′s that its own company barely wants to admit they did. This makes canon and newcomers a little hard to come by.
20. Purest ship in the fandom. Tron/Yori was my first OTP. They’re still my OTP, because 82!Tron was such a sweet, earnest dork and Yori was such an adorable, sneaky badass. Post-Legacy? It’s going to be one heck of a climb no matter which guess you take about Yori’s fate (And seriously? Morgan got gypped), but having those two limp off into whatever digital sunset there is would be the closest we get to a happy ending that’s canon-compatible.
21. Crack ships? A crack ship for the sake of a crack ship is a “no thanks!” But there are ships that look like someone did them on a three-drink dare that actually manage to work. I’m thinking to KOTOR fandom where someone made a REALLY awesome case for Canderous/Bastila that should not have worked and totally did. 
22. Popular character I dislike: It’s not so much “dislike” as “I’m not sure what to make of them.” Really wanted some development on Sam. Quorra got Evolution and a nice episode of Uprising, but Sam…he’s still a bit of a blank to me. 
23. Unpopular character I adore:  I especially latched on hard to Jet Bradley after reading the Ghost in the Machine comic because he had clearly done a lot of thinking about what being a User means in that setting, and was bringing up points no one else bothered with. As such, he makes an excellent foil and walking deconstruction fleet while still being, ostensibly, one of the good guys. 
24. Would I recommend Tron to a friend? Only with a ton of disclaimers. This was made in the EARLY 80′s, by people who apparently had no fucking idea what they were doing, and Disney probably signed off on it while under the influence of something. But the combination ends up as something inexplicably brilliant and probably launched thousands of computer animation careers and hundreds more IT careers. 
25.   How would I end it? I’ve got fics in mind for it. I kitbash 2.0 and Legacy shamelessly. The ending I have in mind? Well, Alan and Lora end up giving up their lives in analog to rebuild the Rome Flynn started. Jet ends up dedicating his life to serving the Programs and goes a bit native. Mercury and Tron act as the primary “knights” of Alan and Lora. Sam and Quorra handle much of the rest in the analog world, slowly trying to open up the world and make it ready for the revelation of the digital one. And Yori runs a reformation of the Program religion so that they are prepared to accept the Users as fallible beings who are still powerful, but less “worship as deity” and more “we depend on one another - don’t screw it up.” 
26. Most shippable character? Probably Flynn. I can see him as a fellow who would (prior to the coup) enjoy himself and his opportunities to the fullest, including trying anything twice sexually. 
27. Least shippable character: Probably Esomond Baza. He’s a coward with so little self-esteem, self-respect, or a moral compass that he needs a few months of therapy before even thinking of a date. 
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billysjoel · 8 years ago
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Tbh will u answer all the ask meme questions for scrubs 👀
hell yeah i will (crossed out ones are ones i’ve already done)
What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?*JD and Elliot and Elliot and the Janitor (there was a time when I sort of shipped them, but now it just kind of grosses me out oops)
Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP?*JD and Elliot again haha
Have you ever unfollowed someone over a fandom opinion?I don’t think I have in the Scrubs fandom, but in other fandoms I have
Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP?*Not really? I mean, I don’t ship JD and Elliot romantically, but I can see parts of their relationship that are cute and sweet or whatever
Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?*
Has fandom ever made you enjoy a pairing you previously hated?*
Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now?*I definitely do NOT hate Perry and Jordan as a couple, like at all, but I don’t ship them as much as I used to. I was like super into them before I started shipping JDox, and then I saw the Light.
Have you received anon hate? What about?*Yeah, like a long time ago, probably not long after I joined the Scrubs fandom. Someone actually made a blog pretending to be me and was super nasty to me, but it was really short-lived.
Most disliked character(s)? Why?Oh man, it’s really hard to say I hate any characters on Scrubs, but I guess my least favorite character would be The Todd? I mean, some of his bits are funny, but mostly he’s just a dumbass lmao
Most disliked arc? Why?As previously stated in another ask, the whole Kim storyline sucks.
Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?Probably not? Maybe Keith?
Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?I can’t think of anything right now?
Unpopular opinion about XXX character?I don’t know that this is exactly unpopular, but I really, really love JD. His flaws, of which there are many, make him a real, believable character.  He makes mistakes and some really stupid choices and he can be shallow and indecisive and careless sometimes, but he’s so compassionate and intelligent and kind that in spite of his failings, he really is a good person with good intentions.
Unpopular opinion about your fandom?Unpopular makes it sound so negative, but there are so few people in the fandom that there’s really not even any Discourse lmao so idk, I really like the fandom. Everyone’s really supportive of each other and some of the fics out there are fucking insanely well-written.
Unpopular opinion about the manga/show?
If you could change anything in the show, what would you change?Could certainly do without the really problematic “jokes” they made (blackface, the t-slur, etc.)
Instead of XYZ happening, I would have made ABC happen…Two words: trans JD
Does not shipping something ‘popular’ mean you’re in denial and/or biased?lmao no? everyone ships different pairings and that doesn’t mean one is better than the other or what have you. I mean, JDox is my OTP to end all OTPs, but if someone doesn’t ship them, that’s chill, too
What is the one thing you hate most about your fandom?How tiny it is! I want more content and fics and all the things!!!!
What is the purest ship in the fandom?Probs Reidspinosa or JTurk
What are your thoughts on crack ships?I fucking love crack ships and crack fics and just crack in general (that sounds bad lmao). I love the absurdity of it and it makes me laugh
Popular character you hate?nobody
Unpopular character you love?He’s not unpopular but in case anyone forgot I LOVE PERRY COX
Would you recommend XXX to a friend? Why or why not?YES AND YES AND YES AGAIN I want the whole world to watch and love Scrubs
How would you end XXX/Would you change the ending of XXX?They should have ended with My Finale and left it at that. I’m not pissed that S9 happened, but it doesn’t have the same feeling that the rest of the series did. Oh, and Perry would have run out after JD and asked him stay while professing his undying love, but I digress
Most shippable character?JD probs
Least shippable character?For me personally, Kelso. Love the guy, but I just don’t really ship him with anyone
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valamerys · 8 years ago
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Honestly Lucien is so shippable. He's shipped with like almost everyone 😂
YOU ARE CORRECT have a list of my lucien ships, which you did not ask for and are going to receive anyway (not including ot3s because we’d be here all day):
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Elucien, obvs
Cassian/Lucien (WHAT A COUPLE OF BITCHY SMARTASS DOMESTIC BOYFRIENDS WHO LOVE EACH OTHER AND DRIVE EVERYONE ELSE INSANE BC THEY NEVER SHUT UP)
Rhys/Lucien (hatesex. snark. #History.)
Feyre/Lucien (YOU CAN’T LOOK ME STRAIGHT IN THE EYES AND SAY THEY NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT. LUCIEN WAS RIGHT THERE BEING HIS FINE-ASS SELF IN ACOTAR Y’ALL)
Tamlin/Lucien (like, as sad fucked-up onesided unhealthy Layers upon the unhealthy relationship that’s already canon)
Andras/Lucien (where’s that post lauren made i’m too lazy to go find the link but THAT)
Mor/Lucien (ik it’s weird but like THINK OF THE FAMILY MISTREATMENT PARALLELS [and ‘lol isnt it fun running an entire court while our high lords are busy being Dramatic’] THEY COULD BOND OVER + THINK ABOUT HOW PISSED OFF MOR WOULD BE WHEN SHE FINDS OUT HOW TAMLIN TREATS HIM AND HOW LUCIEN JUST THINKS THATS…. NORMAL)
Tarquin/Lucien (which I know i’ve talked abt before in detail but i cant find the post? anyway. ginger bby gets v sunburnt in the summer court but it’s worth it.)
#multishipping life
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