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Okay, I'm going to spin this off into a whole meta about Dick's secret identity.
Pre-Crisis, Dick's time with the Titans meant he really had other priorities besides keeping a secret identity. Like, he doesn't outright say he's Robin, but he does go on missions into space or to Azarath and such, where it's fairly obvious he'll be gone for a long time. (And he's not getting that security deposit back from Deathstroke attacking his apartment.) Basically he acts like the arrows, laboring under the delusion that people haven't figured out who he is when in reality he absolutely sucks at keeping a secret identity.
Post-Crisis, a nine-year-old figured out his identity, that's important so write it down, but he does try to hide it more. The tabloids think Starfire is dating Nightwing and Dick Grayson and a third blond guy who is Dick in a cheesy disguise. But she still gets mad at Nightwing for sleeping with "her identical twin sister" (Mirage).
Post-Zero Hour, there's a new wrinkle, since Tim figured out Dick's identity from watching Robin perform a quadruple somersault on the news. The thing is, one of the sillier ideas from post-Zero Hour is that Batman is an urban legend. They never retcon away Tim's origin in favor of a more compatible origin, leading me to conclude that everyone knows Batman is an urban legend, and the real guardian of Gotham is Robin.
In more recent years, they just really haven't addressed it, even though Dick Grayson philanthropist and Nightwing leader of the Titans have a bit of a crossover since the former paid for the latter's base. And Dick and Barbara live at Titans' Tower.
How public was the knowledge that Dick Grayson (not Nightwing) and Starfire dated? I remember seeing some panels with them meeting in public (somewhere at the airport?) but I'm actually not sure. Because now I remembered this:
It would be so funny if Dick, in his civillian life, got a reputation that he somehow knows all sorts of aliens. Someone spotting him talking to Superman (Clark) while out of Nightwing costume? Maybe someone saw him discussing something with Martian Manhunter? Figures, that Grayson kid got himself another one.
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What do you mean by twins?
Star and Stephanie are twins. They were raised quite normally, until their father was revealed on the news to be a villain and not just a normal prisoner. Although their mother was aware of it, the rest of the city was not, and suddenly her daughters were in danger.
The families of those Cluemaster had attacked became enraged and sought revenge on those closest to him: his family. Unfortunately, their mother could not take care of both of them and when the press revealed the identity of one of the twins, she made a risky decision.
She asked her brother to take care of Star, to hide her, and she stayed with Stephanie. They were both too young to remember, and over the years they lost touch. The twins' mother did not want to risk her brother who was now living in Amity Park. So she didn't call frequently.
On one occasion where a football match between Amity and Gotham was held, Star participated as a cheerleader. Not noticing Stephanie's frightened look from the stands. Had someone cloned her? Why?
The bat family got paranoid and tried to initiate contact with "the clone" to get a sample, but the Amity Parkers were too cautious. And the bats swore they felt eyes on the back of their necks every time they tried to get close.
Of course, the Amity Parkers wouldn't let them get close, which made the vigilantes even more frustrated. The worst part is that it was all a misunderstanding, but that didn't stop the battle between the two sides.
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Tara's Sister ~ Chris Sturniolo
Summary: You get to meet some of your older sister, Tara, friends, instantly clicking with Chris Sturniolo.
Warnings: possible swearing, teasing, fluff
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You were staying with your older sister Tara. Tara is three years older than you and everyone said you were so much alike, you could be twins.
You were chilling in Tara's room on your phone, Sugar close by you, when you heard multiple voices from the living room. You knew Tara's roommates were out so you were slightly confused on who was here.
"Let's go see who it is, Sugar." You mumbled, the dog responding and following you out the room.
You walked to the living room where you saw your older sister, along with three identical males. Sugar trotted over, gaining their attention.
"Hey." You called, making one of the males scream.
"Fuck! Where did you come from!" He shouted.
"Uh the bedroom." You replied casually.
"Guys, this is my little sister, Y/n. Y/n meet Nick, Matt and Chris." Tara introduced.
"Nice to meet you all." You said with a small wave.
"Next time don't sneak up on me." Nick said, making you laugh.
"Try not to." You replied.
You sat down next to Tara and joined in the conversation they were having. The guys asked you a good few questions too.
"So how come we've never met before?" Matt asked.
"I'm on a break from college so Tara said I could spend some time here." You answered.
"What classes do you take?" Nick asked.
"Fashion and photography." You replied.
"But I've told her many times before she doesn't need to go to college for that, she's way too good!" Tara exclaimed.
"That's why I'm on a break, to see if I want to go back or not." You explained.
They nodded as you all continued chatting and making jokes. You noticed that Chris was eyeing you up a lot and you had to admit, he was kinda cute. As the day went on, you kept talking with Chris the most, having an instant connection with the youngest male.
Nick, Matt and Tara also all saw the connection between you and Chris, thinking it was cute. It was as if you two were in your own world, oblivious to the people around you, both smiling and giggling with each other.
When the guys sadly had to leave, you got all their numbers, Chris' being the first, before they left. When they did, Tara had a massive grin on her face.
"What's got you so smiley?" You asked.
"You and Chris!" She exclaimed.
"What about us?" You asked, trying to play it cool.
"You both had fucking heart eyes for each other! It's so stinking cute!" She shouted.
You laughed as a faint blush appeared on your cheeks. You thought Chris was cute and funny, even in that small amount of time. You then got a message on your phone, seeing it was from Chris.
Hey great meeting you today, was wondering if you wanted to hang out sometime? Just us. 😁
You smiled as Tara squealed, looking over your shoulder. You laughed and set a reply.
Of course let me know when. 😝
You smiled and looked at Tara, who was smiling wide. You couldn't wait to hang out with Chris.
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a/n: part two anyone? 🤭
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Okay so I had an intense fnaf movie theory
(⚠️SPOILERS FOR THE FNAF MOVIE⚠️)
So starting off, one of the major plot points of the film is that Vanessa is William's Afton's daughter, and that Mike and Abby don't seem to be related to them at all, right?
And there's a theory about the Golden Freddy Spirit BEING an Afton kid. Not just the blonde hair (the actor isn't a natural blonde, it was dyed for his role) but the way the kid seems to react to everything.
He remembers his death. That's a plot point for the other kids, that they don't remember their deaths and the drawings make them believe the Yellow Rabbit is a friend. But he does seem to remember, since he told Mike through a drawing that the Yellow Rabbit killed his brother.
It's uncertain why he doesn't tell the other kids, or why his main goal is getting Abby rather than getting revenge, but it seems he's playing William like a pawn rather than vice versa. It's only when William stabbed his sister Vanessa that he stepped in. And the way William reached out for him in the safe room like he was asking for help almost solidifies it.
Now back to my theory, I'm sure plenty of you have heard the theory that the Schmidts are actually Henry's children, not William's. It would explain why William drove 9 whole hours to kidnap some random kid in Nebraska if the kid wasn't actually random. Maybe a revenge scheme over some company fault.
So my thought is, the family dynamics with the Aftons and Emily's are switched in the games vs the movie.
Game:
Micheal Afton (eldest brother)
C.C Afton (supposedly middle brother)
Elizabeth Afton (supposedly youngest sister)
Charlie Emily (murdered twin)
Sammy Emily (supposedly survived twin)
Movie:
Mike Schmidt (eldest brother)
Garrett Schmidt (middle brother)
Abby Schmidt (youngest sister)
Golden Freddy Spirit (murdered twin)
Vanessa Shelly-Afton (survived twin)
I say twins because young Vanessa looks about the same age as GFS (although we don't know what year the photo was taken).
It feels like swapped dynamics to me. Garrett is a Charlie Emily parallel in their identical deaths, which could make both Mike and Abby Sammy Emily parallels as the surviving siblings. And the way Vanessa parallels Micheal A. (especially in her guilt and need to make up the kid's childhoods), would make GFS both C.C and Elizabeth. Honestly if GFS did have some sort of loyalty/passiveness to William murdering him like I mentioned, it definitely confirms an Elizabeth parallel.
I don't even need to mention how William makes Vanessa help him with his crimes (just like Micheal in the games) or how he plays with her guilt by blaming the mess on her (which suggests he would've blamed her brother's death on her, just like how Micheal feels guilty for C.C's death).
Sammy would probably also feel guilty for Charlie's murder, as that's how Charlie felt in the books when she thought it was Sammy who got taken. That was a situation that wasn't in the surviving sibling's control, just like how Mike couldn't stop Garrett's kidnapping. But GFS's murder could've been a preventable accident that Vanessa felt at blame for, just like Micheal for C.C (and probably Elizabeth).
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I'm so incredibly exhausted with the narrative that if you question Gwyn as a character it's because you have an agenda against her. That if you think she's suspicious it's because she threatens your ship.
Listen. I enjoyed Gwyn and Emerie in Silver Flames. I liked them both as friends for Nesta. Emerie resonated with me a little more than Gwyn, but I still found Gwyn to be an adorable and fun character. Her refusing to leave Nesta in the Blood Rite was one of the most heart wrenching moments of the entire book and had me in tears.
Gwyn is, however, sus af. From her singing triggering Nesta to talk about and have visions of the Dread Trove (she definitely doesn't have singing related powers), to her excelling at training being explained away as pliant bones (because she's never physically trained before, right?), to faintly glowing when she sings (light and singing, nothing odd there), to her bringing up Truth Teller and somehow knowing it was used to kill Hybern (how does she know this? Why do she and Emerie use almost identical wording when mentioning Hybern's death, but only Gwyn mentions the Shadowsinger's knife?), to feeling unworthy of wearing the invoking stone (why? Because she failed to save her sister while outnumbered and brutalized, even though she successfully saved a bunch of children? I don't want to imply that her feelings about her own grief and trauma are wrong in any way, but is it just guilt over her twin or something more?), to her saying that if Nesta and Emerie knew everything they'd think differently of her (what are you hiding Gwyn? What could make your deeply traumatized closest friends think less of you?), to Nesta noting she has a secret beneath her pretty face (what secret? Her nymph heritage? That's not a secret, she's open about it), to the surprising authority in her voice and the way she made Nesta's powers grumble.
And this is all in the main text of ACOSF, completely excluding the Azriel bonus chapter. These are all things that I noted on my first read. There was nothing in the book that made me think "romance" or "mates" or "threat to my ship" in the book, but there was a whole lot of weirdness around Gwyn. In the same book where we're introduced to lightsingers. These are things that all set off alarm bells for me before I even knew GA was a ship.
It's not an agenda against Gwyn or a petty reaction to a crackship. It's all right there in canon, no twisting of the text required. Az's bonus chapter is just confirmation of what we already knew from the book - Az and Elain have feelings for each other that are not platonic, and Gwyn has something going on with her singing and luring.
That's it. No hate, no agenda, no threat to Elriel.
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I was finally able to finish the design of this character, it's been months (literally since I got the hair last year) that I wanted to make a character with the narcissist hairstyle, a friend gave me the Days of color pants and I almost haven't worn my other outfits since then. Honestly, I've created a handsome character just to dress him up in different clothes, don't judge me.
Anyway, His name is Altair and he is one of my characters that live in the Aviary, he has a job that makes him travel to the other Realms frequently but his home has always been there since the Aviary became the main city. He has a twin sister named Alhena, she is currently missing, some consider her dead, but he firmly believes she is still alive somewhere.
Other things under the cut
Quite social, a bit charismatic, but introverted, a lot of social contact overwhelms him even if in front of the public he seems quite normal.
he has a good sense of humor, he laughs at everything, even his own mistakes.
He is not interested in flirting and if asked he will be terrible at it, he accepts compliments but if you flirt with him he will respond with discomfort.
50% of his landings go wrong, hitting the ground or with his head stuck in the sand is his daily routine.
He is a friend of Eko's and I plan to make a whole little story out of it
They are identical with his sister, they even share the same body shape, but he doesn't have a feminine build, his sister is the one who looks like a boy and many times they get confused, she enjoyed that
He has a very strong connection with his sister, they can coordinate perfectly when they are close and when they are far away they can “feel” each other, however, what he feels now is uncertain, he has traveled through all the Realms looking for her and that feeling has not changed, he has not felt her closer, the only thing he knows is that she is not dead.
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Hii!! No idea if you take reqs rn but if you dont thats fine just ignore this!!
But if you doo... can you pretty please do the stardust cruseders x fem reader who has a identical twin?!?!
I wanna know how they would react and what they would think!! (Since i have a identical twin lolz)
Thank you and have a nice day!!>_<
Stardust Crusaders W/ an IdenticalTwin!Reader
Characters: Joseph Joestar (p3), Jotaro Kujo, Muhammad Avdol, Kakyoin Noriyaki, Jean Pierre Polnareff Type: Fem!Reader, Headcanons
had really great ideas for Polnareff and everyone else's is kind of short soz >.<
Warnings: none
Joseph Joestar
cannot tell you guys apart for the life of him
he just calls both of you by your name and see's who responds
pls do not sister swap and prank him he WILL fall for it 😭
he probably made a dirty joke about you being a twin at some point in his life (pls hit him for it)
honestly he probably has been hit more times than he can count for accidentally grabbing your twin instead of you 😭
whether its you or your twin doing the hitting you decide
Jotaro Kujo
even if you guys seem to not have any differences at all Jotaro can still tell you two apart without thought
even if you guys swap clothes or something he will just be like "??? why are you dressed like your sister"
and when you ask him how he knew he just shrugs
or he'll point out something so small, like maybe your left eyebrow is a little higher idk
but yeah finding out you had a twin wasn't that big of a deal to him
like ok cool whatever moving on
he probably doesn't interact with your twin like at all..
every time she's around he's kind of just like 🧍♂️ because he doesn't have much interest in getting to know her I guess
very much acquaintances and nothing more
Muhammad Avdol
another one who's really good at telling you apart, though not as instant as Jotaro
I think Avdol is a #certified lover so he spends a lot of time just admiring you
hence why he can recognize a difference
he knows you like the back of his hand too, so even if he couldn't tell you guys apart physically he could based off of your little mannerisms <3
he thinks it's cool you have a twin
he probably knows some nerdy spiritual shit about being twins idk
sometimes he might get you guys mixed up (or just genuinely say the wrong name) but he's quick to fix it and apologize
another one you shouldn't play pranks on because he just gets so genuinely confused and maybe even a little stressed...
Kakyoin Noriyaki
he can tell the difference but he has to stare at you really hard in order to get it 😭😭😭
relies on personality to tell you guys apart
or alternatively, he will get you some sort of wearable gift like a bracelet or something so he can tell much quicker
he doesn't tell you this though, he say's the gift is "just because"
then if you ever ask how he tells you and your twin apart he just says "I can just tell" (liar, its the jewelry)
Jean Pierre Polnareff
this guy...
the first time he met your twin happened to be when you weren't around
if you guys have different hair color/length/cuts bro probably just assumes you felt like switching styles and planned to surprise him or something...
"Oh la la, mon amour! I like what you've done with your hair!"
and your twin is just like ??? who is this guy
he probably tries grabbing/kissing your twin just to get punched or kicked in the nuts
and here you come, rounding the corner looking the same you did yesterday and he's like !?!?!?!?
he's not necessarily the smartest guy and considering the shit he's been through it's reasonable for him to assume your twin was the result of a stand...
and you're like bae no thats my sister
and he's like oh
he apologizes for harassing your twin...
if you guys are exactly identical like same style same hair everything this guy swears he can tell you guys apart when he really can't
he just goes by whoever responds to his nicknames
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popstar! reader x bakugou fic teaser
masterlist | part one coming soon!
“Lower.” Mina squints at the brightly colored banner that’s hanging unevenly across the expansive width of Bakugou’s living room. She and the rest of the gang on decorating duty were nearly done with their task to transform the blonde’s home, save for the obnoxiously large banner that stretched out “WELCOME HOME” in a flurry of colors.
Denki adjusts himself on the stool he’s precariously wobbling on, glancing quickly to Sero on the other side of the room and then back to the girl. “Which side?”
“Um,” she blinks. “Yours?”
“Is that a question or are you telling us?” the black-haired man snaps incredulously, his calves straining from the twenty minutes they’ve spent holding the strings of the banner up for Mina. I should’ve covered Shouji’s patrol, he thinks, regretting ever volunteering to decorate.
“Um.” She winces. “Telling you?”
Twin groans echo in front of her, and with nearly identical movements the boys slap the taped strings onto the wall, ignoring Mina’s cries that it was not in fact, even.
“No one’s even gonna notice!” Sero jumps down, narrowly avoiding one of the hundreds of balloons scattered on the ground.
“Yeah,” Jiro agrees, standing up from where she had been fiddling with the music setup for later. “This place looks great.”
“She’s not wrong,” Denki says, looking around. “This would get hella views on Pinterest.”
“S’not like she’s gonna give a shit anyways,” Sero snorts. “She’s gonna throw a fit over the size of the place, not the decorations.”
“You know that girl would be thrilled to get together at a FamilyMart,” Mina rolls her eyes. “It’s not her that’ll care how perfect it looks. We’ll be lucky if Bakugou doesn’t set us on fire for the banner.”
“Bakubro should’ve been here then,” the blonde responds. “Kiri won’t care, and it's his own damn sister. He said she just landed, btw.” He holds up his phone where the group chat is open. “And since we're all done, we’re free to go.”
Jiro snickers. “Don’t abbreviate your words, loser. Besides, Blasty's got reason to be on edge. It’s been what? Two years?”
“Just about,” Sero calls behind him as he leads the group outside. “Good thing we’re done, gives me time to shower and change at least,” he winks at the other man. “Gotta look good for my reunion with our pop star.”
“Like you’ve got a chance with her.” Mina can’t help but snort.
“Yeah,” Denki piles on with a knowing grin. “Didn’t she reject you back in third year?”
“Hey, that was five years ago!” Sero says with a pout, leaning into his blonde friend’s shoulder dramatically. “I’m a Pro Hero now, how could she say no to me?”
He gets three responses instantly.
“She’s got standards.”
“She’s an idol.”
“She’s practically taken already.”
“Alright, I get it,” Sero scowls, particularly at the last statement. “Some friends you are.”
“Sorry bud, but you aren’t the only one pining,” Jiro laughs, pushing the two men out of the door. “Get in line.”
“Yeah!” The pink-haired girl scoffed. “Behind me, the rest of Japan and half the world, tape boy!” She flicked the lights off, sliding the extra key into the door and locking it. “Not that it matters,” she sighs with a lingering smile to the apartment door. “If the idiot keeps his head out of his ass this time, she’ll be spoken for soon anyways.”
Kirishima is fairly certain his heart is about to fall out of his ass.
He’s wheezing from chasing a bank robber (who even robs a bank nowadays?) in a dead sprint across Shibuya for the past thirty minutes.
There’s no way this guy doesn't have a speed enhancing quirk, he thinks, muscles burning with exertion.
His pride would be hurt otherwise.
He’s late, much later than he wanted to be. He was supposed to be back at the agency ten minutes prior to when this bozo sprinted out of the bank past him and from the way his pocket has been vibrating every 30 seconds since then, Bakugou’s not pleased his meticulously detailed plan is being thrown off schedule. Again.
Kirishima’s been buzzing all day, anxiety kicked into overdrive when they both had to cover patrols last minute for sidekicks (a disadvantage of running a hero agency, not that he’s complaining).
As a result, decorating and other tasks for the party they’d been planning for months had been handed off to their friends at the last minute, who the redhead sincerely hopes do a good job, lest his explosive best friend do something crazy, like set someone on fire.
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for clone Danny, Clone Damian
I give you
Edit Clone Talia as somehow Girlfriend of Danny, just think of the comedy
nah brO BECAUSE LITERALLY I HAVE THOUGHT BOUT THAT. Literally since the conception of Clone Danny, I have thought about it. If only for, as you said, the COMEDY of it all. Plus I love writing romance.
Literally my motto for my aus is: A) is it plausible, B) is it FUNNY (and a secret third option C) is it ANGSTY)
Clone Talia would be an offshoot au of Clone^2 because idk how she'd fit into the original timeline, bUT, she'd exist. And to avoid confusion I'll call her Nasra - I thought about Tameka (which means twin) but I like Nasra better. "Talia and Nasra" just flows so nicely doesn't it?
Idk WHY there's a clone of Talia running around -- maybe the LoA made her, maybe n unknown organization who hates Batman and knows he has romantic ties to Talia, and started making a clone of her to fuck with him and then she got nabbed by a portal when she was still Danny's age and in the middle of training. She might be like Connor (??) and have memories and thus her training is more proficient than baby Dames.
Either way, regardless of how she was made, I think it's hilarious if she, much like baby Dames, immediately attacks Danny on sight. She falls into his city and Danny only has a moment to go "goddammit not agaIN" before he's fending off a very confused, very violent Nasra. Fortunately he's able to actually try and talk to her and be at least somewhat successful -- Nasra knows english. although even if she didn't, Danny would still be somewhat successful since he knows Arabic.
Also Bruce and Danny are the battinson bat because i think that is also hilarious and 'wet rat' is STILL the perfect energy for Danny as Phantom - especially in the early days when he's running around in all but jeans and a hoodie. (and god watch me go on a rant in a separate post about his outfit and reasonings for being Phantom when he has no powers later on because it makes me go FERAL. and his active choice to look as inhuman and ghost-like through his behavior as phantom and the decision to wear such a creepy mask as possible)
(like seriously, imagine walking home late at night while danny was still in his early vigilante days (and even now when he's got damian and a better suit) and seeing a skinny figure in the shadows with sunken in black-and-glowing-green eyes, and a bone white, skull-like face, crouched on all fours like a wild animal about to pounce. THAT is the level of creepiness I was going for for clone danny)
In my head, Sam offers to house Nasra and Nasra stays with her. SAm is able to convince her parents to let her stay, or she pulls a Danny and just straight up smuggles her in and her parents are none the wiser. I also think it's funny if they have unspoken BEEF with each other. Only to later become like sisters. Nasra teaches Sam the martial arts she knows, and also Danny joins in too with Damian because goddamn he needs it even IF he's learning stuff from his mom (as per the most recent snippet post I made).
OH AND DAMIAN AND NASRA. I think it's equally as funny if they ALSO have beef with each other. Nasra is a clone of his mother (of whom he might have complicated views on due to being a clone but still is his mother) and Damian is a clone of Nasra's "son". This beef largely starts from Damian's own refusal to want to share his Danny with another clone, especially with a clone of his MOTHER.
Danny and Nasra don't become lovers for a good, long while I think. They're besties first before they even consider the idea of dating -- not only just because of the whole "uhhh our counterparts dated so it'd feel kinda weird and forced if we dated" and also because Nasra, with her newfound freedom, is busy trying to figure out herself.
A big theme here in clone^2: discovering your identity and who you are as a person when the only thing you own that's unique is your name (which isn't even the case for Damian), and figuring out if your choices are your own or because you're a clone and its something your original would have done. Nature vs Nurture and the illusion of choice and whether it really is one or not.
Also Nasra also becomes a vigilante. Danny appreciates the help but is also tearing out his hair because what the fuck is up with these assassins and becoming vigilantes?! Nasra goes by "Nesha". She's similar to Red Huntress at first where she kinda does her own thing, but is lowkey forced to team up with Danny about it because she doesn't have any proper ghost hunting equipment with her.
And then a duo becomes a trio, and Danny is spending more time with her. And they steadily become friends. Very snarky friends who are very bratty to each other, but friends. Damian still doesn't like her so Danny spends extra time during patrol keeping the two of them from making insults at each other.
"Nesha please stop fighting with a nine year old. Wraith, quit insulting Nesha."
Nasra also uses like, weaponry as Nesha which exasperates Danny a little because why are you using swords??? They're already dead its not gonna kill them,,,, If you cut off their heads its just gonna piss em off, its re-attachable. Let him ghost-proof it first too. But well, its still gonna HURT he supposes. He's still a little exasperated.
And MMM i'm sorry lmao im so focused on Nasra becoming her own person than the actual romance aspect of it all. Nasra cuts her hair short for the same/similar reasons that Danny keeps his long - to try and gain a semblance of autonomy and identity that's away from their original. Danny has his alternative rock-kinda geeky look and Nasra's got, from influence from Sam, a more alternative fashion style. Although she still leans into being feminine, which is a good challenge to Sam's belief that feminity = bad, and gets her to unlearn those bad habits since her new adoptive sister is feminine while still being an unapologetic badass.
And ykw I think Nasra gets into rollerblading and loves it. She rollerblades constantly. Damian is furious because skating is his thing (even if what he gets later on is a skateboard - skater boy damian ftw. i can see him wearing flannels and graphic tees as a teenager. very grungy/skater aesthetic. He also has a much more relaxed and teen-y speech pattern compared to DW's more formal way of talking. He also spray paints as his form of artistic medium.) and he refuses to have Nasra be a copy of him.
They will sort out their differences eventually. LMao.
Anyways they eventually do get together, but not before Danny finally has his run in with Mister Wayne. Which, they only meet because Danny starts destabilizing, and thus needs Bruce Wayne's DNA to help stabilize himself. Which that meeting in and of itself is pretty chaotic on its own, but then add clone Damian and Nasra? Bruce needs coffee.. or alcohol.
Because picture this: its late at night, you're on patrol with the rest of your family. It's like, two in the morning. You suddenly get a call in from your butler, Alfred, informing you that not one, not two, but THREE children -- two of them in their late teens and the other one not even ten yet -- showed up on your doorstep. One of them is unconscious. They are all clones.
The girl and the boy are twins - and are clones of YOU - and the girl isn't even technically YOUR clone she's a clone of your clone - and also this clone of you is your college friends' kid. And then the youngest boy is a clone of your youngest SON. Bruce is running across rooftops when he gets this call and does a literal 180 degree turn and touches the ground because he basically did a figure skating turn, and sprints back towards the manor because what the fuck? He needs to check this out.
And then half a day later a clone of your fucking ex shows up on your doorstep demanding to see the clone of you - the boy that is, not the girl - and then immediately gets into a verbal lashing with the clone of your son. Like what a fucking DAY. Your kids are equally as baffled but also laughing their asses off -- except your bio son, who is very unhappy about this turn of events and keeps getting the stink eye from his clone.
Like??? I'd quit right then and there.
While Danny recovers he's staying in Wayne manor and Damian is very reportedly not leaving his side. Ellie has to leave to help take care of Amity Park with RH, and then Nasra is also very determinedly not leaving his side either. This is her friend dammit. The first thing she does when he becomes lucid is insult him, and he insults her back - they're bantering. It's how they flirt later on. None of the Bats know how to deal with this situation.
#dpxdc#dp x dc#dp x dc crossover#dpxdc crossover#dpdc#dpdc crossover#dpdc au#dp dc#dp dc crossover#clone^2#danny fenton is a clone#danny fenton is not the ghost king#sorry this got so long and i barely even got into them falling in love with one another#satoshy you should totally reblog this so we can talk about this more i'd love to bounce ideas with you or anyone else about it 👀#this is so funny to me personally because like. im imagining nasra doesnt show up unti danny's like at least 18-19#which is a wild set of 3 years for danny because he finds out he's a clone when he's 15#acquires Damian at 16 and then meets nasra at 18#like he got one grace period where it was just him and his new little brother and then BAm another clone#damian showed up by accident but i promise you nasra was specifically clockwork's doing because its hilarious to me personally#CW loves danny but also he's a little shit. i was originally gonna call Nasra's vigilante name 'revenant' but thought it was too basic#also danny not meeting bruce until he's almost 20 is very funny to me. especially since baby dames was with the league for 6 years#beforehand#like what do you mean my clone has been living unnoticed for 18 years. he's had damian for HOW LONG? THREE YEARS?#morally gray danny has my heart ever since my post where he murdered three guys for nearly killing his brother.#nasra attacks danny and yay! he doesn't hurt his hands this time around! he's grown since he met damian. that was also a large part why dee#didn't like nasra right off the bat. she could've hurt him and made his hands even worse.
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Ohtori is such a disorienting place. It's so emblematic that none of the actual needs of the people in it are met. In fact it gives answers but none actually are satisfying for anyone yet the answers are presented as only alternative. ("You have to revolutionize the world (by participating in the duels that ensure the world continues to run on the same old dynamic.)"
What system Ohtori, Akio by proxy, proposes is the idea of power over another. It's very gendered power as we learn later. Women's power exists either as extension's of a man (Nanami's high social status by virtue of being Touga's little sister), be inspired to have power by extension of a man (Wakaba), surrendering to a man (Kozue), or can be easily taken away power if a man decides that the woman had enough power (Juri,Utena). In the instance a woman has power it's also used to dominate others just like men do. (Nanami being cruel to others, to Tsuwabuki in particular, Utena treating Anthy her a puzzle piece to her princely identity.) In the end there is an idea how someone who should hold all the power should be like (the Prince), and they're given free reign. However that's not what the characters need.
Touga is entirely helpless to his paternal CSA. Akio's proposition is to become, for once, the one in charge of others so none can exploit him again. And Touga fails to see how Akio still exploits him by directing Touga, with quiet implicit imagery stressing that dynamic. What Touga would have needed was protection and a trusting family.
Nanami grew up so isolated and shamed for diverging from the norm, she is entirely dependent on external subjects and objects to define her. Either it's being defined by her relationship to Touga which is the entire basis of her social status, and her only hope for affection. Nanami can only define herself by traditional feminine and classicist means like her perceived ideal femininity, and brand-name jewelry which can easily turn on her, if external voices tell her that she should wear something. Nanami is so desperate for affection, being cared and loved for but the only language she is given is Ohtori's language of "men and women are only corresponding romantically". She can't express her need for familial proximity to Touga. The only other form of gaining adoration she knows is by violence, be it Touga's kitten, Tsuwabuki, or beating her three nameless underlings into submission.
It's not until the third arc that we learn about the Kaoru twins are in the middle of their parents separating. Their childhood is getting disrupted. Both of them are longing for time of connection and chance to hold onto each other. But Ohtori tells them that Miki can only adore Kozue as innocent and helpless. Kozue, like Nanami, gets told that her only chance to express affection to her male twin is by a sexualized, romanticized interaction. For two characters who're living through turbulent times, and need some stability in the other, twisting their chance of proximity is exactly the wrong answer.
Saionji really wants to remain friends with Touga he admires so much. (If not being in love with him.) Even more than Juri, he knows that the duel platform is just a set up, he swallows Touga's poison of "true friendship doesn't exist" again and again. The only chance of proximity to Touga is to disrespect others, demonstrate superiority over them, especially Anthy, as best proxy to a close male-male-dynamic. Saionji's only given path is to delude himself further and further.
Juri pushes so many people away because she's afraid her homosexuality will be revealed. Ohtori as a place does punish homosexuality severely, see Mikage's twisted memory, Ruka trying to converse Juri. This place convinces Juri over and over again that she's wrong for loving Shiori. But the truth is, Shiori is so much in love with Juri that she will resort to abuse her emotional power as long as it serves the purpose of Juri remaining close to her. What they would have needed is the chance to know that actually they're safe to be honest, at least to each other.
Utena is deeply grief-stricken by her parent's death. As a child the idea that everything will fade is terrifying. The only alternative she is shown is that Anthy's suffering is eternal. She wants to help. But the only path for being admired and adored is becoming a prince. The only agency to help and save others is by exercising the prince's power over someone. Akio becomes even crueler by trying to convince Utena that a girl's actual aspiration is romance (with a man). What else should she want? It also distract her from her genuine compassion for Anthy, and wishing for Anthy's happiness.
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Fuyumi gets an email with a code phrase when she turns 18. Its a phrase she and Touya made up years ago. Her heart stops and she goes to the meeting place. She doesn't find her brother.
She finds her sister.
“We’re identical twins,” The two of them had always said, in spite of the clear evidence of the obvious. It had started as a joke, no that’s not entirely correct, it had started out of a childish need to belong to each other like no one else ever would. They were twins after all. It only made sense for the two do them to be as identical on the outside as their souls were inside.
Father had been furious the first time Fuyumi had cut and dyed her hair to match Touya’s. Had been more furious the second and third times, but that had never stopped the two of them. Father would always be furious about something so it might as well because they did something that made them happy.
(The only fight Fuyumi had ever started as a child had come after a boy, older than them and mouth twisted in a sneer, had spit at her that identical twins had to both be girls or boys not one of each. It was the first time she had ever seen Touya freeze and look hurt. It was the first time she had ever broken a bone after not knowing how to throw a punch.
Father had been furious with them for that too.)
Natsuo had always claimed they had a language all their own. Twinspeak he called it. A mix of so many languages that only the two of them truly understood what the other was saying. Writing it out didn’t help at all, something Natsuo had informed them after finding one of their many notes and lobbing it at Touya’s head, and even years after her twin’s death she still found herself scribbling notes in twinspeak. Notes only she could read now.
At least she thought until an email came in the same jumble of code she scribbled in the margins of papers. An address.
She didn’t even think before grabbing her coat and shoving her feet into her shoes without tying them, leaving her umbrella behind as she sprinted into the rain. Didn’t even once stop to consider the alternative.
She was panting and drenched by the time she had arrived at the abandoned warehouse from the email, scrambling to haul herself into the back window the email had pointed out and all but tumbling through in her desperation. Hands, familiar yet so different, caught her and a voice, smoke rough but higher than she had expected, huffed a laugh.
“Damn, Yumi. Take a breath before you black out.”
Fuyumi sobbed, and twisted just enough to get her arms around her twin, her living and laughing twin, before she crumbled.
It wasn’t until much later when Fuyumi’s tears had finally stopped and Dabi (Dabi now, not Touya. And god how much happier her sister was than her brother had ever been) had dragged the two of them to a stained and sagging couch tucked into the corner of the abandoned building to explain that it finally caught up to her. Dabi blinked as Fuyumi snorted, laughing and scrubbing at her cheeks as she pulled back to look at her.
“I have to dye my hair black now.”
(Her hair that had been kept short and red for years. Her hair that her father had stopped fighting her over after she had thrown a pair of scissors at him the day after her twin’s funeral. Her hair that served as a constant reminder that she was half of a matched set even with the other half missing.)
Her sister blinked, then tipped her head back to roar her laughter to the ceiling.
“We really are identical twins now.”
#the elf talks#mha#bnha#somewhere endeavor is hearing boss music as his twin daughters plan his downfall
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Everyday I scroll through your blog just to remember what happiness is.
Also, I did have an actual question or request(?) I suppose, I want, NEED more details about your specific AU with Wendy and Jackie, what fo they enjoy? How often do they fight with their fathers? What do they grow up to be??? You've said before that Jack is scared of his powers, so does this result in him going out and having a 'normal' life? How would that affect his relationships with his family?
Of course you don't have to answer but I am very curious!
hello there!! I'm so glad to hear that you're enjoying my blog, thank you for your kind words 💙
and yes i will gladly answer your questions! this will probably get a bit long, i hope that's okay with you
au's mainly focused on twins when they are around 17-18 (kind of symbolic to tim's age when he cloned them because I'm prosy like that)
one of the main reasons why I've decided to go for twins in this au (aside from being indecisive about whether it should be a boy or a girl) is because it gives me a chance to demonstrate how two people can have same upbringing/surrounding and be influenced by the very same group of people AND still form entirely different perspectives and opinions on certain things. i'm going to use both kids' relationships with kon as one of the clearest examples:
wendy appreciates kon dearly, she thinks very high of him and constantly seeks for his company and attention. on the other hand, as she gets older, it becomes really awkward for her to be around him because she's old enough now to actually understand and pear wiggle the whole "my dad cloned me out of this dead dude's dna without his consent" thing in her head, until she has to stop for a moment and go: "wow. that was So Not Okay of my dad." on top of that she's facing a major identity crisis because you know, teens, and starts to question her own existence and even tim's love for her, because she can't be sure now if he actually loves her or if she's just a good enough replacement of what her dad could have loved, but never got an actual chance. which eventually leads to her bottling up lots of anger towards tim, because obviously it's his fault that she can't look kon in the eyes anymore, and none of this would've happened if he just had his shit together and didn't try to clone kon all those years ago (and she's not even entirely wrong)
what she CAN'T fathom just yet is the fact that she loves kon so much partly because she got to see him through tim's eyes; part of her affection for kon is deeply rooted in a way tim spoke about him when she was a kid, always loving, always in awe — essentially, tim was the first person who taught wendy the concept and the feeling of love. and even her awkwardness and guilt that she's experiencing around kon are inherited from tim; she's just mirroring her dad's own feelings about himself without even realizing it
jackie, on the other hand... it would be easy to say that he's just not as close with kon as his sister, but when you start to look at the reasons, well, it gets a little bit messy. you see, jackie was always a "daddy's boy"; he and tim were inseparable when jackie was a kid, they still are, actually, it's just that tim only now starts to realize negative side effects of their closeness but that's for another post. not only that, he's also much more... observant than wendy in a lot of ways, so while wendy was soaking in tim's affection for kon as a sponge to eventually make it her own, jackie couldn't help but notice how hard it was for his dad to have kon in his life only as a co-parent and nothing more (they've bended their friendship as years went by, but it was never easy for both of them); not to mention that tim, to this day, experiences a very severe depressive episodes, to the point of not being able to get out of bed — jackie was very affected by it too growing up. so to him, as of now, it doesn't make sense for kon to stick around and be his usual "weekend dad" if he's not willing to stay forever, and he's kind of resentful towards kon, because he always felt sorry for tim in this situation. not that he doesn't understand why exactly it's the way that it is, it's just that his philosophy on that matter is: if you can't stay forever, do not bother visiting us at all, and stop giving dad any hope for more. jackie's anxiety regarding his kryptonian powers also does not help at all, more on that later
(got carried away with this, sorry, i just had to take this opportunity to explain why there are twins in my timkon clone baby au)
so about the kids, wendy is a rebellious soul and free spirit, and her interests really show that about her — she's been horse riding since she was five, tim was a bit hesitant about it at first, but with damian's help they managed to convince him that everything is going to be okay; damian has also bought wendy her own horse, the one she's connected with in her equestrian club (damian is her favorite uncle ever since; she did not let him call her horse a "Bathourse", tho). aside from that she plays guitar just a little, tim's also tried to teach her piano but ended up failing miserably; he also wasn't able to pass on to her his music taste, wendy is almost strictly a pop girl. she's not really good at photography from professional point of view, but she almost always has her little digital camera with her to take snapshots of memories
(she's also really into true crime videos/podcasts, it's one of the activities that she likes to share with her dad; most times after a fight with tim, if she wants to make up or apologize, she just sneaks into his office and starts playing random true crime youtube video at full volume)
jackie doesn't really have a "main" interest or hobby, even though he's passionate about a lot of things, some of them include: art (because damian), sports (although he's not playing himself), cars (because tim), photography (once again, tim), also I'm pretty sure he's good at math — a little bit of this, a little bit of that, as he himself would say. it could create a major problem for him to choose between college programs if he hadn't already decided that he is going to inherit drake industries, so business it is. tim actually had a whole conversation with him, like, "are you SURE that's what you want," resulting in jackie just. shrugging his shoulders, because it's just about as good as any other choice; not that he has some big, special dream anyway. also i think that he probably skipped a class (wendy did not; she's not too excited about going to college)
speaking about jackie being scared of his powers, it's most likely the result of an accident/series of accidents from his childhood when he unwillingly hurt tim or demolished something during tantrums (he used to throw them a lot when he was younger); kon has offered his help at figuring out how to control it, of course, but if for wendy it was existing and she wanted to get even stronger and make more progress, for jackie it was always about keeping it at bay so to not hurt anyone else. he never really wanted to become a vigilante either, which is good enough for tim because he's worried enough about wendy rushing to the field; he's as close at being a civilian as you can possibly get while growing up with bats and having a kryptonian dad. mostly it's a relief for his family ("at least one of us is going to graduate college"), although wendy can't stop bugging him about joining in and being the coolest vigilante twins gotham has ever seen. it's a bit isolating for him, sure, considering that everyone in his family is a superhero of some sort, but with tim mostly being a stay at home dad and only managing comms every once in a while it turned out better than it could
it DID get long, and i start to lose the train of thoughts; nevertheless, i hope you'll enjoy this answer 💙 feel free to ask more about them, I'm always up to chatting about my babies
#dc#dc comics#timkon clone baby au#timkon clone baby#timkon#tim drake#red robin#kon el#superboy#conner kent#wendy drake#jackson drake#thank you so much for this ask#it caught me at a very stressful time and actually managed to bring smile on my face. love you#also so sorry about the delay#job is kicking my ass
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What do you think about theory that Lila is Manon from future?
I am vaguely aware that this is a thing, but I'm also assuming that it's a joke and not a serious theory because that would be one of the most asinine things that I've ever seen. This fan theory is even worse than the pigeon feather thing in terms of absurdity. It should be reserved for crack fic and nothing else. However, this show never fails to impress me with its poor-quality writing choices, so let's take a quick moment to talk about why this wouldn't be a good twist.
The issue isn't the time travel thing. Lila being from the future is perfectly in line with the sort of crazy stuff that Miraculous does to the point where I wouldn't be shocked if Lila is from the future! Maybe Ladybug and Chat Noir "wronged" her and so she came back in time to try to stop them from being a thing or something like that? It fits her characters. Lila has been shown to be incredibly petty and, whatever is going on, it's clear that she came to Paris with an agenda otherwise why go the multiple identities and parents route?
However, if this from-the-future twist ends up being a thing, then Manon would be the worst choice for Lila's true identity because Manon is a well established character who shares no obvious traits with Lila. The only things that the two characters have in common are their hair and eye colors (or, at least, the hair and eye colors that Lila now has). Nothing else ties them together.
Yes, Manon does her baby-doll-eye manipulation thing, but that's not a sign that she's secretly a master manipulator or a compulsive liar! It's just a thing that little kids do. Boundary pushing is par for the course at that age.
For Manon to be a good baby Lila, we'd need to see Manon doing some actual quality manipulation tactics that trick people instead of just standard little kid pouting and boundary-pushing techniques. There's no point at which Manon is successfully lying to get what she wants. Her requests are always rather blatant and no one but Marinette falls for her "manipulations" because everyone else knows how to deal with little kids as we see in these two exchanges from Puppeteer:
Nadja: Alright, now give the doll back to Marinette. Manon: NO! I wanna keep it! Marinette: She can if she wants. I told her she could borrow it. Nadja: And that's sweet of you, Marinette, but Manon already has so many toys at home, I wouldn't even know where to put it.
Marinette: Manon! What are you- Manon: I left my bag here! Can I have Ladybug? Marinette: You heard what your mom said. Manon: She wouldn't know if I hide it!
Not exactly gold star manipulation tactics here. They'd fail if Marinette had a backbone.
Could you really picture Lila acting like this? I can't and that's the problem. Because Manon is an existing and well-established character, they have had time to make her into baby Lila. Time to set up the twist. But they haven't. They've just written your standard boundary-pushing little kid. Her behavior is really not all that different from Ella and Etta's (Alya's little sisters), so why would Manon be Lila and not one of them?
That's another problem. If you're going to have a big twist like this, then Manon needs to feel different from the other kid characters and she doesn't. Really think about this for a minute! As far as the kid characters' behavior goes, what's the difference between Puppeteer and Sapotis? I'd argue that there isn't one. In both episodes you see little kids pushing boundaries, leading to them being punished, leading to them getting akumatized.
In Puppeteer we get this:
Manon: But, Marinette wanted me to have it! Nadja: You disobeyed me. I told you the dolls were to stay at her house. You won't be needing these anymore. Manon: NO! Mommy, please don't! Nadja: I'm not happy about this. Wait for me here.
In Sapotis we get this:
Ella and Etta: It's not us! It's the—! Alya: That's it! (picks up the twins) Ella and Etta: Come on, Alya! We won't do it again! Alya: Yeah? Well, it's too late! (takes off both twins' propeller hats) We'll all go to the park when you can behave, some other day! Now go to sleep!
Extremely similar scenes with extremely similar outcomes.
Another similarity is Manon, Ella, and Etta's behavior in Simpleman. They're basically interchangeable in that episode, further killing this theory.
If this twist was going to be a thing, then I'd also expect us to see Lila and Manon interact at least once since we do let Lila talk to the kids on a few occasions. And if we didn't get that, then I'd definitely expect us to see a moment between Lila and Nadja or even a moment where Lila avoids Nadja. Anything to establish some sort of tie between Lila and this little family that she was once a part of. As-is, canon has done diddly squat to tie them together so I don't understand why the fandom is making this tie. Do people just really dislike Manon and want her to be evil?
In summary, Lila is - at most - a decade older than Manon, so we should see seeds of Lila already starting to form, but we don't. Lila holds grudges, Manon doesn't. Lila lies left and right, Manon doesn't. Lila plots, Manon doesn't. Lila hates Ladybug and Chat Noir, Manon adores them. In other words, nothing in the text backs up the idea that Manon would become Lila in a few short years, so where did this theory even come from?
#unbelievablesupercooloutrageous#ml fandom critical#ml fandom salt#don't think those tags really count but let's play this safe#As a crack theory this is excellent#As seriously analysis this is terrible#And I've been assuming it's a crack theory#Please let it be a crack theory#Restore my faith in humanity!#Manon is Lila theory
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Ok so about Johan why did he exactly kill the fortners?I understand why he left her at the fortners but then why did he come back after 9 years and kills them and hhen he wants to see her? Like what was his plan exactly
The tragedy of being one
This is the tragedy of twins: Johan is obsessed with the idea of being Nina and Nina being him, a single being separated into two entities, but a single being nonetheless.
Shoot me. You are me and I am you.
What Johan wants for Nina is not for her sake, but for her to remain himself. Or more precisely, as her identity has been suppressed by her mother, to be Nina.
Johan isn't angry with Tenma for saving him, but he knows that by saving the monster, Tenma himself has prevented Nina from finding happiness.
You saved my life 9 years ago. Have you already forgotten about the twins?
There's something that I find is often overlooked in the analysis of the beginning, and which will be of vital importance later on. Tenma had to answer a dilemma, save the mayor or save a little boy, but in reality, another silent dilemma arose immediately afterwards, save Johan or save Nina? Because in reality, throughout the work, Tenma is trying to make up for his mistake, not just saving Johan, and therefore killing him as Nina had aspired to do, but also saving Nina whom he had condemned.
Who was she trying to save ? Me ? Or my sister? Which of us ?
It's clear from the beginning that as long as Johan is close and alive, even in a comatose state, Nina is no more. The little girl in hospital needs to heal, just like her brother. The climax of all this comes when Johan ‘wakes up’ and Nina faints. They can no longer be two, they are condemned to be one.
It's towards the end that we realise that this dilemma has conditioned the twins' existence: who between Johan and Nina? Tenma will have to answer the question. If he doesn't kill Johan, it's not just because he's afraid to kill, it's because he doesn't know how to answer it.
If Johan had actually been killed by Nina that night, Nina would finally have been happy, because the monster would no longer be there. Above all, death was the only way for Johan to be "happy", because Nina is him, and if she is happy, he would have been happy. But if he lives, he's not cut out for happiness. And because Nina is him, she can't hope for happiness and a loving family.
Johan contacts Nina as Prince Charming on his white horse who will cover Nina with flowers. It sounded weirdly romantic, but in reality the symbolism is something else. In the apocalypse, Death is a white knight. And the flowers only evoke those placed on graves for mourners. Johan wants to cover Nina in flowers. Or lose his loved ones.
Don't tell me you think Prince Charming on his white knight is going to come and get you ?
For Johan, attacking the Fortners was inevitable. The name alone is a problem : Fortner. People who gave Nina a name. A name that she's not supposed to have. Giving herself an identity is what sets Johan apart. And he won't allow it. To return, he has to empty this identity.
It is for this symbolic reason that Nina suffers from amnesia. Obviously because she's traumatised. But also because the more she embraces Nina, the less she is Johan, so the more her memories of him crumble.
That's why, automatically, when Johan kills the Fortners, Nina remembers having killed him. Suddenly faced with death (the white knight) and loneliness (smother with flowers), Nina remembers the existence of her twin, Johan.
I killed him.
Why did Johan wait so long ? I think we still need to answer this from a philosophical point of view. Johan wanted to see Nina again. She is him, he is her, she is the only being that matters. But the Fortners were just in the way.
Are they really on their way when they didn't really know about this meeting? They have in themselves interfered by giving Nina a name. Johan is nevertheless concerned about Nina's happiness because I think he really tried to give her access to a form of healing and peace. He wanted to die so that she could be happy without the monster inside him. Then, when she rejected him in hospital, he let her live without him.
I'd also like to point out that Johan changed his motivation after recovering some of his memories. Which will in fact be Anna's. By reading the story about the nameless monster. Before that, I think Johan's amnesia gave him a kind of block. And he himself was afraid of what he described as a monster. Who was actually Bonaparte visiting them at the Liebert house.
Johan could never trust adults so he didn't trust the Fortners any more.
You'll run away so the monster doesn't catch you.
I think Johan's conclusion was that the only person he could trust was Doctor Tenma. So he left it to him to explore a past that he wanted to keep forgotten. I think he really did entrust Nina to him at the castle. Because Johan was there! He shot the henchman who was going to kidnap Nina. He was there when Nina met Tenma.
Why didn't he show up? Because he realised that Nina wasn't ready. Because she fainted when she saw him. She couldn't see Johan, the reflection of a past she didn't have the key to.
He killed the Fortners on Nina's birthday. A random date set for a nameless orphan with no history. Johan came to give meaning to this birthday. The day of Anna's rebirth.
And Johan's rebirth. Everything he did, he did for himself too. He has no name. Nina had to lose her family, she had to have a name without any substance. What are the Fortners without their parents? There is no longer a Fortner family.
The nameless monster simply ate his escaped second half.
One went east, the other west.
Then the monster who had gone west said to him. We don't need a name. You can be very happy without a name. Because we are the nameless monsters.
The little boy ate the monster from the west.
#monster#naoki urasawa#nina fortner#tenma#kenzo tenma#johan#johan liebert#anna liebert#analysis#thank you very much for giving me the chance to do a little analysis of Monster !!!#ask#<3
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The Forbidden Library by Django Wexler
Alice always thought fairy tales had happy endings. That--along with everything else--changed the day she met her first fairy
When Alice's father goes down in a shipwreck, she is sent to live with her uncle Geryon--an uncle she's never heard of and knows nothing about. He lives in an enormous manor with a massive library that is off-limits to Alice. But then she meets a talking cat. And even for a rule-follower, when a talking cat sneaks you into a forbidden library and introduces you to an arrogant boy who dares you to open a book, it's hard to resist. Especially if you're a reader to begin with. Soon Alice finds herself INSIDE the book, and the only way out is to defeat the creature imprisoned within.
It seems her uncle is more than he says he is. But then so is Alice.
Troy by Adele Geras
The Siege of Troy has lasted almost ten years. Inside the walled city food is (Malacca). and death is common. From the heights of Mount Olympus The Gods keep watch. But Aphrodite. Goddess of Love. is bored with the endless. dreary war. Aided by Eros's bow. the goddess sends two sisters down a bloody path to an awful truth: In the fury of war. love strikes the deadliest blows.
Casson Family by Hilary McKay
The four Casson children, whose mother, Eve, is a fine-arts painter, have all been given the names of paint colors. Cadmium (Caddy), is the eldest; then Saffron (Saffy); Indigo, the only boy; and Rose, the youngest. When Saffy discovers quite by accident that she has been adopted, she is deeply upset, though the others assure her that it makes no difference at all. Saffy is the daughter of Eve's twin sister, who lived in Siena, Italy, and died in a car crash. Grandad brought Saffy, as a very small child, back from Siena.
At Grandad's death he leaves something to each of the children. To Saffy, it is "her angel," although no one knows its identity. How Saffy discovers what her angel is, with the help of an energetic new friend, lies at the heart of this enchanting story.
Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth by E. L. Konigsburg
A lonely girl discovers a magical world and a new friend when she meets a young witch on Halloween.
Unicorns of Balinor by Mary Stanton
After a terrible riding accident, Ari cannot remember anything of her past and is sent to live on a farm with foster parents. What Ari doesn't know is that she is not from our world, but from Balinor, a land of sorcerers and unicorns! Her parents, the King and Queen, sent her to Earth to protect her from a raging war before they were banished from their homeland. Now Ari--Princess Arianna--has found the road back to Balinor. As she struggles to remember her heritage, she must face the challenge of restoring peace to Balinor.
The Divide by Elizabeth Kay
When Felix and his parents visit the Divide in Costa Rica, a place where the waters that run down to the Pacific and Atlantic oceans separate, he faints and wakes to discover an amazing back-to-front world where mythical creatures are real and humans and science are legend.
Phantom Stallion by Terri Farley
When 13-year-old Samantha returns home to her family′s cattle ranch in Nevada, she′s worried. She moved away two years ago to recover from a bad fall off her beloved mustang, Blackie, and she′s still not sure she can get back in the saddle. Her new colt doesn′t seem to like her, and the other ranchers treat her like the boss′s spoiled daughter, and Blackie has been missing since that fateful day. But that′s just the beginning. When Sam suddenly finds the fate of a mysterious mustang who may or may not be the missing Blackie - resting in her hands, she has to learn to be a real cowgirl, ready or not.
Miri and Molly by Annie Barrows
Miri is the only single child in the middle of a family with two sets of twins--older brothers and younger sisters. When the family moves to an old farmhouse Miri accidentally travels back in time to 1935 only to discover Molly, a girl in need of a real family to call her own.
Sixty-Eight Rooms by Marianne Malone
Almost everybody who has grown up in Chicago knows about the Thorne Rooms. Housed in the Children’s Galleries of the Chicago Art Institute, they are a collection of 68 exquisitely crafted miniature rooms made in the 1930s by Mrs. James Ward Thorne. Each of the 68 rooms is designed in the style of a different historic period, and every detail is perfect, from the knobs on the doors to the candles in the candlesticks. Some might even say, the rooms are magic.
Imagine—what if you discovered a key that allowed you to shrink so that you were small enough to sneak inside and explore the rooms’ secrets? What if you discovered that others had done so before you? And that someone had left something important behind?
Hitler's Daughter by Jackie French
Her name was Heidi, and she was Hitler's daughter.
It began on a rainy morning in Australia, as part of a game played by Mark and his friends. It was a storytelling game, and the four friends took turns weaving tales about fairies and mermaids and horses. But Anna's story was different this time: it was not a fairy tale or an adventure story. The story was about a young girl who lived during World War II. Her name was Heidi, and she was Hitler's daughter.
As Anna's story unfolds, Mark is haunted by the image of Hitler's daughter. He wonders what he would have done in her place if he had known his father was an evil man leading the world into a war that was destroying millions of lives. And if Mark had known, would he have had the power and determination to stop him?
#best childhood book#poll#the forbidden library#troy#casson family#jennifer hecate macbeth william mckinley and me elizabeth#unicorns of balinor#the divide#phantom stallion#miri and molly#sixty-eight rooms#hitler's daughter
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t4t timcass leaning into the physical similarities and incest angle
YEAH YOU GET IT-
TimCass looking physically similar my beloved. i just love when they're so similar it's *creepy*. mannerisms, looks, how they wear their hair, how they fight, all of it. esp if other heroes actually assume they *are* related. and Tim and Cass never correct them bc ppl nonchalantly call Dick his brother so sure, Cass is his sister too in that sort of way. and Cass doesn't really care what people assume about her family. (could be fun too if this was during the time Cass didn't know her mom anyway so like. she didn't know either way)
and being t4t. your brain. trans!Cass is so fun. bc her trans identity would likely be the first personal identity she develops and femininity would be so important to her for her understanding who she is. it gives her freedom and the room to be perceived in a way that she has control of. would be so fun for Tim to help her with makeup and shaving. i like the thought they're just so used to each other bodies that nakedness isn't something they question even before getting together. they shower together anyway, so why wouldn't Tim help Cass learn how to shave her legs. why wouldn't Cass wash Tim's hair for him.
i think it's fun if Tim going on T increases his sex drive *immensely*, to the point it makes him borderline frustrated how horny he is all the time. (as is common for a lot of transmasc folks) and so they're in the shower together and Tim is annoyed, shifting around and Cass just wraps her arms around him and slip a hand between his legs to help him out before he can even ask what she's doing. on the flip side, Tim massages Cass chest while she's struggling with the tenderness of breast growth on E and she ends up jerking off as he does it bc it's the first time that pain hasn't been a bad thing for her. mutual jerking off becomes so common until it leads to sex in all sorts of creative ways as they explore their gender expressions. Cass finds one of Tim's old dresses in his closet and puts it on so she can wear it while she rides a strap she puts on him. they lean into the incest in bed too, Cass very pleased to call Tim her brother when she's tugging on his bottom growth.
also fun if as they both transition, it makes them harder and harder to tell apart. they trade clothes and their voices and bodies go through changes that both Dick and Bruce have gone "Tim can you- wait shit you're Cass sorry-" more than once. and neither of them mind. bc there's something pleasing about looking so much like the person they love so deeply. it connects them and makes them virtually twins that no one will ever seperate.
#necrotic answerings#timcass#casstim#cassandra cain x tim drake#physically similar TimCass my beloved#hey what if I wrote Tim and Cass as biological siblings. then what.#something something David has a one night stand with a random Gotham socialite#and a young Janet marries her good friend Jack so her pregnancy isn't a scandal and he just raises Tim as his own#do Tim and Cass know? do they even care? does it bring them closer?#would be so fun. Cass would cling to Tim as her family. finally having family she can love unconditionally#and no one is going to take him from her.#I like making batcest ships actually incest. it's fun to me.#like if antis wanna call it incest then fine. I'll incest it idc#I rlly love incest in fiction I think it explores the most toxic forms of codependency.
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