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starlostlix · 1 year ago
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MTP - Sherlock and William as foils (similarities and differences)
Aka Something interesting I found on a reread of volume 5 (at least that's what it was originally it's developed a little)
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So I was drawn to these pages in Volume 5 in particular because they're surprisingly key to Sherlock's character, and a key reason why that he doesn't necessarily completely disagree with William's points (mostly disagreeing with his methods).
So the reason Sherlock's methods are based on scientific observation is because science is fair to everyone and doesn't need any social context of class or gender or anything like that. And this is because of his own experiences - going to a university 'beyond his status' and seeing many criminal cases where the lower class individual is immediately blamed with inadequate proof. Much as William has also seen such injustice in his life at the orphanage/on the streets, and continues to see from the surrounding noblemen.
He values tradition but still sees it as partially hampering growth and change in the investigative profession. The fact that his brother, Mycroft, is a representative of the monarchy (and so is a representative of tradition) probably only adds to this concept (but what he doesn't know until later is that his brother isn't as against change as he might seem, due to his general 'blind eye' towards and sometimes clear support of the Moriarty plan). Brotherly disagreement on a cultural level and an interesting part of their dynamic, but that's for another post (if i ever finish it).
Sherlock has a motivation (as much as it isn't the main focus of his desire to solve mysteries) to change detective work to be fairer using science. As much as it's on a much smaller scale, he's generally trying to bring change to a system that is unfair and classist. Sound familiar? This sounds similar to William's idea of changing society to make it fairer and less classist.
The fact that Sherlock and Liam, both of whom come from a lower class status/background, strive to make a change and remove class-based prejudices is no accident - it's just more proof that they were never actually enemies. In fact, their motivations only differ by scale, forcefulness and the lengths they are willing to go to achieve them.
The main way that they disagree is the methods of trying to change their target population is the lengths they go. Sherlock, for the most part, doesn't enforce much change - he just proves that his way of solving mysteries is more effecient and more accurate than Scotland Yard and other detectives. Funnily enough, in that field, the only one who can match (or sometimes outdo him) is William, but only because William is willing to go further. In the Two Detectives arc, William strategically places samples of blood on all of the train staff in order to act as more objective proof of the murder accusations. In doing this, he's not fully truthful, but it ensures a fast solution to the case that saves Watson and captures the culprit in time. In essence, William is more calculated and willing to manipulate variables to make the outcome more accurate, whilst Sherlock trusts all the available evidence and utilises that to achieve an accurate outcome.
They both are also not immune to k!lling on behalf of the safety of others. Sherlock murdering Milverton to save Watson's marriage and to get rid of a guy of 'evil incarnate' like Milverton (who has investigated numerous cases relating to) is proof that Sherlock can be pushed into crime to protect others. William takes up crime as a 'means to an end' - partly revenge for the mistreated working class, partly to dismantle the unfair class system. William makes the choice to act as an executioner, but also is willing to suffer to achieve his goal. Sherlock is also willing to suffer misjudgement in using scientific deduction, but he's mainly willing to suffer for the people he cares about most - specifically Watson and William (the man was willing to literally jump off a bridge for William).
Anyways, the point being is that William and Sherlock were never supposed to be opposites or enemies, rather they are more like foils - differing in some key traits to better highlight those parts of their respective characters. And the conversation I pulled from volume 6 helps in directly presenting the similarities between their characters, which also draws further attention to their differing traits and is key for establishing them as foils of each other. I honestly think this is partly what makes their dynamic so interesting - they are similar in enough ways to relate to each other and become friends, but their differences add ways for their characters to clash in the story to make the plot more interesting.
[Anyways I just love how the characters are written in MTP especially Sherlock and William. I've currently got only 2 alevel exams left to do before I've finished college though, and my last exams are on tuesday! I haven't had much time to be online or write about stuff that I want to post so hopefully in about a week or so I can write more/post more. This post was mostly drafted last week when I had a bit of time off, so I might have missed some stuff in rereading before I post lol.]
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idolomantises · 7 months ago
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Man is it just me or are a lot of TV shows nowadays are written to have big emotional episodes in scenes with very little build up.
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moonriase · 2 months ago
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How many units so far? - Four, plus the cell saver. Last one? - I don't know.
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grapejuicegay · 2 years ago
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I haven't got a job. Why not? I think they only want clean people. They haven't taken that thing off yet? It's gone. But I guess some people still see it.
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vinceaddams · 2 months ago
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Thank goodness I have no particular interest in knitting, crocheting, weaving, etc., and am therefore immune to yarn. I'm already plagued enough by the urge to Acquire Fabric, and I can't imagine how much worse it must be for people who both sew and do yarn stuff, and are therefore tempted by both!
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give-grian-rights · 2 years ago
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i just got the vision in my mind of Cleo and Etho having like. like those sliding pronoun pins but instead it has two options and one of them is Divorce and the other is Newly Wed. and they just fucking walk over to eachother and slide it to the other one. sometimes they go on like nothing happened and sometimes they just like. bite each other
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kovir · 2 years ago
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BALDUR'S GATE 3 (2023) dev. Larian Studios "Well—whatever you're into."
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tea-time-terrier · 5 months ago
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Stealing this from a competitive obedience group because the answers have been fascinating. I would love to hear elaborations on methods/reasonings if you're up for it!
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bacchuschucklefuck · 1 year ago
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okay unironically I love so much that porter is like this world SUCKS its BAD here and it HURTS you why do you care abt it!!! and literally every single bad kid is like ngl we just hate ur ass it does not matter what ur philosophy is
#dimension 20#fantasy high junior year#not art#fhjy spoilers#its!!! gods I will Be My Ass in the tags rn. but thats so like. deliciously setting typical#like porter's desire is to transcend and his contempt for the world he's in feels. idk Real#like he plays the game bc he wants to win and be done with it. how do I word this#yknow. being a god would like. be his win state. when he gets that happening thats it his story is done he checks out#meanwhile the bad kids do actually just like playing the game lmao. like they love adventuring!#theyre so solidly Of This World. they carry the values that can only be born of it and they like having mastery over it#its a meta angle that I think is very fun specifically for d20 being in such a unique position in the zeitgeist when it first started#the rat grinders are from DnD Writ Large. porter wants to escape. but this is the bad kids' home its Their Actual Play Show#which makes it so fucking excellent to me that porter's question is somewhat of merit! its their show and it tries very hard to punish them#and they just straight up dont listen to him here lmao bc they hate him but! since the moment the academic track ended its been clear#that they save the world bc they Like Playing. With Each Others#thats what riz thinks the core of adventuring is! thats why fig stayed! and I also think thats why this hovers over elmville now and#a dead god is coming back in the school gym. porter is a shit evangelist but even if hes a good one I dont think it wouldve worked like he#wants it to. the only way he couldve escaped is if he'd not involved elmville at all. thats where the bad kids met dude#its a shitty place that fucks with them but they all come back here bc they wanna play with each others#and in that regard I think thats what the stress tokens ultimately means. Is This Game Still Fun To Play. ITS A RAGEQUIT LIMIT#Im literally running from one end to another of this conspiracy board Ive pulled out of nowhere#Ill draw after this I just wanna get this out. gods this episode has done nothing but furthering my delusion of grandeur actually#Im the hottest smartest manthing on earth Im king fucking midas over here. anyways uh! great ep!
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skitskatdacat63 · 1 year ago
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Vettonso complaining about each other not respecting schrondinger's track limits on the radio compilation + Seb's commentary that made me a bit feral
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Must include these sexy ass pics okay, it makes me feral how hard they race each other.
Also SO upset that we got this vid and there's also pictures(and presumably a vid out there somewhere) of Fernando, back then, ALSO debriefing this race. And yet we never got them together?????? Evil. Fucked up.
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Imagine seeing them complaining about each other but also having to (begrudgingly if you're Fernando) compliment each other IN FRONT of each other. Maybe its a good thing it doesn't exist, bcs then I'd have a heart attack.
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fishareglorious · 2 months ago
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with the fact that limited characters (jiu, lucy, anjo nala, liang yue) are all non-arcanists and there's been rumors hanging around that enigma & ulrich have the same code label that were also the indication for npcs that became playable characters (lucy, kakania), I think bp is building up one of them to become at limited at some point in time.
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s0fter-sin · 6 months ago
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rewatching s1 and in ep2 w*ndigo, dean makes a joke about not bringing provisions into the woods just to pull out a bag of peanut butter m&m’s and stick with me here, it’s why the later seasons’ “goofy dean” loses me
this moment is clearly a joke but if you think about it too much, it also makes some sense; a family size bag of peanut m&m’s is calorie dense and even the high sugar is good to keep you moving which they need on an overnight hunt. it also shows how due to their upbringing, they’ve had to eat lower quality food, things they always had access to that was cheap and also in bulk
what does dean eating ghost pepper jerky then tipping water on himself exist for other than to be a cringy joke? what does smelling old chinese food, testing to see if it's still good then shaking his head with cabbage hanging out his mouth when it isn't serve? it's just to make him look stupid and contrast sam's healthy/clean diet (and superiority but that’s another conversation) which has always existed but it used to be nuanced and natural
we see dean as a child give up the food he wanted to eat so sam could eat it. (“i’m sick of spaghetti-os,” “you’re the one who wanted them,” … “i want lucky charms!” “… there’s only enough for one bowl and i haven’t had any yet!” proceeds to give them to sam, 1x18) we know he hustled and stole food to ensure sam ate. (“so, what’d he take?” “get this- peanut butter and bread.” 9x07)
we also see throughout the early seasons dean teasing sam about his salad or healthy choice while he eats some form of burger or other fast food (or notably, cheerfully eating prison food that sam won’t touch, 2x19). it's typical sibling teasing but it also shows that it isn't new for sam to eat like that and for dean to know he eats like that
sam being picky isn't just a character trait they chose for him, it's a result of how dean raised him; he raised him to like and want healthy food and be food secure enough to reject food he didn't want
but dean eats anything he is given and seeks out unhealthy - cheap, plentiful, filling - food
he is the opposite of picky to the point of it being a consistent bit; they show him multiple times eating when it's socially frowned upon to do so eg. questioning a grieving victim when they're trying to be discreet (1x14, 2x15, 2x18)
a similar moment to the chinese food is in 4x19; dean wakes up in the car while sam brushes his teeth outside and is hungry. sam says there's a sandwich in the backseat, dean smells it and recoils bc it's an old tuna sandwich. the moment is funny on its own but it also exists as a comparison of their lives to adam's; he has a loving mother, goes to school and importantly, a steady stable childhood
it’s a joke with a purpose
it also supports dean's food insecurity; he wakes up and is immediately hungry, enough to complain about it and seek out food before anything else
dean is always hungry bc he never has access to nutritionally rich foods bc he got used to using the money he earned to buy sam's more expensive food. he got used to his cheaper, denser foods and grew up with (and continues to live with) intermittent access to said foods. think of how long it takes to drive from one state to another; how many hours it can take to see another town that offers food, if you arrive at a reasonable enough time for anything to be open. also think how they can’t keep any food beyond what fits in an esky; nothing that needs defrosting, nothing can be heated up. it’s bags and jars and take out for as long as they can trust it
then they get the bunker which has its own kitchen
dean even describes himself as "nesting" when he decorates his room, something he hasn't had since he was four years old, and he uses said kitchen to cook a burger from scratch that he is proud of. he is food secure for the first time in his life and it shows in how often he cooks for both himself and sam
so these moments where they have him acting goofy regarding food are no longer character driven and only exist as a joke which is why they come across as cringy and out of character compared to similar earlier moments
a lot of my issues with dean's characterisation started when they introduced the bunker. the argument can and is made that the reason these jokes happen is bc he feels safe in the bunker, that bc he now has a home he can relax and unmask but that still doesn't feel sufficient. they crank up these sillier moments for both of them, giving them a sort of playing house comedy vibe of two roommates with completely different personalities but it doesn't feel like an authentic progression. it feels forced; an attempt at humour for humour's sake
food stopped being an informed part of their characters and their trauma and instead became flanderised; sam is the judgy vegetarian health nut and dean is his borderline slovenly carnivore counterpart
#12 yr old dean throwing a bag of veggie chips at sams head and saying ‘dont forget your vegetables’ actually makes me want to scream#sam not knowing or not acknowledging how much dean did for him throughout their childhood kills me#hes always saying how bad it was or later on saying at least john did his best#it wouldve been so much worse if dean was just a little more resentful#its not limited to the later seasons ill fully admit that#it literally became a plot point in s7 with the leviathans infecting the corn syrup and dean complaining about eating ‘rabbit food’#bc hes ‘a warrior’ and needs his ‘road food’ while sam brings him to a farmers market#it comes up in at least two seperate episodes and it started to annoy me then too trust me it already felt ooc#its not just food moments either; i hate the food socks and his robe and playing with the sword too#whenever they decide to make him act stupid to help bolster sams smarts and maturity#something that used to be naturally occurring without tearing dean down bc deans smart too and was literally parentified hes plenty mature#the narrative tries so hard to make dean the dumb fighter and sam the book nerd and its such a disservice to both of them#dean isnt an idiot and not just about hunting; he has a favourite author and an encyclopaedic knowledge of music and movies#hes just as learned about sam when it comes to hunting and the show used to have that; even correcting sam and explaining things to him#and sams had plenty of one on one fight scenes AND fight scenes against dean that are almost always draws#you cant show them with this nuance then act like it never existed#i remember bitch#coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt#carry on my wayward son#talk meta to me#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#sam winchester#meta#save post#supernatural meta
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wistfullywaiting2 · 1 year ago
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Odasaku, Sasaki, and the orphanage headmaster are all buried in the same cemetery.
So Kunikida, Atsushi, and Dazai all run into each other grave visiting regularly and politely pretend they don’t. They never acknowledge the meaning behind the bouquets brought, even if all of them know the others know flower language. They never acknowledge the tear streaks down Atsushi’s face, or the solemn look on Kunikida’s. Atsushi never points out how the scent of whiskey is always a bit stronger on Dazai’s coat. They never acknowledge the location of their accidental meetings.
Sometimes Kunikida might offer to take them to get food, or Atsushi will offer a random hard candy from his pocket, on colder days Dazai might lend his coat. None of them are really themselves when faced with grief, and none of them will to hold it against each other.
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just-sp-in-inginthevoid · 26 days ago
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Couldn't the fact X is so powerful be - at least partially - because he doesn't have any hero name (as for now at least). If everyone knows him as X, and everyone believes and trusts in the idea that is Hero X; then his trust value could come from that lack of name? Previous Xs had other hero name like Smile or E-Soul. But if X never gave himself a name OR was never given a name by his believers, then whoever believes in X(again, as a concept, not as who is currently Hero X) or the very idea of hero existence period gives him power. I wonder if that can't be a way he found to cheat the system or sth akin to that...
His powers would be lying in the very fact everyone believes anyone can become a hero. He's a nobody - technically speaking. no name, actual commoner life, ...
Alternatively, he started it all by calling himself X from the start and so anyone believing in any of the current X (until and also including himself) also believed in him whether they knew it or not? more skeptical about that idea ngl
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crypticscarecrow · 29 days ago
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Learning about impressionist painting fr be changing my perspective live on painting cuz wdym the literal art style I enjoy was also a symbol and concept for rebellious painting in its time?
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THE WAYSIDE CROSS, AUTUMN - Clarence Gagnon 1916
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seaofreverie · 4 months ago
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One year ago I made this lil comic about being aromantic, based on the lyrics of Eaten By The Monster Of Love! I meant to post it on the anniversary of me making it but I missed the day, oops... so today felt like a fitting alternative :3
Happy Valentine's Day!! Whether you were eaten by the monster of love or not, I hope you have a fun day today!
#i am very attached to this drawing because it was the first digital thing i drew in a long time#(and whatever i made before this was just aimless doodles at best anyway) so when i finished this and was actually happy with it#it was such a momentous occasion. like looking at it and thinking wow i actually like this a lot#so without it i don't think i really would have picked up digital drawing. definitely made me feel much more secure in my artsing abilities#and i made it with the intent of submitting it to this one publication / zine that i just miraculously learned about#so that's why it's important that i liked it enough to want to show it to anyone#the theme was to do something that combines the themes of queerness and horror / monsters etc#and another limitation was to use only these two exact colors that you see here. also i drew all of this with mouse only#because i didn't have my drawing tablet on that day (not that i even used it much before this) and was running out of time to submit it lol#so yeah thinking about monsters and how i could mix that with being aspec is how the idea was born#i still remember the thrill of coming up with this and thinking YES i could make this... theoretically... screw it i will really try.!!!#so yep my submission was accepted. even without that i still liked it but when i learned about this it was such a WHAT!!!!??? moment#someone out there saw my drawing and liked it enough to have it printed next to the works of all these other artists...#and now more people are going to see it too. and that is so wonderful. huge moment all in all one of the best defining moments of last year#my art#sparks#sparks band#ray the cat#(her look has changed a bit since heh)
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