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Anyone here who’s attending Eras Tour at SG? ☺️
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Moonstone ✨✨
#the eras taylor swift#taylor swift#taylorswift#eras toronto#the eras tour#eras tour#erast#the eras era#eras taylor swift#taylorlurking#taylornation#swifties#midnight blue#midnights#taylorlove#taylorswiftlyrics#i love you taylor#lover#blogger
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the fact that nobody on classic tumblr ever brought up the allegedly incestuous (and most likely defamatory) affair alcibiades had with his uncle truly shows you how you can never rely on anybody to get κικι material for the ame
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ur rosekillers height difference is so right. u just get it
barty isn't truly barty to me unless he's Lanking around all over the place.... long and mean and lean like a hyena. just unnecessarily tall. like one of those 7ft animatronic skeletons they stick outside the home depot on halloween
#a#i dont think i actually see evan that short in my head (5'9 sounds right). but i NEED to draw all my ships with fetishistic size difference#my yaoi is perpetuating the eromenos & erastes of ancient greece
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when both of the fictional guys are completely and entirely grown-ass adults but the older one still calls the younger one boy. 10/10. Yessss call that 40 year old man a "cunning boy" and invoke some aesthetic spiritual echo of the eromenos but without the alarming aspects
#hannigram#obviously#but also i see a lot of fics where Xie Lian calls Hua Cheng “sweet boy” and it is such a perfect gentle dom thing#hualian#also in my head Mycroft calls Albert “good boy” sometimes but I think that's just a me thing lmao#mycal#look hannigram are textually doing some sort of fucked up murder erastes/eromenos thing. this is canon i don't make the rules
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ancient greek guy complaining about the erastes shortage
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Absolutely death gripped clenched trying not to comment on reductive posts on ancient greek homosexual relationships
#It is neither wholly '0mg two gay guys in love!!' and 'I am humiliating and debasing a lower man by making a woman out of him'#There's heavy elements of that in how they conceptualized penetrator vs penetrated but the erastes (lover/protector) and eromenos (beloved)#relationship was significantly more complex than that#Like it is conceptualized as sort of a mentor/mentee relationship and a positive element for an adolescent's development#It was the subject of romantic plays and you get things like people in antiquity in heated debates over who is the#erastes and who is the eromenos between Achilles and Patroclus (to better depict them in plays)#The bottom line is more 'the socially accepted m/m relationships were (what we would now consider) an adult and a child#(or young man) with the age difference being a fundamental element to the dynamic.'#And more broadly being penetrated in sex assigned a 'lower' or 'womanly' role and it would not be conventionally accepted#for an older/more socially powerful man to recieve penetration (which certainly DID happen though)#So absolutely a moment in the history of male homosexuality and not something to just go 'ew ew bad evil ewwie' about but also#not something you want to project modern conceptions of LGBT identity upon#Also we know relatively little about relationships between women in ancient Greece due to lack of sources due to being a#highly patriarchal culture but we can't actually know that they did not involve similar power dynamic#Certainly not to the same extent or in such a well socially defined way (bc they conceptualize sex almost entirely through a lens of#penetration) but I think you should be treating relations between ancient Greek women with the same degree of#historical distance from our lives and identities today.#Ok death grip failed I just typed an entire rant. Fiuck it
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someone should've told me how funny plato's symposium is years ago this man takes a half page tangent to do top/bottom discourse on patrochilles for absolutely no reason other than to say fuck you to a playwright
#litchi.txt#the neural networks professor was 40 minutes late as per usual so I decided to start reading#I was in tears for most of it its so funny#'achilles was the beloved for he was the fairest of the greeks and also younger as homer says and to say otherwise is foolish'#'aeschylus is an idiot for saying he was the erastes he was the eromenos CHANGE MY MIND anyways-'#also the whole bit about 'consensual slavery' plato was a service top convince me otherwise#half the time i kept thinking about how this was 99% the book mary renault references in fire from heaven#like. alexander the great read this thing#he probably told his boyfriend that#hephaistion blacked out from pure lust when he heard those words#im normal i promise
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Modern top/bottom discourse is just the Pederasty discourse from 500 BC repackaged without the glaring (and disturbing) age differences.
This is what Plato would have wanted
#no serious Plato has a dialogue where he's like obviously Patriculous was the erastes I said what I said#but any person who thinks it make any of the HETEROSEXUAL is a fucking moron#as is anyone who thinks it's about whether Sirius Black wears skirts or eyeliner#let the man wear skirts you fucking cowards
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the fujoshi spirit is truly unbreakable
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ITS GRAPHITE 🖤🤍🩶
TORONTO NIGHT 1

#taylorswift#taylor swift style#taylorswiftlyrics#taylor swift#the eras tour#the eras taylor swift#the eras era#eras tour#erast#eras taylor swift#taylorlurking#taylornation#swifties#taylorlove#i love you taylor#lover#blogger#ts ttpd#ttpd era#icdiwabh#ttpd#taylor swift ttpd#ttpd the anthology#ttpd set
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Eras Tour - August 7, 2023 | Los Angeles, California
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Elio's First Kiss 🍑💦
Skandar Keynes🇱🇧
the Erastes, Lebanese


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Alexander Amin Casper Keynes
ألكسندر أمين كاسبر كينز
was born 5 September 1991 in London, Greater London, England, United Kingdom🏴🇬🇧
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My lovemaking experience began when I was 9th years old, in 2010. I received a kiss from a man's lips for the first time at that age. The man who crushed my lips was a 17 years old teenager. His name is Skandar.
with horny,
Elio the Eromenos ° . ♡
at 9 nine years old, 2010
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Virgoan 💃
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So I made a guy and people in a discord server simp for him???
I created him entirely on accident btw
I made him by just mind going blank and scribbling
he's insane and stinky
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sabrina carpenter via instagram
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This is a post just about my thoughts about Luca Guadagnino and Timmy and others. It's just personal musings, feel free to ignore and keep scrolling if it's not for you. Or block if you feel the need.
The thing about Luca and Timothee is, so there are scenes in CMBYN where Timmy is naked and we see his ass. Not full-frontal but he is naked. And we see him walking around like that. Now, that is pleasurable for viewers, for us, for certainly the many gay men watching the film, and there is nothing wrong with that, I want to make that clear. I don't find anything wrong for example, with an older gay man desiring a younger man. I do not equate pederasty with paedophilia, absolutely not, they are not the same thing. I am not attacking the relationship between an erastes (the older male) and his eromenos (younger male). I understand the nature of that relationship. Therefore I understand gay men coming to this film and getting pleasure out of seeing Timothee Chalamet playing a 17-year-old and being butt naked. Timothee is an erastes' wet dream, that is just a fact. Nothing wrong in it, I'm sure Timothee must be well aware of it. So the thing is, Luca chose to have Timothee nude in the film. That was his choice. This is where it starts to get complicated. Timothee's body was used to create that desire in Luca's audience. Luca was selling his eromenos to an audience of eraste, particularly men who had lived through the 80s and been either Elio's age at the time or Oliver's. Timothee walking around nude is a great incentive for them to watch the film, and also the peach fucking and the blow-job scene etc. Now put that in the context of a long warm summer amongst the trees of Northern Italy, good food, good wine, books and learning, cultured people and it all seems very romantic and sweet, innocent even. And it is, the film is all of those things, that's what makes it great art. But the relationship still exists between Luca and Timmy, that Luca sold Timmy's body and Timmy consented. I'm not saying there is necessarily anything wrong with that, I'm not on some moral rampage, and the film was not overtly sexual but more an exploration of desire, you can't fault the film on that, it was done very well, but that relationship exists. And it's there again in Bones and All in the field scene, I mean any eraste would look at Timmy in that scene and get aroused. It was a very sexy scene, Timmy is a very sexy guy, he can turn that on when he needs to, and he was really sexy in that film in lots of different ways, overtly and in more vulnerable and intimate ways-it was the only good thing about the film. What's the point I'm trying to make? Well there isn't one, I guess.
Luca brushed AH's accusations away and now he is directing a film based on a book written by a man who thinks AH is innocent (Bret Easton Ellis), and that book is pretty misogynistic in a good old fashioned 80s way, see previous post. I just feel like something aint right there. It just does not sit right with me.
#cmbyn#luca guadagnino#timothee chalamet#timothée chalamet#armie hammer#eraste#eromenos#ancient greek culture#lgbtq+#pederasty#bret easton ellis#the shards
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