#episode ignis verse 2

[lunarlegend]

okay, now i've fully played through Verse 2 with the subtitles mod. and while i enjoyed it much more now that Ignis doesn't sound yandere for his brother, i still don't think it makes sense. and i know it doesn't technically have to, since it's meant to be an alternate ending anyway, but.

i dislike how quickly and seamlessly it goes from Point A to Point B. that's something the canon game already struggled with, and Verse 2 is even worse. in this ending, the events of Episode Prompto never happened. that's a whole chunk of the game that's straight-up missing. but more importantly, Verse 2 erases Noct's character development.

it's a huge deal for Noctis to slowly start to grow up and accept his responsibilities throughout the second half of the main game. and it takes more than just the Train Scene to do it...it's also dealing with Prompto getting kidnapped, being separated from his friends, losing his father's car, etc. there are several events that all build on each other, resulting in Noctis being truly alone for the first time in practically his whole life, with nothing to protect him but the Ring he initially refused to wear.

that's a lot.

and none of it happens in Verse 2.

in the alternate ending, there is no train ride after Altissia. there is no argument, no reason for Gladio to push Noctis into accepting his role, because the catalyst for that (Ignis going blind) didn't happen. no appearance from Luna's spirit, no visit to Tenebrae, no traumatic journey to find Prompto. none of it.

if Verse 2 were to be believed, that would mean that Noctis (after years of relying on others and a history of not wanting to embrace his royal duties) is now showing up, directly to Zegnautus, and immediately saying "I'm sorry. I was weak." before willingly stepping right into the Crystal. and that just doesn't make sense to me at all.

i still believe it is Ignis' fantasy. it's the version of Noctis he never got to know. the one who recognizes everyone's sacrifices and has the self-awareness to make the right choices without having to be pushed. in the canon storyline, we don't get to see this Noctis until the night before the final battle. and it makes more sense to me that Ignis would want to imagine a world like that, than believing Noctis as a character could just do a complete 180 in maturity in such a short amount of time.

also, i continue to find the final scene of Noctis on the throne to be very unsettling.

the room is completely empty and has a distinct blueish tone that makes it seem cold (as opposed to other scenes featuring the Citadel's throne room, where there are people and you can see warm light streaming through). it is silent. even Ignis' words are silent. and Noctis looks far too serious.

i don't think it's really Noctis at all.

[haomnyangz]

FFXV CHAPTER 10: The Heart of a King EPISODE IGNIS CHAPTER 3 VERSE 2: Possibilities

[hiddeneosbymrsflowerpot]

Fans of Final Fantasy XV will be all too familiar with Ignis's facial scars after he puts on the Ring of Lucis and sacrifices his sight to save Noctis. As well as the scars on his left eye and right eybrow he also has scars on the bridge of his nose and his lower lip. I was going through some old screenshots of Episode Ignis when I noticed that immediately after his fight with Ardyn he doesn't have any marks on his nose or lower lip. He does, however, gain those scars in Verse 2 when he follows Ardyn, but that ending is not canon and he wouldn't end up with those scars later in the main game. I'm sure I'm not the first to spot this discrepancy and as Ignis is my favourite character I'm surprised I didn't notice it sooner.

All images copyright Square Enix Co Ltd.

[pokejedi6]

Played episode ignis + verse 2 a couple days ago, have a drawing for it.

[unrealityshift]

{full view for details} episode ignis, specifically verse 2, summarized

[ao3feed-ignoct]

First Light

read it on AO3 Here

by kickcows

Noctis returns from the Crystal, and sets out to finish the fight with his friends by his side.

Words: 2432, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Final Fantasy XV

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Categories: M/M

Characters: Noctis Lucis Caelum, Ignis Scientia, Chocobros (Final Fantasy XV)

Relationships: Noctis Lucis Caelum/Ignis Scientia

Additional Tags: Established Relationship, Sexual Content, Making Love, Angst and Feels, minor angst with a happy ending, Episode Ignis Verse 2

read it on AO3 Here

[elizabethvonbean]

It is 2023 media thread time!

Here we go!!!!

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Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Super Scribblenauts

Scribblenauts Unlimited

Lil Gator Game

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Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe

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The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Manga)

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Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix

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Kingdom Hearts Re:coded

Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance

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Kingdom Hearts III + Re:Mind

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Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Future Redeemed

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Super Smash Bros. Brawl

The Super Mario Bros. Movie

Final Fantasy XV

Final Fantasy XV: Episode Gladiolus

Final Fantasy XV: Episode Prompto

Final Fantasy XV: Episode Ignis

Final Fantasy XV: Episode Ardyn

Napoleon Dynamite

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Pikmin

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Mega Man

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Ikachan

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Undertale Yellow (Pacifist Route)

Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered

Pokémon Violet

Super Mario World (TV Series)

Final Count: 69

2023 Media Tier List

[ffxvficrec]

by Bleed_Peroxide Noctis missed the bashful creature that had taken him stargazing when they were small boys, or blushed when Noctis held his hand, oblivious in his innocence, and told him how beautiful his music was. Hearing the music made him feel as though he could feel the velvet of the piano bench, the weight of Ignis's body pressed against him as he swayed in time to the music. He was a prince, and betrothed at that; that was all that he would ever have of Ignis, no matter how much more his traitorous heart wanted. These were pleasant reminders... good memories. Day #6: Music Words: 3466, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English Series: Part 6 of XVtober 2024 Fandoms: Final Fantasy XV Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M Characters: Noctis Lucis Caelum , Ignis Scientia , dead regis Relationships: Noctis Lucis Caelum/Ignis Scientia Additional Tags: Post-Episode Ignis Verse 2 , Noctis Lucis Caelum Lives , Love Confessions , First Kiss , Pianist Ignis Scientia , XVtober (Final Fantasy XV) , Post-World of Ruin | The Long Night (Final Fantasy XV) , Sort-Of Confession (they don't SAY it)

[caseofthestolenspecs]

Questions! 1) Are you a megane IRL? 2) Do you enjoy other FF games, or just XV? 3) Do you prefer the Ep Ignis ending, or the main ending to their story? 4) Who do you ship Ignis with the most, if at all? 5) What's your favorite color? 6) Has anything come out recently you really enjoyed?

Ahhhhh YAY thank you so much for sending me an ask! I'm excited!!

1) Are you a megane IRL?

Sort of?? I'd always wanted glasses and got my wish a few years ago! I'm a bit farsighted (objects turn blurry once they get a few inches close to my face) so I typically only wear glasses when I am focusing on screens (such as my computer monitor, TV or phone), otherwise I don't need them and can see quite well. But does this classify me as an Official Megane™? I guess so, since there is usually a screen involved in my day to day life. 😂

2) Do you enjoy other FF games, or just XV?

While XV is my favourite for a majority of reasons, I've played and enjoyed quite a few other FF games over the years! I especially love 6, 7 and 9. My favourite RPG series are actually non-FF though!

3) Do you prefer the Ep Ignis ending, or the main ending to their story?

I assume you mean the "Verse 2" ending of Episode Ignis when you say the Episode Ignis ending - and the answer is… I like both of them, but ultimately I prefer the main ending of the game. I love a good tragedy (as much as it makes my heart hurt!!) and there is beauty in it through the tears. However, I am also not opposed to the idea of "happy, everyone lives" AUs, which Verse 2 delivers quite nicely, so I can enjoy it purely in a "what if" scenario.

4) Who do you ship Ignis with the most, if at all?

Prompto of course!! The Promnis pairing has had me in a chokehold since the game first came out and it's still going strong. It's the main pairing that I write (ha… writing.. what's that…?? 💦💦) and just the mere mention of it evokes strong emotions in me to this day. I won't write an essay here, but I do think they are perfect for each other in every way.

5) What's your favorite color?

Purple! My phone is purple, my bedspread is purple, my childhood room was purple, my hair has been dyed purple multiple times…. if I could have everything be purple, it would be. It's such a happy colour.

6) Has anything come out recently you really enjoyed?

Video game-wise, there have been SO many. My favourite game of all time is Super Mario RPG for the SNES, and when the remake for the Switch was announced I actually cried watching the trailer. Playing it was absolute perfection and I couldn't have asked for anything more! More recently though, I played through Sea of Stars (AMAZING GAME I loved the heck out of it) and just finished Little Kitty Big City, which was a super cute delight!

[lunarlegend]

"That's right.

A man who was supposed to be the King of Lucis, until my younger brother killed me."

[dbphantom]

10, 36 and 44 from the fanfic writer game . Hope you enjoy your day!

Thank you so much!! Right back at you!

10) In your xxx fic, why did you decide to end it like that? Did you have an alternative ending in mind?

Oooh, loaded question! For Alkali, I chose to follow the episode Noctis ending bc I always wanted them to have a happy ending and, honestly, I just thought the book/planned ending was really good. I changed a few things to fit the focus of the story better, but overall it's the episode Noctis ending. As for the changes, you know that one scene in the last episode of H2O Season 1 where Rikki steps into the ocean? Yeah. It's a little like that.

For alt. endings, I'm not the biggest fan of the verse 2 ending from episode Ignis, but [BUT] with a couple big changes I thought it made for a fun detour with the same episode Noctis ending. It actually ended up becoming the 'main' timeline for this fic because I was having so much fun with it. I fit in the events of Episode Prompto, plus Ravus and Aranea team up with the chocobros to navigate through Zegnaurbfjflhs Keep and shut down the wall breaker wave machine. So, Ignis still puts on the ring and loses his sight and Prompto still takes down worm Verstael, it all just happens a little out of order and in new fun and exciting locations. [Verstael, to Ardyn: would you still love me if I was a worm?]

So the other timeline I had was Leviathan taking her payment early during the events of Episode Ignis, leaving Iggy with no memories of Noct to keep him from acting irrationally next time. It ends poorly. It's me, boy, I'm the sea godess, speaking to you from inside your brain. Listen to me, boy, lead the prince, to the crystal. Then come with me and guard this space. We'll have mermaid times. On Eos! Do do da do, yeah. You need me, boy. Your free will is an illusion.

36) Can you give us a spoiler for one of your WIP’s?

Yesssss, I would love to!!! I'm having such a hard time deciding which fic to choose because I love everything, but you know what? Surprise attack!!! Here's an excerpt from chapter 10 of Masked, my genrex secret identity fic.

"... I wasn't with Noah for half of the classes I went to, but I aced a pop quiz the trigonometry teacher gave us!"

Holiday's heart ached. This was the sort of stuff he should be talking about on a daily basis, not EVOs or training or which painkillers worked best before his nanites neutralized them. He reminded her so much of Beverly in that moment, excitedly going on about her day at school and the things she'd learned to her big sister in college. She wanted to do nothing more than hug him and tell him everything was going to be okay, that the adults were going to handle it all from now on and he didn't need to worry.

But Providence wasn't so kind.

Thankfully, Holiday was, and she was fiercely stubborn to boot. The one thing she wanted to do in that exact moment was protect that innocent smile on Rex's face, and she was going to do her damndest to try.

44) What is the last line you wrote?

Prompto's fumbling the reload, electric panic surging through his veins.

Uh oh... This is from the area right before Keycatrich. Cor's around, so they'll be okay XD

[ffxvremix]

No Archive Warnings Apply | Noctis Lucis Caelum/Ignis Scientia | Angst and Hurt/Comfort | Post-Canon | Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence | Episode Ignis Verse 2 | Dreams | Pining | Alternate Universe | Referenced Suicide Attempt | Angst with a Happy Ending | Canonical Past Character Death | Non-Explicit Sex | References to Depression

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Creators for the remix will be revealed on December 4th!

[lunarlegend]

i can't entertain any alternate reality where Ignis is dead or in a coma because it upsets me too much, but the rest, absolutely!

my other huge gripe with Verse 2 is that it robs us of the character development that pushed Noctis to the point where he could appreciate his friends. having Ignis willingly go to Zegnautus right from Altissia cuts out the train ride and makes Episode Prompto and all we learn about Prompto's backstory nonexistent. and that includes Noctis' reactions to almost losing him.

i also enjoy Noct's route of Chapter 13, because it feels so real (i do love the Gladnis route as well of course, but i appreciated the original path so much the first time i played).

and it's wonderful to hear insight from someone who understands spoken Japanese, because while i pick up words and phrases in the audio, i can't always grasp the nuances as a non-fluent speaker. hearing your opinions on the original vs. the localization has been great!

the thing you mentioned in the comments of my post about how rude Noctis is to Ignis in Japanese after Ignis' sacrifice, i love that you brought that up because it's a huge reason why i struggle to believe Verse 2 is anything more than Ignis' fantasy.

in Verse 2, the Noctis who shows up and willingly goes into the Crystal is so out of character compared to how Noctis acts up until that point. upon seeing Ignis' sacrifice, he's mature, apologetic, and self-aware (unlike the Noctis of the canon timeline, who reacts like he does in Chapter 10).

i can't even imagine how deeply it hurt Ignis to be treated the way he was in canon, which is why it makes sense to me that Ignis would imagine a version of the story where Noctis appreciates him and his sacrifice actually fixed everything.

Ohh im pretty sure it is a fantasy/non canon.

I think it was square pressure to give the fans an alternate happy ending, cause at the time so many pple were pissed at the ending(even though i thout it was good)

My headcanon for verse 2 is that ignis is either in a coma from the ring or straight up dead and that's his version of heaven.

Cause they never actually said its canon or anything, its literally a fanservice ending(also fair for the players who perfected the combat and beat ardyn under a certain time), so its nothing more than square's trophy for good job.

Also noctis change of hear happens at the end of chapter(i think 13, the one when you have nothing but the ring)

I think him being separated and powerless was the last straw that made him realise that hey, he do care about pple, and that he wanna be better. Thats why even though everyone hate this chapter, i love it(and love that they gave us the gladnis alternate in an update)

But id recommend playing the original route first especially for jap players.

Actually when they lose prompto is when the spark starts, cause he realise that his anger and hatred blinded him not to notice that he tricked him, and he hurt prompto(also in the eng version its not so obvious but in the jap its pretty obvious that he realised what he did when it happened).

So yeah over all the localization was really bad, to the point the story lost sometimes its sharp points.

But hey at least the localization in ffxvi is *chef kiss*

(no literally its the first time ever i played a square enix game in eng dub. I started the demo in jap and something felt off, like when i hear the eng ffxv dub wrong, idk how they did it but in jap its so cringe i had to bite the bullet and put on the eng dub, i hate it cause its medieval english too, so i find myself reaching dictionary often, but hey at least it betters my english😂)

[thesean]

[lulu2992]

Today is April 30!

Happy Birthday, Ardyn Lucis Caelum 🖤

You’re one of the best characters ever created.

[ao3feed-ignoct]

When Our Gazes met

read it on AO3 Here

by MrsMneme

Prince Noctis Lucis caelum and his advisor, Ignis Scientia, were childhood friends. On a summer afternoon, Noctis could feel some changes in their gazes. As time went by, he also felt some changes in their behaviors and their feelings.

Words: 0, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Final Fantasy XV

Rating: General Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: M/M

Characters: Noctis Lucis Caelum, Ignis Scientia

Relationships: Noctis Lucis Caelum/Ignis Scientia

Additional Tags: Brotherhood: Final Fantasy XV, Episode Ignis Verse 2, Friends to Lovers, Art with story, Ignoct Gift Exchange 2023 (Final Fantasy XV)

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