#epic thunder bringer

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Eurylochus held true to Odysseus' words about love, and nobody really acknowledges it.

They are perfect foil for each other.

Odysseus' struggle to keep his crew alive and ultimately ends in their deaths and his fleet's destruction.

Eurylochus' struggle to keep Odysseus alive and the crew safe ultimately ends in his brother being stabbed and heart break.

Every song and scene they have together has them take separate paths to try to reach their results.

"Remember Them" — Odysseus is filled with pain and haunting memories, and Eurylochus tries harder to tell his captain to be cautious because he saw what happened. They're hurting. This pain will manifest in two different ways.

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"Luck Runs Out" — Odysseus is blind to his own arrogance and overconfidence while Eurylochus, singing for himself and the crew, reminds him that the powers above are dangerous. The captain sees this as mild insubordination; Eurylochus sees it as the only way to be able to express his concern but agrees to stop publicly doubting his king.

"You rely on wit and then men die on it" = why can't you see that you are not the "neither man or mythical" you claim to be

"Puppeteer" — Eurylochus finally starts a song, a significant development, to confess something to his king because he knows what he has done wrong and wants to be honest and upfront. Odysseus dismisses him due to the problems in his mind and what he thinks is priority. The second-in-command knows how saving people always seems to go and tries to sway Odysseus to cut off the metaphorical lizard tail. Odysseus is haunted by the deaths that have already occurred and wants to hold onto any crew member that he can.

"There's no length I wouldn't go if it was you I had to save. I can only hope you'd do the same." He does not know that Eurylochus being able to doubt him so much and remind him of mortality is him sticking his neck out. He's closer to Odysseus and has a tighter bond, but he can still be punished for lack of obedience. He breaks the rules for Odysseus, and all the man sees is a rule-breaker due to familiarity. He's doing the same every time he speaks.

"It's a game of wits, but you don't have to play" = reminder, Ody, that we can leave and keep trying

(In between) Notice we don't hear Eurylochus as a strong voice w/ the crew since Odysseus hushed him on Circe's Island. I believe this is significant. He doesn't speak until he can reveal his sins.

"Scylla" — Eurylochus can finally let the news off of his chest, but unfortunately for him, three songs ago his captain decided to become a monster. Odysseus, betrayed already and knowing he must sacrifice six men includes his right hand in the torchbearers lineup, but someone steals the torch. This series of actions has Eurylochus suspect/know the plot while noticing his captain did nothing but resign himself.

"Leaving them feeling betrayed, breaking the bonds that you've made..." A double meaning. The right-hand left his captain feeling betrayed. The king left his brother-in-law feeling betrayed. The entire crew is in pain and has had enough.

Note: All of Scylla's lines have multiple meanings, but I'll be here all night if I try to dissect each one in this post.

"Mutiny" — The sacrifice is the final straw for Eurylochus. He held back before because Odysseus' goal was to keep them alive and go home, but there's none of that here. He demands an answer but cannot be given one. With regret, he does the only thing he can think and fights Odysseus, hoping to beat him and make him finally come off his high horse or false near-god ideology or beat sense into him at the very least.

Zoom to the future, Eurylochus cannot lead the men on his own with his own will and has lost hope. Odysseus begs him not to make any rash decision, but he kills the cow of the sun god and shocks himself out of the depressed and desperate haze he was in.

"Don't make me fight you, brother, you know you'd have done the same" = if you were in my position, would you not sacrifice for my sister?

"If you want all the power, you must carry all the blame" = you cannot appeal to my empathy to cover up your mistakes anymore, brother

"I'm just a man." It's ironic that the only time he uses this line for himself reflects Odysseus' blindness in a different way. He speak almost like he's in a trance and is driven by his instincts. Odysseus says he's just a man to protest his emotions and needs and ultimate choice to throw away lives because he needs his goal. Though many comment jokingly on Eurylochus not deserving this line, I think this is his own way of being shown to connect to his captain before the shit drops.

"Thunder Bringer" — Eurylochus says the least during this song. His solitary lines are calling for his captain, his brother, his friend one last time and admitting to himself and Odysseus the inevitability of his choice he already knows is chosen. In Neal Illustrator's depiction of this particular song, it shows the crew surging forward at the betrayal as Eurylochus stays behind with a lost and broken look. That hurt resignation is the last thing we see from Eurylochus for the rest of the musical.

Oh my gods, these are the perfect antagonist and protagonist duo, and I love them together dearly.

[anniflamma]

I had some wild ideas, like having Zeus take the form of the cattle that Eurylochus killed, imagine a decapitated bull running around with blood gushing. But I decided to keep it more normal…

Either way, I’ve started working on Thunder Bringer again, folks!

[beetlewine-art]

Epic!Hera having a Groovy 70/80's aesthetic is something i really love, since i'm used to seen her being despicted as a very regal goddess, so seen her dancing and posing in the animatic of God Games was a pretty funny and original to me.

Crazy thing is that is not even the first time i see Hera with this type of vibe, since Destripando la Historia used the song "Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!" by ABBA as inspiration for Hera's song, wich was released in 1979 and is very catchy and upbeat song. I guess musicians just read about Hera and somehow get very Grooby vibes from her.

Art belonging to: @anniflamma

[l-bubee-l]

Cloudy with a chance of bitch.

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[stufftoinspiremetowrite]

I headcannon that Zeus thought Athena was going to try to usurp him.

She comes to ask him to undo his latest decree, and if he does it looks like he's yielding to her. So he sets up what's supposed to be an impossible challenge.

Aphrodite hates Athena, Ares hates Athena, Hera hates Athena and Odysseus.

And then she wins. These other gods are all agreeing with her over him and that's dangerous. He thinks he's moments away from becoming his father.

So a show of force was necessary, in his mind, to remind everyone who's in charge here. "Show them I'm the judgment call, the one who makes the kingdom fall"

He sees her as a threat and a Warrior, using her previous connection to Odysseus as an excuse to fight him. His cleverest, most dangerous child who has never agreed with his methods was finally going to kill him.

So he struck her into the ground. True nature will be revealed, right? Wrong.

She looks up at Zeus and begs, something no god ever does, begs that he won't kill her friend. And suddenly she looks more like his daughter than she does like a threat. Suddenly shame turns to regret.

Another thing a god is never supposed to do.

[willthespy]

the real bae vs bay

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[very-gay-poet]

okay but like when Eurylochus said "but we'll die" in thunder bringer he wasn't begging for life (he said it himself, for a while now has he not believed they'd get home so that's why he's done what he's done, he hasn't explicitly said he wants to die but its pretty clear he doesn't mind dying at this point) or trying to reason with Odysseus because he knew exactly who Odysseus was going to choose. If he was going to die, he wanted to hear Odysseus admit that he was about to kill his entire crew on purpose with full knowledge. I draw to this conclusion from Mutiny:

"Tell me you did not know that would happen/ Tell me you didn't know how that would end"

he was making sure that Ody admitted that he has thought this through, and knows what the consequences of his actions are gonna be. no lying to anymore Gods on why he did what he did, no lying to Eurylochus's waiting wife that "he had no choice", because he has. He just doesn't like the fact he can chose.

With Poseidon killing his crew, he could argue that he had nothing to do with it, that he didn't know that it would happen and I think Eurylochus being the first person to talk in Mutiny and to say that, suggests that its what Odysseus had told the remainder of the crew after Poseidon. He had no idea that it would happen (didn't know that the Cyclops was a kid of Poseidon and telling his name and letting him live would doom the crew) and had no idea how it could've ended (Poseidon killing the crew in result) all to protect Odysseus's conscience.

Same with the infant, it wasn't much of a choice, let the baby live and protect his conscience, or doom his entire kingdom, crew and future. He could've argued that he was taking orders from Zeus and that he couldn't ignore the king of the gods. Just a Man is literally that. He's just a man, he's not a god, just taking orders from one, he had no power in this situation and didn't get a choice.

But now he has. and Eurylochus is going to make him admit it so everyone knows, so that Odysseus never forgets that he had a choice.

and Odysseus grants that wish, it isn't a coincidence that that's Eurylochus's last words, in his life and in the show, in Odysseus granting him his wish, he can finally die in peace. And Odysseus grants the wish because he is looking right at them as they die, he sees the light leave their eyes; he can't lie about this one and he won't. That's the last thing Eurylochus ever said to him, and the guilt would eat him alive if he lied about what happened.

No protecting your conscience now Ody, about time you took accountability for all the deaths that happened on this journey.

[axt-bs]

The Thunder Bringer

[randomhuman45]

[featherstorm2004]

Look I'm just saying that if I was Odysseus and I just found out that my right hand man, the only saving grace of my DUMBASS crew opened the wind bag and destroyed all of our progress and threw us into Poseidon's clutches who then proceeded to kill hundreds of men!!!

I'd have let him die too!

And that's not brining up all the dumb shit the crew did like trusting Circe and then killing Apollo's cattle KNOWINGLY, the last part being spearheaded by said right hand man. I'm just saying Odysseus cut his losses there.

[ramen8008]

Ody: deep down I'd trade the world to see my son and wife

Zeus, looking down: you know what'd be really funny but even more fucked up?

[mmmgert]

Perimedes after Thunder Bringer:

[anniflamma]

Why am I animating a brid?

WHY AM I ANIMATING A BIRD?!

[chatnoirebene]

Modern styled Zeus

[nyssasatelier]

Since people like my Aeolus design, here's my version of Zeus:

Thunderbringer~ here to ring your ears 'til you're deaf with fear and spear you while your death is near~

And without the clouds:

[stufftoinspiremetowrite]

I could be wrong, but when Athena gets beat up in god games and you see the other gods she argued with reacting, you didn't see Hephaestus. I might have missed him but if he really was gone, I headcannon he left as soon as Athena "beat" him. Hera threw him off mount Olympus as soon as he was born. He has no love for his mother or father and knows they have no love for their children. Athena isn't even Hera's. He knew how the conflict was going to end before it even started and he couldn't stand to watch it.