#ellyn tarbeck

[racefortheironthrone]

Why do you think the Westerlands Houses answered Tywin’s summons to crush the Reynes and Tarbecks? He wasn’t the Lord of Casterly Rock or acting lord like Robb they had no obligation to answer his call to arms. Hell if anything Tywin was launching a silent coup against his father when he decided to wage war against the Reynes and Tarbecks.

There's two main reasons:

Tywin is still the heir to Casterly Rock - and is effectively the acting lord, since Tytos hadn't countermanded his actions (as he had done in the past) and had mostly ceased to actively govern without appointing anyone else to rule in his stead - and thus the lords are going to want to be on his good side for when he does inherit the title.

More importantly, the Reynes and Tarbecks had fucked with the other Lesser Houses as well as House Lannister. The landed knights and lords whose lands Walderan Tarbeck had seized by force? House Marbrand, who had lost their lord and hundreds of their men to Roger Reyne's ambush? House Prester, who had had two of their sons kidnapped by Ellyn Tabreck? All the landed knights and Lesser Houses who had fought private wars against the Reynes, the Tarbecks, and their vassals? These people all had reason to hate the Reynes and Tarbecks and want them brought down.

So yeah, the Reynes and Tarbecks mishandled the political side of their revolt by focusing on Tytos Lannister to the exclusion of everyone else - if you're going to try to overthrow your liege lord, you want your peers onside first.

[redwolf17]

The characters of A Drowning Grief

Art by @ohnoitsmyra, commissioned by my beta, PA2. I'm so sorry 😔

Gwendolyn Lydden and Kevyn Reyne*

Elissa Reyne (nee Lydden), Dowager Lady of Castamere

Amarei, Lynora, and Alys Reyne*

Darlessa, Jeyne, and Leila Reyne*

Cerenna and Marla Reyne**

Ellyn Tarbeck (nee Reyne), Lady of Tarbeck Hall, and her grandson, Tywald

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*Children of Ser Reynard Reyne and Myrielle Lefford

**Children of Lord Roger Reyne and Eleyna Brax

[jedimaesteryoda]

"House Westerling has its pardon, and your brother Rolph has been made Lord of Castamere. -AFFC, Jaime VII

It seems Sybell Westerling made sure to get as big a piece of the pie for her family as she could. She didn't just stop at her own children, getting marriages to heirs for her daughters and an apparent good match for her son, but she also made sure her own house, the Spicers, were taken care of by having her brother Rolph Spicer made Lord of Castamere. Castamere was a rich plum which the family that once occupied it the resources to be the second most powerful family in the Westerlands.

The just takes into account what happened to the previous Lords of Castamere.

"The Crag is not so far from Tarbeck Hall and Castamere," Tyrion pointed out. "You'd think the Westerlings might have ridden past and seen the lesson there." -ASOS, Tyrion III

The Reynes had once allied with House Tarbeck with Ellyn Tarbeck having once briefly ruled the Rock and showered the Reynes with offices, honors and lands. They rebelled against House Lannister to displace them as Lords Paramount of the Westerlands, but their ambition ultimately proved to be their undoing.

Tywin sealed the entrances to the mines that made up 90% of the castle, and then diverted a nearby stream into the mines, drowning all those below. Their name has been often punned with "rain," and so in a bit of tragic irony, the Reynes died by water.

Eventually, Tywin's son who was much his image, Tyrion, will come back to the westerlands to claim Casterly Rock from his sister Cersei who is much the hot-tempered, ambitious woman Ellyn Tarbeck was. House Spicer also owes its place to the Lannister regime in King's Landing, and that means if King's Landing falls, so do they as they were complicit in the Red Wedding.

Much of the castle including the mines that gave Castamere much of its wealth are flooded, and what remains above is in ruins. While Rolph may not have to worry about being flooded out, the keep above has its own vulnerability.

Tyrion won't be coming alone, he will be bringing a queen with three dragons. Spice often has been associated with heat, making dishes hot and many come from the east. In a fate just as ironic as the previous Lords of Castamere, House Spicer dies by fire, specifically dragonfire brought from the east.

[warsofasoiaf]

If instead of annihilating the Raynes and Tarbecks, Tywin had sent Walderan Tarbeck, all his sons, his grandson his sons-in-law, and Roger and Reynard Reyne to the Wall (after imprisioning them for a while in Casterly Rock) and promised Ellyn Reyne and her daughters to the Faith (also after imprisioning them), given Castamere to Kevan and Tarbeck Hall to some cousin or nephew of Walderan's (in exchange for lands and hostages), would that have worked to send the right message to the Lannister vassals without having to commit war crimes?

The message Tywin wanted to send was: "Defiance of the mighty house of Lannister will be met with nothing short of annihilation come hell or high water." So in that sense, Tywin's not going to give his message with anything that could be seen as a half-measure. Tywin doing what you've suggested would be more practical, more considered, more restrained by the bounds of social convention. It's extreme, but still suggests that Tywin will accept some bound of rationality. That's compromise, a nasty four-letter word to Tywin, it means he's bound by something, which is a weakness he cannot afford.

Now, most outside observers would state that he's being irrational, but again, Tywin is not a rational man despite his self-conception. Tywin escalates beyond where anyone else is willing to go. So, what you suggest is incredibly brutal but rational, but seeks a way out to avoid vendetta while preserving life. You might be spared if you defy the mighty lions. To Tywin, that's the *wrong* message. So I'd argue that what you suggest would have gotten what Tywin was after from a rational perspective, but Tywin's message is far more extreme. Tywin wants everyone to know, House Lannister has authority, and if you challenge it, you and everything you care about will die. Your way is a better way to go about it, but it's not the message that Tywin wants to send. Nothing will stop him, and nothing will save you.

Thanks for the question, Anon.

SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King

[voices-of-the-stars]

HOUSE REYNE OF CASTAMERE

House Reyne has long thought themselves equal to House Lannister. The wealth they hold is nothing to scoff at as they too have gold mines and have made investments in property, as well as by using their family members in marriage to acquire more wealth. Alliances began when Ellyn Reyne married Walderan Tarbeck and these marriage alliances have been continued by Lady Roslyn Reyne, the current head of house. Roslyn has betrothed her children and her nieces tactfully, attempting to use them as chess pieces upon a board in order to shore up support for House Reyne. This has been done in silent, seen only as the Reynes building themselves up in prestige by making marriage alliances with other well known houses.

There will also be a separate ad made of some ideas for members of House Tarbeck, as they are relatives to the Reynes and co-conspirators in plotting the downfall of the Lannisters of Casterly Rock. It should also be noted that the Lannisters of Lannisport, which is where Ronan's dad comes in, are in on the rebellion as well. How each family member, especially those of the younger generation that are being used in marriages, feel in regards to these matches is going to be interesting to see played out.

Although I have a mini-description for each member of House Reyne that could be impactful for the plot involving overthrowing House Lannister of Casterly Rock here, this request will reflect some further feelings on the characters/Ronan's personal relationship with them.

[damnedance]

REYNA HILL

𝐍𝐀𝐌𝐄: Reyna Hill (later Longclaw)

𝐏𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐎𝐍𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐓𝐘:

ISTJ - ENNEGRAM 5W4 - CHOLERIC. she is a polite, ambitious, adaptable, and trustworthy woman. however, she is also unpredictable, cold, envious, and self-centered. her moral alignment is true neutral. she suffers from abandonment and trust issues, which influence her guarded and secretive nature. despite her cold exterior, she possesses an unwavering will and a sharp mind, making her both a survivor and a manipulator.

𝐇𝐎𝐔𝐒𝐄:

She is a bastard of House Westerling (allegedly), married into the new founded House Longclaw (cadet of House Vikary). However, she is by birth secretly, a bastard of House Reyne.

𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐍𝐄𝐂𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍𝐒:

FATHER: Lord Gawen Westerling (allegedly), Roger Reyne (secretly)

MOTHER: Ambrosia, a handmaid of Lady Westerling (deceased)

HALF-SIBLINGS: The Westerling heirs (allegedly)

SIGNIFICANT OTHER: Raginmund Longclaw (verse dependent)

CHILDREN: Ambrose and Hoster (twins who died at childbirth), Roberta (died at age two of pneumonia), and Gawen (unknown, possibly alive)

𝐑𝐎𝐋𝐄: Handmaid/Food tester/Bedwarmer/Spy

𝐁𝐀𝐂𝐊𝐆𝐑𝐎𝐔𝐍𝐃:

With no living relatives in Westeros and her grandfather traveling around Essos selling wines, little is known about Reyna’s origins when she arrives in King’s Landing to serve Ser Kevan Lannister and his wife. As a bastard from the Crag, Reyna was sent by the Westerlings to serve the Lannisters as a gesture of loyalty, despite the ongoing war after King Robert’s death. Reyna was born from an alleged union between Lord Gawen Westerling and a serving maid named Ambrosia a year before the Reyne-Tarbeck Revolt. Ambrosia, in her youth, traveled across Westeros with her father, Earl the Winemaker, selling wines and other fine drinks. During a stop in Castamere, they prepared for Lady Ellyn Reyne’s nameday festivities. Known for her beauty, Ambrosia caught the eye of many admirers, including Roger Reyne, the Red Lion himself. Ambrosia and Roger began a passionate affair, but rumors of rebellion forced them apart. Ambrosia and her father moved to the Crag to deliver wines to the Westerlings, unaware that she was carrying Roger's child. At her father's insistence, Ambrosia agreed to stay at the Crag, leaving her past with the Lions behind.

Serving wasn’t unfamiliar to Reyna's mother, Ambrosia, but working for Lady Sybell Spicer was particularly grueling. When Ambrosia discovered she was carrying Roger’s child, the workload became unbearable. While Lady Sybell, a noble with lowborn roots, was demanding, Lord Gawen Westerling, Ambrosia's new lover, was simple and indulgent. Missing Roger and his promises, Ambrosia used Gawen to provide her child with a father. Despite Lady Westerling's disapproval, Ambrosia's pregnancy progressed smoothly. She was demoted to a cook, working alongside the stern, half-blind Gwyn. On a rainy morning, Reyna was born amid the brewing Reyne-Tarbeck revolt. Reyna grew up strong and intelligent. Despite Lady Sybell's horror, Lord Gawen acknowledged Reyna as his own when she was two, teaching her archery, reading, and etiquette. By age 10, Reyna helped her mother in the kitchens, though her tasks were minor. Isolated in the Crag, Reyna had little contact with other children, and her mother avoided discussing her bastardy. Instead, Ambrosia focused on molding Reyna into something more than she herself could have been, even if it meant being harsh and manipulative.

Years passed, and on a warm summer night, Ambrosia finally revealed the truth about Reyna’s parentage before taking her last breath. With a few words, Reyna's world shattered—her life had been a lie, and the only father she knew was just a pawn in her mother’s schemes. Though life at the Crag grew unpleasant, Reyna knew revealing the truth would be a mistake. Without her mother’s protection and with Lord Gawen preoccupied, Lady Sybell had free reign over her. Reyna grew into a beauty with long blonde hair and greenish eyes, a blessing and a curse. Her relationship with Lady Sybell was strained and volatile, fueled by mutual resentment. When Lady Sybell became pregnant, Reyna was forced to help, and a small bond formed after Reyna assisted in delivering Lady Sybell’s first son, Reynald. With Lady Sybell’s favor, Reyna’s life improved, and by age 15, a marriage was being arranged. Reyna was promised to a much older knight with a suspicious history of dead wives. Terrified, Reyna’s fate seemed sealed until her suitor was killed in a duel on his way to the Crag. With few options left, Lady Sybell sent Reyna to serve the Lannisters, hoping this gesture of good faith would secure an eventual future alliance for her own daughter. Reyna’s departure was brisk—Lady Sybell gave her an old dress, and Lord Gawen handed her a small purse of coins, telling her to buy something nice once she arrived in King’s Landing.

As an adult, Reyna faithfully served Ser Kevan Lannister and Lady Dorna Swyft, though she avoided Lord Tywin like the Stranger himself. After King Robert's death and the onset of war, she was brought to King’s Landing to serve Tyrion Lannister and keep an eye on him under Ser Kevan's orders. Although no longer in the spring of her youth, some of her beauty remained intact and more than once she heard quips on how she looked much more like a Lannister than the Imp himself. It wasn’t hard for her to find her place in the game of thrones, playing and allowing herself to be played. Reyna did her best to keep her secret hidden from everyone, especially the lions whose claws she was deep tangled into, and keep her head above the water.

After the war, Reyna married Ser Raginmund Longclaw, a legitimized bastard who claimed descent from Lord Reynard Reyne and Lady Lya Vikary. Upon his legitimization, he adopted the name Longclaw and formed a cadet house of House Vikary. Though Raginmund was kind, he was not particularly bright, and Reyna married him primarily for his noble title and his lineage. They settled near the Golden Tooth and had four children, though only one, Gawen, survived infancy.

𝐀𝐒𝐎𝐈𝐀𝐅 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐄:

In her main asoiaf verse, she worked as a handmaid to Lady Dorna Swyft and later was sent to serve under Tyrion Lannister at the behest of Ser Kevan Lannister, passing informations to him. She keeps her true lineage hidden while avoiding drawing attention.

𝐇𝐎𝐓𝐃 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐄:

In a hotd AU, her story can be adapted to fit into the earlier Targaryen history, possibly as a handmaid or courtier in service to the Lannisters.

[duchess-of-oldtown]

What’s your thoughts on House Webber and rohanne of Webber in the books?

I really want to know what happened Rohanne. I headcannon that her Lannister husband had something to do with her death, considering the pattern of the names given to the daughters of Ellyn Tarbeck.

[game-of-style]

Luxurious gown for Lady Ellyn Tarbeck, who used Lannister gold to replenish her household in Tarbeck Hall -  Ziad Nakad Haute Couture Fall/Winter 2018-19

[makerkenzie]

The lions: now the rains weep o’er their halls

Here are my notes from reading about the Lannisters’ relationship to the Reynes and Tarbecks from TWOIAF:

Okay, so, there were twins, Tywald and Tion. Gerold Lannister’s two oldest sons.

Tywald was betrothed to Robert Reyne's daughter Ellyn Reyne.

Tywald died at war in 233 AC, along with Robert Reyne, which left Roger Reyne the new Lord of Castamere.

Tion was betrothed to a daughter of Lord Rowan of Goldengrove.

However, as he was the new heir to the Rock following Tywald's death, Ellyn Reyne convinced Tion to set aside his betrothal to the Rowan girl and marry her instead.

Gerold didn't like this match, but he was all worn out from grief, and he couldn't do much about it.

In 235, there was a double wedding at Casterly Rock: Tion wed Ellyn Reyne, and Tytos wed Jeyne Marbrand.

Gerold retreated to his books, so Ellyn Reyne became the Lady of Casterly Rock in all but name.

She had lots of fun at the Rock, and had her Reyne relatives around her all the time. Roger and Reynard were always there, and she showered honors on them and her uncles, cousins, nephews and nieces. Basically, Ellyn Reyne was using the wealth and power of the Rock to improve the status of the Reynes.

This went on for a year. In 236, the Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion began, and Tion Lannister was killed in battle.

Following the death of the second of his twins, Lord Gerold got his act together and took control again. He threw all the Reynes out of the castle except for Ellyn, and he started trying to smack some sense into Tytos.

Ellyn remained until 239 AC, at which point it is rumored that Ellyn tried to seduce Tytos Lannister and get him to set aside his wife for her. Tytos couldn't get it up, he begged Jeyne for forgiveness, and Jeyne told Gerold, who was pissed and decided to get Ellyn a new husband.

Or maybe that didn't happen quite like that. Either way, at that date, something happened that made Gerold want to get Ellyn out of his castle. So he arranged a new marriage for her. She wedded Walderan Tarbeck, the fifty-five-year-old lord of Tarbeck Hall.

Then there was the War of the Wombs. Tywin was born in the early 240s, while Ellyn Tarbeck had 3 kids with Walderan Tarbeck.

Gerold died in 244 AC, which left Tytos as Lord of the Rock, and he was terrible at it. He was weak-willed, indecisive, and too trusting, so everyone wanted to fuck with him.

This is the environment of Tywin's childhood: after the Reynes had all been expelled from the Rock, and after the Reynes had groomed Tytos to be their bitch, after Gerold died, with Tytos being a weak-sauce lord.

In 252 AC, Genna Lannister was betrothed to Emmon Frey, and Tywin openly protested the match. Because Emmon Frey wasn't important enough to wed the daughter of the Lord of the Rock.

Shortly thereafter, Tytos sent Tywin to KL to be a cupbearer at King Aegon's court. He sent Kevan to be a page to Lord Reyne at Castamere.

Okay, so now Tywin's next brother is a page for the Reynes.

Meanwhile, Roger and Reynard Reyne have been borrowing tons of money from the Lannisters and not paying it back. Ellyn Reyne was no longer welcome at the Rock, but her brothers were happy to borrow gold from Tytos on her behalf, so the Tarbecks were finally getting richer from Lannister gold, too. Lord Tytos found it hard to refuse Roger Reyne.

255 AC, Gerion Lannister is born and Lady Jeyne dies a moon's turn later from complications. Tytos is no longer the laughing lion and loses all interest in running the west, so conditions deteriorate further. (Lord Tytos takes up with his son Gerion’s wet nurse some time later.)

Then there was the War of Ninepenny Kings. Jason Lannister died in 260, but Tywin, Kevan and Tygett all acquitted themselves very well. (We'll just put aside for a moment that Tygett was all of 10 years old at the time and had no business being at war.) Following Jason's death, command went to Roger Reyne, who knighted Kevan himself. Tywin was knighted by Prince Aerys.

However, during the war, Tywin learned of how badly other lords viewed House Lannister, and when he came back, he took charge (despite his father still being alive) and went about putting the west back in order. Tytos feebly protested and then retreated back into the arms of his wet nurse.

Tywin formed a company of their comrades from the Stepstones and put them under Kevan's command. He started demanding repayment of loans. Those who were unable to pay back their loans, sent hostages to Casterly Rock. Some obeyed, such as Harys Swyft, who sent his daughter as a hostage. Others still thought they could get away with shit.

Lord Reyne laughed at Tywin's edicts. Lord Tarbeck foolishly rode to Casterly Rock and thought he could intimidate Tytos, but instead Tywin chucked him into a dungeon.

Lady Tarbeck retaliated by sending out her own knights to capture some Lannisters, including Tywin's cousin Stafford, brother to his betrothed Joanna.

This crisis got Tytos to climb out of bed and do something about it. He overruled Tywin and arranged for the exchange of hostages. They went to Castamere, with Kevan handing over Lord Tarbeck, and Lady Tarbeck giving back the Lannisters. Lord Reyne held a feast, with the Lannisters and Tarbecks exchanging gifts and kisses and vowing to be best friends forever.

Yeah, well, Tywin did not attend that feast, and he was not interested in being anyone's friend. Late 261 (not yet a year after the feast), Tywin sent ravens to Castamere and Tarbeck Hall and demanded that the Reynes and Tarbecks show up at Casterly Rock to "answer for their crimes."

So, like…the conflict was resolved, actually, and the Reynes and Tarbecks were behaving themselves, but that wasn't good enough for Tywin.

Anyway, the Reynes and Tarbecks weren't having this "answer for your crimes" bullshit, so they renounced their fealty to Casterly Rock, and so Tywin gathered up his soldiers (without even trying to discuss the matter with his father) and went for the nuclear option.

First they rode to Tarbeck Hall and knocked it all down on Ellyn Tarbeck's head. The Reynes came along in response to Ellyn's call to her brothers, but they were not strong enough to overcome the Lannisters, who chased them back to Castamere.

Then at Castamere, the Reynes and all their peeps retreated into the mines, and Reynard sent terms up to Tywin, but Tywin was not interested in any terms. He sealed the mines, diverted a stream in, and drowned the entire castle.

Okay, so, that’s one way to restore peace to the west.

[margaera]

“Lord Toad, the fool at Casterly Rock,

 called the rivalry between Ellyn and Jeyne 

the War of the Wombs”

[racefortheironthrone]

If instead of killing all the Reynes and Tarbecks, Tywin had just sent Lord Roger, his brother, Lord Walderan and his direct decendants to the Wall (including the baby), and sent Ellyn and her doughters to a Mother's House, would that be considered within Westerosi customs, or would it still be too extreme?

No, I think that would have been seen as a proportionate response within the norms of Westerosi society and polity: the Reynes and the Tarbecks were not just "overmighty vassals," but at this point were rebels-in-all-but-name. Eliminating them as a military and political threat while keeping the bloodshed to a minimum would have been seen as steering a middle path between pragmatic efficiency and chivalry.

The problem is that Tywin didn't want a reputation for moderation; he wanted a reputation that would evoke fear.

[agameofclothes]

What Ellyn Reyne would wear as Lady of House Tarbeck, Temperly London

[redwolf17]

genna taking joy hill her bastard niece with her rather than stay behind to help tywin's golden twins (not that she could have done much) gets more satisfying when you remember the state of gerion and tywin relationship which was not good

I guess? Gerion and Tywin weren't mortal enemies or anything; Genna being fond of Gerion wouldn't offend Tywin, although he probably would not be thrilled that there was help to be had for a bastard Lannister but not for his own children… Then again, when he learned about the incest Tywin wanted to have Cersei's tongue cut out and stick her in the silent sisters 😬

Side note, while Genna is amusing in her brief canon cameo, she's pretty approving of Tywin's actions:

"Men say that Tywin never smiled, but he smiled when he wed your mother, and when Aerys made him Hand. When Tarbeck Hall came crashing down on Lady Ellyn, that scheming bitch, Tyg claimed he smiled then. And he smiled at your birth, Jaime, I saw that with mine own eyes. You and Cersei, pink and perfect, as alike as two peas in a pod . . . well, except between the legs. What lungs you had!"

"Hear us roar." Jaime grinned. "Next you'll be telling me how much he liked to laugh."

"No. Tywin mistrusted laughter. He heard too many people laughing at your grandsire." She frowned. "I promise you, this mummer's farce of a siege would not have amused him. How do you mean to end it, now that you're here?"

...

"Tired?" His aunt pursed her lips. "I suppose he has a right to be. It has been hard for Kevan, living all his life in Tywin's shadow. It was hard for all my brothers. That shadow Tywin cast was long and black, and each of them had to struggle to find a little sun. Tygett tried to be his own man, but he could never match your father, and that just made him angrier as the years went by. Gerion made japes. Better to mock the game than to play and lose. But Kevan saw how things stood early on, so he made himself a place by your father's side."

"And you?" Jaime asked her.

"It was not a game for girls. I was my father's precious princess . . . and Tywin's too, until I disappointed him. My brother never learned to like the taste of disappointment." She pushed herself to her feet. "I've said what I came to say, I shan't take any more of your time. Do what Tywin would have done."

"Did you love him?" Jaime heard himself ask.

His aunt looked at him strangely. "I was seven when Walder Frey persuaded my lord father to give my hand to Emm. His second son, not even his heir. Father was himself a thirdborn son, and younger children crave the approval of their elders. Frey sensed that weakness in him, and Father agreed for no better reason than to please him. My betrothal was announced at a feast with half the west in attendance. Ellyn Tarbeck laughed and the Red Lion went angry from the hall. The rest sat on their tongues. Only Tywin dared speak against the match. A boy of ten. Father turned as white as mare's milk, and Walder Frey was quivering." She smiled. "How could I not love him, after that? That is not to say that I approved of all he did, or much enjoyed the company of the man that he became . . . but every little girl needs a big brother to protect her. Tywin was big even when he was little." She gave a sigh. "Who will protect us now?"

[goodqueenaly]

I was helping write for @historyofwesteros’ Rains of Castamere stream this weekend, and something Aziz said made me realize - the song “The Rains of Castamere” is even more of a triumph for Tywin than I first thought. Despite the fact that Ellyn Reyne was the central figure of this drama - the natural fulcrum of the Reyne-Tarbeck faction, the de facto de uxoris ruler of the Westerlands during the War of the Ninepenny Kings, the defiant commander at Tarbeck Hall - she is nowhere to be found in this song. Indeed, despite the fact that it was Ellyn who (per the unabridged chapter, anyway) provided almost the direct lyrics of the song - “[y]ou are not the only lions in the west, ser. My brothers are coming, and their claws are just as long and sharp as yours” - the songwriter (probably deliberately) misattributes the quote to the unnamed Lord of Castamere. Nor does the song have any mention of the Tarbecks at all: it is the Reyne lord who mocks the Lannisters, and the (to borrow @racefortheironthrone’s turn of phrase) noyades of Castamere which takes center stage in the Lannister reaction; even the song’s title puts the emphasis on the Reynes alone.

And this, I think, was exactly how Tywin wanted it. An active participant in the patriarchal and misogynistic structures of Westeros, Tywin very much believes in strict, lesser spheres for women to occupy - domestic roles as wives and mothers. A vassal lord rebelling against his rightful liege to try to take over supreme power for himself? That’s not unknown in the feudal order, Tywin may have thought (indeed, the Lannisters had only risen through the cunning and trickery of an ancestor against an established liege),l; he could and would crush any uprising to show that he was the top dog (lion?) in the west. But a woman defying him - a woman who had dared tried to claim the place of the Lannisters, a woman who had tried to rule the Westerlands through the front of her husband, a woman who had gone so far as to refuse any surrender to the Lannisters at her gates? That, I think, Tywin would find unnatural, monstrous, a disturbing aberration in the world order. This abnormal woman would in turn both become the target of special hatred - Genna, admiring Tywin, referring to Ellyn even in the modern day as “that scheming bitch” and recalling Tywin’s joy at seeing “Tarbeck Hall [come] crashing down on” her - and deserve to be eliminated from the history in which she had tried to insert herself.

So while Tywin of course didn’t write “The Rains of Castamere” himself, I think he approved of the way it was written - and specifically its exclusion of Ellyn Reyne - as the perfect complement to his actions and attitudes during the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion. Just as Tywin had (again, at least per the unabridged chapter) silenced Ellyn’s daughters (perhaps twice over, by forcing them into the silent sisters and perhaps removing their tongues), so the song silences her. There is no place for Ellyn in its lyrics, even as a treacherous rebel commander - that’s a role for her nearest male relation instead (no matter that by the time the war crime of Castamere occurred it was Reynard and not Lord Roger offering terms to Tywin; in the firm class order of Westeros (and no less firm than in Tywin’s Westerlands), it’s the lord who ranks above his younger brother). For Tywin, to celebrate the destruction of Tarbeck Hall would be to advertise the occasion in which a mere woman dared defy him; better to perform a sort of damnatio memoriae on Ellyn Reyne herself, to rewrite the history in a proper (which is to say, in Westeros, patriarchal and sexist) way as as one of males versus males. Only “the shattered [castle] of the … Tarbecks” would “[stand] as mute testimony to the fate that awaited those who chose to scorn the power of Casterly Rock”; the defiant woman who had made it her last stand, only for it to become her grave, would be eliminated.

[dragonmartellstark]

Women of House Lannister (Ladies of Casterly Rock, daughters or wives of minor members)