#dungeon meshi toshiro

[bloodraven55]

not only marcille explicitly comparing her feelings for falin to toshiro’s but her similar line in the first ep retroactively gaining a much stronger romantic implication as a result too oh i love winning

[mewji13775266]

[inthecarpets]

Thinking once again about how beautifully and nuanced Ryoko Kui crafted Toshiro and Laios' relationship. And how in a way the many interpretations and types of reactions say a lot about the viewers' lives and perspectives.

How sometimes two people might want to be polite, might want to be kind, but due to their differences, misscommunication and their own personal flaws they will only end up hurting each other. And the longer their misscommunication lasts, the more it hurts. How sometimes if people spoke sooner it wouldn't get to be so bad.

And how reactions say how quite much everyone been in some kind of situation like that. We assume the best and the worst intentions in each other.

We have to deal with a person who can't stop bothering us. Deal with a person who seems a little shy but they are nice but actually no, they secretly hate us. Situation where someone pretends to be a friend or for some forsaken reason forces themselves to hang out with us. When it's hard to confront someone. When we are too much. When we are in the wrong without realising it. When it's hard to be confronted. Being in a situation you wish you were confronted at the start. How sometimes confrontation is near impossible. Taking a risk of confrontation in general. Not being able to find the right words. Not being able to utter them.

Sometimes we'd all rather to point fingers and call each other names instead of realise the flaws of the world that we live in. How sometimes there Sure are bad people and bad intentions but sometimes it's also just all a bad accident with good intentions on both sides, and lack of education.

Ryoko Kui crafted such a very nuanced and beautiful story. A story with details such show the readers and viewers' feelings and perspectives and shortcomings when interacting with other people. And yeah, i think that's beautiful. Bless.

[blue-jester]

every image of Shuro looks like this to me

[kaseisheretoread]

The fact Toshiro falls for both Touden siblings if he were to be the opposite gender is gonna be my Roman Empire for a few days

[sleepysnail6]

...ouch

[a-scary-lack-of-common-sense]

i dont think liking/relating to shuro is bad, hes not a bad guy objectively he only blew up on laios because he was malnourished, exhausted, and stressed among other things. people hate on him unfairly and you shouldnt feel bad for finding yourself in him, hes a super fascinating and deep character thats very well written and, as you said, articulates the culture clash between asians and westerns that often doesnt get talked about.

im so sorry the fandoms need to hate on poc is affecting you, you deserve so much better

Yeah, you're so right!!

I thought Shuro was so very relatable as an Asian myself because reading between the lines was like a Big Thing that was practically drilled into me as a child. There's even a word for it in Korean: 눈치! Roughly translating to having a 'good eye' for reading situations or people.

It's common courtesy in most Asian cultures (idk if this applies to all Asian countries though!) to be able to quickly and correctly pick up on social cues, regardless of how subtle they are. And a person can be considered rude, dense, or even disrespectful if they don't manage to do that.

I do absolutely see the flaw in this system, that being that it can be majorly disadvantageous towards neurodivergent people in particular. I mean, my autistic ass used to get scolded by my parents a lot as a child because of various social faux-pas caused by my utter inability to read the goddamn room back then (I was a BLUNT child, alr). Which is why I can see how people could consider he and Laios' fight as a neurotypical VS. neurodivergent type of situation. Buuuut, I think it was more of a miscommunication issue that is a little hard to play the blame game with.

Ofc, he is a flawed character, and I'm not saying people are not allowed to dislike him, but I think it's a shame to bundle up such a multi-faceted character such as Shuro into one big negative label of ableist. I feel like it's wrong to throw the word around so willy nilly.

Anyways!! I really like Shuro despite his flaws, I can see myself in him a lot! Other than the noble warrior part, obv. I think it's nice that Rioko Kui portrayed a fairly unexplored topic concerning Asian and Western culture clash :)

Edit: OKAY, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS BEFORE, BUT IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE APPARENTLY OWNS SLAVES THEN THAT'S LIKE A WHOLE DIFFERENT CAN OF WORMS

[absol-utelynot13]

Rotating these characters in my brain so of course I had to make ugly Pinterest collages of them. I haven’t seen enough fans of these folks 😔😔

[churroach]

Looking respectfully

(EDIT: fellas, it’s really not that deep. Anyone starting beef over this stupid drawing getting blocked, i dont care to argue with people who come and judge me (a stranger) in bad faith. A bit dissapointed that this joke post is what’s getting the most attention but alas that’s the internet for ya i guess.)

[deepsea-cowboy]

[curioscurio]

Senshi was busy so they sent me a grim omen instead

[bloodraven55]

marcille is never beating the jealous allegations

[mewji13775266]

[inthecarpets]

Laios and Toshiro throwing it down felt so cathartic to me to be honest. A person unable to properly vocalise their feelings due to his personality, (and cultural differences) finally vocalising his feelings towards a person, who cannot fully grasp when his behaviour is too much, who cannot read social cues, and who needs to have it all spelled out for him.

Sometimes there is just no love, no friendship, only hate. Even one with well meaning intentions.

Sometimes i wish i had fought with some people like that. Sometimes i wish some people wouldn't try to simply wait my mistakes, misscommunications, or whole existence through. Simply waiting and growing in their resentment instead getting it out of their chest.

Sometimes after all, only after having this honest moment you can both be free. Clarity, even if it hurts at first. Sometimes it fixes everything. Sometimes your relationship cannot be fixed. After all the longer someone bottles their feelings up, the more resentful they might become. And in Toshiro's case it took such a long time it feels nice that he still finds kindness in him. Maybe it's only for the sake of the one he loves, but there is a beauty in that too. That he still cares overall, even if there is no love. Even if there is only hate.

It's sad, it's cruel, it's cathartic.

[kempkin]

my goat

[doctorburgers]

you cant be saying that White Baby.