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the duffer brothers are not safe while I'm around
#I JUST FINISHED SEASON 3 AND#Ahhh#it's so mileven and it's not completely disgusting but it's actually just platonic elmike#but that's not what I'm upset about#its hop#how the fuck#what the fuck#dont give me spoilers for s4 pls#that wasn't expected in the least#I was crying#I was in hysterics crying#I am not okay#duffer bros watch out#god what the fuck#AND WHEN DAVID BOWIE STARTED SINGING I LOST IT#AND HE DIED the year stranger things s1 came out and the same song was used when theY pulled willS 'DEAD BODY' OUT OF THE QAURRY
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listen i don’t get to drink very often. my tolerance isn’t super high. im by no means over the top drunk but i was not expecting twisted teas to really do anything and i was very wrong
#YKNOW WHAT THOUGH#the researching skills i got from doing st st if helped me finish the short campaign my cousin has set up that involved dnd mtg and cod lore#i am very unfamiliar for cod lore but i was able to figure out who the demon gate was which ended up saving everyone BUT ME#these guys fucking hate me bro#it was fun though#it only lasted like six or seven hours tho 💔#i saved everybody from the giant ape with a battle axe by seducing it and my other cousin gaslit it into thinking we were in love one time#HE LOOKED AT ME AND CRIED AS HE DIED#I WAS ON THE VERGE OF TEARS IM SOS ERIOUS#WE WRRE BABYGIRL4BABYGIRL#AND THEN I HAD TO WATCH HIM DIE /AGAIN/#DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKED UP THAT IS??????#HE TURNED TO DUST IN FRONT OF MY EYES#hope the forsaken gods kts fr#i know ulamog personally and he fucking SUCKS dude#same with kolizek#ive never fuckd with emrakul but she seems like a bitch#i wish i knew if the duffers were mtg nerds because i could theorize that with the st lore but NO#why couldn’t they be my brand of nerd. i hate it here
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Bro why is the bar for twitter people in the st fandom literally in hell , like they make me feel smart fr.
I feel like the van’s scene is so easy to understand but some people still fail to grasp the nuances of it , like hello ????? 😭😭
No Emily , what Will said does not apply to El as well. El doesn’t need Mike like that , and that’s okay. Does it mean she loves Mike any less or that she doesn’t want him in her life ? Of course not. But s4 was literally her journey to independence , finally growing out of her insecurities of being needed and wanted by Mike only because of her powers.
And that is literally why Will lying about his feelings , disguising them as El’s for the greater good , and Mike finding out about the painting are going to be MAJOR plot lines in s5.
Like ain’t no way I got told that I’m making shit up and I’m trying to say that Will needs Mike while El doesn’t.
El definitely wants Mike in her life , but the point is that Will NEEDS Mike in the way Mike wants to be needed. And I don’t even say this with shipping in mind , but that is just a matter of fact and why the painting plot line is still so important. Will is the one seeing Mike as his protector , as a though and throughout paladin. Like the cast said many times , it’s Will who wishes to play dnd and Nintendo in Mike’s basement with him for the rest of his life. And that’s okay , that doesn’t take away anything from El’s feelings like some people make it want to seem like.
Two things can coexist at once because El and Will love Mike in two different ways , and what Mike needed to hear steams from his own depression and self worth issues.
That is why the van scene and Will’s lies are so important. Because Mike IS DEFINITELY, without any kind of doubt , going to discover that the painting is Will’s. How things will unfold after that can only be known by the duffer brothers as of now , but it is a fact that the kind of love Mike wants is the one that Will can provide him.
Does it mean that I’m trying to say that El doesn’t love Mike and Will is some damn of damsel in distress that always needs saving ??? No, and I know for a fact Will can stand his own as well and actually appreciates when he doesn’t get treated as something delicate going to fall apart any time soon.
Does this also mean that Melvin is bones ? Girl I don’t fucking know and I don’t fucking care. Does this also mean that byler is endgame and El’s feelings don’t matter ? No and I don’t fucking know how Mike will react to the truth.
But some people are watching the show without even getting the meaning of the characters’ actions and it baffles me I’m so serious rn
#byler#gay will byers#will byers#mike wheeler#will byers deserves better#y’all are stupid idc#nobody gets them like i do
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I was just watching TikTok and when a Rockie/Byler parallel edit appear i decided to read the comments, only to find out that there's still many people who still thinks that Will's not in love with Mike and that he only want to be friends with Mike like before.
I was literally like this:
There were even comments explaining that it's basically canon and confirm by the Duffers and even by the freaking actors, AND THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEM. Like bro, there's like many interviews were this is confirm and you're still doubting????
And they call us delusional.
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Fun fact: This billboard featured in 4x09 of Stranger Things does not exist in real life, outside of the show
This might very well have been obvious to some fans watching, though with how little it's talked about, I get the impression most brushed off the billboard altogether, and so I felt the need to point this detail out.
Also, here's a time-lapse with the artist who painted it:
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Clearly there was indeed intention going into this billboard, and considering the context of the scene, it makes a lot of sense.
What we get is El walking off towards the billboard almost curiously. Upon walking over we see a few cars drive past, which we only know because the sound of cars passing in the background, along with their headlights shining on our characters standing outside of the gas station.
As these cars drive past, we get two distinct moments where the headlights cause Will to have a perfect shadow behind him aka twin imagery.
And this is simultaneously being juxtaposed with El looking at this family on this billboard? It's worth noting that the billboard is very warn out, obviously to give the effect that it's been there for years, though it also creates this feeling of anonymity to the people in the painting itself, specifically the father who is warn out almost completely, while the rest of the family is turned around and so we couldn't see their faces even if we wanted to (though the women/mother is definitely giving off Joyce vibes...).
El then proceeds to have a flashback of Terry and Billy and her experiences in previous seasons interacting with them in the void. This is then what inspires El to just piggyback off of Max to get into Henry's mind basically.
Fascinating right?
But it gets better.
It means that this shit right here, is their way of mocking the hell out of us...
The Whiting Bros sign...
The billboard...
The Duffer Brothers aka twins...
The Willel siblings aka twi-- *GUNSHOT*
#stranger things#willel twins#willel literal twins#joyce + hopper = willel twins#this is what happens when you fixate on motelgate and come across another gate in the process#not even a gate though just an observation#anyways
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ST5 things
a list of stuff I'm noticing from the ST5 bts video, for myself to look back on when it comes out. Some are obvious things, others I'm really digging for. Not including the Dustin cemetery situation I posted about before.
Castle Byers duh, I hope this is sad
Dustin is sitting in Eddie's spot at the lunch table
Joyce with the kids + steve! (+ dustin with a bloody nose.)
Back in the tunnels
Bikes, Bikes, and More Bikes
Twinkies?
Karen is probs gonna be a bigger part of this season? I mean, her BABY is being stolen, so valid
The boys are so tall now, oml
Linda Hamilton, so maybe some terminator references?
Mike in his own house this season lol
Obviously the picnic table
Holly has such a sitcom looking room and something is happening in the kitchen of the house, maybe that's where she get's taken? Why is vecna after her though?
New character! Erica has a friend, I am excited about this. They're in a barn? So farm stuff
Jocks in the graveyard, definitely beating up Dustin and vandalizing Eddie grave. If you watch close, Dustin is standing behind one of the duffer brothers, so yes, he's definitely getting fought
School projector, maybe in school or radio station basement?
Nancy and Mike time!! Probably looking for their sister
Robin and Joyce!!! Mother is mothering this season
Murray!!
A ground gate again, ground looks farm like, maybe it's near the barn where Erica and her friend are?
Mike and Lucas time, running through empty hall, could be anything
Steve is IN the upside down
Steve driving with Jonathan in the back seat in looks like, I'm assuming Nance or Robin in the front
At the picnic table, Will is having a vision or sensing Vecna or something. He's walking away from the group while they fuck around, so something weird. Looks very similar to Chris looking at the tree during her vision
Duffer Bro mimes something come up off the ground at Will, so maybe demo dogs? Or something simialr?
Full beard Hopper screaming with a hunting rifle. Does not bode well.
Someone getting TOSSED
Dustin with Steve, Nancy, and Jonathan, we've all seen this
Older guy with a gun, reminiscent of the Russian in season 4. Maybe and Owens guy?
Vecna fully vecna'd up
Will falling form the top of a tree BUT he looks to be wearing the same clothes as season 1? He's in the red and yellow vest and plaid shirt. Maybe I'm misremembering but this is a familiar outfit
El in the upside down. She's in a weird outfit? It's like gym shorts over tights and a sweater? Maybe it's the fashion?
that is all, bye
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m, i’ve been thinking and if they kill off steve in season 5 i am going to RIOT. out of everyone pleeeaaaase not him bro i beg the duffer brothers 🙏🙏🙏🙏 ESPECIALLY FOR OUR STORIES can u imagine having to write steve dying too omg 😭😭😭😭
i actually would highkey LOVE to write steve dying <3333 i love angst itd be so fun to add
HOWEVER watching him die id kill myself thats my baby right there
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look I wasn't shipping byler before season 4 I was just there watching rooting for my Will to be happy for once and then the freaking writers decided to put that awful half hug in season 4 and made it clear that my boy would be happy only with Mike so I ended up here hoping for that before volume two... DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF STRESS THEY GAVE TO ME WITH THIS CHOICE I would have preferred for Will to have a crush on a freaking random boy and be already happy in season 4 but the Duffers teased byler and now the only real happy ending for Will IS byler! any other choice they can make has part of a heartbreak in it because Will is in love with Mike he's not just having a freaking random crush he knows Mike better than anyone else and he loves him and Mike gives him courage and makes him keep fighting and makes him feel like he's not a mistake at all!!!! like he's BETTER for being different... and you want to tell me that Will can be all happy after Mike tells him "no homo bro but you're still my bestie even if you're gay" ???? obviously no because it's not realistic, he will be heartbroken like he was heartbroken hearing Mike saying I love you to El... like he is already because he thinks Mike loves El and has decided to bury his own feelings for Mike forever! they decided to write the story like this and now yeah I will be pissed off if the resolution for Will is just him coming out and people telling him yeah it's ok... like... c'mon WE KNOW THEY ALL WILL LOVE HIM AND ACCEPT HIM that is so anticlimactic! We know he's gay from this season, we know the characters so we ALL know he will be loved by every single one of them even if he's gay... we know Mike will not be homophobic to Will because Finn told us... what's the story here?????? Will thinks no one will ever love him!!!
#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#I would have been fine with Will just doing his coming out if byler was never a possibility jfc
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I just knew that they were going to write Eduardo out of Stranger things season 5 the Duffer Bros were already on thin ice with me but now it's over. The cast photo told me everything that I need to know. I refuse to watch season 5.
#all the praying I did did absolutely nothing#guess that's what I get for praying about a fictional character like an idiot#I knew this was gonna happen so I can't say that I'm surprised#eduardo franco#deserves better
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see thats what worries me tho. i dont think jopper or jancy were written well. even lumax, they all follow the "attraction at first sight" bull we keep on critisizing mileven for
imagine the duffers are just weirdo reddit dude bros ill cry
I don't think j*ncy or j*pper have that though they built a friendship first and the duffers have said they do not believe love at first sight I think we have enough evidence for byler endgame a lot of people hate milkvan now after s4 and I think that was the duffers intention and a lot of people love byler again the duffers intention anon if you are that worried I suggest looking at byler proof videos listen to people talk about that as a matter of fact i have the perfect person you can watch @cloudycleric go watch his videos he's amazing ❤️ much love anon I hope you're doubt goes away soon I'm also posting videos on here check them out!
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🩷🧡💛💚🩵💙💜💐🌸 Gimme Billy thoughts for the soul pls n thx
🩷 Why are they your favorite?
ok ok ok . so for as short of a time as we got billy - we got a LOT of characterization for him. like, even with max, we didn't get that much characterization. why? was it dacre? i lean more towards yes than i would contribute that being w the duffers tbh. back to my point - that backstory is legitimately one of the most intriguing characters i've seen in a long time. and there's so much to play with there! he's not just your typical cardboard "bully" -- THERE'S MEAT ON THAT SKELETON, you know?!?
❤️ How did you discover them/get into them?
oh man, so one of my friends loves steve, and she was aghast that i hadn't watched stranger things and i was like, "alright, watch it with me." so. and that was *checks calendar* the fourth of this year. so. you know. normal amount of time to be this obsessed. mhm.
🧡 Do you have anything in common with them?
we're both california transplants in indiana! and... while i didn't live on the ocean quite like he did, i miss being within driving distance of the coast. and uhhhhh. terrible relationships with our dads is 😎 good times. plus, being dramatic is bitchin'.
💛 Do you have any polar opposite traits to them?
i would much rather be playing dnd with eddie and the nerd squad rather than lifting weights with billy.
💚 What are your favorite added rep headcanons for them? (queer labels, disabilities, nationalities, ethnicities, etc.)
ohhhhh i love all of them, because they all feel like... they're common enough for me to get the gist of him, but the way different people write him is so interesting! i think my most favorite is that billy's gay. there's a few where i've read post-s3 where he's disabled from the mind flayer and THOSE are SO GOOD.
🩵 What's a popular headcanon for them you just can't get behind?
not that i can think of? i like seeing what hc's people come up with, how they see them, you know? if there's an hc someone has for him that doesn't fit my version, that's okay! that's their version, and that's the fun in hc's!
💙 What's a popular headcanon for them that you adore?
that he just wants to protect max, as much as he abhors how he's responsible for her. that even though they fought and whatever, at the end of the day, he loved max. i also love when he welcomes the rest of the party into his protection, like a little mother duck or something. oh, i really love when billy has powers, too. 😈
💜 'Put that guy into situations' or 'take that guy out of situations'?
¿ por que no los dos ? put my mans in more situations with children. (specifically erica, so he can shoot down those racist allegations and also be read to absolute filth in .5 seconds from a girl who barely comes up past his hip) get him out of situations with neil.
💐 What are your favorite poly ship(s) for them, if any?
hmmm. harringroveson is the only one i know of? ALTHOUGH i do enjoy the thought of stevexrobinxbilly. so. uh. harringrovely? anyway.
🌸 What are your favorite mono ship(s) for them, if any?
my fave is definitely harringrove. i haven't dipped my toe in mungrove, but i could be persuaded. platonically i love him being besties with heather and being bullied by a mean lesbian who isn't intimidated by his machismo attitude. as seen above, i really love him having a soft spot for erica, as well as jane. and being a "good" big bro to max.
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This is the Buddy for April 7th. I wanted to draw Buddy as a car, but that turned out to be too hard, so I made him a 1986 Toyota Camry instead.
I have a weird nostalgic appreciation for those dorky-looking "cars" from the 1980ies that look more like lego pieces than like aerodynamic vehicles. It's like one of those things that are so lame, they roll back into being cool again.
Cars like that one often make appearances in movies about the eighties by the likes of Nicolas W. Refn and Panos Cosmatos (as well as in the Duffer Bros.' Stranger Things show). And I do like all of those - I gotta give some due to Stranger Things, even though it's produced by Shawn Levy, whom I insulted yesterday - but it's funny how they try to paint the eighties as a cool era of neon lights and long-exposure photography, when the movies from the actual decade were cheap-looking, tacky messes of bright day scenes and choppy edits.
Cosmatos' wikipedia page mentioned him saying his movies are based on looking at cool VHS boxes and imagining what the movies would be like. I don't know, but, I think if he saw the actual movies, he'd be kind of disappointed. I know I was, when I first started watching Joe Dante's Explorers. That movie felt less like Stranger Things and more like an episode of Family Matters.
Just goes to show, nostalgia's often better than the thing itself.
Anyway, today's Buddy was traced from this Wikipedia picture:
#ab4es#drawing#trace#car#cars#pixar cars#toyota#toyota camry#1980s#Panos Cosmatos#nicolas winding refn#Shawn Levy#duffer brothers#Stranger Things#Joe Dante#Explorers#VHS#Family Matters
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Couple of things in response to your anon queries over the last few days:
- Joe’s playing a prominent recurring character in Fargo. He’s Gator Tillman, the son of the main character, corrupt sheriff Roy Tillman (John Hamm). You’ll be getting more than one episode, don’t worry about that! Also - and I’m sorry if you already know this, but just to clarify- it’s not set in 2019, not the old west. I think people got the cowboy idea because Noah Hawley wrote an (excellent) article for The Atlantic called “It’s High Noon in America,” which was both a political commentary, and a reflection on how entertainment contributes to issues like distrust of authority by creating heroes who go against the system etc. In it, he shared a sample of S5 dialogue between Roy and Gator, which mentioned “high noon”:
Gator: “I swear to God, him versus me, man to man, and I'd wipe the floor with him.”
Roy: “What, like high noon? That only happens in the movies, son. In real life they slit your throat waiting for the light to change.”
I mean, Joe might still be playing a cowboy-ish type character if he works on a ranch I suppose? But as far as I know, there’s nothing to suggest that’s the case.
- Joe is well positioned to have a great career after ST ends. I’m a bit puzzled as to why anyone’s concerned for him to be honest! Free Guy was very well received and many reviews specifically mentioned Joe’s charm and his lovely chemistry with Jodie. One critic even said - and I quote - “Joe Keery proves he’s going to be just fine when Stranger Things ends.” Add to that, although Spree was controversial, it was still received more positive reviews than less glowing ones (thanks, tomatometer), and even negative reviews of the film praised Joe’s performance.
So that’s recent history. Looking at his current work, he has two films in the can, is currently filming Fargo, then starts Cold Storage, and then in 2024 goes back to filming ST. The guy is as busy as an actor could hope for. Going forward, even if none of the films make an impact (and that’s a big ‘if’, because I suspect Cold Storage at least is going to do very well), Fargo will raise his profile even higher than it already is.
Oh, and then there’s his music. We all know he’s genuinely talented in that regard, and so do the critics. But he’s deliberately flown under the radar with it, and so many people are missing out. Djo doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page for crying out loud. Maya Hawke, who has less than a third of the Spotify listeners Djo has, has a wiki page for each album! No hate for Maya - her stuff’s not my thing but it’s cool. I just think Joe’s music manager (who’s different to his acting one) is sleeping on that front.
Sorry for the Joe Keery essay. I’m just a huge supporter because he’s so talented, and is also genuinely lovely. People who’ve worked with him want to do it again, in large part because of his personality. We know the combination of those traits is what changed the trajectory of his character in ST, which was a remarkable thing in of itself. David Harbour, Brett Gelman, and Kevin Pollack have all pointed out how unusual it was, and praised both Joe and the Duffer Bros for it. It’s kind of refreshing to see someone in Hollywood getting rewarded for being a decent person, in addition to having acting abilities.
Joe deserves every success. Long may it continue!
Oh wow thanks for all the info! I’ve never seen Fargo but man I will happily watch it to see him in it.
I’m so excited for him in Cold Storage. I ended up reading the book after someone on here told me it was actually a book first and Joe is just gonna nail the character. Teacake is such a loveable dork lol
I agree though! He’s been doing so good even without ST fame. He’s gotten some big projects coming up and a handful at that. Also his music to keep him busy too and it really is such a shame that his music is so underrated because his music really is so good 🥺
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Wayfinder for wip game? miss our boy Lucas!!
my boy!! he's having a rough time 😞 (*glares at the duffer bros.*)
He blinks his eyes open, and his eyelids feel gummy and slow. It takes him a few moments to get his bearings and really take in his surroundings. He’s sprawled out on a lumpy mattress on a trash strewn floor, and when he turns his head with a strained groaned he sees that Patrick is sprawled out next to him. Lucas sits up slowly, pushing himself upright on shaky elbows. He looks around, watching as other party goers in similar states of distress blink awake, or help stumbling friends out the front door. Lucas’ stomach heaves and he jumps up, nearly tripping over his own feet as he makes his ungainly way to the bathroom.
#wip wednesday#we're ignoring the fact that it's thursday night#read writes#wayfinder tag#lucas my beloved
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hi mona! i’ve read a few of your pieces before and loved them (specifically eddie hates tommy lee & three fucking weeks) but i’ve spent a few days now bingeing your rockstar!eddie masterlist and omfg… i’m so in love with what you write and how you write it. i think you’ve managed to portray eddie so perfectly; his experiences with fame, children and obviously love seems so genuine and true to character (or at least the version i have of him in my head). the relationship between eddie and reader is perfect in my eyes. it’s made me feel incredibly lonely reading about it but honestly very few pieces have had as much of an effect on me like your work does so i do mean that as a compliment. i can’t wait to read more of what you write (i’ll get round to love, lola eventually) and if you want requests for blurbs or fics let me know because your version of eddie has just invaded my brain. amy <3
AMY!! this has just made my little heart triple in size and burst. I don't even know what to say, this is so ridiculously kind and thoughtful and means so much to me. I've loved getting notifications this week each day seeing where you've got up to on the master list 🥹
I'm so glad you love my version of Eddie! I've never done fanfic before and hadn't written fiction since I was like 16 in school. Then I watched Stranger Things for the first time last year just before S4 Pt2 and was just ??? so awestruck with Eddie's character in a way I just have never been before and I'm 24! I felt like a little kid again. I got plenty of beef with Duffer bros but they really did something with Eddie and I'm not even sure they realised what they did but regardless it was just perfect and obviously Joseph Quinn's characterisation is a big part of it.
I just felt so invested in him and found myself reading fanfic for the first time ever. Then I made the Tommy post as a joke because I didn't like everyone thinking my precious baby Eddie would like him. Then I stuck with it and it's been so fun. I think Eddie throughout the show is continually shown as someone who's always felt lost and wishing for a real family and in turn seeks out those who seem lost to give them a family. And yeah I just wanted to give him that!
Writing it has been so fun and emotional and same, it makes me sad because I kind of created a dream man and relationship. It hits hard because Eddie is so in need of love and so full of it. So I write how I would want to be loved.
Love, Lola is like an alternate version of rockstar Eddie. If maybe things didn't work out so smoothly and he has to wait a little longer for his happy ending but it's okay because he will get it!
My inbox is just always open for anything related to Rockstar Eddie: requests, blurbs, prompts, questions, debates - whatever!! I have a bank of them waiting and I just go back and pick one to do every now and again when I feel ready to reveal that part of his and reader's story.
But eeep thank you so much for reading and for this beautiful message, it's made my month. I can't wait to have some time again next week to start writing again 💕🫶🥰🦝
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WAS STEVE CRYING WHEN HE WAS WATCHING NANCY COMFORT JONATHAN AS WILL WAS KNOCKED OUT ON THE COUCH ???
the way he sniffles a bit and then walks away ,,, what the fuck. duffer bros when i catch u ,,,,
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