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s t a r t r e k d e e p s p a c e n i n e created by rick berman, michael piller [second skin, s3ep5] 'I want you to know something. In spite of whatever I might have said, I realise now you're an honorable man. And I think your daughter must have loved you very much.' - kira
#star trek#star trek deep space nine#deep space nine#rick berman#Michael Piller#ds9 season 3#deep space nine season 3#ds9 second Skin#second Skin#lot: st ds9 season 3 ep 5/26 (ep 51/176)#nana visitor#Lawrence Pressman#kira nerys#Tekeny Ghemor#An Honorable Man
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DS9 3x05 Second Skin thoughts (I'm re-watching, so there may be future spoilers)
"If you must know I'm waiting for Major Kira." For a date, right???
"I'm kinda looking forward to it." <3 Even though you hate holosuites, because you're spending time with Jadzia, right? :P
OH IT'S THIS EPISODE.... Time to traumatise Kira again...
That fake fellow prisoner telling her he remembers her... that's terrifying, being made to doubt your own memories like that
Sisko being so soft with her <3
There's a Garak in this episode! :D
I think this episode was better the first time round with the suspense, but it is interesting knowing what's going on and seeing what manipulations are at play
"I was wondering if you'd like to join me for a late night snack." WE know that that's code for I have something important to tell you but Julian doesn't, so is Garak offering a late night snack just a normal enough thing for Julian, or is he just oblivious?
Interesting the connections here of Iliana being very artistic, while Nerys is awful at art despite her djarra
Oh man, knowing Ghemor is not pretending but really believes she's his daughter makes him so much more likeable throughout the episode.
Sisko is very good at blackmail.
(I feel cheated we didn't get Garak and Julian's conversation and skipped straight to this)
"I'll go along on your fool's errand, but I want one thing to be perfectly clear. I have no intention of sacrificing my life to save yours. If it looks like we're in danger of being captured, if there's any signs of trouble at all, you're on your own." // "Mister Garak, I believe that's the first completely honest thing you've ever said to me."
Ghemor is a Good Parent
Kira's distress, ohhhh Kira 💔
How DOES Entek know about her private memory? (Can the Obsidian Order instil memories like they say, and they just gave her this one, specific thing when she arrived on Cardassia?)
"he quarters on this vessel are rather claustrophobic." Oh, Garak, that's possibly not just an excuse...
"It was just something I overheard while hemming someone's trousers." Sometimes I think this sort of line is overused in fanfiction compared to canon, but actually, no, Garak really is like this All The Time XD
>>>>> Also, the use of trousers is pretty British English, right? It's almost like Garak's spending too much time hanging out with a Brit.... 👀
KIRA NO MY HEART
"You're my daughter, Iliana. There's nothing I wouldn't do for you. Even if it means losing you again." HE'S SO SOFT
Despite the Massive Stress she's under, Kira's still able to put everything together and work out what's really going on, what a legend <3
That Odo trick was Extremely Slick
"Don't worry, he's on our side... I think." XD Yeah, valid
Tekeny <3 "No I want you to have it" - so sweet
"I realise now you're an honourable man. And I think your daughter must have loved you very much." Oh Nerys. My heart. The Feelings this episode creates... ❤️❤️
Fantastic episode. Kira is everything <333333
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my fave game i imagine they play on ds9 is who’s gonna carry the odo bag this mission. do they draw straws? is it on rotation like a chore wheel? is it like an annoying punishment or does everyone lowkey want to be the one to carry their backpack buddy and throw him dramatically to reveal that it’s NOT a random satchel but in fact goo man
#rewatching thoughts#second skin#home front / paradise lost#to the death#etc.#deepspacehigh#deep space nine#ds9#star trek#odo
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I know technically every single alien in Star Trek is a human wearing alien makeup, but these never stop feeling less wrong. It's so uncanny to look at. Makes me afraid the entire Federation is going to get cancelled on space tumblr for multiple counts of alienface
#i know its not even considered offensive there but it should be yk#star trek tos#star trek tng#star trek ds9#romulans#second skin#reunification
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watched Second Skin and can't get over how Sisko just dumps Odo on the floor like some inanimate object. To be fair, Odo was an inanimate object, but that's besides the point, the THUNK
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yeah!! my first impression of this tendency of his is of being just pragmatism (and it's not not that) but i really like the framing of it as effective communication
#p#ds9#sorry for no alt text i saw it while clearing out notifs before setting my alarms and am kinda bone dead tired rn#if the picture is too small at the top its caps of the 'this is extortion' 'yes' exchange in second skin#like this idea as analogous to thoughts on quark being a Failed Ferengi is a result of his straddling multiple cultures' ideals too#THIS! is the shit i really like about ds9#sisko
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naturally kira nerys being kira nerys is the most fascinating and fulfilling possibility for 'second skin', and i love her so much.
however.
iliana ghemor sleeper-agent kira nerys slowly starting to remember snippets of a life as an obsidian order agent and legate's daughter in cardassia prime, and reintegrating that information into her current inner life?
there is something very interesting about that possibility. for what it means about choice and self-determination, about bajoran spirituality and faith - taking what the prophet's show you, and following their path in courage.
a great deal of possibilities, also. how much are the memories iliana's, how much from the surgeries and brainwashing etrek put her through?
whether she remembers it all, or only instants. perhaps if it is only that she feels the cold more keenly. her hands remember how to sculp bone, now, as jadzia remembered how to play after making peace with her murderous past life.
does it make a difference? it is up for her to decide what does make a difference. regardless of what she decides to believe, the strain is the same, a continuation of what every bajoran has known for fifty years - the oppressed being impressed upon by the memory of the oppressor.
kira nerys had a maybe-real mother who painted idols for the temple - she sculpts them, now, and the hopes and wishes and intent she puts into the work are her own, between her and the prophets.
iliana ghemor was loved and artistic and brilliant, and she is dead, she has been dead for ten years.
the world is better for it.
kira nerys? major kira as liberation to live for, and friends aplenty, and a duty roster to re-organize.
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DS9 S3 E5 - Second Skin
I wasn't sold on this episode until the last ten or so minutes but damn did it end up being a good one.
The idea of turning Kira into a Cardassian was simultaneously a very intriguing one that I was interested to see where it led but I was also very much not sold on it so it was just confusing. I kept thinking, this obviously isn't real so why are the writers putting us through this? What is the purpose?
Initially, I thought it was to learn some of Kira's past time secrets so they could use that against Bajor/The Federation but the real ending was so much better.
I can't tell you how many times I screamed "just hug this man!" in my head when Kira was interacting with the Legate. I admit I teared up when she was saying goodbye to him and he called her his family. The Legate was a damn good character that I'd be interested in seeing more of.
The B side plot with Garak was fun. I'm a fan of how savage Sisko is and how far he's willing to go to get things done, including blackmail. The show keeps warning me that Garak is a bad dude and I know he has a past but I can't see him as an actual villain. Maybe this is just me cause I have a thing for villains but I don't get proper villain vibes from him. More anti hero? I dunno. All I know is that I love him lol
8/10
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My attempts at capturing that gay lizards perfection
#that ugly chetta print shit he has going on in second skin#elim garak#deep space 9#deep space nine#ds9#ds9 garak#watercolor#traditional art
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s t a r t r e k d e e p s p a c e n i n e created by rick berman, michael piller Ari, Cardassian Underground [second skin, s3ep5]
#star trek#star trek deep space nine#deep space nine#rick berman#michael piller#star trek characters#ds9 character#Ari#billy burke#ds9 season 3#deep space nine season 3#ds9 Second Skin#Second Skin#lot: st ds9 season 3 ep 5/26 (ep 51/176)#latest ds9 posts
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Ghemor: Let me give you some advice: never ever trust Garak
Kira: lmao why don't you teach your grandmother how to suck eggs
#deep space nine second skin#honestly THAT'S his big ''fatherly'' advice he desperately needs to give her?? like kira would trust garak as far as molly could throw him#ds9 the garyalmor rewatch#my star trek (re)watch
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i made a title page for a magazine article; now all we need is someone to write the article on why kira nerys makes a more attractive cardassian than bajoran
i can't, i'm in the graphics department
#ds9#cardassians#kira nerys#bajoran#second skin#s3e5#fake magazine page#graphic design#magazines#i love you goodnight
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“The major is the least of ur trouble entek!! It’s me garak!!!”
#ds9#cardassians always falling for Garak’s tricks like that’s not why he’s on exile#for that reason#the great ds9 rewatch#yeha garak had to kill that guy or they would all be fucked politically#st#ep: second skin#garak#elim garak#3x05
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I know we passed around that post of the simulation novelization with Sisko recognizing Julian's hesitation to leave Garak as what he felt for Jennifer, but did they ever talk about it? I don't think Julian ever told Garak honestly- how could you tell someone that, someone you aren't supposed to trust, someone you know can take things and throw them back in your face- but did Sisko ever talk about that moment of self recognition?
#cipher talk#ds9#What's the name of this triangle? Garasiskoshir? Monstrosity of a name#It's not that I don't think Julian feels he can't trust Garak with that information so much as. Watching someone close to you die is a very#Raw feeling. Even if you're capable of being unmoved by injury and even death the way a doctor is#It's why you don't operate on loved ones. And factually yes; Garak could be cruel enough to twist that knife#Would he hate doing it? Who fucking knows. Depends on the circumstances I guess#Sisko is connected and removed in a way that could make talking about it easier. Connected in the aspect of recognition and witness#Removed in that he is not the person who died- though interestingly he also blackmails people (I doubt he would use this)#(Honestly I don't know how it could be useful at all its not a secret that they're close- the damage is purely interpersonal)#(Sisko doesn't extort or blackmail for personal grievances- it's basically entirely a professional tactic. Can you tell I rewatched#Second skin today)
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im thinking back to watching (i.e. being in the room while he watched) ds9 with my former/current roommate before i had any knowledge or investment in trek at all and the wide array of episodes i managed to see were of such a variety.......it was like the wire. civil defense 500 times. move along home. improbable cause. SECOND SKIN. and then every single ferengi episode ever made (specifically the magnificent ferengi) 500 separate times.
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thinks about major kira and her family and tekeny ghemor and
#just rewatched second skin and cried a bit#tekeny lost a daughter....... kira lost a father............ but for a while they could be each other's family............#when she cried on his knee. when he let her keep the bracelet#SOBBING INCONSOLABLE I'M SO SAD I LOVE THEM#star trek#ds9#kira nerys#tekeny ghemor
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