#dream allegations

[zee-143]

Watching Dreams explanation about the accusations and everything made me realize and rethink a lot. He was able to explain everything properly and clear with actual proof. If he is lying (which I honestly doubt) he is lying to himself, so that shouldn't be our business. But honestly I'm glad he actually took the time to explain and clarify everything as best as he could. I'm sure Dream will continue to get criticized, especially after the explanation video but I hope he grows and does his best as a person. I was personally a fan of Dream but after the accusations and what not, I stepped back. I was scared it was true but now I have hope for him. Stepping away from Twitter is a great choice and focusing more on what he loves is the best. I'm honestly sad for the victims involved in this who had literally nothing to do with anything. Really wishing the best as he learns from his mistakes and ignores the mistakes of others. 😖♥

[thesillyguyy]

I am currently taking a short break from a really heated video. I'm 54 minutes in, and honestly, the way I look at a certain streamer has changed drastically. If you know who it is, you know who it is. And I mean how I look at him in a positive way. I'm glad this can all be cleared up because this has been stressing me out so so much.

Before I was watching this video, I had been spending 3+ hours looking at multiple other videos and a couple of articles to research. Because many people in this Fandom, I guess, are uneducated and are going along with another person's opinion when they know as much as you, or even less.

I feel so much better about this topic, and I hope everyone else does too. But sadly, that won't happen because people will always try to find ways to prove this guy wrong. I feel so much better, and the truth is out. That's the important part.

[nobodyaskedformyopinion]

Let's all just grow tf up, please.

I don't understand why we're all so wrapped up in the lives of content creators as if they're more important than our own. Seriously, with the amount of discourse on the Dream situation in the past two days I feel like we've collectively wasted over a million hours on something that, at this point, has been talked in circles so much it's worn a goddamned hole in the space time continuum.

So let's do everyone a favor and follow this three step program:

1: Did you watch the video? No? Well, if you've got the time to be posting this much discourse you've got the time to watch it. And don't tell me you refuse to support someone that you hate, because if you aren't willing to listen to both sides of the story you are entirely unqualified to comment on it.

2: If you feel like you have something to say after watching the video, sure, make a post, I don't care. Obviously I did just that, I'm not going to be a hypocrite and tell people to stop talking about it entirely.

3: HOWEVER, once you've put in your two cents, for the love of god turn off the computer/put away your phone/step away from the Samsung smart fridge. Go outside. Clean your room. Hug your cat. Be a real human being instead of a faceless voice on the internet.

Fandom is a complicated place, it's wonderful to connect over your love of content but please let's remember to keep it about that instead of unfounded hatred. And always try to spend more of your day in the real world around you than in hungry-discourse-goblin mode. It's not healthy to take so much of your identity as a person from online spaces like this.

Right, now I'm going to follow my own advice and do some laundry. Maybe even shower... (still sick but finally getting better, I'm so glad I don't feel like a zombie anymore.)

[imaginemcyt]

an important message:

hello everyone, this has been coming for a little while now but i wasn't really sure how to approach it.

i will no longer be writing for dream.

after everything that's happened with the allegations against him (which he has yet to properly address), and the qsmp/usmp drama that he's currently fanning the flames of, i can no longer support or defend him. i have decided it will be best to distance myself from him as a creator.

you obviously do not have to agree with me at all! but for me, i will no longer be supporting or keeping up with dream.

i'm so sorry if anybody is upset by this, please don't start fights with me in the comments over it, as they will just be deleted. i will not be arguing about it or changing my mind.

with all that being said, i will post the remaining drafts i have including him soon (since i already put in the time and effort of making them) but nothing further will be written. i will keep his works up on my masterlist, but will not be taking any more requests for him.

sorry again to anyone who is upset by this, feel free to unfollow if you want to.

much love, annabeth

[thekarleffect]

[roseliatea26]

‘People only think dreams a bad person because he’s got unmediated ADHD’

Bro… wtf

I’m neurodivergent as fuck and I’m not racist, misogynistic, antisemitic and a groomer

It’s not an excuse. If you still want to support him I don’t really care either way but it’s creating a harmful ideology that neurodivergent people shouldn’t be held responsible for their actions just due to their brain chemistry.

YOU CAN STILL DO SOMETHING WRONG AND BE NEURODIVERGENT

And by saying that it’s an excuse you are dehumanising and infaltilzing us by implying. That our thoughts and opinions are not our own and are just a product of our disability

[antimony-medusa]

for that drop in dsmp fic-- october is when the allegations about dream first came out, so i would say that's probably a pretty big factor in fic writing slowing down

That is a potential factor, but I believe the allegations were on the 11th, and I pulled stats on the 15th, so I assume that that wouldn't impact that many fics being not written. Could be fics pulled down though? It's as good a theory as any.

[davilasinfiltro]

…do people think there’s actually going to be a trial about the dream shit. There’s nothing a court of law can accuse him of 💀

Not saying you can’t feel a certain way about what he did but he didn’t break any laws, there’s no case.

[insaneinsan101]

Me: *finds a cool-looking ao3 fic with positive interactions between Dream and Tommy* :o

Story, in most recent chapter: "Okay so because of the allegations against Dream I have to drop the fi-"

Me: *exits* Shit, and it looked like a good story too.

[thehealingsystem]

tried to make sense of the dream situation biggest mistake in my life

[starsoftheeye]

dream exclusively referring to tubbo as "tommys best friend" and calling him tommy SIX TIMES on stream ohhhhh he's never beating the "doesn't see tubbo as an individual" allegations

[zee-143]

Did you see the “Amanda is a freak” trending on Twitter? Eyebrow raising, truly.

What?! I didn't see but that's... Interesting. Honestly, I don't think it should happen. I don't believe Dream was attacking Amanda but it seems people are taking it that way. I think it's good that she's getting a taste of her own medicine but isn't being called a freak a little much? I dunno. My general opinion. Just hope Amanda learns to fix her own problems instead of causing problems for others 😞

[oleryn]

These Are Not Micker Mouse: A breakdown of the Mangoball characters through the lens of Commedia Dell’Arte (by a dramaturg wannabe with too much time on their hands)

In the wake of the Dream SMP’s recent revival brought on by Dream’s latest and greatest tomfoolery, one of the most iconic, unifying, yet hitherto unknown figures of the fandom has finally made themselves known – Mangoball ( @girl-hemingway ), creator of the viral semi-eponymous SocMed AU that took the fandom by storm in 2021-2022. With its cartoonishly zany characters and hilarious one-liners, Mangoball quickly rose the ranks of popular DSMP fanfictions and remains to this day a pleasant, hilarious read that is enjoyable even if you hate the controversial content creators therein. Obligatory fuck the Dteam and Wilbur Soot. Anything good I say about their characters is a positive reflection of Mangoball’s talent and not the content creators themselves. 

In this tumblr post, the author mentions Commedia Dell’arte (16-18th century Italian theatre) as a resource for writing crack fanfiction. That lit my theatre kid neurons up like Tubbo on October 16th, 2020 and so this essay was born. Enjoy my in-depth breakdown of the Mangoball characters through the lens of some of theatre’s most iconic archetypes. however im not a professional and im also not sober so if anything is wrong please just send a bomb to my house or somethingg

NOTE: While some characters or pairings are likened to specific archetypes, most of Mangoball’s characters are a mix of several. 

GLI INNAMORATI - THE LOVERS

This one is obvious. No one in Mangoball’s Cheater Cheater (henceforth known as MB because I’m lazy) embodies the archetype of The Lovers more than its main pairing, Dreamnotfound.

In classic Commedia, the relationship between the Innamorati is the driving force of the entire story. They are often of high status and speak in flamboyant, flowery language; at times, they recite long poetry at length from memory and tend to sing quite often. Brought to foolishness by their hopeless infatuation for one another, the lovers often have no other personality traits besides being in love.

In MB, Dream and George are the hapless romantic leads fraught with drama and miscommunication that threatens to tear them apart. Their dialogue to and about each other borders on incomprehensibly romantic (e.g. goopsie skaboingy, boinky splurge, weeble wobble, skrunkly scribblydoinky bipsy tootsy badointy tiepnsy bip bop boppie goggiy dinty scruggly duggly big bampidointy dougly goopsie scaboinky pipupsy datootsit) and both characters associate themselves with poetry, song and dance, and other lofty forms of prose throughout the work (Dream singing the entire Mama Mia soundtrack after sleeping with George for the first time, reciting Romeo and Juliet sonnets to George despite having never read the play, George texting Quackity the La La Land script line by line by memory). They have little other personality besides the infatuation they hold for each other, but that doesn’t stop them from being enjoyable and hilarious leads that we as readers can’t help but root for.

VECCHI - THE VILLAINS

Though the Italian word Vecchi translates literally to ‘old men’, the Vecchi class of Commedia Dell’Arte characters serve as villains or opponents to the Innamorati. They are usually older characters that use their positions of power for selfish or immoral reasons. This doesn’t translate as clearly to MB as the Innamorati do, but that doesn’t mean that the story is free of Vecchi influences. Sapnap and Tommy are the story’s primary villains – Sapnap for his status as romantic rival to DNF; Tommy for his single-minded hatred of Dream that leads him to create increasingly popular Twitter spaces for the sole purpose of insulting him. Sapnap’s character is marked by his jealousy, his dishonesty, and the continued schemes he pulls to get between the main lovers. He is also the butt of several ratios and is generally regarded as a nuisance. Some of these traits are found in the Pantaleone character – although Sapnap does not possess the miserly money-hungriness that Pantaleone is known for. Anselmo is a lesser-known stock character characterized as a veccho-innamorati, or a romantic rival, but that is the extent of Sapnap’s relation to him. Il Dottore is also sometimes characterized as an adulterer, but like with Pantaleone, Sapnap lacks Dottore’s iconic traits (in his case, being a parody of the educated elite who regularly talks confidently about stuff he knows nothing about and bores the other characters offstage.)

I don’t think any Commedia character possesses such intense hatred for another character as Tommy does for Dream. He’s less of a Vecchi and moreso of a complete foil to the Innamorati – a total and utter hater, largely a flat character beyond his negative feelings for his former Compsci tutor. An Innaodio? That kid will stop at nothing to destroy Dream. I don’t think it’s even explained why Tommy hates him so much beyond his annoyance for Dream’s affections for George. 

Honestly, maybe that’s enough to warrant some hatred.

ZANNI — THE ROOMMATES

Karl, Quackity, Corpse, Wilbur, and the elusive Badboyhalo are all part of the Zanni class of Commedia characters. The Zanni characters are traditionally the low-class servants of the higher-status Vecchi or Innamorati. Usually found in pairs, they are often separated into the silly and buffoonish and then into the cunning, quarrelsome, and conniving. In Mangoball, they’re the roommates/sidekicks of our main leads… apart from Badboyhalo. We’ll get back to him. 

Karl and Quackity are George’s roommates; Corpse is Dream’s. Corpse is a somewhat judgemental watcher of Dream’s antics, not afraid to stir up drama or join Tommy’s hateful lives, and yet remains supportive of him overall. He is also the subject of Wilbur's odd romantic advances. Quackity regularly acts like he wants to actually kill himself over George’s romantic endeavours and regularly threatens the trio with violence or piss-related crimes (e.g. okay but im peeing on the couch!). Karl, as arguably the most rational character of the entire work, is often kinder to George than Quackity is, though his normalcy often leads to him being ridiculed (e.g. the entire group unanimously agreeing that he is the craziest among them for doing such things as eating an orange). Quackity and Karl are also the only ones to break the fourth wall and call out the story for its texting-only medium. In all honesty, they’re too smart (and not horny enough) to fit most of the Zanni archetypes. I would consider them the straight men of the work. Most of their comedy comes from their reactions to what’s going on around them.

Nothing sums up their characters more than this iconic bit:

SPECIAL MENTIONS - WILBUR

The Arlecchino, or Harlequin, archetype is the base for most fool/clown characters that have risen to prominence over the course of history and is a comedic bastion in any Commedia production. Colourful and acrobatic, Arlecchino oscillates between legendary dim-wittedness and a single-minded dedication to achieving his goals. He is often abused by smarter characters, easily distracted by lust and food, and will foray into the complicated, the absurd, and the illegal to get what he wants without a second thought. While what usually sets Arlecchino apart from other Commedia archetypes is his acrobatic prowess, that doesn’t exactly translate well into written prose. 

Mangoball’s Wilbur is a proven criminal, a buffoon, and also implied to be a literal alien. While hardly tolerated by the rest of the crew, he's also responsible for several of Mangoball’s iconic lines. His character is always one step behind the joke (e.g. ‘These are not micker mouse?’ – his inability to understand well-known Disney characters, which he blames on being British) and, at random intervals, acts romantically or sexually towards Corpse without any prompting. His advances go largely rejected or ignored. The other crew members frequently bully him for his antics (e.g. them letting him starve for 20 hours during the road trip) and yet make use of his complete disregard for the law when is beneficial for the plot (e.g. him breaking into a Miami villa and loaning it to two groups simultaneously without realizing). Overall, Mangoball’s Wilbur is integral to highlighting the comedic contrast between the more rational characters and the insane situations they find themselves in. He proves himself as a driving comedic force with the final tweet of the original work.

SPECIAL MENTIONS - BADBOYHALO

fuck if i know genuinely. no one in the history of ever is doing it like him im beign so serious what the ffuck is wrong with him geniunely

he;s fuckign everyones mother. hes eeveryones dad. hes your dad. hes my dad too i thjink. guys i hve to go call my mother rightnow im sorryyyy

[imaginemcyt]

wait hold up what are the dream allegations? like i know the whole drama that was going on last year with him but what are the current ones?

(tw: gr00ming)

when i say allegations im talking about the gr00ming allegations from like october/november that he has yet to properly address. he made a twitlonger thing on his private that basically just said "no i didn't do it wasn't me". he put more effort into the essay he wrote on reddit about why it hurts his brand to screenshot his snaps on snapchat than he did into addressing the literal gr00ming accusations against him.

you are free to disagree with me, but i am always on the side of the victims until it can be proven that they lied.

as for the current drama, quackity made the qsmp, which is the first multilingual smp with live translation. dream then announced his plans for the usmp, the "first multilingual smp with live translation". this obviously upset quackity's fanbase because it's not the first, and it really just looked like dream was trying to steal the spotlight and one up q, especially since he announced his new server within like a week of qsmp's successful launch. not to mention that for quackity this is a passion project, he's bringing his two cultures and friends from those cultures together. for dream, it's basically just a cash grab and possibly to save face from the allegations.

dream has been stirring the pot, fanning the flames of this "drama", by replying to everything q says about qsmp with something like "great minds think alike ahaha" or straight up tweeting "im kickboxing quackity". he's begging for big q's attention so bad, and quackity hasn't said anything on it, which is probably the mature thing to do in this situation. tbh he's stronger than me, i'd lose it. while probably not cancel-worthy, this amongst the other things he's done is just a major ick for me and lots of others.

oh and not to mention george and sapnap mocking the situation and the qsmp with immature and pointed tweets, including the misogyny of george's "slut smp" tweet. but apparently george is just a misogynist, since he excused sexual harassment on a podcast yesterday by saying "well what if they're drunk".

tldr: he's a potential gr00mer, hasn't really said anything about it, and now he wants to steal the spotlight from another cc and make drama from it. his friends are helping him, and his stans think he's some kind of hero for it.

[dagwmeno]

Mom!!the siblings are fighting again!!!!

[shortbreadly]

raine’s palisman confirmed!! what are we naming them lads?