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Taps cheek. Must confess I feel like some people haven't been approaching the fandom the way I have, and I am sorely realizing this now.
Y'all, the VAs here see you. If you are publically posting hate about a character–especially in the main tags or in their inbox–there is a very real chance that the person who plays that character will see you. They are not disconnected entities that hover above everything in their own fandom, they engage in it. They have strong feelings about their own characters too, they made them. And everyone being excessively foul about them and their character is not the kinda takeaway they wanna see!!
So. Perhaps. It would be more constructive for people to either learn to be nicer or to just shut up if I'm being quite honest.
#xero says things#i dont usually talk abt the meta happenings of the show but like#this is rooted in a topic i have a lot of feelings abt. which is how ppl treat artists and how ppl seem meaner than ever#i have always made an active effort whole posting abt these shows to not sound like i am hating on it#even before i know the VAs looked at the fandom!#just bc i figured if someone else saw me talking trash abt their faves it wouldn't ruin their day yk#and thinking about how someone literally went out of their way to send multiple paragraphs of hate directly into kat's inbox is.#more than a little upsetting#these are people. not content machines. just bc their company makes them do daily vids like they are doesn't mean you should roll with that#i feel for kat so much and i genuinely hope things get kinder and easier for her. i don't blame her for doing this at all#sun and moon show#lunar and earth show#tsams#tlaes
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I am once again thinking about how odysseus who witnessed the horrors that the captured women went through (one of his main duties in the iliad was taking the women back home and making sure they were as comfortable as possible and safe because he was the only one trusted not to violate them further due to his devotion to penelope. And in the odyssey part of the reason circe sent him to the underworld was so that he'd have to listen to all these women's stories (before he could talk to the prophet) ). Who was one of the few that saw women as people and respected their space and opinions. And was then put in those exact same situations. I don't have the motivation right now to do a full literary analysis of this (I'll site the sources too) but oh man one day I'm going to write a full essay on this.
#The odyssey#iliad#Odysseus#Tw: rape#Tw: sex slaves#Tw: camp slaves#Tw: That one time Calypso kept odysseus as a sex slave for 7 years#circe#Something about the inherent trauma of witnessing how your friends treat women#Watching them keep sex slaves#Then having to bring these girls home hearing about their stories seeing the aftermath#Then living in a situation where you have to let a powerful witch use you as she pleases half in payment for lives/food/medicine#Half because she has the equivalent of a gun to your best friends head and if you don't keep her happy then youre all dead#And then that witch sends you on a quest to the underworld where granted you'll benefit too but first#You have to listen to every single captured women from the Trojan war that you didn't Shepard home tell you their stories#Tell you that you're a horrible person while you are living in a disturbingly similar situation#And then later finding yourself trapped as a sex slave for seven years to an immortal nymph#And then being labeled as a horrible cheater for the rest of history#And none of this well historically everybody cheated or it's up to interpretation bullshit#Because it fucking isn't and granted a lot of abridged versions skip this shit#But if you read the full original stories and still think odysseus cheated then you just have an issue with men being victims#Or weren't paying attention i guess#Where's that meme where's it like the text was up to interpretation cut to the text where it very bluntly states what's happening#And I'm not saying odysseus was a good person or that he didn't have slaves because he did. And he wasnt#But first off nobody deserves to suffer that violation#Second they weren't sex slaves they were all nurses/maids/spys and I'm not getting into the ancient culture slavery issues rn#Third there's a lot you can pick to hate odysseus for but cheating/disrespecting women wasn't one of them#They literally invented a new word to describe his and penelopes love and it means to be so in love that you think the exact same way#Also forcing this narrative of odysseus cheating and penelope leaving to be a single girl boss is#Just the fake feminist mindset that stay at home moms are weak and wrong and live awful lives
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"Rhaenyra isn't the stepmother, she's the mother who stepped up!"
The HOTD writers themselves are hardly doing anything to support that narrative, so I take this rhetoric with a grain of salt. While I think, in some way, Rhaenyra does care for Baela and Rhaena....if I had to point out a motherly figure for them that could pose as someone stepping in Laena's place, Rhaenyra would not be it.
#house of the dragon#hotd#hotd critical#rhaenyra targaryen critical#baela targaryen#rhaena targaryen#this mainly just comes from my frustration with this fandom painting rhae as overly motherly toward baela & rhaena#making it seem like we had so much to go on for her being a good stepmother when it's really the bear minimum#there's more with rhaenys being there for them than with rhae--- both physically & verbally#even with scenes where she's with them: for baela it holds more of political means with her having a dragon and then using her to see corly#like sure she could be concerned about her well-being but it's definitely not on the same level as with her sons#don't even get me started on with rhaena bc that “be a mother to them” line had me 🤬#and her referring to her sons as hers and the pain of sending them away but not adhering to rhaena's emotional needs and feelings of inferi#rity--- like it didn't sit right with me especially when she couldn't even be bothered to hug her#i like to enjoy headcanons about their relationship but the canon material doesn't stray far either#rhaenys raised baela alongside her on driftmark she sought rhaena out when they met after so long#she advocated for rhaena to her husband over joffery--- she's their grandMOTHER that stepped up tbh#tbh i wouldn't really be rocking with my stepmom if she sought after & slept with my dad at my mom & stillborn brother's funeral#barely comforted my sister and i when we were injured in a fight (only her sons)#then got married to said father not long after said funeral...like i'd be pressed tbh!#dni if you can't have a collected conversation about this#rhaenys targaryen#(also just bc im a little critical of rhae doesn't mean i hate her in comparison to others she's not that bad tbh)
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nemona feels like an obscure blorbo instead of the main rival character from the latest pokemon game because to get to her really good content from people who really get it, you first have to wade through the ocean of yandere pervert obsessive stalker annoying punchable bimbo amazon goddess interpretations of...
... a neurodivergent and possibly disabled high schooler who's desperately trying to make any friends or get any support from her rich neglectful family - while everyone in her school is jealous of their own imagined version of a privileged asshole version of her they made up - who deeply and platonically loves and supports the one new kid who agreed to take the time to get to know and respect her and her special interest without having to hold back her true self
unlike her, it's not great!
kinda feels like she has the same problem in our world that she does in hers.
#(except much hornier)#i hate to say it but i think her skin color has something to do with it#nemona pokemon#nemona#pokemon sv#pokemon scarvio#pokemon scarlet and violet#pokemon#nemonaposting#dog girl and goku memes are fine i guess#i legitimately cannot google her without a video of someone being cruel to her on purpose and making her visibly sad coming up#i don't think people like that really browse these tags but i hope they're not the reason she was not in the dlc footage at all#and thus may never get more screen time to actually be her best friend's 'rival for life' as promised before the 3 year cycle marches on#you know the dlc about nemona's best friend and 'greatest treasure' transferring to a school about the hardcore battles she's dying without#potentially abandoning her and sending her back to almost square one on having a reason to enjoy life#don't get me started yelling about that again#also i didn't mean platonically in a don't ship them kind of way you should absolutely do that if it lines up with your interpretations#i usually do in fact#just trying to emphasize the contrast between canon and fanart here#opinions of her already start off so low faith just because she's from the 10 fps pokemon game and i'll be real i wish she wasn't#i wish she and her friends were somewhere i could trust that they would be treated respectfully by their copyright holders
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Pochontas (1995)
wiggins meta under the cut
here's the thing: ratcliffe is constantly being explained as a representation of the forces of greed and racism and colonialism/imperialism (arguably this can translate to capitalism as well), but what about wiggins? what is his role? he most obviously plays the role of the Fool, and provides a character for ratcliffe to have consistent dialogue with. but what does he represent?
i have a theory that wiggins is meant to represent the ethnic english, the culture of the english, and the willing servitude of the english to the evils of imperialism/greed/racism in exchange for a sense of superiority and security. wiggins is, paradoxically, both above and below the settlers in terms of status. he's a servant, but he serves the highest ranking man there. he's a yes-man, but he's also brutally truthful (spelling out for the audience ratcliffe's motivations and the immorality of the settler's presence and actions).
wiggins is also a caricature of the english to a T: he resembles many a self-styled stereotype of the typical englishman in english comedies. he's prim, a bit fussy, obsessed with gardening, a bit oblivious and silly and somewhat incessantly cheery. he's drawn, also, like an english caricature. his teeth and upturned nose in particular stand out to me.
the line "and he came so highly recommended" from each of these characters is so fascinating because of this because it highlights the mutual consent of these two allegorical characters to be involved with each other and subscribe to a master-servant dynamic, wherein ratcliffe has invested in wiggins to be useful and efficient, and wiggins has invested in ratcliffe to provide security both financially and socially. ratcliffe find's wiggins's personality (the cultural quirks of the english) trite and unnecessary. wiggins found ratcliffe's extremity to ultimately be outside of his own best interests once it could no longer protect him (ratcliffe being no longer able to provide the status and security once he was put in chains).
we can't be sure if wiggins has truly learned a lesson, however. he remains in America with some of the other settlers instead of returning to his homeland. we don't know what he intends to do there, or why he's made this choice. perhaps he's going to try turning over a new leaf and assimilate to a new society. perhaps he's going to try and influence his way into a similar position as before. in any case, we know wiggins's core motive is always going to be self-preservation. what that looks like without ratcliffe and the protections of aggressive imperialism, we simply don't know.
#i'm saying post-movie pocahontas has her work cut out for her with guys like wiggins still around#these two and their dynamic sits in my brain like mold fr fr#pocahontas (1995)#disney's pocahontas#disney ratcliffe#disney wiggins#ratcliffe#wiggins#governor ratcliffe#pocahontasedit#pocahontasgif#disneyedit#disneygif#fyeahpocahontas#disneyfeverdaily#disney animation#help i'm hyperanalyzing disney's pocahontas again#queso*edit#queso*gif#the ending of pocahontas is tragic in more than one way and this is one of those ways#like. there's no end to the conflict. not really#they got rid of one very aggressive problem in sending ratcliffe back#but a good number of the settlers are staying and the only powhatan they respect in any capacity is pocahontas#and the powhatan are sure as shit not gonna trust the settlers. they'll follow the chief's lead#on establishing good will first but i can't imagine they'll like it#peace is 100% not achieved and the lovers don't get to be together and pocahontas has to give up a LOT to shoulder a massive burden#and on top of it you got guys like wiggins who are total wild cards honestly#whose motives for staying are SUPER unclear#godddddd this movie fucking destroys me so bad i love it i hate it i want to eat i t
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In your opinion would Katniss accept other people besides her insulting or disrespecting hijacked Peeta?
We see this in canon. Nope.
Katniss hears Gale as well as the other soldiers say things about hijacked Peeta. There's a limit to what she'll let slide. 'Oh, he's a capitol mutt /we can't trust him,' passes but it is still stretching it. 'Let's kill him!' Now, motherfucker, you back the fuck up. That kind of thing.
She's not going to be okay with anyone outright antagonizing him for no actual reason, regardless of what state Peeta's in. She thinks she 'owes' him that much, at the very least.
But then, she also doesn't seem to want people agitating him. If there are moments where Peeta starts to struggle with his own mind and someone makes it worse, she's not going to like that. Think about when they're in the star squad or even the cafeteria scene, Katniss hates seeing him like that because it hurts her. She might be misdirecting her emotions towards being unfair to him, but that doesn't mean she gets any joy out of watching him suffer. It's the opposite, it makes her feel awful, like it's her fault.
So in short no, there's no universe where Katniss is okay with anyone treating Peeta badly, especially in front of her. It will always affect her because he's rooted himself somewhere deep inside of her and she can't seem to get him out. That's for life baby!
#Katniss when she see's capitol gossip about her secretly hating Peeta: That could NEVER be me#everytime Katniss gets upset with Peeta it seems to end with her feeling bad about being mean to him lol#Even though she's never all that mean. At most she just does certain things that go against Peeta's limits (if we don't include Mockingjay)#Like not telling him things that matter which triggers Peeta's 'you think I'm stupid huh?' reaction#Or freezing him out which triggers Peeta's 'Well who needs to talk to you anyways' reaction#Or just failing to consider the emotional impact of her erratic decision making which just makes him blue#which is basically the same thing as a direct hit to her heart.#the hunger games#everlark#thg#peeta mellark#katniss everdeen#send asks#send asks!!#katniss and peeta
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Don't think I'll ever forget how y'all bitches villified Camila Noceda and made her out to be an abusive parent for literally no reason other than racism
#she had like one minute of screentime in that first episode#where she literally did nothing wrong#and people immediately started calling her an abusive parent#'oh but she made luz throw her book away'#'oh but she was sending luz to reality check camp'#first of all#she didn't make luz do anything#luz threw her book away from her on volition#also#luz literally brought LIVE SNAKES TO SCHOOL AND WAS BRINING A GIANT ASS FIRECRACKER WITH HER TO CAMP#love luz#not her finest moment#'oh but she forced luz to promise to stay in the human realm'#she literally found out that her daughter had been lying to her all summer#got told to her face that she wanted to run away from home#and that her daughter had been staying in A DEMON REALM#of course she was upset and acting emotionally#you bitches didn't like her until the show force fed you her side of the story#which to me had been glaringly obvious from the start#it was so obvious that she loved her daughter#you guys just love to villify poc#especially latina women#women of color in general really#don't even get me started on how people treated her in comparison to alador and odalia#camila noceda they could have never made me hate you#fandom racism#camila noceda#the owl house
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Lanyan my babygirl,I wish people would treat you more than who they ship you with (when she finally release)
#I understand thumbstacking her to a ship is a way to keep her relevant#but after the shippers on tiktok already causing drama#I sincerely hope people don't reduce her to a love interest when she's out#listen I like my bro gaming too as much as the next guy#them being childhood friends are super sweet#can't wait to witness their dynamic#but please I beg you gaming x lanyan shippers on tiktok#stop being the ship police to other completely legal ships#it goes both ways#don't send hate and don't accept hate#you deserve better than to engage in an argument over which pixels should kiss which pixel#and you deserve better than to be angry at someone who's wasting your time over how boring your ship is#I hope I don't come off as a hater#like I genuinely hope lanyan isn't remembered for the discourse that surrounds her when she's finally out#(a mean part of me wishes she's aroace coded so the toxic tiktok people can finally shut up)#(but that would be unfair to normal shippers that's just doing their own thing#yet again genshin tiktok proves to be the most braindead community imaginable#lan yan#genshin lanyan#lanyan genshin#genshin impact#shipping discourse#not a reblog
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(The audio: "Of all the things in the world that have never happened, that has never happened the most. That is the most didn't happen shit of all time")
Meanwhile, the comments:
I'm glad some people aren't completely ignorant. Izuku didn't hate Bakugou because the narrative wouldn't allow him to feel even the tiniest bit of resentment. But Bakugou absolutely hated Izuku (in fact, didn't he himself say this??). Denying that is so unfair to Izuku who suffered abuse from him for a decade. If Bakugou didn't hate Izuku and still did what he did, that just makes him look worse. How do these people still not get it?
The comments were actually a breath of fresh air. It feels like the Final War being so terribly written is finally opening people's eyes to the faults in other aspects of the story like Izuku's toxic relationship with Bakugou. Or at least, they're aware enough to shut down nonsense like this.
Rare MHA fandom W
#anti bakugou katsuki#mha critical#bnha critical#anti bakudeku#anti bakugou stans#anti bakudeku shippers#idk if this girl is a bkdk shipper but she's giving off that energy#she also defended the ending because of course she did💀#pls don't attack her though#i know we aren't like that here but just to be safe#pls don't send hate to the op
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Overhated Female Character x Underused Female Character [Patreon | Commissions]
#If I see any Pulaski hate on this post I'm gonna lose it#Selar#Pulaski#Doctor Selar#Doctor Pulaski#been watching tng and I really don't know why people hate pulaski so much#just watched an episode where she was like 'I hate this dude...Data!!! Kick his ass in space 3d chess!!!' and I laughed#unless there's an episode I haven't gotten to yet where she like sends Data to the electric chair I do nooot understand#but I mean people wanted T'Pring dead for not wanting to marry Spock so you know#to me Pulaski is much more interesting than Beverely - she has a certain energy to her that I like#watched an episode the other day where she fought tooth & nail to do something dangerous and when it turned out she was wrong she accepted#it and was like 'ok. I guess I'm dying now. I knew the risks v_v' and I liked her right away (first episode I saw her in)#anyway yuri between two women who never interact in canon save me#tng#star trek tng
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the idea that Alicent sent Daeron away just before Rhaenyra had Joffrey makes the extent of Alicent's cruelty towards Rhaenyra in episode six make more sense. Asking for the baby to be immediately ripped from his mothers arms the minute he was born to check if he was another bastard was just unnecessarily cruel, particularly because Alicent could have sent someone to examine the child or gone down herself, it seemed cruel even considering the resentment and hatred that had obviously built up between them. However if Alicent had just had her baby, her youngest most innocent son, taken away ultimately because of the Targaryens, because even if she fully made the choice it would have likely been made out of fear, paranoia and the fact that she was struggling and raising those kids alone while Rhaenyra had a whole support system which included Viserys who loved his bastard grandsons more than his trueborn sons. Maybe the loss of Daeron added a new layer of anger and she cruelly wanted to inflict that pain of having your child taken from you onto Rhaenyra, just briefly, so she ordered for Joffrey to be brought to her the minute he was born.
#I know they have the lazy excuse of the time jump to explain alicent becoming cruel over time but that seemed a lot even for her#the way she acted in 1x06 overall definitely makes more sense with the added context of her recently having to send her young son away#alicent hightower#house of the dragon#I saw a good take recently that said episode 6 and 7 happened in the wrong order and that driftmarks events should have happened first#then after driftmark alicent becomes more cruel and hateful towards Rhaenyra which would make sense#not that I don't think alicent being cruel after 10 years of resentment is ooc but the level of cruelty should have amped up after driftmar
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I need to bite Kim Dokja like a toy and shake him around
#and then curl up around him when I'm done#he's not moving from there#if nobody gets me I know Suki gets me#(suki is my dog who does this all the time with her fox plushie and she's so right to do so)#going insane in the middle of computer structure class#I need more fics to read please send fics T-T#orv#nelkey's stuff#I hate computer structure I don't like classes where I can't code T-T
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you know what, fuck it. time to post stuff for my in stars and time club penguin crossover because i'm cringe and free
Agent/Ace as Siffrin Rookie as Mirabelle Dot as Isabeau Sensei as Odile Klutzy as Bonnie
there's more characters i have as penguins but those are the main party!
agent is created by @tofudemaru
also ISAT spoilers below:
ace getting a little quirky and mal du pays ace
#meepo art#club penguin#penguinronpa#in stars and time#ISAT club penguin au#agent penguinronpa#rookie#dot the disguise gal#sensei#klutzy the crab#okay so. tags notes:#yes i know it's funny to make any character a crab in an au for a universe where crabs are hated#and funnier given how many times bonnie says crab in the game#but it made sense given who siffrin was in this au!!!#jet pack guy would have made equal sense as isabeau and jpg would be isa if rookie was siffrin#but i went with dot because dotgent and the surprising amount of things they have in common#and of course. agent siffrin isn't just because protags™#these two motherfuckers have a shocking amount in common that i don't want to get into because i'm already clogging my damn tags#send me an ask if you want more info about au idk#and one more thing. i would tag insertdisc5 but yet again. it would too embarassing to tag her in a club penguin related about her game lma
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I'm always emotional about the fact that, when Minkowski tries to justify her choice to send Eiffel back to Earth on the Sol in the finale, she never directly expresses a reason for her decision that's specific to him.
She tells Hera, Lovelace and Jacobi "If - if - we don't make it through this... if we don't stop this... people need to know what's coming. They need to know what's happened." She gives them a reason which is logical, practical, and impersonal. It's a 'big picture' reason, focused on humanity as a whole. Minkowski's own emotions don't really enter into this justification at all. That's the kind of decision-making she wants her crew to think she's using. If this was Minkowski's main motivation, it wouldn't matter who was sent back, so long as they could explain Cutter and Pryce's plan. I don't think Hera, Lovelace, or Jacobi believe that this was the main reason why Minkowski sent Eiffel back, and I'm not sure whether Minkowski expected to actually convince them.
Jacobi asks "did you tell him that before or after you sent him on his merry?" But in fact, Minkowski didn't tell Eiffel at any point that he needed to tell the world about events on the Hephaestus. If her primary motivation had been about having someone to deliver a message back to Earth, she would have given Eiffel suitable instructions - she wouldn't have just trusted him to figure it out.
Instead, the most direct reason she gives to Eiffel himself for why she's sending him back to Earth is "I need to know that at least one of us makes it back. That I got someone through this." This is a more personal reason, where Minkowski's emotions are relevant, but it's still not explicitly about Eiffel himself. It's about saving "at least one of us", as if it doesn't matter who that "somebody" is. I think this justification is closer to the core of Minkowski's motivations than what she tells the others afterwards. Her responsibilities to her crew as a Commander have always been important to her, and she doesn't want to have failed in keeping them safe. And Eiffel is the only member of her original crew who she's able to save in this way. Hilbert is dead, and transferring Hera over to the Sol to be sent back to Earth on her own would come with a whole host of problems.
But I don't believe for a moment that the reasons she sends Eiffel back are purely practical and abstract. I don't believe for a moment there's no personal significance to her decision to save him specifically. I don't believe for a moment that it was all about her practical plan for the wellbeing of humanity, or her desire to have fulfilled her duty to at least one non-specific member of her crew. She doesn't just need to save "someone". She doesn't just need to save "at least one of us". She needs to save Eiffel. She needs to save her friend.
The closest she gets to saying aloud that her motivation is about her care for Eiffel in particular is when she says "Go home, Eiffel. Hug your daughter. [...] Goodbye, Doug." She was prepared for those to be the last words she might ever say to him. And there's at least something in these lines that implies she wants Eiffel specifically to return to Earth. I don't think it's that she saves him because he has a daughter. I think when she tells him to go home and hug his daughter, it represents more than that. It's about how she wants him to be able to move forward and live his life. It's her saying that he deserves the interpersonal connections that are valuable to him. It's about her not wanting his story to end there on the Hephaestus.
It kind of breaks my heart that even in that situation, she can't fully say aloud that the reason she wants Eiffel to survive is because she cares about him specifically. She has to give the justifications that are about her as a Commander and not about Eiffel as her friend. She doesn't tell him that she's saving him for his own sake, because he matters to her so deeply, because his safety is so important to her.
And I really wish I could believe that Eiffel didn't need her to say it, that he could just understand just from her actions how much she cares about him. But as the Sol flies away from the Hephaestus, he tells himself that he's there because he "never had quite as much chest hair as Lieutenant Commander Renée [Minkowski]" and because he "could never get it right". So I don't think Eiffel ever really appreciates that Minkowski sends him back not because of what he can't do, but because of who he is: her friend, one of the most important people to her, someone who has brought so much value to her life, and someone whose death she refuses to contemplate.
#Wolf 359#w359#Renée Minkowski#Doug Eiffel#Minkowski is Bad at Talking about Her Feelings#on the space station of being Bad at Talking about Feelings#I don't want this to be taken as belittling how much Minkowski cares about the rest of the crew btw#Obviously she wants them to survive too#and I do think there are practical reasons behind the fact that she only sends Eiffel back#but I do think she cares about him in a particularly intense and protective way#where if she could only save one person it was undeniably going to be him#The reason she gives to the rest of the crew is particularly interesting#because for Hera definitely#and for Lovelace to some extent#the reasons that are about her care for Eiffel are probably more understandable than the practical reasons#but she still feels she has to give the practical reasons#to hide her emotional decision-making#On another note I kinda hate that I avoided using the word love in this post#cos I think that's ultimately what I'm getting at#she sends him back because she *loves* him#but I can't be arsed to clarify that it's platonic#I feel like it would ruin the flow of the post#but without that clarification it might not be taken as what I mean by it#Renee Minkowski#Wolf 359 spoilers#w359 spoilers#Long post#Eiffel & Minkowski#the empty man posteth
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Hey guys, respectfully miss me with that incest (any ship combination of April, turtles, and Casey jr)
I do count April as their sister since Karai says she has been one of them all along, meaning family, sister to the turtles
#also Casey jr knew the turtles as adults and looked up to them#April was with them since we saw her arm in the movie#he knew them as adults and they were leaders and role models to him#I just feel the need to say this#don't send hate#I'll just block you#tcest dni#incest dni#proship dni#rottmnt
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rereading new moon because i miss jacob and bella's dynamic but bella is so frustrating!!!! WHY would you call billy's house every half hour until ELEVEN PM????????? it was a kindness of him to only treat her with pity when jacob rejected her
#she's so enamored with vampires that she doesn't even immediately recognize that seeing laurent is a danger to her!!!#and yes ik it's bc of EDWARD and she misses EDWARD and she assumed that laurent was safe#bc he was cordial with the cullens before and like ik she has her reasons i do but OH MY GOD!!!!!!#like i don't want to get into it but ik she has this idea of good vampires and misses edward so she was RELIEVED to see one but GOD#and then pestering billy and jacob like that!! damn bella!!!!#if someone did that to me OHHHH i'd be so pissed 😤#like yeah she was desperate for him bc he distracted her from her pain and made her happy but he's sending a message bella!!! STOP!#personal post#new moon#idk if anyone can tell but i hate rudeness with a lack of courtesy for boundaries#for the record she was not entitled to the pack's secret so all this just bc jacob wouldn't talk to her is diabolical to me
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