#doctor who space babies

[gaybritishcow]

"Gallifrey is gone. All the timelords are dead now. I'm the last one" <- words that summon every unhinged time lord within percievable spacetime

[hauntswitch]

My favourite thing about the new episodes and new season so far is that its really, really channeling this quote by William Hartnell:

[the-leviathan-inside-my-mind]

A Theory on Mrs. Flood and Susan Twist

Spoilers for Season 14 ahead!

1. Susan Twist is the One Who Waits

For those who don't know, Susan Twist is an actress who has been playing multiple background characters for this season. Since The Church on Ruby Road, she has played a background character with a speaking role for each episode.

At first, this may seem like an easter egg included by Russel T Davies. However, in 73 Yards, when Susan Twist plays the old hiking lady, Ruby points out that she recognizes her.

What if this reappearing background character played by Susan Twist is actually the One Who Waits? Quite literally, they are waiting in the background of the episodes, biding their time before they finally make a full appearance.

Additionally, there is an extra bit of evidence that may at first seem too meta of a conclusion. However, with the way the show has veen exploring more meta concepts (the Maestro playing the theme song in Devil's Chord, and the theme song not showing up after The Doctor disappears in 73 yards), this might not be such a leap after all. As we know, the actress's name is Susan Twist. And what does The Doctor say at the end of The Devil's Chord, which itself becomes a full length song? He says "There's always a Twist at the end".

(Bonus I found while writing this theory: In the behind the scenes video for The Devil's Chord, Murray Gold mentions that "The song was always called There's always a twist at the end".

The fact that the song was always called this means that the title may be more important than just an artistic choice)

2. Mrs. Flood is the Oldest One.

In the Devil's Chord, the Maestro mentions the Oldest One, who was there on the day of Ruby's birth. At first, I believed that the Oldest One and The One Who Waits were the same. However, this wouldn't explain Mrs. Flood.

Mrs. Flood is certainly not a normal old woman. She is one of the only characters with the ability to break the fourth wall, and demonstrates knowledge of The Tardis, in a scene which suspiciously happens in the middle of the end credits, almost breaking the reality of the show.

I have heard the theory that she could be Older Ruby, yet we have seen old Ruby in 73 yards. Additionally, breaking the fourth wall is a reality warping power. It's a power we have only seen used by the Maestro, and The Doctor right before the Twist musical number (where reality breaks due to the remnants of Maestro's power lingering after their banishment)

Could it be that she is also a member of the Pantheon? If so, I believe that they are the Oldest One. The only major argument against this theory is that the Oldest One is stated to be a He, and Mrs. Flood is referred to as She, but Mrs. Flood can merely be another form or disguise for the Oldest One.

Ultimately, I believe it would be interesting if these two suspicious old ladies are the very extra-dimensional beings that we are warned about.

Thank you for listening to my wild theories! Reblog and comment your ideas, I'd love to know what you guys think about this. I hope you also see my next theory, which is coming out soon, on the identity of The Oldest One. See ya!

[rt8815]

Oof, "Space Babies"

The government won't stop the babies from being born but then they won't take care of them and Ruby's like yeah that's not surprising.

[caspersgraveyard]

okay I'm withholding judgment for the moment because of my affinity for the series but uhhh my feelings about the new episodes are essentially eh. it's got it's moments but there's just something missing

[vieramars]

I love the doctor infodumping about his life whenever it's relevant to the topic. Getting the big questions out of the way.

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[ernstiggroteadelaar]

parthenogenesis baby machine?

ok so in Space Babies it is said the space babies are produced with a parthenogenesis machine. Well,

parthenogenesis is a kind of asexual reproduction, aka producing babies with one genetic parent.

There's various species that have this kind of asexual reproduction in nature, and usually in animals it means embryos develop from an unfertilized egg cell. For algae apparently an embryo can also develop from a single sperm instead.

We do not know of a single mammal species that does parthenogenesis in nature, but science already created mice by it (with great difficulty) so parthenogenesis for humans is a cool concept for a scifi future

But my question is: I'd assume the most logical first step for human parthenogenesis would be the one with a single egg cell, like all animals that do it in nature. Does this mean that all those space babies have XX chromosomes, no XY's at all? The other possibility is that they made sperm-parthenogenesis in humans possible of course, but that would be a first(?) in animals whatsoever?

[falcon-writes]

15 immediately lying through his teeth to Ruby is so funny to me like dramatic irony much

[masterwhy42]

This may be a controversial take. But I f****** hated space babies soooo much.

[joju-but-trek]

Doctor Who Season 14, Episode 1: Space Babies

Well, that was a lot.

This episode had to do two things: it had to introduce this era of Doctor Who and it had to tell a good story. It did both of those well, but I think it was better at the first than at the second.

I do recommend this episode to people, and if you've never seen Doctor Who before it is a very good place to start.

I'm putting specifics and spoilers under the cut.

As I said, this episode had to do two things. It had to introduce the era and it had to be a good story.

It did the first of those really well, with a very effective opening scene answering all the questions about what Doctor Who is and who the Doctor is. I like that the Doctor is past the past traumas, and accepts that they happened but isn't overly focused on them. It's a good continuation of the specials and a fun angle.

The second one is the ultimate question of if this is a good story. And I think structurally it is. I liked the mystery and how it unfolded, and the twist with the boogeyman is effective. I just don't particularly like the space babies - something about them just felt off to me and didn't work. I also don't like that they save the semisentient pile of boogers with the power of a collective fart.

Doctor Who has always been incredibly weird, and that's part of what I like about it, but the specifics in this episode felt like they were trying too hard.

I really like the Doctor here. I like that he loves what he's doing and Ncuti Gatwa does a really good job at getting the audience as excited as he is. I also like Ruby, but I would like to see more of her outside of the mystery hook.

Here are some of my favorite weird details of the episode:

The TARDIS has a butterfly compensator now. I'm here for that.

Jocelyn was fun, and I like that she managed to swear

I can't believe that they got away with a fakeout child death in the first regular Disney episode

A lot of the budget is going to make the TARDIS actually move. On camera. That's nice.

Did anyone else think that the Doctor taking Ruby to visit a space station with new life was a cool parallel to the Doctor taking Rose to the end of the world in the last first RTD episode?

I don't know if I'm going to blog all the new episodes like this. I'd definitely like to, I just don't want to commit. I haven't even seen episode 2 yet. It might suck and I'll have to call off this whole project.

In case I do make a numbering system, 7/10.

[skeleton-squid-boy]

you have GOT to remember when watching the new doctor who that the question is not is this good. doctor who is only ever actually 'good' once a season at most. THE ONLY QUESTION IS is it fun, camp, and has aliens. also remember the worst doctor who showrunner is always the current doctor who showrunner. now go watch the new episodes as god intended like you're ten years old and still remember how to experience joy and whimsy.

[esonetwork]

Doctor Who: Space Babies & The Devil's Note Review

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Doctor Who: Space Babies & The Devil's Note Review

Embark on an epic journey through time and space with the Earth Station Who Podcast, as we delve into the exhilarating premiere of Season 14 of Doctor Who! Join us as we unravel the mysteries and marvels of the first two episodes, ‘Space Babies’ and ‘The Devil’s Chord.’ From thrilling encounters with Space Babies to meeting the Beatles and the heart-pounding musical horror of facing off against the Maestro, we explore every twist, turn, and timey-wimey surprise that awaits the Doctor and Ruby Sunday. Whether you’re a devoted Whovian or a curious newcomer, join Mike F, Michael G, and Mary, as well as their guests Elaine Sweatman, Matt Sweatman, and Dave Chapman, for our insightful analysis, engaging discussion, and insider insights that will transport you to the heart of the action. Tune in now and discover the excitement of the new series of Doctor Who, exclusively on the Earth Station Who Podcast, and remember there’s always a twist at the end!!!

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[stevenrogered]

DOCTOR WHO | 14x01 "Space Babies"

[vampir-el]

the doctor having to do a quick recap of 60 years of television and lore for new viewers

[caspersgraveyard]

seeing how Fifteen began with bigeneration, I like the parallels to Ten scattered through the episodes