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Submission by Anonymous
(I tend to leave all submissions on Anon for the sake of the sender’s privacy unless they state otherwise, but if you don’t mind being outed, please let me know.)
Hellooo
I only started following you today and I instantly love this blog so much? What sorcery did you use? 😂 Seriously though, reading your posts made me go through a wave of emotions.
I used to run a Jumin blog so I feel a strong connection to this blog, it just made me so happy today that I discovered it. I was kind of defensive of Jumin back then, so I might’ve said some stupid things which might’ve be seen as aggressive to non-Jumin fans (not my finest moment), but I do acknowledge his flaws, and that’s why I really love your assessment of his character. I think you do a better job at spreading positivity and fun towards Jumin in the fandom than I did 😂😘
Anyways, I wrote this because I have a particular memory from the past which I find interesting. One of the things I have in common with you is how I feel about DJHIG meme (I’m so glad Cheritz cleared that up btw). I used to be salty and ranted about it a lot, sometimes using sarcasm or satire. I didn’t call them out for being homophobic, because I think that’s a strong word and didn’t really want to use it, I just said it was inappropriate and unfunny. But guess what? I was the one that was called homophobic for being pissed off. I find this amusing because from your rant tags, I conclude that usually the responses are “it’s not homophobic” or “we’re just having fun”
So, back on track, after seeing my rant about the meme, one of the meme lovers private messaged me. I don’t remember exactly how it went, but pretty much she was berating me, accused that I only get pissed off because I would hate Jumin if he was gay/if Jumin’s character was associated with gayness and that made me homophobic. I was just like : ?? Where.did.that.logic.come.from?? She also said that if Jumin was canonically gay, and the meme was Does Jumin Han is Straight, I would be fine with it. At that point, I started wondering what planet she came from, as she clearly missed the whole point of the rant. After that, I re-explained to her what I meant, but she was probably still upset, so I got blocked.
I just thought that the whole thing was peculiar, and I’m kinda curious of your thoughts, so that’s why I shared it with you haha
Btw, I think you’re a nice person, at least from what I’ve seen so far. I’m glad that you’re serious enough to look at real life issues that might have an association with a piece of fiction, but not being hypersensitive. Because, well, many people nowadays scream “misogyny”, “abuse”, “rape”, and other bad terms without exactly logically analyzing the situation or even understand the meanings of those terms. I take a strong stance on claims having to have evidence before it gets thrown out. I’m not saying you’re always right, but I’m glad that you are willing to see things from both sides of an argument. (Even if the subject here is mostly from a piece of fiction, it’s still admirable)
You remind me of my older sister, I miss her 😊 I’m an awkward person so sorry if this submission got cheesy and weird real quick, I don’t really know how to start conversations hahah, I just ramble on and on about what’s on my mind
Have a good day, m'lady 💕
Welcome, dear one. Please take a sit and stay as calm as you can. We have bad news for you.
Warning: Looong post, DJHIG (yes, I’ve made it a TW now), Me trying not to be salty (trust me; I tried)
We suspect that you are under the effect of an unnaturally dark and deathly powerful spell, which we, unfortunately, have yet discovered the cure or identified the source. However, it has been scientifically proven by our headmaster Han that every reblog, like or comment that you make on this blog will significantly delay-- who am I kidding? I’m not gonna do this lol
Ahem, joking aside.
Hello there~ Thank you so much for your kind words. I’m so glad to hear that you enjoy reading my blog ^^
At first, I'd like to make a confession. MM is the very first fandom I’ve ever so deeply invested that I even made a Tumblr account for it. If you told the three-month-ago me that I’d have a discourse over a fictional character, I’d thought it was a joke lol. Originally, this blog was not even supposed to be about Jumin. Well, tbh, it was more like a small personal corner where I threw shade and I threw a lot at the game’s plot holes and, occasionally, the fandom’s issues while lowkey surfing for high-quality smuts. I honestly have no idea how it had come to this, but apparently, I’ve already fallen so deep and there is no turning back now lol
Also, thank you for trusting me to be a nice person despite the quite dubious morals of mine. May I make another confession? When I first approached Jumin (or any other characters), I viewed him more of a character I’m interested in analyzing rather than the one I gonna romance with. I never thought I’d fallen for him to begin with; it just sorts of happened in the process, haha. Anyway, the flawed Jumin is the one that I already love, not the idea of him; so there are no reasons for me to go around, making excuses for his shitty behaviors as if he was perfect or innocent. I don’t do that; I don’t just have to; not to mention how counterproductive it would be. I enjoy seeing all sides of an argument because you’re right, I know I’m not always right, and I’d be happy to be proven wrong. I love (civilly) debating over stuff since it’s fun; it’s stimulating; it’s an INTP curse. But... when people purposely twist him into something he isn’t, I'd start getting a little bit salty, which sometimes may come off too aggressive to others. Admittedly, the last discourse happened due to my insensitiveness. My point would still stand, but I also learned that I should choose a more considerate approach and (try to) be less salty from now on.
Well, maybe except for the next topic...
DJHIG. God, I will never run out of salt for this one. If you guys are ever curious about where this amount of salt even comes from, this post is currently my favorite salt mine. Gotta love those not-so-homophobic comments/reblogs.
The reasons that I hate this shitty meme, or anything equivalent to it with a burning passion:
1. It erases aromanticism/asexuality by assuming one’s romantic/sexual orientation based on their lack of interests in dating/frick-fracking, and as an aroace myself, I am offended. It is a personal attack on my own identity; and guess what, people still goes “Let us have our fun.” I could go on and on with this, but heh, given how the current society treats us, I can’t even bother anymore at this point.
2. It IS homophobic. There is no other way round to put it. Even if Jumin Han WAS gay, it would be homophobic. Why, you ask? You are using his sexuality as a punchline. You are pointing and laughing at him because you are thinking haha HE.IS.GAY, because you find being gay is something funny to you. Now, tell me, how is that not homophobic? Please don’t even get me started on those who think they cannot be homophobic because they have gay ships (my head hurts already; apparently, being too salty will make you dehydrated). It doesn’t matter whom this meme is about, or what their sexual orientation is. If Seven is bisexual and ‘Does Seven is Bi?’ happens, it is biphobic. FGS, just don’t degrade other people’s sexuality into a joke just for you to laugh at. And, please, don’t make assumptions about it either because it is wise to acknowledge that they probably know their own business better than you.
3. It is commonly used in the case in which Jumin is usually being oversexualized, which means you guys are very close to associating a pure gay relationship with a fetishized one. Do I even need to explain how screwed up this is? This is not shipping, guys.
...Anyway, my apologies if this is getting too long. I... got carried away. You are so kind for thinking such highly of me; thank you for sending me such a sweet message ^^ Please don’t feel pressured if you ever wanna come for a chat. I honestly would befriend with anyone who is willing to endure my nonsense lol
I hope you have a good day, Nonny :”)
#submission#anonymous#djhig tw#long post#late reply i know#i'm so so sorry#i have no idea how to time management *internally screaming*#unc.talks#052017
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Re: Jumin Discourse | P3
Warning: Abuse TW, long post, heavy graphics content.
Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3
Sum up Jumin’s Route?
Day 8: too controlling; 100% fucked up.
Day 9: some progress: less demanding; still 75% fucked up.
Day 10: some more progress: open for discussion; still 50% fucked up.
Well, a waiver can count as some sort of consent. Let’s just give him some credit here.
Day 11/GE: even some more progress, still somewhat fucked up.
Day 11/NE: probably the most ideal ending. I much more prefer this rather than his Good Ending. Time and personal space are what he needs for character development and the NE wonderfully offers them.
Valentine DLC: even much more progress. His control issue is completely gone. Tho I would also be dying to know WTF MC is doing at home after all this time. I gonna give Jumin benefits of the doubt since we have no info about how they decide things.
Of course, I won’t expect you to agree with everything I’ve been trying to say here. I also won’t expect this to change your thoughts about Jumin. We can agree to disagree, which sometimes is the best way to put an end to this discourse. Still, I sincerely hope you would see him as a problematic character that has potential and rooms for growing if he is given enough time and encouragement.
TL;DR:
Please understand that the Jumin Han Protection Squad is hardly about asking people to condone/forgive his behaviors.
We are NOT here to tell you that he needs more protections than any other characters.
We are NOT here to tell you that he deserves more love than any other characters.
We are here to promote the undiscussed potential of him that barely get seen due to his tags on Tumblr and other social media being all about 50% DJHIG meme, 25% kinky daddy, 15% problematic, gross creep and 9.99999% Jumin Han doing NOTHING wrong.
We are here to convince you that he deserves to be in a healthy relationship and be happy just like any other characters.
This is not a competition on which character deserve the most love. They are all problematic in their own way yet deserve the best of best.
#jumin discourse#abuse tw#i go full intp mode when discourse happens#get a bit high too#please remind me not to ever do this again#this is waaaaaay longer than i expected#i got carried away#legit took me 12 hours#straight#without sleep#collecting 200+ screenshots took damn too much time#there is still so much more to say but i'm too tired rn#it's not like anyone would read this anyway lolol#042017#unc.talks
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