#discowing suit hate(?)

[theredcuyo]

Guys see my vision here

None of the kids have actually finished college, much less law school, but because we're talking about the bats here, they know their fair share (Thank Uncle Harvey for that)

Specially Tim, because his parents will be searching for loop holes for totally legal things and they'd aknowledge his existence if he happened to point some out

Now, when any of his sibblings need someone to be on their side for whatever reason, they yell "I want my lawyer!"

And Tim magically appears behind them "What are You accusing my client of"

And maybe it's just Jason, arguing on which of the movie versions of little Women is superior "Wheres My lawyer when i need him?"

Or Damian trying to get another pet "My lawyer Will get in contact with you"

Even Bruce does it, whenever his kids get into a petty argument with him, like "For the last time, the batplane is not to go buy Gelato, use the normal private plane for that"

"Use the batplane to get Gelato and pizza, got it"

After a tired dad sightm "Talk to my lawyer and we'll settle this"

Dick tries to use this power too, but even Tim won't defend the discowing suit

No one on the multiverse could defend that

[batfam-stuff-posts-0]

Why do they still have the discowing costume in WFA??? You're telling me Jason never decided to hunt that thing down and burn it to a crisp?

[gaywineauntsstuff]

Me: I really like dc canon and frankly I think that fanon flanderizes the characters to the point where they are unrecognizable

Also me: Dick and Jason are drinking buddies,

Tim has put kon, Bernard and Steph in a gc called “the roster” and dipped.

Dick is not allowed to meet Barbara’s friends bc they all like him too much and then it’s rlly hard to bitch about him. (This is actually kinda canon thank u Dinah lance in birds of pray lmao)

The reverse of this is also true but for Dicks exes and Barbara like they get along TOO well.

Babs and Kori are friends.

Babs and Donna are sworn enemies. (Mutual)

Dick gets a different signature food with each of his siblings except Steph cuz they get smoothies. 

Dick keeps trying to get Steph and Donna to meet up but Everytime he tries Gotham gets blown up

Damian refuses to sneak pets in a trench coat bc it’s bad for them to be squished.

Duke is the only bat who knows about the mpreg joker story

Tim and Jason’s only texts to each other are “help” or “you lil shit what did you do!!?!”

Tim, Jason, Cass and Duke all like the discowing suit

Steph and Damian hate it

Damian says he’s spending the weekend not with his dad and everyone assumes Bruce and talia are trying split custody but he needs to bitch about Bruce so he goes to bludhaven

Donna and Dick get drunk together and get progressively more and more sappy about how they should move in together and how much they love each other, you’re amazing no you’re amazing.

Roy and Dick are besties who text like a divorced couple trying to coparent

Dicks exes are in a discord server called “raw. next question” and they have channels called “red heads only” “also dated his brother” “tried to kill him” etc

The redheads don’t have names in this discord “redhead 1” “red head 2” “redhead 3” and so on

They also don’t discuss dick in this server at all

Bruce calls dick for ideas about the Brucie Wayne persona and also when he just doesn’t get why people are mad at him.

Dick calls wally for help with menial tasks

Tim is a big big big fan of THC (same)

Dick goes to raves

Jason is actually the DARE Robin

An image of Dick at a rave went viral on Twitter and Bruce had a mental breakdown so did Jason

Stephanie will never ask Bruce for anything but she buys a 10$ coffee every morning on his card bc of that video of people saying young people can’t buy houses bc of Starbucks and avocado toast.

Jason has a video of 19 yr old Dick spitting at a police officer and he sent it on the family gc when he found out dick went undercover as a cop. It is one of 5 messages he has sent.

Everyone of the Bats is some shade of bisexual

Dicks house is the defacto Bruce is being a lil bitch for the bats and literally everyone who is affiliated with Bruce as long as you bring liquor you’re welcome

Garth and Dick watch sad movies together

Tim and Bruce watch all the bond films together

Damian and Dick watch bird documentaries together

Jason doesn’t watch tv bc he’s a secret hipster (he doesn’t have a tv they keep blowing up.)

Linda has absolutely asked Dick to swing with her and Wally and Dick told Wally about this and Wally’s only reaction was…”soooo is that a yesss or a no?”

The fab 5 titans all hate each others exes, refuse to acknowledge any guilt their friend had in the matter , and will absolutely pretend none of them have dated (they have all dated)

Bruce is in absolute denial that his children date. Like he knows dick has dated people but he assumes that it is kindergarten dating “ah dick spent the night at Barbara’s they must really like holding hands” “Bernard and Tim are moving so fast I mean I saw one of them kiss the other on the cheek??” Meanwhile he has traumatized all robins to ever Robin bc him and Selina Kyle can’t keep their hands right themselves

Also me: cognitive dissonance thank you for your service

Dick has like 25million ig followers, donna does his photos

Tim has a very popular shitpost account on Twitter from his pre Robin days that has statements like “if i was Batman I would simply barricade Arkham” and “stalking Nightwing rn we are up to 120 flips and 30 quips…. There is no else here”

[erinwantstowrite]

the discowing suit was not THAT bad and i will die on this hill

people who hate on discowing just can't see the vision 💔😔

also i fully believe it's because artists could not figure out how big to make the popped collar and that RUINED the design. it's fine when it's short but it got fucking ridículous in some issues

like look at this. if you edit the popped collar to be chill again then it's not half bad and i think it really fits the fun of the 80's

[heybatterbats]

I’ve been seeing entirely too many posts about how ace-spec people aren’t really LGBTQ+ and don’t belong at Pride. And I got mad about it. So…*aces your Batfamily*

Yes, all of them. Every last one is now ace-spec in some way. They even named their dog Ace.

Bruce is sex-neutral biromantic demisexual, and came out by accident at age 24 to a random reporter who was not expecting it. This sparked a social media storm that was only halted by the much bigger social media storm of Bruce adopting Dick.

The Batman has been asked his sexuality before. Bruce replied- perfectly straight faced- that the Batman is an asexually reproductive entity and creates its Robins via mitosis. A third of Gotham, most of Metropolis, and several members of the Justice League still believe this.

Dick is sex-repulsed biromantic asexual, and is of the type to make the dirtiest jokes you’ve ever heard because sex is a joke to him. Came out in the form of an acrobatics performance he did at a pride parade, wearing a terrible Batman costume with a bi heart as the Batsymbol, an ace flag cape, and no pants. The audience was ecstatic. Bruce was mortified.

Nightwing has never said his sexuality, but anyone who claims he’s straight is quickly met with pictures of the Discowing suit and up to a dozen laughing emojis.

Jason is sex-repulsed aromantic asexual. He’s not as vocal about it as Dick is, but he does like it to be known. He’s the type to make garlic bread/cake/world domination jokes. And ESPECIALLY dragon jokes. He kinda tends to just insert it casually into conversation, he didn’t do anything crazy to come out. It’s just a fact about him.

Red Hood claims to be sexually attracted exclusively to guns. Bruce hates this joke.

Tim is the opposite of Bruce- he’s sex-positive bisexual demiromantic. One of the few Batkids to come out while in costume- he got a concussion on a case and blearily mumbled into Bruce’s hair that he’s “you but backwards” and completely confused Bruce. Tim is a little shy about his identity, but since dating Bernard he’s been more open about it.

Red Robin is out as bisexual, but hasn’t added demiromantic to that. Tim is worried people will piece his secret identity together, since Tim doesn’t realize that most normal people are not highly skilled detectives who can tell a person’s identity from a single acrobatics move.

At the moment, Damian just thinks he’s feeling the normal “ew cooties” that most children do. In the future he’ll realize that he’s sex-repulsed ace/aro, although he’ll refuse to use those terms in favor of broodily muttering “this bloodline dies with me.” Ra’s has an actual heart attack the first time Damian says this to his face and has to go into the Lazarus Pit to recover. Talia has never been more proud.

Barbara is sex-neutral, demiromantic and asexual. She’s more outspoken about it than most of the family, and runs social media pages about disability and the asexuality spectrum alike. Aphobes and ableists that make the mistake of leaving comments often mysteriously find that their most embarrassing search histories have been sent to their grandmother.

Cass is sex-repulsed ace/aro. Steph was the one to explain sexuality to her, and also made her an ace ring. Cass told Bruce first, then the rest of the family. She’s never come out publicly- Cass doesn’t like media attention being on her- but some sharp-eyed Gothamites who are looking can spot the black ring on Cassandra Cain-Wayne’s middle finger in a few paparazzi shots the papers got their hands on. (I have a fic about this!)

Black Bat has never been asked her sexuality, mainly because she’s absolutely terrifying and nobody can stammer out the words when faced with her.

Stephanie is sex-positive graysexual grayromantic, and absolutely not shy about it. She’s almost as good as Dick at making horrible, filthy jokes. Has punched a guy in the face for aphobia, does not regret it. Stephanie is out and proud and loud about it.

Spoiler/Batgirl III have both been seen wearing a rainbow flag as a cape too many times for anyone to assume they’re straight.

Duke is sex-neutral demisexual/demiromantic, and is probably the most open about it of the whole Batfamily. He’s fully out and so is Signal, and will inevitably show up at any daytime Pride event just to say hi. Gotham adores him, and he’s practically the ace-spec community’s mascot. Can and will use the entire rainbow spectrum of light to create various pride flags over Gotham whenever he feels like it, and has started taking flag/location requests. Once turned the Batsignal gay.

Harper is sex-positive bisexual aromantic, and where Stephanie is loud about it, Harper gets violent. She carries a souped-up taser and doesn’t hesitate to use it. Has knocked at least four homophobes/aphobes out cold not counting the ones she beat up in the Narrows. Bluebird is not only publicly out as bisexual but wears two out of three bisexual colors, and while it’s not come up publicly yet, she won’t hide that she’s aromantic either. Along with Signal and Spoiler, Bluebird is one of the vigilantes that’s known for being specifically good at handling LGBTQ+ issues. She wouldn’t have it any other way.

After being forcibly outed as gay and then bullied for it, Cullen is still in the closet about the fact that he’s asexual and sex-repulsed, too. The first person he told after Harper was Alfred. By now the whole family knows, but they’ve been careful to keep it away from the media until Cullen’s ready to come out himself.

Alfred is sex-neutral, aromantic, and pansexual, though he’s older than some of those terms and doesn’t often use them to describe himself. Bruce didn’t know Alfred was anything but straight until he was almost seventeen, to which Alfred replied- signature eyebrow raise at full height capacity- that he had a career in the theater, Master Bruce, and no one who does that can possibly be typical in matters of orientation or any other aspect of life.

The outfit might seem antithetical to this, but Selina is ace too! Specifically, she’s sex-positive, heteroromantic and demisexual. The leather outfit is primarily for distraction purposes rather than true sex appeal. When it comes to Bruce, however, Selina’s more than once described herself as “morosexual.” Bruce, bless him, still has no idea what that means.

There ya go. Ace-spec Batfam. Happy Pride to everyone but especially all you fellow ace-spec folks who absolutely, 100% belong there.

[violent138]

I've said it before, but I absolutely love the idea that Bruce hates the Discowing suit. This is a man who asks "does it come in black?" upon seeing the latest R&D Bat-tech, he's very particular about the design elements in Wayne Enterprises buildings, his suits, and his house. He probably rants to Alfred about horrifically ugly suits he sees on other heroes, and he takes one look at Discowing and irrationally decides it contrasts too much with the batmotif and freaks out, with only Alfred keeping him from making it a Thing™.

[4razer-7azer]

im not even lying when i say that discowing is unironically the best and my favorite nightwing suit and im TIRED of all the old ppl hating on it PLEASE DC BRING IT BACK IM BEGGING YOU ITS SO PEAK

like r u KIDDINGGGG why do all these writers act like this is something dick should and/or would be embarrassed about…this is the most glorious amazing suit he’ll ever have and he and the rest of the dc universe KNOWS IT

[bugss-reid]

I wish the dc did more color theory in their comic tbh, and it’s not like i look for it too much or like try and find the symbolism, but it’d be nice to see like Dick in vivids Bruce in a more dulled down grey scale, maybe like tim in earth tones, and steph in like purples and blue, or like just have different styles for them, because i’d love seeing their color pallets because i think they are so interesting

ALSO hot take y’all, i am a firm believer of the discowing suit, i loved it, and i hate that they got rid of the yellow in Dick’s suit, like bring it back !! not the full like v neck line but just like being the yellow, and the dangling shit ya know

[aalghul]

I think jason should actually hate that dick changed the discowing suit. "where's the drama?! the flair!? you look like you shop at the same discount bdsm store as Bruce now you actual loser!! who even are you now"

YOU GET ME LIKE NO ONE ELSE. Jason todd lives for making a statement. The sleek and minimalist design does nothing for him

[msfcatlover]

So. Did you know there's a backstory to Dick's mullet?

Because there is.

Mirage convinced Dick to let her restyle him while she was impersonating Kori. Which he went along with, because Kori had been incredibly depressed for the last several weeks and nothing Dick said or did seemed to be helping her. Dick had pretty clearly hit the point where he was willing to do just about anything to make her happy again.

Which I know doesn't even begin to compare to the many other ways Mirage took advantage of him (trust me, I just read it,) but has made me hate the mullet jokes now, because that was not Dick's choice.

(I'm sure it's just a coincidence Dick's hair & costume came out of it looking a lot more like the future!Dick Mirage was pining over. Contrasts between future!Dick & the classic Discowing Dick was wearing in the arc right before this one below the cut.)

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Here's future!Dick...

....Aaaand Discowing.

Obviously, she somehow magically grew his hair out several inches. But even beyond that...

Look at the stripe shape & placement on the new suit, lining up with both future!Dick's stripes & his mesh armbands.

Look at the glove shape, going from a segmented gauntlet to a single elbow-length piece with a curved upper edge.

While Dick's boots are considerably less dramatic than his future self's thigh-highs, they are still much more strongly emphasized in Mirage's version of the costume.

While future!Dick has the diamond on his abdomen like Discowing, future!Dick's costume has much less detailing around his abdomen.

Discowing also isn't the one with a utility belt. A belt which just so happens to have the same insignia as future!Dick's shield. Weird that.

While neither of the prior versions have the little glider-cape, I would like to note it's something future!Dick probably could've gotten a lot of use out of, given the way his sidekick usually carried him around.

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So anyway, I have gone from being kinda tired of the mullet jokes to actively disliking them. Less jokes about the mullet, more jokes about the rat-tail please.

[aliiiaaa-x]

A Nightwing Rant because GAH!

Like I realised that the only reason Dick was able to let go of his Robin persona was because of the journey he took into making his Nightwing one.

Dick had followed in Bruce’s footsteps by creating Robin. Bruce was 25 when he returned to Gotham after vigorous training but he didn’t know how to stop the scourge that plagued Gotham and killed his parents. After an inner monologue of seeking advice from his parents, a bat appears and he chooses that as a mantle to honour them.

Same can be said for Robin. Robin consisted of a gymnastic styled costume with colours to honour the Flying Graysons and the name being based off of Robin Hood, but also the fact that his mother had coined it as a pet name for Dick.

But Nightwing? The name Nightwing came from Clark, when Dick took a trip to Metropolis on an identity search right after being fired. Clark was inspired to don the Superman cape because of a hero on his home world who fought for justice despite being an outcast and the name of said hero roughly translated to Nightwing.

The first suit? Based off of Johnny Grayson’s costume when he was a solo act. Dick had returned to Haly’s Circus and went back to performing trapeze but another performer had used the original colour so he settled for blue.

His weapons? The batarangs were of course welded based off of Batman’s original designs but the escrima sticks? Based off his Robin training, his escapade as an “assassin” in Robin: Year One and a juggler’s devil sticks.

His infamous Discowing suit? A gift from Alfred based off of the one he had made himself, but this time more snazzy, embellished and upgraded.

All pieces of people and places he loved. Nightwing is a collage of everything that means something to Dick - Haly’s Circus (home and his safe place), Bruce, his parents, Alfred, Clark.

And let’s not forget what he did after creating Nightwing - he went on a social call, making sure anyone who was anyone learnt his new name with Batgirl.

Then somewhere along the line, when he meets the new Robin, he realises that he wants the new Robin to have a better mentor than the one he had and somehow his brotherly instincts kick in. We’re talking protective behaviour, nicknames (“Little Wing” - a direct implication that Jason is acknowledged, but as another version of what Dick represents, not as Robin at that point. This was like the starting point, he was accepting Jason was his sidekick for the gauntlet. Then “Boy Wonder”. And finally he uses “Robin”, what Dick once considered “his name”, passing on the mantle), him answering Jason’s questions.

No hate to Batman, but by trying to trademark Robin and take an important piece of Dick’s identity (his childhood, his memorial for his parents) away from him was not cool, but it did play an important part in Dick discovering who he could be without Robin and Batman being a part of his identity.

[where-that-old-train-goes]

ummmm duck grayson

this was the context on the FUCK. dick ask but anyway okayyy

sooo im not that well versed in nightwing comics (only just started looking for nightwing stuff) BUT that doesn’t mean i dont have THOUGHTS

to be clear generally im not a shipper anyway so i don’t actively ship him w anyone. i reblog cool art sometimes but im only an active shopper with yj

anywayyyy

some of y’all (!!!! WAYNE FAMILY ADVENTURES AND ANYONE WHO TAKE THAT SHIT AS CANON !!!!!!!!!!!!) do not understand this man.

rule 1: THIS MAN IS ANGRY. stop uwuifying him he’s canonically got anger issues. he is, canonically, ANGRY. “batman: tas was the best batman” cool but did you see the episode where little twelve year old dickie tried to Kill A Man. okay. he’s angry!!!

rule 2: he is a master manipulator. YALL ARE FALLING FOR HIS PERSONA. OKAY. he could manipulate whoever he wanted. he could be a villain if he wanted!!! BUT

rule 3: HE IS A GOOD PERSON. he may be angry and a good manipulator but he does want to be A GOOD PERSON. this is IMPORTANT. okay.

ultimately my favorite dynamic here is him and damian. the brothers ever. maybeeeeee him and bruce too because God. they’re always fun if it’s written right. smth i wish we as a fandom would discuss more is the problems with oversexualizing him? esp reducing him to just The Pretty One when he’s also been raped. more than once. you have to be in specific spaces to even find people talking about this but it’s something that happened a few times and i wish we’d actually talk about it. if it had happened to a female character (or even if the perpetrators were men and not women) we would NOT be acting how we act with him.

it’s really fucked up to me to reduce his INCREDIBLY interesting and fun to explore character to “haha he’s got a nice ass”. it was a funny joke when it was a JOKE— he is appearance wise a generic attractive dc guy. but it’s not a joke anymore among the fandom and i HATE IT. he’s got depth, he HAS a lot of things going for him that are really interesting!! don’t reduce him to just that.

on a less “pissed with the fandom” and more “pet peeve with the writers” I HATE TOM TAYLOR’S NIGHTWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

i have read leaping into the light— and it fucking sucked. it’s not, as it’s own story, bad (although there’s very little depth or really anything to analyze imo, but not all media HAS to be deep. that’s not what everyone is there for) but as a nightwing story?

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IT SUCKED

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tom taylor is on the road to success. someone pull him over.

dick isn’t just a wisecracking, happy-go-lucky guy! he does not have to be a Generic Hero!!!! he can be angry and manipulative and still be good despite it!!!!!!

that’s my main point but to end on something more lighthearted… i actually like the discowing suit. it was silly and weird and so 80s. but it was fun!!!! did it age well??? no. but was it FUN!!! was it SILLY!!!! was he kind of serving? yes! this is a pro discowing blog!

[le-regrems]

So apparently people hate discowing suit for real but I gotta admit that I think it's kinda a vibe. I totally love the idea of all the titans loving it and it generally being considered very fashionable at the time and just later a fashion disaster.

It's unpractical as fuck and I love it.

[b4tling]

Fanfic Rambles

Jason Todd with long hair AU. #MistakenIdentityAU #TwinAU #EverybodyLovedJasonTodd

Was daydreaming and thought of a funny little prompt about Jason after coming back from the dead and becoming the red hood (but before all the bat drama like beating Tim or yknow, tryna kill everyone) he runs into Dick while in his civilian form and the other in his Nightwing getup.

Naturally, Dick sees a guy with a similar face to his dead little brother, but buffer and taller than he could have ever gotten because of his malnourished state growing up. Sees all his scars which HIS Jason never had. The white streak in the hair, green eyes, AND lets not forget the long hair.

He sees all this and comes to the conclusion that this isn't his Jay but either a doppelganger, clone, hallucination- OR twin. But the possibility of it actually being Jason Todd doesn't even cross his mind. Because from his memory, Jason would have never willingly adorned long hair. After all, he made it known of his distaste for his own long hair back in his Discowing era.

(Little did he know that Jason loved his hair INCLUDING his Discowing suit, and that he only made fun of it because he was a little kid who didn't wanna show that he admired his big brother who didn't exactly wanna be his big brother at the time. So he made sure to make fun of him at every opportunity, ESPECIALLY, his hair. Because in truth the hair was his favorite part about the outfit. Somehow, everybody fell under the illusion that he did in fact hate the hair the most, including Alfred.)

Jason seeing Nightwing is like, shit, I was found out already. He begins panicking in his head only for Nightwing to pluck a piece of his hair and run back into the shadows (off to go confirm his theories- the one about it possibly being a hallucination already crossed off with the physical evidence in his hands)

Later on the DNA test comes back with it not fully being Jason (lets just say its due to the Lazarus pit plus a side effect of dying and coming back to life) and he comes to the conclusion that he's a long lost twin and goes to tell the other bats about the newest addition to the family (they're not giving him a choice in the matter of course).

(Random scene I thought of in this AU but it takes place once it's revealed that Jason is actually just Jason- not his twin, duh -and everybody loves each other.)

"You know, you're really good at this"

Stephanie says as she sits on the ground in front of the couch, with Jason behind her brushing through her hair. Her eyes are closed in content as the older boy runs his fingers through her scalp, gently brushing each blond strand with practiced ease.

Jason scoffs, his own hair tied back into a half up and half down style.

"Of course I am."

Cass plops herself next to Jason on the couch and stares at him with a mostly blank but hopeful expression. Jason rolls his eyes.

"Yeah yeah, you're next you weirdo. Wait your turn."

"What about me Jay?" Dick whines from across the room where he sits with Duke at his side and Damian on the other, drawing in his sketchbook with Alfred the cat and Titus laying on his lap. Damian looks up and sends his brother a look of disgust.

"Must you act so childish Richard?" Dick just laughs and ruffles the boys hair.

"Don't act like that Dami, I saw you sneaking them glances too!", the boy turns red at this, "I'm sure Jay will love to brush your hair too"

"Yeah Damian, I'm sure Jason would just love to brush through your wittle soft hair" Tim adds in teasingly from his place on another single couch, with his phone in one hand and his body lazing about with his legs dangling over the armrest. Duke sends Dick a look, the two aware of what will naturally follow.

Damian lets out a strangled noise before pouncing on the older boy, the two wrestling on the ground while Dick watches with a look of fondness.

They've come a long way from this sort of scene being something worrying, but now just the show of two brothers playfully fighting. No real harm actually being done.

Jason just sighs.

"You know what- yeah, not like you're all vigilantes and trained to bare getting shot and stabbed but will whine over having a turn to get your hair brushed. Nah, whatever, it's totally normal, I mean cope however you want I guess..."

Everyone just gives him wide eyed innocent looks, though many were suspiciously hiding a grin there.

Tim stares a bit from his place being pinned down by his little brother (who is being told by Dick to get off now) and Jason once again rolls his eyes.

"Yes, including you replacement" The boy smiles, bright and wide, and when did the nickname become something said out of warmth instead of the previous jealousy?

"Well Master Jason, I feel as if someone else is feeling a bit left out" Alfred says as he places a plate full of snacks on the coffee table.

Stephanie looks up at the elder, and then looks at the mans head with a dubious face.

"Uhm, I didn't know you'd be into this Alfie" The man in question deadpans at the girl.

"I wasn't talking about myself unfortunately, I fear that the I'm quite lacking in the department needed for this activity."

"Don't worry Alfie, I feel your pain from here" Duke says, with his own deadpan. Steph winces and whispers my bad. Cass giggles at the exchange.

Someone else muffles a snort, which then follows up with the clear sound of getting hit by something (or someone).

Alfred simply tilts his head in a direction, which Jason finds is the door hiding a shadow there. Watching.

He huffs a breath, and for the millionth time rolls his eyes.

"B, if you wanted to have your hair brushed then you coulda come in here and said so like a normal person. I swear, you guys all got your lack of communication skills from him"

"Not me!" Stephanie makes known with a triumph look.

"Me neither" Dick says, but earns raised brows from everyone in the room. "Okay, never mind then" he takes back his words with slumped shoulders, Duke jokingly patting his back in comfort as the older man pouts.

"I..." Bruce who has finally exited the shadows, reveals himself in casual sweats and the most dad-sweater to ever dad.

"I'd like that a lot chum"

Jason just huffs out a laugh.

"You're all terrible, I hate you guys and hope you all die."

Everybody simply smiles at him.

"We love you too Jay" Dick says with clear affection in his eyes.

Jason just returns to his previous actions of tying the blond teens hair, styling it to his best ability.

"I mean it, twice over"

Bruce sits on the other side of Jason and ruffles his hair.

"Of course, son"

[weirdo-from-bonesborough]

Assuming that Dick’s little collar on his Robin suit isn’t like for decoration or part of a really weird leotard, I’m gonna say that it probably leaves a gap around the neck so it’s not skin tight (obviously I don’t think I need to highlight the degree of freedom from restraining clothing that Dick kept during his time as Robin)

Dick’s first Nightwing costume, the Discowing, also had a wide collar, in addition to it’s iconically deep neckline. These aspects of his costume leave plenty of airflow.

Therefore I headcannon that Dick just fucking hates clothes and now that he’s found a material he actually doesn’t mind being encapsulated in he absolutely refuses to take the Nightwing costume off

Like I’m taking Spider-Man-civvies-over-costume, only takes off to sleep, waits around in boxers when it’s being washed level comfort clothes

Don’t even try to ask for it without first offering some baggy sweatpants or a lose dress or he will throw a fit

Just. Sensory issues level 1000% and willing to fist fight about it. That’s all.

[havendance]

I think it’s time to revisit the reverse robins AU. Namely, it’s time to address Damian. Only to address Damian, first we have to talk about Knightfall. I promise this’ll tie back in.

So Batman: Knightfall. The key thing about Knightfall in this AU is the fact that Jason and Tim are two different people. Tim bought into Batman and Robin as an idea, Jason stumbled into becoming Robin and may or may not be blackmailing Batman. He really isn’t sure anymore. Regardless, when Bruce rolls up and is like ‘hey, I found this ex-brainwashed assassin, could you show him the ropes’, Jason is like ‘no wtf, that’s not my job’. And then we’ve got the Bane-gauntlet, back-breaking etc etc.

Rather than accept that Bruce is going to make him work with random ex-brainwashed assassin dude (and seriously, Bruce, this is not what he signed up for), Jason gives Steph a call and is like ‘hey, you said that I could ask you for help if I needed it. Can you talk some sense into Bruce, he’s being an idiot?’ and Steph, who is in the middle of the Titans imploding is like ‘yeah, why not’. Basically we just skip Knightquest and Knightsend and go straight to prodigal. (Idk how Bruce gets his back magi-cured, it’s not important). Steph is not Batman. For one thing, Bruce has about a foot and least a hundred pounds on her, for another, why should she have to pretend to be a dude to kick ass? Steph is the first Batwoman and her and Jason kick ass together and take on Bane and just have a rocking good time while Bruce is doing who know’s what.

But back to Damian. Damian gets to stay the same in this AU. 

Let’s recap where we left off: Stephanie Brown is operating as the Spoiler, primarily in Gotham, and working with the Titans as her side-gig. Tim Drake just came back as the Joker 2.0 and is living it up in his villain era. Jason’s mom died due to long-term health problems and he was adopted by Bruce. Dick recently got de-talonized and is now running around as Nightwing. Which means it’s not time for Bruce’s surprise kid with Talia to show up. He does his thing and oh no, Bruce just died. 

So look, Steph is trying to hold things together. She’s trying to hold Gotham together, she’s trying to look after Bruce’s legacy (because for all that their relationship was rocky, she did love and respect him), she’s trying to look after Bruce’s kid. She fumbled things with Jason during the whole mess that went down and now he’s off, convinced that Bruce is still alive out there and, hmmm, let’s say he took Barbara Gordon, fresh off of her widely-hated evil-arc, with him, because I think it would be fun.

So now Steph is Batman and it’s different from the last time she wore the Bat. Last time Bruce was still alive, last time she was doing it on her terms. But now, Bruce is dead and she’s pretending that she’s actually him and he isn’t and she’s isn’t sure if anyone believes it, but it feels important, okay?

Ummm, I’m running out of juice here. Anyway, Damian is Steph’s Batkid first and she teaches him to drink respect-women juice and gets him to stop killing as much and relax and be a kid a little more. And he also hangs out with Nightwing who’s like the cool, chill older brother and he insults Nightwing’s fashion taste (because it’s the discowing suit) and Nightwing teases him right back (because Steph said that the pink was traditional and he wasn’t getting out of it) and the get along and it’s great :)