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I find it so cute that on 2023 April's fools day that we have the official Gunwoo novel art released (and in keundal's pov too) the fact that the manhwa showed Gunwoo sooner then the novel lol
EX rank idol data seller becomes a 7th grade civil servant
#debut or die#데못죽#데뷔 못 하면 죽는 병 걸림#park moondae#dmj#dod#demotjuk#ryu gunwoo#debut or die gunwoo#debut or die ryu gunwoo#debut or die park moondae#debut or die moondae#debut or die bigmoon#debut or die keundal#debut or die novel
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Debut or Die episode 58-60 behind the scenes
machine translation below the spoiler cut like always
Soheun
Episode 58-60 Behind the Scenes
There were candidates for the bear on Big/Keun Sejin's whiteboard. When I put it together it seems like traces of Sejin's worries
(candidates)
(final bear drawing)
(IM USING THE PANEL FROM TAPAS BY THE WAY)
2. The Alien Moondae on the left is from the storyboard. As I soon saw the storyboard, I felt overwhelming despair from the talent so I tried my best to replicate it through drawing (on the right)
3. This episode left an impression on me when I read the original, so I had a lot of trouble with Moondae's psychological portrayal. As with every important episode, each stage of writing and editing was engraved in my mind, so when I closed my eyes before going to bed, I would replay the manuscript in my head from the first cut. I would like to thank the PD and assistant writers once again… I also remember having many discussions with Jang Jin. The same goes for directing the title, how and to what extent Moondae's facial expressions are shown, how to reveal emotions in parts where facial expressions are not shown… etc… Personally, I put a lot of effort into the effects of the flashback cuts.
4. The gummy snack that Ahyeon brought is the same ones that he had in episode 16. It seems like he chose that one since Moondae liked those the most among the snacks shared so far
(gummy snack) ep 59 and 16
5. Just like Sejin’s last post, Jangjin writes down the entire text in the chat room, even the parts that aren’t used. Every time I received a confirmation, I was surprised by how realistic it was…
6. There are many other things I paid attention to, and I worked hard to include them in the manuscript, so I hope they were conveyed to readers as well~~! happy new year Please enjoy the next episode as well!
<Jangjin review of episodes 58-60 which is going to be a bit long an serious>
I feel like I've climbed a big mountain.. As always, but especially for this episode, I received a lot of help from Soheun in setting the tone. When working under limited time with lots of details, there were parts that I missed, but Soheun looked at them with the reader's eyes and caught them again. In the process, there were times when the interpretation was completely different and I had to redraw them or discuss one or two minor scenes for a long time. It must not have been easy for the animator to carefully look over the storyboard with a lot of work and limited time. It wasn't easy for me either, reading the original and adapting it, to shake off the first image that was stuck in my mind, understand the collaborator's interpretation, and find my rhythm again. That's how much we both thought this episode was important and wanted to convey the emotions the original gave us. I enjoyed this process a lot. I have often used the phrase ‘The beauty of collaboration’
The process of thinking about where to show as a mirror that reflects a good original work was truly the fun of collaboration. From the beginning, the episode was planned to be contained in 2.2 parts, and while the previous episode was finished in a quick pace, this time we utilized a lot of POV, flashbacks, narration, cuts, close-ups, etc. to capture Moondae's psychological state. For visual effects, we utilized lighting, shadows, effects, etc., and Soheon took extra care in lighting and flashback effects.
Let me introduce two parts that I discussed with So-Heon to maximize the visual effects…
1. Flashback scenes
The two flashback scenes in episode 59, the scene where he recalls the performances he has done and the meetings with fans, I wanted to give the feeling that everything was shattered like a dream at night with the sound of a fist being struck.
In the case of Moondae recalling his fans in the same episode, Soheun had the opinion that it would be nice to feel like all kinds of affection and support towards oneself are passing through one's hands like grains of sand or smoke. So, the images were corrected to give the overall impression of waving.
2. Expression of the 'Original Park Moondae'
This is also expressed in the original work, but the suspicion about Moondae, the original owner of the body, grows, and Park Moondae (Ryu Gunwoo) distrusts him, and the misunderstanding is raised again through the explanatory note. I don't know how you will feel, but as I continued to read that part, my sympathy for Moondae grew a lot. Even if he had originally planned to drop out, I wondered what school was like for Moondae, who had to leave school without being able to completely explain the unpleasant incident, and who had no adults who could stand by his side. While thinking about the same thing, I ultimately decided to direct with the idea that this is the kind of previous Moondae that Moondae currently has. It is also an image that I came up with while thinking about the development of the novel, so it will also bring various feelings to readers who read the novel.
I wanted to wake up. I think it's because I've been working with this mindset since the storyboard, but when Soheun's drawings and directing were added, I felt a bit touched. It was a scene that I had prepared and nervously for since the beginning of the webtoon, so I think I spent the next three weeks feeling anxious and nervous until the end….ㅠㅠ After we've overcome a big hurdle… We'll run to another big hurdle. I ask for your support until the end, and I hope you enjoy the rest of the holiday…!
#debut or die#데못죽#데뷔 못 하면 죽는 병 걸림#debut or die manhwa/webtoon behind the scenes#park moondae#lee sejin#keun sejin#keunse#big sejin#seon ahyeon#original park moondae#debut or die bigmoon#keundal#debut or die keundal#debut or die lee sejin b#debut or die park moondae#debut or die seon ahyeon#dod#dmj#demotjuk#lee sejin b
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DEBUT OR DIE KEUNDAL/BIGMOON/BM HEADCANNONS
BIG SPOILERS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS
this one has more light spoilers might make another part for the heavier ones
I love him so much and I always talk about him on twt lmaooo so im kinda just compiling stuff from twt into a big posts(?)
some of these hcs are kinda built/expanded off of canon stuffs soooo yeah
some of this might be canon actually but it sometimes hard to tell because I read mtl :cry:
He's twitter moots (brief mentioned of seeing each other in their twitter timelines in part2) with the other fans we see in the series (Moondae's fansite master and the Kim Raebin fan! I cant remember their name spellings rn... will edit later)
HE'S THE RICH FAN... buys all merch he can get his hands on his bedroom is full of TeSTAR merch (it's always mentioned he has merch in his bedroom)
He helps pay(?)/sponsoring those fanmade advertisements like those type of fan ads you see on a member's birthday
If he can he goes to those birthday fan café events :) OROROR he helps pay rent for spaces so they can have birthday event!!!
(idk if this is an actual thing) those mass buy album events(?) the fans would do each comeback(?) he buys albums for other fans that couldn't afford the newest album at the moment... (Moondae will just give him a sign album anyways lol)
He buys any plush/cotton TeSTAR doll he can get his hands on (based on a tweet he saw in ch644 for a Chungwoo doll) he has some sort cute display for each of the members :D however he has some Moondae dolls everywhere in the house (Moondae is concern about this\ Keundal just misses him that's all...) lolol (Groom of May doll sitting on the couch is canon! so cute)
Ahyeon custom making/crocheting clothes for keundal's dolls whenever he comes by his house or as some sort of gift (help there was a cursed thought of ahyeon crocheting moondae's underwear for one of keundal's moondae doll :sob: <- reference to that one moondae doll account on twitter if ykyk)
He has his own custom made TeSTAR t-shirt designs... it may not be the best quality (as in looks more meme-y/shitposty instead of some serious design... "Graphic design is my passion meme" vibe) it so cute and funny (the shirts are in the depths of his closet)
this is getting long.. (its like 8 bullet points but still) I made a Part 2 here still with light spoilers
no heavy spoilers for now...
#debut or die#dod#dmj#데못죽#park moondae#keundal#bigmoon#ryu gunwoo#og! park moondae#original park moondae#testar#loviewer#seon ahyeon but briefly mentioned#Testar park moondae#moondaeznuts dmj/dod hcs#데뷔 못 하면 죽는 병 걸림#dod bigmoon#debut or die bigmoon
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DEBUT OR DIE KEUNDAL/BIGMOON HEADCANNONS pt2
SPOILERS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS
still not heavy spoilers but yeah
keundal/bigmoon hcs: Part 1
Keundal sitting on the couch holding/hugging one of his Moondae dolls while watching TeSTAR's variety shows/preformances/livestreams or any other extra content
He has a basket of apples in the kitchen for Moondae!
He has all of gun123 videos saved on his phone or somewhere just incase everything gets deleted and so he has something to rewatch
other than that he saves moondae's fancams too
Keundal doesn't cook much... but he attempts to make/follow any of Moondae's recipes! though it may not be just likes Moondae's cooking it's still edible (he rather have moondae cook for them)
^Whenever Moondae does a cooking livestream he also tries to follow along!
he'd rather starve then sell his moondae signed photocard(s)... (just let moondae make him food!!!)
his favorite cereal always changes he probably cycles through different brands and flavors
he cycles through different TeSTAR songs for his alarms I guess the alarms depends on what event is going on for that day
Any hobby that Moondae mentions he does Keundal will also try to get into it too
Keundal and Moondae going skiiing together(pretty sure that this event is canon and moondae is good at skiing) they both find it fun!
^Plus keundal and the other members going skiing together for vacation
Keundal's vocal stat is at C in his original body so it raises up to C+ or B- just from singing TeSTAR songs for fun!
^Moondae giving Keundal vocal lessons and singing advice so his singing stat is higher
Keundal and Raebin having long deep conversations talking about the process in the making of the songs in the albums! Keundal wants to know everything and Raebin is happy to tell him
Keundal and Raebin also discussing the interpretation and meaning behind songs too (omg)
Keundal really likes Baese's acting and would ask him how he felt/his thoughts when he's acting
He def watch anything in which Baese acts in (if its a new kdrama or movie he would watch it with Moondae)
Keundal learning how to crotched from Ahyeon! so cute
Eugene teaching Keundal how to dance to one of their tictactoc (tiktok) dance challenges would be so funny
#debut or die#dod#dmj#데못죽#데뷔 못 하면 죽는 병 걸림#park moondae#keundal#bigmoon#debut or die bigmoon#dod bigmoon#og! park moondae#ryu gunwoo#moondaeznuts dmj/dod hcs#kim raebin#seon ahyeon#cha eugene#cha yujin#testar#baesejin#baese#lee sejin a#original park moondae#testar park moondae
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Debut or Die post-canon au idea
If anyone has any OCs with their own kpop group that they want to have in the dmjverse without interfering with the original groups lineups, I think it would be cool if the system came back with possessing an idol trainee in Stars Orbit with more idol-like status abnormalities.
(I don't have any ocs to do this but if anyone wants to writes this then I'm down to read it ^-^)
adding a spoiler warning down below
Luckily, Bigmoon and Moondae realizes the system comes back and helps the new possessor. Because TeSTAR's new junior group is also managed by Bigmoon, I think there would be a lot more interactions between the two.
Oh and of course we can't forget about Cheongryeo finding out:
I think it can go either two ways
Cheongryeo and Moondae helping the new possessor get through the status abnormalities.
Cheongryeo making things harder for everyone, just for fun. (but later he eventually helps.)
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Keundal going to the fan cafés... But he's in gunwoo's body, and gunwoo is a big kinda intense looking guy... But then when other fans talk to him he's blushing and really sweet!
(I think I'd die if ahyeon made me personalised clothes for my TeStar plushies.)
DEBUT OR DIE KEUNDAL/BIGMOON/BM HEADCANNONS
BIG SPOILERS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS
this one has more light spoilers might make another part for the heavier ones
I love him so much and I always talk about him on twt lmaooo so im kinda just compiling stuff from twt into a big posts(?)
some of these hcs are kinda built/expanded off of cannon stuffs soooo yeah
some of this might be cannon actually but it sometimes hard to tell because I read mtl :cry:
He's twitter moots (brief mentioned of seeing each other in their twitter timelines in part2) with the other fans we see in the series (Moondae's fansite master and the Kim Raebin fan! I cant remember their name spellings rn... will edit later)
HE'S THE RICH FAN... buys all merch he can get his hands on his bedroom is full of TeSTAR merch (it's always mentioned he has merch in his bedroom)
He helps pay(?)/sponsoring those fanmade advertisements like those type of fan ads you see on a member's birthday
If he can he goes to those birthday fan café events :) OROROR he helps pay rent for spaces so they can have birthday event!!!
(idk if this is an actual thing) those mass buy album events(?) the fans would do each comeback(?) he buys albums for other fans that couldn't afford the newest album at the moment... (Moondae will just give him a sign album anyways lol)
He buys any plush/cotton TeSTAR doll he can get his hands on (based on a tweet he saw in ch644 for a Chungwoo doll) he has some sort cute display for each of the members :D however he has some Moondae dolls everywhere in the house (Moondae is concern about this\ Keundal just misses him that's all...) lolol (Groom of May doll sitting on the couch is cannon! so cute)
Ahyeon custom making/crocheting clothes for keundal's dolls whenever he comes by his house or as some sort of gift (help there was a cursed thought of ahyeon crocheting moondae's underwear for one of keundal's moondae doll :sob: <- reference to that one moondae doll account on twitter if ykyk)
He has his own custom made TeSTAR t-shirt designs... it may not be the best quality (as in looks more meme-y/shitposty instead of some serious design... "Graphic design is my passion meme" vibe) it so cute and funny (the shirts are in the depths of his closets)
this is getting long.. (its like 8 bullet points but still) I made a Part 2 here still with light spoilers
no heavy spoilers for now...
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