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does anyone realize how crazy it is to have the actor of a mostly headcanoned queer ship say the fans were never crazy and they were right all along after 10+ years of everyone just absolutely going nuts over the said queerbaited ship
#supernatural#dean winchester#spn#destiel#castiel#deancas#misha collins#im 20 i have been Experiencing supernatural and johnlock since i was 12 and merthur since wayy before that i have fought Wars#this is crazy#i love u hannibal i love u 911 (if u make eddie gay)#for the love of god by 'mostly headcanoned' i dont mean that it was never intentional#i am aware that they put the subtext in on purpose#they knew what they were doing#but my focus here is on the actor actually saying it because like#if its not mostly headcanoned then y was the entire cast denying it for years AND YEARS#like do yall not remember what jared and jenesn used to say#there have been many many many instances where the cast has made us feel crazy/stupid for saying anything abt destiel#im just saying TO ME its crazy that actors and creators talk so openly about these things now !!! again i was raised on merlin and sherlock#ok also im confused on the queerbaiting part#everyones saying its queer coding and not queer baiting but cant they be true at the same time ?#im not being dumb on purpose i swear im just confused#like yes dean is very much bi coded and their relationship is queer coded but if the creators deny everything#and we only get a last minute confession after 11 years#that doesnt count as queer baiting ?#someone smart explain this to me 🙏
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Dramatic ass gays and their mirrors
#get a grip#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#destiel#castiel#misha collins#deancas#jensen ackles#spn crack#mirror#mirrors#spn 4x01#4x01#spn 5x03#5x03#spn 8x07#8x07#spn 10x23#10x23#spn 12x11#12x11#gay#dean is bi#bi dean
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Dean talking Charlie through flirting with the security guard - literally one of my favourite scenes for Dean Studies - because not only was that brilliant comedy, but Dean stepping up like, Don't worry Charlie, you can't flirt with him because you're not attracted to men, but luckily I can. because
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Dean complimenting fellow queer people on their game
Bonus inverse, trying to out-game someone to vicariously flirt for/with your presumed-but-not-at-all-straight friend who has no game whatsoever:
#it's striking how Sam will nod along in his Good Ally way but Dean is the one relating and being seen on this unspoken higher level#anyway can we add that scripted one to the censorship pile as a safe assumption? Yockey wrote it he'd Know#wild how transparently obvious it is spn's writing room was full of queer creatives+supporters who fought for diversity against corporate#it speaks to the experience because it's from the experience#people who refuse to get that are telling on their own lack of knowledge of The Life irl. I know what you are :)#supernatural#spn#the winchesters#dean winchester#destiel#spnedit#spn meta#parallels#dean is bi#spn is queer#8.11#8.13#11.19#12.20#15.07#spnwin 1.13#12.12#mine
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"Dean is straight" and then all his celebrity crushes are handsome men
#society if dean winchester behaved normal around handsome men#SWAYZE ALWAYS GETS A PASS!!!#bi disaster my beloved#dean winchester#spn 7x12#spn 5x8#spn 11x15
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Usually when Claire works the closing shift at Rocky's, she and Dean will wind down with a couple of beers at the end of the night. It's a nice little ritual Claire looks forward to every time she comes around, though she'd never admit as much out loud.
Tonight, Dean has mixed up a batch of one of his specialty cocktails - The Queen of Moondoor. It's bright, a sort of red-orange color, and has a sweet and sour taste that makes Claire's jaw ache.
"Do you like it?" Dean asks, like Claire's opinion really matters.
She nods. "It's good."
She's not lying. Dean isn't really a cocktails kind of guy but he's put a lot of effort into every detail of Rocky's. From the various pride flags carefully hung behind the bar, to the salt painted into the windowsills, every inch of the place is meticulously planned out. Rocky's isn't officially a hunter's bar - though it is explicitly a gay bar - but it's become an unofficial gathering place of queer hunters across the continental US.
Even the cocktails on the menu are Dean's own invention. All of them have a backstory, some of which Claire isn't privy to. She knows enough to understand why the Queen of Moondoor is Dean's personal favorite, though.
It also packs a surprising punch. Two drinks in, and Claire already feels herself tilting from tipsy into full-on drunk. She slows down her pace.
"How long are you planning on sticking around now?" Dean asks, because free booze is never just free booze with him. There's always the interrogation. He's almost as much of a mom as Jody is.
"A few days," Claire answers vaguely. "Maybe longer, who knows. I don't have any hunts lined up right now and you pay pretty well."
She knows for a fact he pays her double what he does his other bartenders. Neither one of them ever mentions it, though.
"Weren't you heading back to Jody's?"
Claire shrugs, uncomfortable. She had been, before last night's call with Kaia. They're good most days, even with the strain of Claire being on the road half the time, but sometimes when they talk, they'll hit on a sore topic for one of them and things will get stilted.
The anniversary of Mom's death is coming up in a couple of weeks. Kaia wanted to join Claire for her visit to the cemetery.
"What's on your mind, Strawberry Shortcake?"
Claire is supposed to roll her eyes now. Tell Dean to fuck off and mind his own business.
She doesn't really want to do that. But she doesn't know how to explain to Dean what she's feeling, either.
"It's stupid," she says. "I'm being dramatic."
"You? Never."
Claire scoffs, and Dean's eyes soften.
"You can talk to me, you know."
"Yeah," Claire says, because she does. He gets her, weirdly enough. They get each other. It probably doesn't say great things about either of them. "I just... I feel like I'm making up problems."
Dean takes a sip of his drink. It's difficult to look dignified, drinking out of a straw, and he does not remotely manage it. "Let me be the judge of that."
"Kaia wants-" Claire stops herself, because that's not the point of it. "I - we're good. Me and Kaia. I don't feel ashamed about it."
Dean waits for her continue.
"I'm a lesbian," Claire adds, even though, duh.
"Congrats," Dean says, and it feels like it could be sarcastic but it's not. He means it.
"I don't think -" no, that's not right. "I know my parents wouldn't be okay with that."
The statement lands heavily between them. It feels bitter on Claire's tongue, an ugly truth held at bay for far too long. She feels awful saying it, like she's failing her parents. Speaking ill of the dead. But it's the truth.
Mom and Dad would make these... comments. And Claire remembers each one with perfect clarity, because she's known something was different about her for a very long time. She knew those comments were aimed at her, even if her parents didn't.
They were wonderful parents in every other aspect. Up until they abandoned her, that is. Claire still can't help but feel like she's failing them, sometimes, being who she is.
"They might have changed their minds," Dean offers. "If they'd known. It's different when it's your own kid."
Claire eyes him, curious. "Was it different for your parents?"
Something crosses over Dean's expression, too quickly for Claire to catch it.
"No," he admits after a beat. He runs his hand over his face. "Maybe - Mom might have been fine with it. She didn't know."
Claire swallows. "But your dad did. And it wasn't different."
She feels cruel, pushing the topic. But there's some perverse part of her that needs the confirmation. Dean reminds her of herself, in a lot of ways. He'd say it was the other way around. If he experienced the rejection that Claire feared as a kid, the one that still scares her even if it's purely theoretical now, then that proves something.
"It wasn't," Dean admits. "But Jimmy Novak was no John Winchester."
Claire's chest aches. There's some hollow triumph at the abstract confirmation of her worst fears. Mostly, she just feels like shit.
"For what it's worth," Dean adds, "I think you're perfect. No notes."
Embarrassingly, Claire's lower lip wobbles. She clears her throat, looking off to the side as she tries to regain her composure.
"You think you're my dad or something?" she asks, voice rough.
Dean shrugs, looking embarrassed himself. "I kind of think of you as my kid, yeah. If that's okay."
Claire crosses her arms, feeling warm and aching and off-kilter. "I - yeah. Yeah, that's fine."
#dean and claire#spn#supernatural#spn fanfic#perlukafarinn writes#lesbian claire novak#bi dean winchester#i had a bunch of ficlet ideas based on my last post about dean running a gay bar post-canon#this was the most compelling to me but i'm not sure i got it across right#but i had to get it out there anyway
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fam i'm having shrimp emotions about dean winchester in the year of our lord 2024. it doesn't get better
#yes i did watch the dean landslide amv three times in a row. no i dont want to talk about it#bUT ALSO-#DEAN DESERVED BETTER#we all deserved bETTER !!!#baby had so much trauma and didnt get to kiss the gay angel what even was the point#finally reading the goldenrod revisions (ao3) is healing and destroying me all at the same time#will i ever know peace#i hope dean winchester is watching 911 in heaven and seeing bi buck has altered his brain chemisty <3#spn#dean winchester#destiel#supernatural#dean winchester my beloved#the goldenrod revisions
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I think we as Sam fans should be more annoying and loud about the fact that his crossroad demons were men twice.
(This is me being pissed off about how people will say dean is of course bi due to some dumb shit like the siren, which was his brother, and “bi lighting” or something, and then turn around and say Sam is the straightest character. Like what.)
#Queer Sam Winchester#Sam#sam winchester#supernatural#spn#i like bi dean as a headcanon or in fic so no hate to anyone who likes it as a fanon thing I do too#I just get annoyed when people insist that dean is bi in clearly canon and that was intended#When people like Jensen repeatedly state that wasn’t their intent#Also I get frustrated when people act like their bi dean truthing is just so important because representation! But then get so outright#Dimissive over any possibility/headcanon that Sam might not be straight#Like why do they want Sam to be straight so bad#It’s just the hollier than thou attitude that pisses me off#Sam is literally a walking metaphor for being gay but okay that’s not as analysis worthy as bi lighting I guess#Sorry I’m seeing dumb takes#Fandom wank
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while i will always love and appreciate the bisexual dean winchester agenda, i truly believe that if he was raised differently—or maybe if he grew up today instead—that boy would have been gay. like his love for women in a romantic/sexual context was always such a caricature and was continuously used as a symbol of masculinity that played against the roles assigned to him by his father growing up for the sake of suppressing any queerness he might exhibit. now whether that suppression was purposely written into his character or was a reaction to the character they had created, i’m not sure, but it’s there regardless.
i don’t mean to dismiss the love he felt for cassie or lisa, but particularly with lisa, i’m not sure he was ever in love with her, despite the fact that he did care for both her and ben. i get so frustrated watching the end of s5 because him going to her house and his perfect “apple pie life” being with her in suburbia genuinely came out of nowhere and i’ve never understood a) why it had to happen, and b) why it had to be lisa. but thinking about it in this sense, she was the closest thing he had in his life to everything he was raised to believe he should want by one john winchester, who lost his perfect wife, perfect family, perfect apple pie life and sent all of them down this path in the first place. so of course to dean, his happy ending would be with someone like lisa. but that’s the important part. someone like lisa, not lisa herself. he may have had love for her and he may have been able to picture a life with her, but it wasn’t necessarily because she was everything he wanted; she was a symbol of the things that tore his family apart and so to be with her felt like he was finally able to put some of it back together. and that makes me so sad for him because all of that is a result of the sense of responsibility ingrained in him growing up by john, not something he wanted for himself.
but back to his general attitude towards women, there was an excellent post that said he only acts like the typical womanizer he has a reputation for being around women deemed “stereotypical” by the misogynistic perspective. otherwise, he tends to take on a fairly brotherly role; he doesn’t tend to pursue any women he can “take seriously,” and is more intimidated or impressed by them than anything else. with the exception of cassie (which was pre-series and we never got full context for in the first place), he only ever pursued women with whom he would have a definitive ending—by that i mean women who he knows he’ll never see again or who would have a clearly defined role during the time they’re together that wouldn’t threaten the status quo. and yes these could also be the traits of a commitment-phobe or someone chronically on the move, but for one, sam doesn’t tend to do the same thing (see ruby, amelia, and eileen), and for two, given the things i mentioned already, it makes me consider it more of a result of him not actually being interested in women romantically.
his reaction to women when not purposely used as the butt of a joke or to perpetuate the “womanizer dean winchester” agenda is often so innately fraternal, caring in a way that doesn’t have any expectations behind it. and when there is a romantic context, so much of the relationship can be attributed to the way john raised him and the beliefs he has as a direct result; it’s never simply been built on the foundation of love.
every time he is dismissed as this macho het guy, it also dismisses so much of what makes him a wonderful character, and yes a lot of that is his queerness. so in a world where he didn’t grow up with roles and responsibilities that shaped him into someone he knew his dad hated and forced him to create this character for himself in order to survive? i think he would have been gay and he would have been okay with that.
#his reaction to men however? look no further than that gifset ‘dean + looking at men’#and then there’s cas and their multiple divorce arcs and widower arcs#he is not normal about that angel#gay dean my beloved#he was experiencing comphet!! he’s just like me fr#he falls under the category of#men who get labeled as bi bc of their ‘canon’ relationships but free of the narrative would be gay#i’m talking troy barnes. atyd sirius black. bucky barnes. sherlock holmes. etcetc#i am also a queer!sam truther i was just using his relationships to make a point#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#gay dean winchester#destiel#john winchester can choke challenge#em saying things
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maybe my most controversial headcanon is that I see dean as a straight man and sam is his only exception
#when in fics he's written as an openly bisexual dude who has slept with men before I'm like...#it's not like that would make me dislike the fic or anything. I see the vision I get it. but it doesn't ring true#to the dean that lives inside my head yk?#the only bi!dean I genuinely enjoy is the repressed one who has never even been with a dude and genuinely thinks he's straight#why the fuck did I end up writing so much more in the tags than in the original post lmao
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#They tried and failed#the original Dean winchester#I blame Micheals acting choices#He chose to have chemistry with everyone#The man exudes bisexual energy#I dont think he could help it#the entire cast was hot I get it#I understand him on a spiritual level#It would have been better if it was gayer but hey beggers can't be choosers and it was the early 2000s#clex#Smallville#micheal Rosenbaum#lex luthor#lex luthor smallville#bi lex luthor truther
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*screams internally*
#help#it’s tomorrow#oof that last one got me though#it fit too perfectly#how did we get back to this day already#it’s been THREE YEARS#may the odds be ever in your favor#canon destiel#destiel#dean winchester#deancas#castiel#jensen ackles#misha collins#cas is gay#dean is bi#cockles#jenmish#supernatural#nov 5th#nov 5 2020
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Ya I fucking wonder…
#Dean getting away with flirting with Cas for years bc Cas literally doesn’t understand flirting#dean was so rock hard for his angel growing a beard#gay sex to me#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#destiel#castiel#misha collins#deancas#jensen ackles#spn crack#purgatory#purgaytory#dean is bi#queer#bisexual dean winchester#bi dean
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#dean winchester#bi dean#thought this poll might be a good way to start pride month#happy pride 🌈#I truly wonder what y'all think here because I'm not sure myself#what are your headcanon?#dean already had some 5th base actions before so he would know#he never tried that so he wouldn't know#or he tried but he doesn't know it's called 5th base#or he tried but acts like he doesn't know#so many possibilities here#please don't be shy about sharing your thoughts#there's no wrong answers here#no hate either please#it's not about cas#but still can be#like did they get to 5th base already or no#destiel#deancas#castiel#I love dean winchester so much#my random thoughts about destiel#spn 13x12#Various & Sundry Villains
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Misha: gets praised(again) or acknowledged for continuing to be the most vocal destiel and gay Cas supporter of the Cast.
Hellers on Tumblr: "how can I make this about Jensen?"
#misha collins#supernatural#castiel#destiel#it never fails#seeing posts popping up about Jackles acting choices as if certain fans on here hate to see misha get any recognition#look. idc about jacting joices. misha was mocked HEAVILY by this fandom antis and hellers alike#for his support of destiel soon as the show ended#in 2020-2022 when the cast was silent misha was out there making destiel trend regularly#folls saying he needs to move on or he's que#or he's queerbaiting#but whenever people celebrate the fact misha has always been supportive yall want to add minimize misha and make posts about Jackles#trying to make it seem like he's just as supportive when all he's done is talk around it#he said a year ago dean would have said 'i love you too' but people leave out the part about brotherhood#like Jackles ain't being silenced. he's trying to be nice about telling yall he don't sees that for dean#but mans knows he'll piss people off so he walks the neutral line and his stans act like he's heller king#while say *don't ask jensen questions about destiel or bi dean at panels*#miss me with that bullshit#Jackles THIS YEAR acknowledged that Cas *i love you* is romantic. okay but we been knew & misha been saying that#maybe in another 4 years he'll say destiel
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this bisexual man is walking free in your small town!
#ok the caption is supposed to be like a funny radio psa thing#but english is not my native language and i overthought it#point is#26 year old dean is bi and he's here and queer#hunting monsters and getting bitches (gender neutral)#my art#dean winchester#spn#supernatural#dean is bi#bi dean winchester#dean winchester fanart#spn fanart#spn art#supernatural fanart
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