#danny elfman allegations

[spookyxpickle]

To My Fellow Goths and Weirdos

It’s always a rough go of it when you learn that fellow weirdos that you love, whose creations helped you feel like you have a place you belong to in this world

First off, it feels like both betrayal and death. While those people didn’t owe you goodness, you don’t even know them, there were still feelings of gratitude and deep admiration.

“Oh, thank the stars they aren’t one of THOSE ones. They may make mistakes, may need to learn some stuff, just like the rest of us. But they aren’t monsters who abuse their power.”

But then evidence comes to light that they are like that. They did abuse their power. They hurt people and then lied about it.

Their art, that you loved, now becomes tainted.

I know I mourn those works of art and the loss of belief of who I thought that person was.

People love to say “You can separate the art from the artist”. I guess it’s great if you can do that without feeling the ick but, I can’t.

I think of what they have done. I think about the people they hurt. I feel a heavy guilt in my heart from trying to ignore the ick.

The least I could do to help those they hurt is not support their abusers.

Secondly, it hurts to see fellow weirdos be the bad kind of weird. It gives all the other weirdos a bad look.

I see nothing wrong with being a weirdo little freak. I’m one myself. BUT I’m not out to hurt anyone, exert power over them, or harass them. And there’s plenty of other weird little freaks who are good people.

At least that last part gives me some comfort.

And, there’s plenty of amazing artists out there I can find. I can enjoy their art instead.

So yeah, our childhood memories end up having a darkness that wasn’t there before. Nostalgia is very powerful but you don’t have to let it have power over you.

One a personal little note, my childhood memories, what I can remember, are full of shadows anyways. Yes, it still hurts, this new info but, my inner child is fine with finding other things.

Pss: I know there's an Oingo Boingo song called little girls. I always thought it was the band criticizing old, powerful, rich dudes who married really really young woman who haven't quite grown into being adults.

[evildilf2]

Anyone else think it’s wild that Danny Elfman had extremely credible allegations published about him in Rolling Stone magazine but because he responded with “not true + not going to comment further” people don’t really talk/think/know about it.

[poolofblissfulmisery]

why do all of you want to fuck Danny elfman I’m scared

[omgthatdress]

Just wanted to say in a moment of fan betrayal solidarity that a couple weeks ago it went public that Danny Elfman wasn't paying a settlement he had agreed upon for an (alleged, but with what both parties say very likely it happened) sexual misconduct case against him, and as a practically lifelong fan of Elfman the feelings of shock and betrayal and just being plain tired of people you admire turning out to be shit is awful and soul-crushing, and I truly am sorry that this has to be doubled with the fact she was a major source of representation in your life. Hopefully she will change how she acts and actually practice what she preaches. Shit's rough and I'm sorry it's happening with someone you look up to.

meh, I've dealt with it before *coughcough*JK ROWLING

It's just goddamn how many other fat celebs do you see it out there regularly killing it on the red carpet?

Fuck that makes me wonder if I should rescind her Met Gala winner 2022 title and give it to Billie Eilish.

I'm also bummed to hear that Danny Elfman sucks! Fuck man, no one is good these days!

[bingle-bongle-scrinkle-skroo]

Hey so I don't want to be the one to break this new on here, but it isnt doing much good on my conciousness rn and I really need to let this out.

TW: Sexual Harassment

This article was just published by rolling stone, and I wanted to gently put my thoughts on the matter down.

I am very very shocked and quite upset by this story. This is awful, and it has immeasurably soured my day.

Firstly, I am not going to, nor can I in any capacity, speak to the validity of any of this story. In truth, no one can until a court decision has been reached.

That said, I would like to voice my thoughts on this (very delicate) situation.

1. This situation, and the story told by this article, has a lot of moving parts and unknown variables.

2. I don't think this case can be treated the same way that many similar ones are, if we are to consider the individuals involved. This seems very out of character for Elfman, and while that's no excuse, everything I know of his history and previous behavior makes me question the extent of the allegations. Additionally, his apparent cooperation with the investigation/article is something to further question.

3. This article, while very factual and information-driven, is substantiated mostly by personal sources on the side of Abadi. Not to judge for or against, just something I noted.

4. I am shocked and it feels like my world is crashing down. The closest thing I've ever had to an idol is now embroiled in this and may in fact be guilty. This is tough. Danny Elfman marks, for me, my first moments of self acceptance and celebration of my neurodivergency as well as a plethora of other things. I feel an incredibly close connection to him and to Oingo Boingo, much more than any other band.

5. Again, I can't say if any of this is true or not based on the contents of this article. I am not going on a witch hunt, nor will I aggressively defend a celebrity. I am not choosing a side definitively, and I encourage others to reserve judgement as well.

My immediate bias is on the side of Danny, and amittedly, a part of me can rationalize the allegations if I try. HOWEVER, I SHOULDN'T DO THIS.

I, and we as a fandom, have to remember that this is a real situation, with a real victim. This fandom romanticises and sexualizes this man very much, and I do worry that with that bias it will be difficult to see both sides of the situation.

I am not looking to discuss or deliberate the merits of either side's stories. None of us were in that room, and without moderation I do not want to see this space turn into a 4chan forum.

I am so sorry if you found out this way. As a fan, this breaks my heart.

I will try to post official updates if I find them.

The article, again:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/danny-elfman-nomi-abadi-sexual-harassment-allegation-1234791842/

[ms-hells-bells]

ew. filthy old man. i knew he gave me weirdo vibes.

[cloevr]

it still drives me insane how i got so autistically into oingo boingo and danny elfman literally months before the allegations came out... and of course oingo boingo i can listen to detached from that because it was a whole band with other people and all but.. some stuff is sort of like... especially his newer album to me is unlistenable now, what pisses me off the most is he put up this stupid fucking punk feminist like front like "kick me" lyrics being about old self absorbed pervy celebs/billionaires who treat people wrong like... thats literally you you fake old bitch !!!! and also this whole 2020's midlife crisis mental snap complete change in look and teaming up with younger cool punk leftist edgy artists and shit like. now considering the nature of the alleged things he did in the past maybe im reaching but it feels... suspect. that he was worming into those circles working with legit really cool people and everyone talking about how hes so fucking cool and reinventing himself and all this reverence he would receive is like nauseating now. particularly what bothers me on top of all that is working with all these young women the same age as the two alleged victims.... it just feels creepy to me because the allegations werent out yet during all that time and i cant help but be paranoid. the women he manipulated both were younger and looked up to him and because of that they put up with a lot of weird shit he did and they felt they had to because he was... danny elfman... he was their mentor figure like.... anyways im just saying i really hope he hasnt done anything similar since the time of the most recent accusations, but most recent was literally 2015-2017 that was just a few years agoooo!!! it all feels so fake now just... reinventing out of nowhere to be this shirt off tatted ripped sort of damaged eyeliner edgy rockstar that in hindsight feels so ick... its crazy i really thought he was genuinely cool and all but now its like.... well... [puts bleach in my eyes]

[goopysloppyslobsop]

Oh god I’ve been crying all day about this since I saw the news this morning. To start I’m not surprised surprisingly, and tbh I saw this coming sooner or later as much as I didn’t want to believe it and how much I wish I wouldn’t be right about it. Especially so soon. Oingo boingo and Danny elfman as a whole has been a big part of who I am these past couple of years and having it ripped away so quickly a few hours ago, I dunno it feels numbing I had no words I excepted it so quickly, but just as quickly it fuckin broke me man. It feels dumb though crying about celebrity drama, but being so emotionally attached to something that has become such a big part of your life and something someone I turned to for escapism and someone I looked up to just ??Doesn’t feel real I’m not sure what to think, it’s nothing new sure but I dunno I’m fucked up rn. If you’re a fan I suggest read the article. Everyone should believe and be on the side of the victim in this case I wanna say at least until proven otherwise. I can only hope it’s won’t end up being true, but even then I don’t think I’ll be able to see him the same way I used to or find the same joy in his music anymore, looking at him itself feels icky. It breaks me to say or even think I won’t be supporting or indulging him or his work any longer after all he’s unknowingly helped me through and how much of an impact he’s left on me. Also people who’ve got tickets for his concert next month like I do.. what now?

[bongelf97]

This blog will now be inactive indefinitely and may be deleted, I'm not comfortable posting about Danny Elfman anymore at this time and I cannot support him.

A lot of people are saying that the accusations aren't proven, but he DID admit to doing something that I find extremely uncomfortable, which is showing Nomi Abadi the glass full of Cetaphil cream.

He says he 'never claimed it was semen' but obviously it was supposed to be. Tons of people have talked about how this face cream looks like semen. Showing a much younger colleague a fake glass of semen is really fucked up and uncomfortable to do, if an older and more powerful person I had to work with did that to me, I would be extremely uncomfortable. It's not ok even if it was "just stuff from his bathroom counter"

Even if these allegations are not 100% true, he literally admitted to something that is genuinely not ok, and honestly him admitting to that and trying to make it sound normal just gave me a bad feeling. That is not a normal thing to send to someone you're working with. It's sexual harassment.

[hogcranker1984]

I might as well repost this twitter thread i did of my thoughts on the whole matter with Danny Elfman. We had an Oingo Boingo / Elfman fixation all throughout 2021-2022, and we've listened to Elfman's scores for years now. I've been a part of this fandom. There are addendums noted like this, (#) full addendums are located at the bottom of this post under the cut. So. The whole Danny Elfman situation. I see people are entirely disowning their interest in Oingo Boingo when there's literally a bunch of other talented people (WHO ARE STILL ALIVE) that were apart of the band and made the band's sound. the frontman isn't the entirety of the band. (1)

Personally, I see nothing wrong with still liking Oingo Boingo. that's fine and alright with me y'know? the allegations are BAD, but I'll just say, I'm neutral at the moment because there's not much evidence for either side yet. (2) The allegations are upsetting but I find myself quite unsurprised. many things can slip through the cracks with celebrities. their status helps them to cover up malicious things they've done. like, even if the allegations are not true, they are VERY believeable. If the allegations wind up being true, this is a lesson for a lot of people. People need to be more wary of celebrities and how they present themselves to the public. because that is an act. we do not truly know how someone is as a person until allegations like these come up. (3)

(#1: Steve Bartek, Johnny Hernandez/Vatos, John Avila, etc.) (#2: I thought it would be appropriate to note that the court case hasn't even been sorted out yet.) (#3: Luckily, we got out of OB and Danny's work and severed our personal attachment at a good time, otherwise we would be completely devastated, instead of just numb. Our view comes from a place of personal experience from making these same mistakes.)

If you would like the original article where these allegations have surfaced, here.

Also, the twitter thread I made where most of this is from.

[tumblintuck]

Y'all are aware that there are Allegations against Danny Elfman right? Maybe it'd be best to cool it with the Oingo Boingo posting

[georgemiser]

And for all the ex-"fans" of Danny Elfman who've thrown out every cd and movie containing his music, hopefully this'll make you doubt and, hopefully, maybe even think less of yourself. To those who stayed neutral or supportive; let this news sway you over to/keep you on Danny Elfman's side indefinitely. You did the right thing. To Jane doe....pray that you and your dirty little secret stay anonymous, not that you deserve that level of protection. Nomi Abadi: Take a good, hard look. You're the next one Rolling Stones will be writing this shit about.

[magical-mooni]

Imma say this one more time PLEASE research about Danny Elfman before commenting on my old art….. and if you know about the allegations and STILL insist on commenting weird shit I’m blocking. I’m sorry you believe a rich Hollywood white guy is in the right instead of believing in the statement of the two women who met him. I truly wish for the allegations to be fake in hopes no one was actually hurt, but that’s no excuse to be insensitive and treat it as something that never happened. Elfman sexualizers and weirdos get tf out my page.

[girlroach]

[oingybinkywangobongo]

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/danny-elfman-nomi-abadi-sexual-harassment-allegation-1234791842/

This honestly makes me so sad, I'll admit I had to read through this article twice y'know just for reasons. It's a shame it really is. And as much as I really hate to believe something like this because it just seems out of character for Danny and it doesn't sound like anything that he would do not to me anyway. But, as someone else stated in their post about this, no one was in the room when this happened there were no witnesses and I myself also am not siding with either person right now as this is the only article about it right now and nothing else has been said on the matter. For me, Danny/Oingo Boingo have been my safe space.. all the times when I've been down in the dark void of the abyss I listen to Oingo Boingo, I listen to Danny's film scores.. as a die-hard fan of such an amazing band and an amazing musician/composer. It honestly breaks my heart and it upsets me that I had to hear of this and read that article. I will say that whether this is true or not which I hope it's not I will still listen to Oingo Boingo regardless. I will never stop listening to their music, their music is helped me through some troubling times. And I don't want to give that up. But I will say in closing, until this is all cleared up and things are figured out I too, will not be posting anything Danny or Boingo related until further notice.

[newwave-confessions]

Until the allegations are proven true or false, I will not be posting any Danny Elfman or Oingo confessions.